Analyst: Nokia could ship 37 million Windows Phones in 2012

Nokia and Microsoft obviously want lots of people to purchase the Windows Phone-based Lumia line of smartphones. Now a new analyst note seems to be predicting good things for the collaboration. As reported by AllThingsD.com, Morgan Stanley predicts that Nokia could ship 37 million of those Windows Phone-based devices in 2012. That number will increase to 64 million units in 2013.

That would be a huge improvement for Windows Phone as a whole, considering that its current market share percentage among smartphone operating system is in the single digits.

Morgan Stanley has an even more optimistic projection for Windows Phone when it adds in its predicted shipments of devices made by HTC, the creators of the Titan and Radar phones. If those numbers are included with Nokia, that shows Windows Phone-based devices shipping 47 million units in 2012 and 74 million units in 2013.

Those numbers don't include Windows Phone-based devices made by other companies, primarily Samsung.  If Morgan Stanley is correct, then Windows Phone could be a much bigger competitor to Apple's iOS and Google's Android.

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LOL @ that graph. Right, so WP is going to grow 4000% in the space of a year. Okay.. Has this analyst been drinking the Nokia/Microsoft Koolaid?

At the end of the day Microsoft can and will do anything to make WP7 succeed just as they did with the Xbox360 in this generation...

WP is here to stay so get used to it fanboys...


I would have liked the name 'Windows Phone' to be 'XBOX Phone', as in portable XBOX device/smartphone thing.

Young and dynamic brand that sound fun, at least for me.

Fingers crossed for Nokia, apparently we need competition in this space. Too bad that so far they have really been no competition yet.

I read a comment yesterday that Win Phone is more like a phone, and Android and iOS is more like a computer. Could this be a problem for them?

Another possible problem is the 'Windows' name.

derekaw said,
Fingers crossed for Nokia, apparently we need competition in this space. Too bad that so far they have really been no competition yet.

I read a comment yesterday that Win Phone is more like a phone, and Android and iOS is more like a computer. Could this be a problem for them?

Another possible problem is the 'Windows' name.

Hmmm... that's an interesting comment. But it doesn't make much sense. They all have almost equal capabilities.

And as for the Windows name. It didn't stop Windows Mobile from reaching big. It's downfall was for another reason. And Windows is the most expensive software franchise. They could certainly use it's brand power.

FMH said,

Hmmm... that's an interesting comment. But it doesn't make much sense. They all have almost equal capabilities.

And as for the Windows name. It didn't stop Windows Mobile from reaching big. It's downfall was for another reason. And Windows is the most expensive software franchise. They could certainly use it's brand power.

My problem with the name "windows phone" is it doesn't describe the product. There are no "windows" on the phone. "metro"; or Tiles is a better name.

Android phones are more about customization. Windows phones in some ways are more about the standardization or consistency then the iphone.

Melfster said,

My problem with the name "windows phone" is it doesn't describe the product. There are no "windows" on the phone. "metro"; or Tiles is a better name.

Android phones are more about customization. Windows phones in some ways are more about the standardization or consistency then the iphone.


IIRC, it's still using Windows CE kernel (updated version ofc).

Melfster said,

My problem with the name "windows phone" is it doesn't describe the product. There are no "windows" on the phone. Its of a "metro" or Tiles is better name.

Correct There is no relation between Windows 7 and Windows Phone 7. They are completely different in looks.
But that will change, once the Windows 8 arrives.

I find it astounding that they believe windows phone sales will jump so much throughout the course of the next year. Have total sales for Windows Phone even reached 37 million yet?

Tk1917 said,
I find it astounding that they believe windows phone sales will jump so much throughout the course of the next year. Have total sales for Windows Phone even reached 37 million yet?

u forget something .ms and nokia expanding their market to other countries .i mean if its available in our country i know lot of people who would buy a wp

Shane Ekanayake said,

u forget something .ms and nokia expanding their market to other countries .i mean if its available in our country i know lot of people who would buy a wp

Yeah, Microsoft is aggressively expanding the countries WP ships to and supports. I think it's going to be a very different atmosphere this time next year...

i think wp will sell more than that when they introduce wp 8 with dual core support and all other small missing features from android and ios .also when the 2012 ends i think WP marketplace will have more than 200 000 apps .ohh and people will more familiar with metro because of w8

Shane Ekanayake said,
i think wp will sell more than that when they introduce wp 8 with dual core support and all other small missing features from android and ios .also when the 2012 ends i think WP marketplace will have more than 200 000 apps .ohh and people will more familiar with metro because of w8

maybe although not everyone wants metro on their desktop pc.

smooth3006 said,

maybe although not everyone wants metro on their desktop pc.

im not talking about desktop pc .im talking about tablets . win 8 will be a big hit among the tablet users also it will draw more people into tablet market
also there is a another market that people forget to mention.
tablet laptop hybrids which i think going to popular more than tablets when win 8 hits the market.
about win8 on desktop pc i agree with u . dont get me wrong i love metro in my pc but when i show win 8 to my not tech savvy friends most of them dont like it.

Shane Ekanayake said,

im not talking about desktop pc .im talking about tablets . win 8 will be a big hit among the tablet users also it will draw more people into tablet market
also there is a another market that people forget to mention.
tablet laptop hybrids which i think going to popular more than tablets when win 8 hits the market.
about win8 on desktop pc i agree with u . dont get me wrong i love metro in my pc but when i show win 8 to my not tech savvy friends most of them dont like it.

thats because metro sucks and doesn't belong anywhere near a pc.

smooth3006 said,
thats because metro sucks and doesn't belong anywhere near a pc.

That's why OSX and Linux exist.
I for one am waiting with anticipation of the new paradigm for desktop interaction.

smooth3006 said,

thats because metro sucks and doesn't belong anywhere near a pc.


When you say Metro sucks, can you please explain why?
I will say that Microsoft is creating Metro so people will be able to glance at their desktop and get the information they need, right away, instead of having to open multiple apps. They are trying something new. Whether it works out or not remains to be seen, however they are trying something. You can't even have the forethought to explain your comments, but would rather perform a hit and run on a conversation thread for no apparent reason. Seems rather lazy.

dotf said,

That's why OSX and Linux exist.
I for one am waiting with anticipation of the new paradigm for desktop interaction.

...or at the very least, waiting to give it a chance before you make up your mind? lol I honestly don't understand people that already know it's going to be the worst thing ever when they have absolutely no idea what the final product will look like. I had serious concerns about Metro on the desktop, and so far Microsoft has addressed almost all of them. I am not sold just yet, but I am going to reserve judgement until I know what the end product looks like. Call me crazy...

Shane Ekanayake said,

i think Symbian will be their backup plan if wp didnt succeed


Symbian has such a bad reputation since current Symbian devices perform so poorly, its very unlikely that Nokia shifts back to Symbian..
On the other hand WP is a more fluid platform and offers more usability, it'll be surely successful.

Shane Ekanayake said,

i think Symbian will be their backup plan if wp didnt succeed

They should go for Android as a backup....

Shane Ekanayake said,

i think Symbian will be their backup plan if wp didnt succeed

I won't call it a backup plan. It is just a temporary "money-maker" for them.

yowanvista said,
Nokia should kill Symbian and concentrate solely on WP.

Except that Symbian, now called Belle, is being put into handsets for 'emerging markets' at the rate of 1million sets per day.

Microsoft's OS cannot run on the hardware that's used for these markets. These are what we call disposable phones in the developed world, but for people in the target markets, a life line they've never known.

Belle has a lot of life left. Once the next iterations of windows phone 7x come out allowing the platform to excel on these devices, then we'll see the scale back of Belle, and a renewed push for Windows Phone.

smooth3006 said,
i doubt nokia will be the end all savior for wp7.

You are such a troll on every single WP news. If you hate it, just ignore it

WP doesn't needs Nokia "to be saved", it's the opposite.

Anthonyd said,

WP doesn't needs Nokia "to be saved", it's the opposite.

It's a little of both actually. Microsoft needs Nokia's big name, Nokia needs Microsoft's Mobile OS.

Anthonyd said,

WP doesn't needs Nokia "to be saved", it's the opposite.


WP7 need Nokia... thats the only way WP7 can grow.
people still buy Nokia with Symbian which pretty much dead now. and those dont care if Nokia comes with WP. they will buy not just because it is WP.

smooth3006 said,

better be a troll than a wp7 fanboy!

Troll's are idiots that refuse to use logic. Fanboys just ignore logic that goes against their views. So no, Id rather be a fanboy than a troll.

smooth3006 said,
better be a troll than a wp7 fanboy!

Well at least you admit that you are trolling, poor android fanboy

For the others > MS has many partners, Nokia will help them to make WP popular but they can live without it, just like they did for a year.

smooth3006 said,

better be a troll than a wp7 fanboy!


Not only are you saying it's better to be a hater than a fan, you're also suggesting it's better to seek out and specifically target one's hate, than to just, well, be a fan. Please explain.

Steve Sutton said,

Not only are you saying it's better to be a hater than a fan, you're also suggesting it's better to seek out and specifically target one's hate, than to just, well, be a fan. Please explain.

He likes the attention... lol Trolls, in my experience, have this deep desire to be an expert about something they make clear quickly they know nothing about... I can only suspect this is due largely to their complete lack of control over anything in their own lives... So they hate simply for the sake of hating.

smooth3006 said,

better be a troll than a wp7 fanboy!

Lol!
No, I think it's better to be a fan. It is a positive emotion.