11 OEMs, including Sony, Toshiba to pre-install OneCare.

To address the growing security and management needs of today's new PC user, Microsoft is working with 11 original equipment manufacturers, including Sony Corporation of America and Toshiba Asia Pacific to preinstall trial subscriptions of Windows Live OneCare on select new PCs across North America, Europe and Asia. Windows Live OneCare provides all-in-one security and anti-malware protection for consumers and small businesses along with tools that automate and simplify PC management and performance.

"Microsoft and Sony share the same goal of helping our customers get the most from their PC experience," said Xavier Lauwaert of VAIO product marketing at Sony Electronics. "Through this alliance, Windows Live OneCare will provide our customers with a simple solution to help them maintain and secure their new PC."

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I've been using OneCare since I got Vista and its been a gem. Runs so quietly you forget its even there (unlike Norton) which gets your PCs heart pumping so fast you have to shut the damd thing down because the fan and hard disk are making so much noise. But honestly, I love it. It is the most unobtrusive AV package I have ever had. Oh and best of all, Microsofts Trial for OneCare is like almost 90 days as compared the the industry standar of 30.

(franzon said @ #33)
It's a free trial = USELESS

As is 99% on the bundled software in new computers. Microsoft is trying to do the same thing that Norton or McAfee have been doing for a long time: Pre-install agreements with OEM's.

That bundling software is a bad practice (except for the companies behind bundled applications), i agree all the way.

I always reformat all the laptops i buy to get rid of the bundled software. However, many people don't and it's better to have a Microsoft application that would be easy to uninstall in case you don't want it than Norton Antivirus (or Internet Security) or McAfee, which are a PITA to remove in their entirety (as of today, this is the case).

(ajua said @ #33.1)

As is 99% on the bundled software in new computers. Microsoft is trying to do the same thing that Norton or McAfee have been doing for a long time: Pre-install agreements with OEM's.

Aren't these pre-install agreements the basis of Microsoft's monopoly in the first place... with Windows?

I normally prefer ZoneAlarm Free Firewall and AVG Free. Does the job pretty well I must say. For everything else I use Virtual Machines (VMWare or VPC) and destroy the machine after something scary has been done to it.

While AVG is a nice little no-fuss application it's far from perfect.

And zone alarm? for a good few years now, worst peice of software available. There's absolutly no reason to use it anymore, either, as all those claims that windows firewall is "weak" and "insecure" continue to sound like echos of crybabies as it continues on, invisible in the background working without flaw.

(Rolith said @ #32.1)
While AVG is a nice little no-fuss application it's far from perfect.

And zone alarm? for a good few years now, worst peice of software available. There's absolutly no reason to use it anymore, either, as all those claims that windows firewall is "weak" and "insecure" continue to sound like echos of crybabies as it continues on, invisible in the background working without flaw.


In my openion Windows firewall is not bad, just doesn't give me enough control over things I would like. ZoneAlarm has been a bloody good firewall since years.

I gave up on avast and avg, got OneCare instead.
It' a better overall system.

Until I get pwnt from some day 0 virus that vista and onecare can't catch.

It's much more satisfying building your own computer.

And if you aren't stupid you generally shouldn't need a virsus scanner, they just slow your computer down.

"I presume there distributing the latest version, Windows Live OneCare 2.5 "

There is only one version, the current version. Everyone's software updates automatically, without user interaction. Unlike M* and S*, you don't have to go through the ritual of re-upping every fall.

i'd take anything over mcAfee or norton AV, BUT preinstalled "crap" is the most annoying thing ever !! would it be so hard to add another screen (after the one where you put your windows username, etc) so you'd be able to choose to install all the OEM crap.

Norton Internet Security 2009 Beta installed and was up and running in about 20 seconds without a reboot on Vista 64-bit and Server 2008 64-bit. It is using 0 CPU and 500K of RAM. When I run it in 'Silent Mode' I am getting the same Frame Rates in 3D Games as before it was installed.

You might want to re-evaluate your out-dated opinions of NIS !!!

Had OneCare for a year and was offered to renew it for only £15 as I beta tested v2.5. £15 for 3 PCs!

Why is everyone asking MS to give it away for free - do you realise that Symantec and McAfee would have a field day over that. OneCare is much better than McAfee and uses a lot less resources than Norton.

While I don't like the idea of anything bundled or pre-installed, I do appreciate the fact that major OEM vendors are taking security more seriously. On another note, I have no issues with OneCare whatsoever. It's simple, unintrusive and does the job. It also automates other tasks like defragmentation and cleanup, which makes it even more attractive. Kudos to MS.

MS OneCare $49.95 ANNUALLY for up to 3 computers. I have a MS OneCare account that is still active but I no longer use it. It was not very intuitive to use (I have been a pc user since C-64 days) and it's AV component always scored lowest at every AV testing site I ever found. Also it's updating was not reliable IMHO and was sure not a 'hands-free' experience. Since then I have switched to Avast free and it runs great on all our 4 Vista boxes. The cumbersomness of the updating made me feel 'less secure' rather than 'more secure'

BUT..it sure looks darn purdy!!!!

As for microsoft installing free anti-virus bundled with it's system...

Didn't antivirus software companies sue microsoft because it'd made Vista's kernal too secure, not allowing anti-virus companies to compete? Imagine if Microsoft threw in free software to do what other companies exist doing.

OneCare's a nice piece of software, and does it's job unobtrusively and competently. It's a good stride better then the current iterations of most consumer-grade anti-virus.

I don't see why this is even remotely a negative thing, it kinda baffels me that people expect systems to just be anti-virus free. Virii, bloatware, and adware will exist on any system, even if end-users have to willingly install them, it speaks no more negatively than cavities speak of Crest

Dugg!

And to the folks who hate Windows OneCare:

1. Shut up. Everything's gonna be fine.
2. Uninstall Windows OneCare.
3. Install the following software:

- PC Tools ThreatFire Free
- Avira AntiVir Free
- Spybot SD Free

(thenonhacker said @ #11.3)
Dugg!

And to the folks who hate Windows OneCare:

1. Shut up. Everything's gonna be fine.
2. Uninstall Windows OneCare.
3. Install the following software:

- PC Tools ThreatFire Free
- Avira AntiVir Free
- Spybot SD Free

4 - and watch you computer boged up and start slowing down before crushing and giving a nice blue screen of [strike]life[/strike]death

Lesser of the evils, I guess.

@11.4: Personally I'd just throw on an AV, and nothing else. But on Vista 64-bit, you can even choose not to. In any case you still have Windows Defender as a last resort in case anything slips through.

(ChrisJ1968 said @ #9)
yeah, some guy made an app that rids OEM PC's from this stuff PC cecrapifier to remove all that HP, DEL and other OEM garbage

With dell though you have the option to remove the crap when you build it. Its kinda hidden but its there.

lol just wait for symantec and other to cry a river at EC about who monpolist and unfair is that XD

(MioTheGreat said @ #7)
OEMs need to bundle less crap, not more. A consumer PC from HP/Dell/etc. is unusable out of the box.

If you think HP/Dell are bad, try Acer, any system guy would scream hair out of their head (if there are any left, ofcourse).

Well, in my experience, OneCare is definitely better than McAfee or Norton I've encountered on new OEM PC's...


Not that it matters much anyways - I always reformat a new computer when I get one.

Microsoft should provide a free version of onecare. Maybe it doesn't need all the fancy stuff, just something basic that people who are new with computers will have as some sort of defence.

I don't understand why these OEM's wouldn't just include a free version. There's AVG or something that's free...

(Deathray said @ #1)
Microsoft should provide a free version of onecare. Maybe it doesn't need all the fancy stuff, just something basic that people who are new with computers will have as some sort of defence.

I don't understand why these OEM's wouldn't just include a free version. There's AVG or something that's free...

If MS did that, they will become food for anti-trust sharks (yeah they probably would be able to come out of it with a few scratches as well)

(Deathray said @ #3)
Microsoft should provide a free version of onecare. Maybe it doesn't need all the fancy stuff, just something basic that people who are new with computers will have as some sort of defence.

Something like.... Windows Defender?

I just want to ask...is this one care stuff REALLY worth it? I hear all about it. isn't this a simple SAAS? software as a service? just to generate $$$

(ChrisJ1968 said @ #1)
I just want to ask...is this one care stuff REALLY worth it? I hear all about it. isn't this a simple SAAS? software as a service? just to generate $$$

You mean like all the other paid A/V solutions?

(tntomek said @ #1.1)

You mean like all the other paid A/V solutions?

Yup. But now the money goes to Microsoft. You buy Windows. Then you pay Microsoft to provide protection for it.

(markjensen said @ #3)
Yup. But now the money goes to Microsoft. You buy Windows. Then you pay Microsoft to provide protection for it.

you make it sound like its a bad thing

(markjensen said @ #1.2)
Yup. But now the money goes to Microsoft. You buy Windows. Then you pay Microsoft to provide protection for it.

Yeah, isn't that great, sort of like buying a car and having to pay Ford or Chevy a yearly fee to keep driving it....

(computergeek83 said @ #1.4)
Yeah, isn't that great, sort of like buying a car and having to pay Ford or Chevy a yearly fee to keep driving it....

Isn't it more like buying a car and then paying for insurance?

Unlike a car, you actually *can* run Windows without paying for AntiVirus at all (since the government doesn't require AV like they do auto insurance...yet). Personally, I don't run any AV software and I've never had any issues...

(computergeek83 said @ #1.4)

Yeah, isn't that great, sort of like buying a car and having to pay Ford or Chevy a yearly fee to keep driving it....

Or an actual relevant comparison would be that you tak it to yearly checups at a factory service shop...

and you don't have to, you can take it to an unlicensed service shop, or you can not do it at all.

Stop his immature "they shouldn't sell protection because they can't make a secure OS" crap. noone can make a completely secure OS. no Apple, not Linus not BSD noone, unless the OS never sees a network, and even then it'd be vulnerable with direct phsyical contact so stop it. The difference is that unlike say Apple, MS admits that their OS can be hacked, or can get viruses or Trojans or their users tricked by phising. And they offer a solution for those users if they want.

But you an also get the sae maybe better, protection from a third party such as Eset or Kaspersky if you wish. As for MS including One care for free in the OS... riiight. you think they'd be allowed to do that ? when a B software company like real could successfully sue MS and blame them for not being able to sell their ****ty software ? AV companies is a much bigger industry with a lot more money, and they won't be happy if MS makes them obsolete, Heck some of them have allready tried suing because MS is selling their own AV suite...

(markjensen said @ #1.2)
Yup. But now the money goes to Microsoft. You buy Windows. Then you pay Microsoft to provide protection for it.

if you would actually spend the time researching instead of complaining, you would know why. Microsoft can't bundle anything with their operating system for free. If they would, same day they would get sued for being un-competive.

(HawkMan said @ #1.6)
Stop his immature "they shouldn't sell protection because they can't make a secure OS" crap. noone can make a completely secure OS. no Apple, not Linus not BSD noone, unless the OS never sees a network, and even then it'd be vulnerable with direct phsyical contact so stop it. The difference is that unlike say Apple, MS admits that their OS can be hacked, or can get viruses or Trojans or their users tricked by phising. And they offer a solution for those users if they want.

COMBO PWNED!!!

The only security that Apple offers is obscurity.

(nekrosoft13 said @ #1.7)
if you would actually spend the time researching instead of complaining, you would know why. Microsoft can't bundle anything with their operating system for free. If they would, same day they would get sued for being un-competive.
Microsoft already bundles plenty in their OS for free? What is this "they can't" coming from?

And this OneCare trial install is certainly free. Until trial is over, then they count on revenue from people subscribing. The same thing that McAfee and Norton have been doing.

I never said they could not or should not. Not sure why you quoted my post on this...

(markjensen said @ #1.9)
Microsoft already bundles plenty in their OS for free? What is this "they can't" coming from?

And this OneCare trial install is certainly free. Until trial is over, then they count on revenue from people subscribing. The same thing that McAfee and Norton have been doing.

I never said they could not or should not. Not sure why you quoted my post on this...

I'd rather use OneCare over McAfee and Norton any day. But then again I just run AVG Free for A/V and Defender for A/S, also free.

You don't have to use this, it's just there, if you like it fine if not uninstall it.

That aside this is a big win for MS, good for them.

(ChrisJ1968 said @ #1)
I just want to ask...is this one care stuff REALLY worth it? I hear all about it. isn't this a simple SAAS? software as a service? just to generate $$$

I use it. It seems to work fine, no performance issues or anything. I haven't had any problems with my computer, so I guess either it's protecting or I'm not getting attacked.

(markjensen said @ #1.9)
Microsoft already bundles plenty in their OS for free? What is this "they can't" coming from?

And this OneCare trial install is certainly free. Until trial is over, then they count on revenue from people subscribing. The same thing that McAfee and Norton have been doing.

I never said they could not or should not. Not sure why you quoted my post on this...

Microsoft did plan to bundle onecare for free with windows, not a trial the full version...but symantec and mcafee sued them to hell in the EU for that

Microsoft were sued in the EU for bundling the Windows Media Player with Windows and, after years in court, were forced to create Windows packages without Windows Media Player built-in.
In the end, you can now buy Windows XP with and without the Windows Media Player in the EU, but I doubt anyone buys the latter.
So, if they bundle the OneCare into Windows, they'll be sued in the EU and the same crap starts all over again.
They might put the trial on, just like Dell and other PC vendors have their PC's filled with trial software of all kinds.

(Odom said @ #1.13)
Microsoft were sued in the EU for bundling the Windows Media Player with Windows and, after years in court, were forced to create Windows packages without Windows Media Player built-in.
In the end, you can now buy Windows XP with and without the Windows Media Player in the EU, but I doubt anyone buys the latter.
So, if they bundle the OneCare into Windows, they'll be sued in the EU and the same crap starts all over again.
They might put the trial on, just like Dell and other PC vendors have their PC's filled with trial software of all kinds.
But, in the end, they are allowed to keep bundling it, right? As long as they also supply a version (even if they make it sound hideously missing a key feature or give it a crappy name) without it in the EU to comply with their laws.

Sweet deal! If they supply an alternate version ahead of time, they would even avoid the legal issues. So it's not like an "OMG! We're gonna get sued!" issue at all.