5 Million Pirated Discs in Asia-Pacific Sting

Operation Trident consisted of 1,874 raids which resulted in the seizing of nearly 5 million pirated discs and the arrest of 870 people during a two-month anti-piracy operation. The large-scale operation targeted pirate production facilities, pirated optical discs from street vendors, retail shops and markets; and the exporters of pirated DVDs and video CDs. The Asia-Pacific countries involved in the raids included Australia, China, Hong Kong, India, Indonesia, Japan, Malaysia, New Zealand, the Philippines, Singapore, South Korea, Taiwan and Thailand. While Malaysia conducted the most raids - 606, with 329 people arrested - it was China where officials seized the most discs: 60% of the 4.8 million total.

The Motion Picture Association, which coordinated the operation in December and January, said the goal was to protect sales of movie theater tickets and home video products "by reducing the availability of pirated optical discs during the important Christmas and New Year holiday season."

News source: Physorg

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It is about time. All this fuss to stop piracy, and yet 80-90% of all piracy is in areas, china especially, where the RIAA can't reach. Nuke china, and most of the piracy problem would be solved XD.

Here in Lebanon, the same thing has happened.

The government stopped almost all the shops and now after 2 months everything is back to normal and pirated CDs are everywhere and easy to get.

reporting from malaysia, i'd say the authority have shutdown most of the stores selling pirated movies for the time being. but street vendors are everywhere and impossible to shutdown. and i bet most of stores will reopen in a month or two. piracy can never be stopped.

if they really want a raid just goto pacific mall in markham ontario, there is like 6 shops of movies in there and they have been raided before

But they still exist. Raid one down and two will open, I remember back then when there's only one of those. Before it wasnt movies but console games, they have these binders with printed copy of the game cover, just choose one and the guy will get it for you. Makes you wonder... if the shop owners have "ties" with the cops, they seem to be ok right after and some of them know when there's a bust coming (they hide their wares).

Sounds like one of those drug bust where they claim that they've taken so man y 10's of millions of dollars off the street, but they don't tell you that that is just a drop in the bucket. It makes people believe that they're actually doing something....

lyleback2, China has plenty of movie theatres, they even have electricity and indoor plumbing as well. India has a bigger movie industry than Hollywood. They love American movies over there just as much as people in the West. Piracy is a really big problem over there. It counts for the true costs to movie makers whereas just downloading alone for personal use has little to zero affect on sales.

Foub said,
lyleback2, China has plenty of movie theatres, they even have electricity and indoor plumbing as well. India has a bigger movie industry than Hollywood. They love American movies over there just as much as people in the West. Piracy is a really big problem over there. It counts for the true costs to movie makers whereas just downloading alone for personal use has little to zero affect on sales.

i mean china doesn't show american movies over there, just like china doesn't show asian movies over here in theaters.

If china is pirating asian movies, why is RIAA (american based) and MPAA (American based) stepping in?

lylesback2 said,

i mean china doesn't show american movies over there, just like china doesn't show asian movies over here in theaters.

If china is pirating asian movies, why is RIAA (american based) and MPAA (American based) stepping in?


Becasue they represent massive multinational interests, that's why.

lylesback2 said,
i mean china doesn't show american movies over there, just like china doesn't show asian movies over here in theaters.

If china is pirating asian movies, why is RIAA (american based) and MPAA (American based) stepping in?

News flash: China's cinemas show PLENTY of American films and they pirate even more. There's markets in china that you go to which are just filled to bursting with rediculously cheap pirate DVD's for everthing you can imagine. Software, games, files, TV shows. Hell, you can get an entire box set containing all released seasons there for less than what you'd pay for one season here. Oh and 99% of them are Western.
And FYI, if you look around hard enough you can find all sorts of Chinese and Korean films in American and European cinemas. Some of them even get full national releases (Crouching Tiger? House of flying daggers?).

lylesback2 said,
i mean china doesn't show american movies over there, just like china doesn't show asian movies over here in theaters.

Many of the CAM versions of movies available come from Asian countries were someone has taken a camera into the theatre and pointed it at the screen. Thats why they have sub-titles on them as well. BTW, I think that some Chinese movies won awards at the Oscars not to long ago. Its a world-wide industry. They even show American movies in the Middle-East.

If china is pirating asian movies, why is RIAA (american based) and MPAA (American based) stepping in?

Because they're pirating American movies... They're selling counterfeit copies in their marketplaces. This is also where you get many of the other counterfeit products sold as well....

Foub said,
Many of the CAM versions of movies available come from Asian countries were someone has taken a camera into the theatre and pointed it at the screen. Thats why they have sub-titles on them as well. BTW, I think that some Chinese movies won awards at the Oscars not to long ago. Its a world-wide industry. They even show American movies in the Middle-East.

You'd be surprised. I believe most quality TS/TC's come from Canada actually, specifically the Quebec region

Croquant said,

Becasue they represent massive multinational interests, that's why.

What I don't get is why the Chinese authorities want to play along?

What does China get out of any respect for American IP? It's not like the US can say "We'll trade-restriction them into submission" without collapsing their own economy. If you're Hsing Q. Public, piracy only makes your life better-- more content for less money, often localised for your convinience, and for the government, bread and pirated circuses for the masses.

They do have American movies in the theaters there. The latest releases are the new Bond movie and The Guardian (at least those were the ones when I was in Beijing a couple of weeks ago). Just not a lot of people go and see them there because for most Chinese it's just too expensive and they just prefer to watch movies in the comfort of their own home. My GF is 28 and she's never been to see a movie in the theater. And she's fairly well off for a Chinese.

This "raid" will have no effect at all. As long as there is the demand, these pirated movies will continue to sell. A big part of the problem is that the movie studios don't price the movies competitively. To the average Chinese person, who is relatively very poor compared to us in the west, $20 for a DVD movie just isn't an option, especially when they can get the same movie for $1 pirated. If the studios priced the movies at say $6-7, they might get more legit sales. It still won't make much of a dent in the pirated movie sales, because let's face it, the Chinese don't care and just want it as cheap as possible, but at least there would be a lot more legit sales as well and the studios can make a lot more money in that market.

Another thing they need to do is release the movies on DVD at almost the same time they are released in the theater. That's what all domestic movie studio's do, and that's how they make most of their money because again, Chinese aren't all that interested in seeing movies in the theater.

The movie studios just need to accept that they will never stop or even make much of a dent in piracy there, but if they change their strategy and ridiculous pricing, they can at least make a lot more money than they are now.

RAINMAN said,
You'd be surprised. I believe most quality TS/TC's come from Canada actually, specifically the Quebec region ;)

Downloading for personal use is not illegal in Canada.

of course MPAA didn't arrest them. they just persuade proper authority of the country to enforce existing laws. most country have copyright law.

the goal was to protect sales of movie theater tickets and home video products

so.. you busted all these countries that have nothing to do with American movies? as far as i know, china and those other countries don't have movie theaters to actually watch these American movies in.

You forget that a lot of these pirated movies eventually end up in the US and almost always before the official DVD launch.

These are the people the RIAA and MPAA should be going after - the people who make a profit out of selling goods they do not have the rights to - NOT casual downloaders.

M2Ys4U said,
These are the people the RIAA and MPAA should be going after - the people who make a profit out of selling goods they do not have the rights to - NOT casual downloaders.

but you're forgetting that casual downloaders are easier to catch and buckle under much easier...