Acer: Windows 8 "still not successful"; hypes "amazing" Chromebook sales

Without a doubt, the PC executive that has been the most critical of Microsoft during the launch of Windows 8 has been Acer president JT Wong. In the past, Wong has slammed Microsoft's decision to launch the Surface tablet. However, a few weeks ago Wong said that Acer still had a "wait and see" attitude for the success of Windows 8 itself.

Today, in a new interview, Wong appears to have abandoned the "wait and see" mode. Bloomberg reports that Acer had a 28 percent drop in its PC shipments for the fourth quarter of 2012 compared to a year ago. Wong added, "Windows 8 itself is still not successful ... The whole market didn’t come back to growth after the Windows 8 launch, that’s a simple way to judge if it is successful or not."

However, Wong also noted that shipments of its Chromebook notebooks in the US have been successful. Wong said that the notebooks, based on Google's Chrome OS, have now taken up between five and 10 percent of all of Acer's notebook shipments in the US. Acer launched a $199 Chromebook in November.

Wong called the response to the Chromebooks in the US "amazing". He added, "You saw that all the marketing and promotions were not as broad as Windows 8, so to reach this success is encouraging." Acer is still evaluating whether or not to launch a Windows RT-based tablet and won't launch one before the back-to-school shopping season at the earliest, according to Wong.

Source: Bloomberg | Image via Acer

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this is the internet. Every information and statistic must therefore be correct.
boy, am I tired of everybody creating their own reality and trying to push it onto everybody. what was there first the egg or the chicken (if you don't make the products, nobody will buy them - doh).
as somebody else said above, fuzzy math - that is all this is.

Edited by Der_Ausgewanderte, Jan 29 2013, 2:50am :

Most of the PC OEMs did NOT have enough touchscreen notebooks or desktops, and left consumers waiting for their 'Windows 8' touchscreen notebooks to be more available.

This created a loss in sales as people are still waiting on comprehensive touch screen choices in the notebook and desktop offerings.

Desktop touchscreens are still TOO expensive.

PC Makers could have been selling more touch enabled PCs starting with Windows 7, but instead they dismissed the ideas as non-needed. They as iPad and other products started to move into PC sales, they still didn't listen to Microsoft.

This story and general ignorance in the PC OEM market is EXACTLY why Microsoft Suface exists.

There are a lot of people trying to get reservations for Microsoft Surface Pro, and sadly if Acer or other manufactures would have created the products they should have, there would be little interest in a Microsoft branded device.

Acer can blame Microsoft for poor sales in Q4, but it comes back to their hardware and offerings, and why would there be a demand dip in a consistent product line, expect that people were wanting something different regarding hardware.

Acer has just now got their touchscreen notebooks back into the supply chain, that were hard to find or buy for the past couple of months. I wonder why Acer doesn't correlate the lack of availability with the loss of sales?

I own a Acer laptop and I've had driver issues from Day 1. It has been returned to them twice but they never fixed it. Eventually I had to use drivers for another version of Windows to make it work.

The PC market is shrinking and this hurts those that suck more then those that deliver quality. Acer sucks so their time in the market is over. So they make the switch to a lower market and it makes sense for them to bad mouth their old partner.

Fact is, the only reason they had a drop in sales is because of the fad of tablets. People haven't given up on PC's or Laptops, its just that they haven't had a need to upgrade. Although I did upgrade the pieces of my desktop last year... I would never buy a full computer from a company.

He is also an idiot if he thinks Chromebook is better. What a joke. The company seriously needs to think of replacing him if he actually thinks that.

OK!!! I've looked at some numbers and Acer is the 3rd largest pc oem. Their sales are down 28%. Supposedly the whole industry is down 6%. Maybe it is just Acer that took such a huge hit. When I looked for a new PC over XMas I looked acer and saw crap so I got an Asus.

Personally I'm waiting for better laptop hardware that combines power and price for my range so for me it's on Acer and the other OEMs. I've upgraded my 5 yr old laptop and 2 yr old desktop to Windows 8 already and am happy with the OS, but the laptop is really showing signs of age. I've come close to buying a Sony that's got an i7 and dedicated video card with touchscreen, but resolution is only 1600x900. I'm waiting for at least 1080p touchscreen + i7 + dedicated video card + better hybrid drives. I think I'll be buying sometime this spring or summer.

If one is still primarily a traditional laptop manufacturer, there is very little that Windows-8 brings to the table. Now, when one adds an expensive touch screens and pitches to the non-business marketplace, Windows-8 does come more into its own.

I think it's more about Acer's trolling.

Their problem with win8 isn't win8. It's Surface and their own crappy products.
Just like Valve's problem with win8 isn't actually win8... it's a competing store on the platform.

So they troll, which is very stupid because in the end they'll only hurt themselves if they succeed in trolling.

I don't get why people buy chromeOS devices. Or any Google OS for that matter.

People need to realise that the PRIMARY reason why Google created chrome, chromeOS, android, google docs, gmail, etc ... is to have easier access to your personal data, your interests, your search history, your overall online activity... to basically sell that data to advertisers to make money.

I've done the test with completely new accounts, it is beyond disgusting.
Send a single mail about a certain subject from a newly created gmail account then visit a random website that uses google ads and see what happens...
The same goes for using google docs, chrome, google the search engine, google+, android, etc.

I've completely abbandoned google and do not plan on returning to their services like... ever. I advice anyone who values his privacy and his data to do the same.

On a sidenote, the EU is currently debating laws and regulations that would prevent internet companies from using such data to make money by making it available to third parties (like advertisers). While it is - at this point at least - low in probability that these laws will be accepted, IF they get accepted, it would instantly mean the end of "free" failbook and google services.

Facebook and google might seem like giants with loads of money. In reality they are in a VERY vulnerable spot. If the world tomorrow starts to take privacy and personal info seriously, both these companies (and all others like them) are in BIG trouble. And I mean HUGE trouble.

While they generate a bit of revenue from other sources, it pales in comparision to what they make by selling YOUR data.

So yeah... a chromebook or android device is the very very last thing on my mind - if on my mind at all.

Windows 8 sales are 100 times higher then Chome OS, but who cares? Windows is from Microsoft, blame them!

By the way, Neowin, I'm not mad at you, but you forgot the 'r' in Wongs name -> Wrong

shut the Wong up!!!

or...

Get the Wong out of here!!!

Note to mr. Wong: Just switch to Chromebooks. Please.... Really.....

;-P

Windows 8 will be skipped by 90% of the world people just need to accept it and move on.

The truth hurts and more people every day are starting to understand that windows 8 is a no go.

TurboShrimp said,
Windows 8 will be skipped by 90% of the world people just need to accept it and move on.

The truth hurts and more people every day are starting to understand that windows 8 is a no go.

Really, have you asked 90% of the world whether they'll be skipping Windows 8?

I seriously doubt you have!!!

TurboShrimp said,
Windows 8 will be skipped by 90% of the world people just need to accept it and move on.

The truth hurts and more people every day are starting to understand that windows 8 is a no go.

Just moved past OS X in usage, so I guess the whole Mac thing is a failure as well?

Idiot.

thenetavenger said,

Just moved past OS X in usage, so I guess the whole Mac thing is a failure as well?

Idiot.

So tell me, how much does a machine running OSX cost again?

Maybe I am missing something, but this guy pretty much says "Yeah, I have no real excuse for why my products arent selling". Read his quotes:

The whole market didn't come back to growth after the Windows 8 launch, that's a simple way to judge if it is successful or not

So Win8 sucks because it didnt prop up the whole market?

Wong said that the notebooks, based on Google's Chrome OS, have now taken up between five and 10 percent of all of Acer's notebook shipments in the US

5-10%....so whats the other 90-95%? Hope its not Win8, that would put a kink in the argument.

Wasn't the industry-wide sales down like 6 percent? So Acer is down 28% and blames WIndows 8. That sounds like Acer did much worse than everyone else to me.

JT Wong's sour grapes attitude may also have something to do with their rival, ASUS, getting the contract to make the Surface (Pegatron is sister company of ASUS). That and ASUS has really upped their game in both Win8 hybrids, ultrabooks, and even old & boring desktops. Acer meanwhile flounders with no direction... Chromebooks... yeah right.

I have an original Cr-48, and there is nothing wrong with the OS. It simply works, and does what it is designed for. This, like Acers, if they are being returned because they don't run windows, then that's the consumer's fault. My daughter has an Acer Chromebook, and it also works fine. I get the feeling that the fan boys don't like Chromebooks, because it's not their favorite, Windows. Face it, there are other OS's out there and they all work, or they wouldn't have lasted. Yes, some are better than others, but at this point, I'd describe them as different, and not go with the biased opinion that Windows is the best. Chromebooks do what they do very well. For comparison, I start my Windows computer, go get coffee, open my Chromebook, answer a couple emails, and by then, the Windows computer MAY be up and running.

simtek said,

For comparison, I start my Windows computer, go get coffee, open my Chromebook, answer a couple emails, and by then, the Windows computer MAY be up and running.

You must be one very fast person.

Either you have the world's quickest coffee machine and have a 500 WPM typing speed (in which case I am incredibly envious of you) or your problem is that you are trying to run Windows 7 on a 386 processor.

Windows 8, even with a Core i3 processor, with the advanced hibernation features, can get you going up on Windows in a matter of seconds. Doubly so with an SSD (which is what Chromebooks use). Your opinion on Windows is outdated my friend.

The Teej said,

Windows 8, even with a Core i3 processor, with the advanced hibernation features, can get you going up on Windows in a matter of seconds. Doubly so with an SSD (which is what Chromebooks use). Your opinion on Windows is outdated my friend.

No no no no no... Just no.
I have a Core 2 Duo @ 2.4 (crappier than the i3), and the OS just boots within 8 seconds on fast startup

simtek said,
I have an original Cr-48, and there is nothing wrong with the OS. It simply works, and does what it is designed for. This, like Acers, if they are being returned because they don't run windows, then that's the consumer's fault. My daughter has an Acer Chromebook, and it also works fine. I get the feeling that the fan boys don't like Chromebooks, because it's not their favorite, Windows. Face it, there are other OS's out there and they all work, or they wouldn't have lasted. Yes, some are better than others, but at this point, I'd describe them as different, and not go with the biased opinion that Windows is the best. Chromebooks do what they do very well. For comparison, I start my Windows computer, go get coffee, open my Chromebook, answer a couple emails, and by then, the Windows computer MAY be up and running.

1998 called. It wants its "Windoze is slow and kludgy" argument back.
What are you running? A 386?

simtek said,
I have an original Cr-48, and there is nothing wrong with the OS. It simply works, and does what it is designed for. This, like Acers, if they are being returned because they don't run windows, then that's the consumer's fault. My daughter has an Acer Chromebook, and it also works fine. I get the feeling that the fan boys don't like Chromebooks, because it's not their favorite, Windows. Face it, there are other OS's out there and they all work, or they wouldn't have lasted. Yes, some are better than others, but at this point, I'd describe them as different, and not go with the biased opinion that Windows is the best. Chromebooks do what they do very well. For comparison, I start my Windows computer, go get coffee, open my Chromebook, answer a couple emails, and by then, the Windows computer MAY be up and running.

Even our old low end P4s and 2006 Atom based netbooks with 4200 rpm traditional HDs boot Windows 8 in under 15 seconds.

So I am not going to believe you have a firm grasp of reality and dismiss everything you stated as idiocy.

the company that recently stepped it up bigtime is Lenovo. Just take a look at their beautiful hardware. That's how you do it.

Still waiting to see a single person that owns a chrome book in person....... have not see one since they came out.....

amazing return rates they are getting on those chromebooks when customers find they don't run windows. we've been this before with walmart and their Linux pcs.

neonspark said,
amazing return rates they are getting on those chromebooks when customers find they don't run windows. we've been this before with walmart and their Linux pcs.

Linux Netbooks 2005/2006 all over again.

Just as I mentioned somewhere else, I find it incredible to think that anyone is stupid enough to believe Microsoft can't and won't compete in the low end product space that Chrome OS is trying to wiggle itself into.

The same thing happened with cheap netbooks, consumers hated them, and Microsoft stood back and let consumer find out how horrible they were, and then jumped in to save OEMs with a $15 copy of Windows XP for netbooks.

Microsoft can and will compete in this space if they need, and will jump in with low cost Windows 8 Home licensing and possibly even basement level pricing for Windows RT that will run on the ChromeOS class of notebooks.

If anyone wants to see a ChromeOS notebook, work in the returns department, they are flooded with them, with used sales starting to surpass new sales, just like Netbooks 7 years ago that were running Linux.

Whatever you think of Windows 8, it has not been received well by about 50% of those who have reviewed it. This is a simple metric to analyse.

JasonD210 said,
Whatever you think of Windows 8, it has not been received well by about 50% of those who have reviewed it. This is a simple metric to analyse.

Simple metric? Then where's your source?

This is a very good point. It appears as though Google are finding a Niche market with the Chromebooks: People who want easy access to the internet to do simple stuff, but don't want all the touch screen nonsense.

Majesticmerc said,
This is a very good point. It appears as though Google are finding a Niche market with the Chromebooks: People who want easy access to the internet to do simple stuff, but don't want all the touch screen nonsense.

Question is, why pay $400+ for something I can download and install on any PC for free?

Dot Matrix said,

Question is, why pay $400+ for something I can download and install on any PC for free?

Chromebooks start at $199 as it says in the article, you'd struggle to find a windows PC for that price.

Dot Matrix said,
Question is, why pay $400+ for something I can download and install on any PC for free?

Well you wouldn't. You'd buy it as a cheap device for the kids to abuse while you keep your Nexus 4 or iPad or Surface RT nice and shiny, or you'd buy it instead of a tablet for basic surfing for about half the price of a normal laptop.

I don't really see it eating into Windows or Mac sales, rather complimenting them for people who never really wanted a full OS in the first place.

Windows 8 if anything lets OEMs raise their profit margins through selling new devices with touch and so on. I bet that for all the hype they get that those super cheap chromebooks have smaller a return than even the cheapest Windows 8 device Acer could sell.

"Google's Chrome OS, have now taken up between five and 10 percent of all of Acer's notebook shipments in the US."

Fuzzy maths... 5 - 10% of what total number?

Acer has always bitched about the latest Windows, not that there is anything wrong with them its just Acer angery that the newer version of Windows will have higher minimum specs which cuts into their profit margin. If you remember back they were really vocal against Windows Vista because they were selling laptops and Desktop's with 256-512MB at the time and had a cap in the BIOS of 1 GB (No wonder people had a bad experiance with Vista)

winrez said,
Acer has always bitched about the latest Windows, not that there is anything wrong with them its just Acer angery that the newer version of Windows will have higher minimum specs which cuts into their profit margin. If you remember back they were really vocal against Windows Vista because they were selling laptops and Desktop's with 256-512MB at the time and had a cap in the BIOS of 1 GB (No wonder people had a bad experiance with Vista)

Microsoft always put restriction about the minimum requirements But very few people know thart MS also put restriction about the maximum requirements.

MS always has been a OEM bully, it is just that Acer has the balls to complain openly.

They put the minimum requirements, so OEM like Acer can't produce junk computers which will make the OS running sluggish. The maximum requirements are there to protect compatibility such as Windows 32bit can only support 32bit, or can only support up to 32 cores ... etc ...

Acer has no balls to compete with other PC OEM, so it just whines all the time.

Brony said,

Microsoft always put restriction about the minimum requirements But very few people know thart MS also put restriction about the maximum requirements.

MS always has been a OEM bully, it is just that Acer has the balls to complain openly.

Brony said,

Microsoft always put restriction about the minimum requirements But very few people know thart MS also put restriction about the maximum requirements.

And what are the maximum requirements for Windows 8?

MDboyz said,
The maximum requirements are there to protect compatibility such as Windows 32bit can only support 32bit, or can only support up to 32 cores ... etc ...

Right, that's what I thought he was talking about. Those come down to either technical limitations or licensing issues. I remember there is a limitation to the number of processor sockets in a consumer version of Windows.

winrez said,
(No wonder people had a bad experiance with Vista)

Acer also put all their Vista laptops into Power Saver mode which made them perform like ass and guess what, people blamed Vista instead of Acer.

I'm interested to know which vendor has the most kudos amongst Microsoft enthusiasts on here, seeing as Acer is now taking a panning.

Hypothetically, assuming Windows sales were bad (no idea if they are, and don't really care), and vendors had some mass rebellion against Microsoft, who's opinion would it actually take for you guys to say "Damn.. maybe Windows 8 is a flop.." rather than just pan them as being clueless / unable to innovate / etc..

Analysts get widely panned on here, as do vendors themselves. Do you guys only take Microsofts word as gospel and no-one elses?

Chicane-UK said,
I'm interested to know which vendor has the most kudos amongst Microsoft enthusiasts on here, seeing as Acer is now taking a panning.

Hypothetically, assuming Windows sales were bad (no idea if they are, and don't really care), and vendors had some mass rebellion against Microsoft, who's opinion would it actually take for you guys to say "Damn.. maybe Windows 8 is a flop.." rather than just pan them as being clueless / unable to innovate / etc..

Analysts get widely panned on here, as do vendors themselves. Do you guys only take Microsofts word as gospel and no-one elses?


When it comes from the company that has been whining for months because Microsoft released the Surface, it has legitimacy concerns... LOL To say the least.

Chicane-UK said,
I'm interested to know which vendor has the most kudos amongst Microsoft enthusiasts on here, seeing as Acer is now taking a panning.

Hypothetically, assuming Windows sales were bad (no idea if they are, and don't really care), and vendors had some mass rebellion against Microsoft, who's opinion would it actually take for you guys to say "Damn.. maybe Windows 8 is a flop.." rather than just pan them as being clueless / unable to innovate / etc..

Analysts get widely panned on here, as do vendors themselves. Do you guys only take Microsofts word as gospel and no-one elses?

Sales of windows 8 machines are awful in the real world, there really are no 'credible' vendors unless they are giving constant praise to windows 8 and Ballmer and blaming everyone else for how poorly windows 8 is doing.

Order_66 said,

Sales of windows 8 machines are awful in the real world, there really are no 'credible' vendors unless they are giving constant praise to windows 8 and Ballmer and blaming everyone else for how poorly windows 8 is doing.

You've got it all wrong. Acer only started complaining when Microsoft announced their Surface tablet. It's not that they think Windows 8 is a fail it's because they are butthurt that theres a new player in town and he's bigger brighter and more beautiful.

Chicane-UK said,
I'm interested to know which vendor has the most kudos amongst Microsoft enthusiasts on here, seeing as Acer is now taking a panning.

Hypothetically, assuming Windows sales were bad (no idea if they are, and don't really care), and vendors had some mass rebellion against Microsoft, who's opinion would it actually take for you guys to say "Damn.. maybe Windows 8 is a flop.." rather than just pan them as being clueless / unable to innovate / etc..

Analysts get widely panned on here, as do vendors themselves. Do you guys only take Microsofts word as gospel and no-one elses?

1. Windows div just directly reported 24% increase, Acer just reported 28% decline. QED the problem is with Acer.


2. Just because people run windows, it does not mean there ass is perpetually at the disposal of some vendor- classic apple fan boy mistake

Deviate_X said,

1. Windows div just directly reported 24% increase, Acer just reported 28% decline. QED the problem is with Acer.


2. Just because people run windows, it does not mean there ass is perpetually at the disposal of some vendor- classic apple fan boy mistake

I'm an Apple fanboy? Because I ask a fairly impartial question like that? I don't want to resort to insults but you are exactly what is wrong with Neowin.. rather than jumping to a hasty and incorrect conclusion (I run Windows Phone, and use Windows exclusively at work and home FFS) why not just simply answer the damn question rather than trying to put in some kind of cheapshot - and being wrong into the bargain.

Classic Windows fanboy mistake.

Chicane-UK said,

I'm an Apple fanboy? Because I ask a fairly impartial question like that? I don't want to resort to insults but you are exactly what is wrong with Neowin.. rather than jumping to a hasty and incorrect conclusion (I run Windows Phone, and use Windows exclusively at work and home FFS) why not just simply answer the damn question rather than trying to put in some kind of cheapshot - and being wrong into the bargain.

Classic Windows fanboy mistake.

I think they did give you an answer, but you don't seem to like it.

If you assume there is some vendor connection with buyers in the PC world, that by definition means you are NOT A PART OF THE PC consumer world and either run Linux or OS X, making you either A) Linux fanboii or B) Mac fanboi.

There is no such thing as a consumer that only buys HP or Dell or Acer or generic brand XYZ. There are brands consumers will avoid *cough Acer*, but never is a consumer blindly locked into just one hardware OEM.

The case tends to fall the other direction, and if HP offers a better product, even if people hate them, they will often overlook a past bad product and try HP again.

Chicane-UK said,
I'm interested to know which vendor has the most kudos amongst Microsoft enthusiasts on here, seeing as Acer is now taking a panning.

Hypothetically, assuming Windows sales were bad (no idea if they are, and don't really care), and vendors had some mass rebellion against Microsoft, who's opinion would it actually take for you guys to say "Damn.. maybe Windows 8 is a flop.." rather than just pan them as being clueless / unable to innovate / etc..

Analysts get widely panned on here, as do vendors themselves. Do you guys only take Microsofts word as gospel and no-one elses?

To answer the first part of your comment I feel that the big five are, in no particular order:

Lenovo
HP Compaq
Sony
Samsung
ASUS

As you can see Acer don't even appear in it. The fact is that Acer have always made cheap hardware, and they just can't keep up with other OEMs with their current product line. Instead of creating decent hardware they just whinge about Windows 8 and Windows RT.

I say good riddance to them, if all they can do is whinge then it's time they left creating Windows machines to the big boys in the industry.

neo158 said,

To answer the first part of your comment I feel that the big five are, in no particular order:

Lenovo
HP Compaq
Sony
Samsung
ASUS

As you can see Acer don't even appear in it. The fact is that Acer have always made cheap hardware, and they just can't keep up with other OEMs with their current product line. Instead of creating decent hardware they just whinge about Windows 8 and Windows RT.

I say good riddance to them, if all they can do is whinge then it's time they left creating Windows machines to the big boys in the industry.

And yet mysteriously Acer branded machines and tablets are the top seller at the store I work at followed by HP and from what I've been told it's the same at all the stores in our nationwide chain.

For making such "crap" products people sure seem to like buying them...

thenetavenger said,

I think they did give you an answer, but you don't seem to like it.

If you assume there is some vendor connection with buyers in the PC world, that by definition means you are NOT A PART OF THE PC consumer world and either run Linux or OS X, making you either A) Linux fanboii or B) Mac fanboi.

There is no such thing as a consumer that only buys HP or Dell or Acer or generic brand XYZ. There are brands consumers will avoid *cough Acer*, but never is a consumer blindly locked into just one hardware OEM.

The case tends to fall the other direction, and if HP offers a better product, even if people hate them, they will often overlook a past bad product and try HP again.

I'm interested in technology. I buy whatever tool I like to do the job. I'm not some narrowminded, blinkered peon who religiously defends a single company and buys every product they make - if I think it doesn't work, or it's a bad product, I'll buy something else from someone else that DOES work.

Just because I pass a negative comment on Microsoft that does not automatically make me a fanboy for the companies which compete with Microsoft!

no surprise windows 8 is a Fail.
even the company that produce it don't have their main apps (Office) with modern (Metro) UI. that is pathetic .

sinis said,
no surprise windows 8 is a Fail.
even the company that produce it don't have their main apps (Office) with modern (Metro) UI. that is pathetic .


Are you serious? Do you have any idea of how much work and time is needed to port office apps to a whole new API? It doesn't seem like you do.

GP007 said,


Are you serious? Do you have any idea of how much work and time is needed to port office apps to a whole new API? It doesn't seem like you do.


Clearly not. But he'll pretend he does anyway...

And let's not forget that not all programs make sense in Modern UI, and thus will remain on the desktop. Microsoft has stated this repeatedly.

M_Lyons10 said,

Clearly not. But he'll pretend he does anyway...

And let's not forget that not all programs make sense in Modern UI, and thus will remain on the desktop. Microsoft has stated this repeatedly.

However it just does not make sense for a "tablet" user expected to use the desktop UI version of the Microsoft Office. The fact that having both Metro and desktop UI isn't really good. Metro UI is going to screw up desktop and laptop users. And desktop UI is going to screw up tablet users.

tanjiajun_34 said,
However it just does not make sense for a "tablet" user expected to use the desktop UI version of the Microsoft Office. The fact that having both Metro and desktop UI isn't really good. Metro UI is going to screw up desktop and laptop users. And desktop UI is going to screw up tablet users.

Windows 8 RT (The one for "tablet" users) comes with a touch friendly Office...

sinis said,
no surprise windows 8 is a Fail.
even the company that produce it don't have their main apps (Office) with modern (Metro) UI. that is pathetic .

Office 2013 runs on Windows 7 as well. If it were using the modern interface only, it would not run on Win 7.

M_Lyons10 said,

Windows 8 RT (The one for "tablet" users) comes with a touch friendly Office...

Those touch friendly enhancements are also present in Office 2013 for Windows 8 if you are using a touch screen. For example, if you invoke a context menu using touch (normally just a right click on your mouse), the menu items are spaced further apart so that you can accurately hit the right menu item with your finger.

well, about ACER, i dnt know, but yeah, about windows 8, it has flopped, atleast in my country.
many of my frnds ordered laptops recently, nd they got windows 8 preinstalled, dnt know why even though they got a latest OS, they removed their GENUINE LATEST OS nd put a pirated copy of win 7(ultimate version).
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some claimed that they had issues with softwares like BLACKBERRY DESKTOP software, while connecting to internet and some minor issues.

still what has OS to do with a laptop, even DELL laptops come preinstalled wid win8, but their sales are too high.........

My dear Acer, if you're so happy with the way Chromebooks are selling, sell only them.

We won't miss you when you're gone.

I don't see why the success of Win8 matter to Acer since they hate it so much. But this has no effect on me though.

After I bought my very first Acer laptop 3.5 years ago, I never look forward to buy any of their product again. I'm eagerly waiting for Surface Pro to land here.

Ok Acer go ahead and sell Chromebooks then get back to us when you realise you were fools for thinking you could get away with making crappy products in a tough and ever evolving market. Maybe start innovating rather then sitting on your ass trying to blame others for your problems. If you don't get back to us and do legitimately think that more people would want Chromebooks then Windows PCs then I regret to inform you that your company will be on its last legs and die out like the many other PC OEMs!

Torolol said,
well, licensing Google's Chrome OS, IS a lot cheapers than licensing Windows 8.

Not in the long run it won't be, kinda like OEMs licensing Ubuntu for their netbooks, practically free but no sales.

ingramator said,

Not in the long run it won't be, kinda like OEMs licensing Ubuntu for their netbooks, practically free but no sales.

The article is stating that Chromebooks ARE selling.

Well im about to sell my Chromebook. I like new technology and thought i would give it a go. I can see the chromebook being very successful in the future however at the moment they need to work harder on the offline element.

My hope was to have a very lightweight laptop with a decent keyboard to take on the train as i commute daily, with the laptop i was hoping to bang out a few reports etc.. However the offline/online sync of Google Doc's doesn't work very well, sometimes documents just disappear when they were created offline. The OS is a little unstable, i put the system to sleep by closing the lid, when i open the lid a little later the OS reboots. Now this may not seem much of a problem as the OS boots pretty quickly, however i have two form factor authentication on so it becomes a pain having to fish out my phone to authenticate my login, this is if i am in an area with internet access.

I brought a samsung chromebook and the hardware is great, the keyboard, screen and trackpad work well, it's just the OS is a little beta'ish at the moment.

I don't know how that translates to the article above, i just wanted to share some thoughts on my chromebook experience.

REM2000 said,
Well im about to sell my Chromebook. I like new technology and thought i would give it a go. I can see the chromebook being very successful in the future however at the moment they need to work harder on the offline element.

My hope was to have a very lightweight laptop with a decent keyboard to take on the train as i commute daily, with the laptop i was hoping to bang out a few reports etc.. However the offline/online sync of Google Doc's doesn't work very well, sometimes documents just disappear when they were created offline. The OS is a little unstable, i put the system to sleep by closing the lid, when i open the lid a little later the OS reboots. Now this may not seem much of a problem as the OS boots pretty quickly, however i have two form factor authentication on so it becomes a pain having to fish out my phone to authenticate my login, this is if i am in an area with internet access.

I brought a samsung chromebook and the hardware is great, the keyboard, screen and trackpad work well, it's just the OS is a little beta'ish at the moment.

I don't know how that translates to the article above, i just wanted to share some thoughts on my chromebook experience.

ok are you sure you did not set the update form of chrome Os to update to beta versions or developer versions cause if so then this is why it is unstable make sure you have a stable version set to update to . i run the CR-48 from google and have not has the issues you have had i think somehow you may not be on the latest version of chrome Os stable or so

nope still on the stable channel, i checked twice as i thought the same thing. Like i said you can see how it will be shaped in the future, but at the moment it's just a little unreliable and a little too basic, i expect when they introduce the ability to edit excel/spreadhseets offline then it will pick up a bit more.

Well then, they should completely switch to Chrome OS. We'll see how that goes. Do us all a favor and kill this awful company. Or at least stop whining.

Drossel said,
Well then, they should completely switch to Chrome OS. We'll see how that goes. Do us all a favor and kill this awful company. Or at least stop whining.

Yes kill this company because they speak the bitter truth about windows 8!

Drossel said,
No, kill the company because they make crappy products.

But they only make crappy products because they don't like windows 8, but if they praised windows 8 their products would be considered 'top notch' and the 'go to' place for a new computer not to mention JT Wong might get his face plastered on the cover of Time magazine!

Order_66 said,

Yes kill this company because they speak the bitter truth about windows 8!


No they aren't... They have been whining since Microsoft unveiled the Surface. That's all this is... It's embarrassing.

Drossel said,
No, kill the company because they make crappy products.

Agreed.

M_Lyons10 said,

No they aren't... They have been whining since Microsoft unveiled the Surface. That's all this is... It's embarrassing.
Agreed.

But sales of their chromebooks are "amazing"! A lot of people must really want to buy "crappy products"!

Order_66 said,

But they only make crappy products because they don't like windows 8, but if they praised windows 8 their products would be considered 'top notch' and the 'go to' place for a new computer not to mention JT Wong might get his face plastered on the cover of Time magazine!

... What are you talking about? Acer make poor products and always have. Other PC makers have had better Win 8 sales than Acer because they actually make stuff thats atleast good-ish.

MS was completely right to make Surface regardless if it p****d off Acer and others, because obviously nearly all these companies still can't make good products. Even Surface RT has it's flaws (low res screen and slow SoC) but it's still the clearly best Win 8 tablet around. About the only other makers of good near consistently well designed Windows products are Asus.

Drossel said,
No, kill the company because they make crappy products.

I hate this nonsense that's always on Neowin; the little nerdy fads of hating this company or that company.

I don't know Acer as a company & don't particularly care to either. What I do know is that my 4 years old Acer laptop is still going strong.

People buy Acer Chromebooks only cause it's cheap, not because they think it's valuable products. That's the Acer's problem : they only think mass market sales cause it's the only way to get money on cheap (and sometimes crappy) products.

Order_66 said,

But they only make crappy products because they don't like windows 8, but if they praised windows 8 their products would be considered 'top notch' and the 'go to' place for a new computer not to mention JT Wong might get his face plastered on the cover of Time magazine!


Acer has made crappy products long before these Chromebooks, and has shipped a ton of crappy Windows hardware... The OS they use, has nothing to do with the crappy hardware they build and you have to be completely clueless to be on this site and not know that Acer's are crap. LOL

Order_66 said,

Yes kill this company because they speak the bitter truth about windows 8!

ya who knew a $199 laptop would sell better then a $800 laptop. /s

Order_66 said,

Yes kill this company because they speak the bitter truth about windows 8!

Ahm... you do realize this is Acer simply feeling extremely threatened - as they should - by Microsoft making their own high quality hardware, right? Really, what Q4-2012 did they expect when they barely had any touchscreen win8 hardware out there and most of it was built like crap... The only really respectable option out there was the Asus UX31A, all the other models I've seen were a pure disgrace.

Yes, Acer, run towards Chrome OS as fast as you can... Microsoft's expanding Surface family is here to getcha.

Drossel said
Well then, they should completely switch to Chrome OS. We'll see how that goes. Do us all a favor and kill this awful company. Or at least stop whining.
I was thinking the exact same thing too. When I read this I thought to myself "you do that Acer. And in a year, you tell us how that's coming along"..

Order_66 said,

Yes kill this company because they speak the bitter truth about windows 8!

Yeah Acer speaking the bitter truth about Windows 8 or the bitter truth about how much they suck in fact. Why isn't anyone else whining and complaining but Acer? Just because they can't make a product that people want doesn't mean anything for Windows 8. In about a year's time the Windows 8 ecosystem will be much healthier than it is today and Acer isn't helping their case at all with all their whining and moaning. I was actually considering a cheap Acer Win 8 machine eventually but this guy has gotten on my nerves so much with his whining that I'd rather dip my balls in acid than buy his crap.

And what success have they had with Chrome books? Who in the world really buys those things? Sounds more like some passive-aggressive statement than anything to do with reality.

Obry said,

Yeah Acer speaking the bitter truth about Windows 8 or the bitter truth about how much they suck in fact. Why isn't anyone else whining and complaining but Acer? Just because they can't make a product that people want doesn't mean anything for Windows 8. In about a year's time the Windows 8 ecosystem will be much healthier than it is today and Acer isn't helping their case at all with all their whining and moaning. I was actually considering a cheap Acer Win 8 machine eventually but this guy has gotten on my nerves so much with his whining that I'd rather dip my balls in acid than buy his crap.

And what success have they had with Chrome books? Who in the world really buys those things? Sounds more like some passive-aggressive statement than anything to do with reality.

That's exactly how I feel. With all the whinging Acer are doing Microsoft should just pull all the rights for them to use Windows as an OEM, and then we'll see how Chrome books work out for them!!!

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