Android soars to 52% global share as rival platforms stumble

Market research analysts Gartner have released worldwide smartphone sales data for the last quarter, and it seems that the only platform that’s going to be celebrating these results will be Android. In a nutshell (and if you can’t be bothered to read through the breakdown below), the figures tell a simple story: Android up; iOS, BlackBerry, Symbian down; Windows Phone flat.

The global market for mobile devices grew by 5.6% to 440.5 million sales to end users worldwide, including smartphones and feature phones (or 'dumb phones', if you prefer). Over 115 million smartphones were sold around the world in the third quarter.

Android now commands a staggering 52.5% of the smartphone market and that figure is even more astonishing when you consider that, this time last year, it had less than half that, with 25.3%. Android sold more than three times as many smartphones as the next biggest seller, the dwindling Symbian platform, which has seen its market share more than halved over the past year, falling from 36.3% to less than 17% last quarter.

Android’s main rival, iOS, actually saw its market share fall. Sales of Apple smartphones were up by almost four million units year-on-year, but the growth in the global smartphone market as a whole meant that its share of the market in fact decreased, from 16.6% to 15% by the end of September.

Sales of RIM’s BlackBerry devices remained almost stagnant (fairly modest growth of fewer than 200,000 sales), but as with Apple, the growth of the wider market outpaced the growth of the platform, and so RIM saw its market share slide yet again, this time by over 4%, leaving it with just 11% worldwide.

But Microsoft’s Windows Phone platform again failed to live up to its potential. Year-on-year, Microsoft’s global smartphone market share fell from 2.7% to 1.5%. Sales in the third quarter were almost completely flat compared with the previous quarter; 1.702m in 3Q, versus 1.724m in Q2, with quarterly share actually declining by 0.1%.

Roberta Cozza, principal research analyst for Gartner, attempted to put these figures into some context:

“Android benefited from more mass-market offerings, a weaker competitive environment and the lack of exciting new products on alternative operating systems such as Windows Phone 7 and RIM. Apple’s iOS market share suffered from delayed purchases as consumers waited for the new iPhone. Continued pressure is impacting RIM’s performance, and its smartphone share reached its lowest point so far in the US market.”

RIM’s prospects for reversing its declining share aren’t looking good; there’s demonstrable lack of interest in its product among consumers, and its next-generation devices - the first of which, the BlackBerry ‘London’ was leaked yesterday – are at least six months away.

Windows Phone is arguably in a better position to stop its decline, with the first new Nokia handset powered by the Windows Phone 7.5 OS officially going on sale tomorrow. The Lumia 800 has so far received overwhelmingly positive reactions and reviews from the media and the blogosphere and consumer interest appears to be high, on the back of an aggressive marketing push by Nokia and Microsoft. Nokia remains the top vendor of mobile devices worldwide with over 105.3m handsets sold in the last quarter, but it remains to be seen whether it can translate that into sales of its Windows Phones.

Gartner believes that the combined efforts of the two companies will see improvements in the fourth quarter, but that “a true turnaround won’t take place until the second half of 2012”.

Given the pace at which Android devices are flooding the smartphone market, they’ve got a massive challenge ahead of them.

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Windows Phone is arguably in a better position to stop its decline, with the first new Nokia handset powered by the Windows Phone 7.5 OS officially going on sale tomorrow

At 1.5%, the only way is up lol. It can't go down much further.

Well, since the iPhone 4S didn't get released until Oct 14th ... and many people were holding off buying the iPhone 4 to see what Apple would release, my guess is that Q4 2011 will see a huge increase for Apple in overall market share especially since their single handset works on pretty much every kind of 3G network out there. I wouldn't be surprised if Apple and Google were even for Q4 2011 in terms of market share, and Apple saw double the unit sales to end users for that quarter.

For those talking about the need to segregate Windows Mobile 6.x sales from those of Windows Phone 7, these figures actually already do that fairly well.

Windows Phone was on sale for almost none of Q3 2010, which means that the figures above for 'Microsoft' in that period of 2.7% market share and 2.204m sales is effectively just Windows Mobile 6.x devices.

Fast forward to Q3 2011. Although there are still a handful of Windows Mobile 6.x handsets still on sale (for very specialist and niche roles), these aren't selling in significant numbers. So the Q3 figures of 1.702m sales and 1.5% market share is effectively just Windows Phone 7.

Playing devil's advocate for a moment, then: one could read these figures as stating that Windows Phone 7 is selling in fewer numbers than Windows Mobile 6.x was in its dying days.

The more relevant WP7 vs WP7 comparison of Q2 and Q3 Windows Phone sales indicates that sales didn't grow at all last quarter (in fact, they fell by a few thousand compared with the previous quarter). There's not really any flattering way to shape those numbers - sales are flat; Windows Phone isn't yet growing. Year-on-year, sales appear lower than its predecessor.

That doesn't mean that Windows Phone is a bad product; what it really means is that it arrived on the market so late that it's struggling to get noticed against the Android and iOS products that people are already very familiar with. So while its competitors are increasing their sales, Windows Phone has been struggling to get people to even notice it and register it on their radar. That should change in time - and with enough marketing clout and money behind it.

Most industry analysts, knowledgeable journalists and other objective observers are in no doubt that Windows Phone will become the 'third ecosystem'. Even the most conservative independent projections indicate that Windows Phone is likely to take at least 10% of the market by 2013. But it's a long way from that point right now. Right now, and for a second consecutive quarter, it's stuck at 1.7m sales and 1.5% share.

Windows Phone failed hard AGAIN? What a shock! No marketing + nothing competitive = epic fail. The only thing WP has for it is the Microsoft as life support.

Funny how everyone kept saying "fragmentation is killing Android", while the marketshare grew again. Some of these "experts" should consider changing fields.

LOL all I see are excuses from the WP7 crowd and " wait until this" or "wait until that". I also LOVE the reasoning that sales are flat because of WM declines. So then you're admitting that WP7's share is significantly less than a whopping 1.5%. Basically any way you look at it, WP7 is bombing big time.

JPXi said,
LOL all I see are excuses from the WP7 crowd and " wait until this" or "wait until that". I also LOVE the reasoning that sales are flat because of WM declines. So then you're admitting that WP7's share is significantly less than a whopping 1.5%. Basically any way you look at it, WP7 is bombing big time.

Flat means no change. I see a decline in Microsoft. Notice this "journalist" use of words.

...the figures tell a simple story: Android up; iOS, BlackBerry, Symbian down; Windows Phone flat.

Also, that's all I ever here. wait for Mango (I guess Mangos are not ripe this time of year). Wait for Nokia,. Wait for Apollo. STILL WAITING!

Windows Mobile is still outselling Windows Phone? REALLY? That's your excuse of the day? PATHETIC ARGUMENT!

JPXi said,
LOL all I see are excuses from the WP7 crowd and " wait until this" or "wait until that". I also LOVE the reasoning that sales are flat because of WM declines. So then you're admitting that WP7's share is significantly less than a whopping 1.5%. Basically any way you look at it, WP7 is bombing big time.

I have to agree. I bought my WP7 with the thought of trying something new. I gave Microsoft exactly 1 year to "wow" me, never happened. Now trying Android and love it so far. Lets see where I am in a year.

JPXi said,
LOL all I see are excuses from the WP7 crowd and " wait until this" or "wait until that". I also LOVE the reasoning that sales are flat because of WM declines. So then you're admitting that WP7's share is significantly less than a whopping 1.5%. Basically any way you look at it, WP7 is bombing big time.

LOL! I see even more excuses from Linux fans. They have been saying for 20 years that this will be the year of the desktop Linux. But it ALWAYS remains and ALWAYS will remain 1%. LOL! The same with Mac OS. It has 5% market share after 30+ years. LOL! On the other hand Windows has 92% share.

Windows Phone has been on the market for just 1 year. And it is going to succeed just like Xbox has destroyed PS3 to become the most popular gaming console in the history. LOL!

england_fanboy said,

LOL! I see even more excuses from Linux fans. They have been saying for 20 years that this will be the year of the desktop Linux. But it ALWAYS remains and ALWAYS will remain 1%. LOL! The same with Mac OS. It has 5% market share after 30+ years. LOL! On the other hand Windows has 92% share.

Windows Phone has been on the market for just 1 year. And it is going to succeed just like Xbox has destroyed PS3 to become the most popular gaming console in the history. LOL!

You mention Linux saying "This is going to be our year" but you FAIL to mention that's what the Windows Phone fan boys have been saying. You also failed to mention the Zune. How is that working out for ya? iPod killer? iTunes killer?

You also failed to mention that Apple is worth more than Microsoft.
http://mashable.com/2011/06/06/apple-worth-more-than-wintel/

Yeah, keep dreaming.

UndergroundWire said,

You mention Linux saying "This is going to be our year" but you FAIL to mention that's what the Windows Phone fan boys have been saying. You also failed to mention the Zune. How is that working out for ya? iPod killer? iTunes killer?

Yeah, keep dreaming.

LOL! That's why I said, Windows Phone has been out in the market for just 1 year. While Linux has been available for more than 20 years. If Windows Phone has 1% market share after 20 years, only then will it be anywhere near as big a failure as Linux.

england_fanboy said,

LOL! That's why I said, Windows Phone has been out in the market for just 1 year. While Linux has been available for more than 20 years. If Windows Phone has 1% market share after 20 years, only then will it be anywhere near as big a failure as Linux.

You're not understanding me. What makes Windows Phone special? You guys are saying this year or this update will be on top and it keeps declining. You're falling into the linux trap.

UndergroundWire said,

You're not understanding me. What makes Windows Phone special? You guys are saying this year or this update will be on top and it keeps declining. You're falling into the linux trap.


Windows Phone is special because it has by far the greatest user interface of any smartphone OS in history. But there hasn't been enough attractive devices in its first year in the market -- I'm not talking about specs. Now that has changed with Nokia Lumia 800, HTC Titan and Samsung Focus S. Plus, Mango has smoothed out a lot of the rough edges. And the marketing has well and truly begun. So, there is only one way Windows Phone is going -- and that's up.

And by the way, Mango update was released AT THE END OF this 3rd quarter. So your logic doesn't hold at all.

england_fanboy said,

Windows Phone is special because it has by far the greatest user interface of any smartphone OS in history. But there hasn't been enough attractive devices in its first year in the market -- I'm not talking about specs. Now that has changed with Nokia Lumia 800, HTC Titan and Samsung Focus S. Plus, Mango has smoothed out a lot of the rough edges. And the marketing has well and truly begun. So, there is only one way Windows Phone is going -- and that's up.

And by the way, Mango update was released AT THE END OF this 3rd quarter. So your logic doesn't hold at all.

Actually your argument doesn't hold up.

1) "The greatest user interface of any smartphone os"? seriously, that is subjective. Show me a source for your naive claim.

2) Windows Phone has been going down for the past year. I haven't seen any signs of it going up. You'd better hope it goes up before Microsoft pulls the plug, again.

3) The fourth quarter will paint a different picture and I'll tell you what that is: a) iPhone will go back up since the iPhone 4S has been released and a lot of people bought it; b) Android will still go up thanks to better marketing of 4G LTE and dual-core devices c) Windows Phone will be extremely lucky to get a .2% increase (that's read POINT TWO PERCENT, in case you don't see that dot there).

Let's see if I am right yet again.

I love the Applephites, as soon as anyone remotely suggests something is better than the almighty Apple, the excuses flow. Bottom line I have owned all 4 major OS's, iOs (iPhone 3g), BlackBerry (Some Motorola crap my company gave me), WP7 (Samsung Focus) and now my shiny new Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket and I have to say Android wins hands down. Can not explain it but it works and all the little extra's simply make sense. Oh and refunds on the Android Market, top notch.

SlapHappy said,
I love the Applephites, as soon as anyone remotely suggests something is better than the almighty Apple, the excuses flow. Bottom line I have owned all 4 major OS's, iOs (iPhone 3g), BlackBerry (Some Motorola crap my company gave me), WP7 (Samsung Focus) and now my shiny new Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket and I have to say Android wins hands down. Can not explain it but it works and all the little extra's simply make sense. Oh and refunds on the Android Market, top notch.

Samsung makes Sense? /s

Android is a nice OS and you get cheaper options for it, so that must fuel much of this. That said I recently deserted the iPhone out of being bored of iOS.

Laura said,
Android is a nice OS and you get cheaper options for it, so that must fuel much of this. That said I recently deserted the iPhone out of being bored of iOS.

I did the same, 3G then iPhone 4 to the HTC Desire which is Android, today I am moving back to iOS with the 4S. I loved playing games on my iPhone. Android lacks decent games.

blade1269 said,
Well that's because there are 300,00 kinds of android phones. Some of them you can get them free.

Check Amazon Wireless. Several Windows Phones and Blackberry's for free or a penny.

RangerLG said,

Check Amazon Wireless. Several Windows Phones and Blackberry's for free or a penny.

On more expensive price plans.

I highly doubt people buy/pick their phones based off of Android. And its not like there is much to choose from. The price has a lot to do with it.

jd100 said,
I highly doubt people buy/pick their phones based off of Android. And its not like there is much to choose from. The price has a lot to do with it.

And how it looks and operates. Let's face it. You can get a blackberry for real cheap.

Wait...So you are telling me, Android which is installed on 20+ handsets, made by 6+ different companies is over taking iOS which is on just a handful of devices sold by just 1 company. I'm shocked! <------ that's my shocked face!

warwagon said,
Wait...So you are telling me, Android which is installed on 20+ handsets, made by 6+ different companies is over taking iOS which is on just a handful of devices sold by just 1 company. I'm shocked! <------ that's my shocked face!

Forget iOS what's Windows Phone excuse? They have multiple manufacturers and multiple carriers.

warwagon said,
Wait...So you are telling me, Android which is installed on 20+ handsets, made by 6+ different companies is over taking iOS which is on just a handful of devices sold by just 1 company. I'm shocked! <------ that's my shocked face!

Really? We need to listen to this same old regurgitated nonsense? This is an unbiased market share report, it helps identify the movements of mobile OS's but that's it. Nothing is taken into consideration regarding the amount of devices so why oh why do we need to listen to this everytime.

Hollow.Droid said,

Really? We need to listen to this same old regurgitated nonsense? This is an unbiased market share report, it helps identify the movements of mobile OS's but that's it. Nothing is taken into consideration regarding the amount of devices so why oh why do we need to listen to this everytime.

Because he hates Android. But we can use his "argument" against Windows Phone.

UndergroundWire said,

Forget iOS what's Windows Phone excuse? They have multiple manufacturers and multiple carriers.

+1

Windows Phone is not picking up any traction at all...wonder if its because they use last gen tech or because they have a hideous UI? Maybe both

Not a surprise. Walk into a phone store and they will practically force an android phone on you. Most consumers wouldnt even know or care what OS they are running. It will be interesting to see how these figures change now that stores have substantial WP advertising.

stupid analysis... they put android and they mean phones and tablets etc... ios phones and tablet etc... if the put Microsoft are they not talking about windows wp7 office... etc.

benalvino said,
stupid analysis... they put android and they mean phones and tablets etc... ios phones and tablet etc... if the put Microsoft are they not talking about windows wp7 office... etc.

Windows Phone 7 is not Windows 7. People actually like to use Windows 7.

Android OS on Phones is still Android OS Tablet.
iOS Phone is still iOS Tablet.

UndergroundWire said,

Windows Phone 7 is not Windows 7. People actually like to use Windows 7.

Android OS on Phones is still Android OS Tablet.
iOS Phone is still iOS Tablet.

You didn't get my point... I mean microsoft is a name of a company not an operating system... If he says microsoft it means he should count windows 7 office windows phone windows mobile... Etc...

benalvino said,

You didn't get my point... I mean microsoft is a name of a company not an operating system... If he says microsoft it means he should count windows 7 office windows phone windows mobile... Etc...

WRONG! They say Microsoft because Windows Mobile and Windows Phone are combined. Those are their mobile platforms. Somebody doesn't get it. Would you like to see Windows Phone by itself? I sure would. It would keep the fan boys quiet for a long time.

I hope you do understand that this is just sales in 3 month period. It's not how many actual users of particular platform there are.

yikes said,
I hope you do understand that this is just sales in 3 month period. It's not how many actual users of particular platform there are.

Microsoft's numbers hasn't changed at all in the last year. Total sales about 6 Million since launch (= 8 days of Android sales, 2 weeks of iPhone sales).

Bada OS is more popular than WP7 that's got to sting.

Actually maybe I should check out Bada, being that it's the only one that grew it's percentage share other than Android.

Chrispynutt said,
Bada OS is more popular than WP7 that's got to sting.

Actually maybe I should check out Bada, being that it's the only one that grew it's percentage share other than Android.

Ouch, that's gotta hurt.

Chrispynutt said,
Bada OS is more popular than WP7 that's got to sting.

Actually maybe I should check out Bada, being that it's the only one that grew it's percentage share other than Android.

Microsoft needs to integrate Bing with Bada, so you get BADA BING.

Windows Phone can't be declining, simply because it didn't even have marketshare in Q3 2010, it came out in Q4 2010 THat's all Windows Mobile marketshare, which obviously doesn't directly translate into Windows Phone marketshare. Even though it gets said every time these numbers comes out, the articles still don't directly point that out.

No surprise to see Androids high numbers, considering how many cheap end devices have Android on it.

~Johnny said,
Windows Phone can't be declining, simply because it didn't even have marketshare in Q3 2010, it came out in Q4 2010 THat's all Windows Mobile marketshare, which obviously doesn't directly translate into Windows Phone marketshare. Even though it gets said every time these numbers comes out, the articles still don't directly point that out.

No surprise to see Androids high numbers, considering how many cheap end devices have Android on it.

You are absolutely right about Windows Mobile being combined with that. So If I am understanding you correctly, people prefer cheap Android devices over Windows Phone? Kinda sad for Microsoft.

UndergroundWire said,

You are absolutely right about Windows Mobile being combined with that. So If I am understanding you correctly, people prefer cheap Android devices over Windows Phone? Kinda sad for Microsoft.

Sad? Really, in what insane world do the majority of consumers NOT jump at cheap / free things? Its more obvious than sad. There's other reasons, but that's the major reason Andriod is over iOS and Windows Phone. I wouldn't be surprised to see iOS totally dominating the high end / expensive phone marketshare.

A lot of these cheaper Android devices are free on contracts, even £15 a month contracts over in the UK, compared to having to pay or take up £40 a month contracts for Windows Phone 7 & high end Android phones.

~Johnny said,

Sad? Really, in what insane world do the majority of consumers NOT jump at cheap / free things? Its more obvious than sad.

Sad because a company like Microsoft couldn't figure that out. With all there resources, they couldn't figure that out. Is Microsoft not in the business to make a profit? EXTREMELY SAD!

UndergroundWire said,

Sad because a company like Microsoft couldn't figure that out. With all there resources, they couldn't figure that out. Is Microsoft not in the business to make a profit? EXTREMELY SAD!

Everybody knows people like cheap things. Microsoft knew that, and they've always said Windows Phone is going to be a slow race (though granted they didn't quite think this slow). However, they went out to create a great product, like Apple does with iOS, and not compromise their vision to fit onto cheap devices. It's not the market they were going for on Windows Phone launch. They were aiming for hte market of smartphone owners who were ready to pay a lot for a very well crafted product, not the people who have no idea what 3G is.

~Johnny said,

Everybody knows people like cheap things. Microsoft knew that, and they've always said Windows Phone is going to be a slow race (though granted they didn't quite think this slow). However, they went out to create a great product, like Apple does with iOS, and not compromise their vision to fit onto cheap devices. It's not the market they were going for on Windows Phone launch. They were aiming for hte market of smartphone owners who were ready to pay a lot for a very well crafted product, not the people who have no idea what 3G is.

The thing is Verizon is selling those high-end android lte phones. People are obviously spending the cash on these phones. No one wants to spend it on a single-core, 3G phone when they can spend it on a 4G LTE dual-core phone.

~Johnny said,

Sad? Really, in what insane world do the majority of consumers NOT jump at cheap / free things? Its more obvious than sad.

I just went to Amazon Wireless and pick AT&T and found three Windows Phones that cost $0.01 each.

RangerLG said,

I just went to Amazon Wireless and pick AT&T and found three Windows Phones that cost $0.01 each.

And yet their price plans still cost more per month than cheaper Android phones. It's just subsidising the cost into the monthly payments.

UndergroundWire said,

The thing is Verizon is selling those high-end android lte phones. People are obviously spending the cash on these phones. No one wants to spend it on a single-core, 3G phone when they can spend it on a 4G LTE dual-core phone.

Exactly I was checking out the WP7 phones at the Microsoft Store, and according to the people around here they are the greatest thing ever. But what I saw was a 3G, 5MP, 1Ghz single core phone, with 512MB of RAM and it didn't even have a front facing camera, they wanted $99 with 2 years for it. They are starting to think like RIM that people wont notice that the hardware is crap, and cover it up with a pretty interface. I liked the phone for what it was, it just was so underwhelming for 2011.

UndergroundWire said,
Wow, Microsoft at 1.5%. LOL I guess it just Microsoft employes and fanboys that make up the 1.5%.

1.5% consist of 1.4% Windows Mobile and 0.1% WP7 :-)

UndergroundWire said,
Wow, Microsoft at 1.5%. LOL I guess it just Microsoft employes and fanboys that make up the 1.5%.

WOW! Linux still has less than 1% market share. LOL! I guess only clueless people make up that 0.9%.

england_fanboy said,

WOW! Linux still has less than 1% market share. LOL! I guess only clueless people make up that 0.9%.

I never used Linux as a desktop operating system. Just Windows. But thanks for that unnecessary statistic. We are talking about Mobile Phones not desktop operating systems. PAY ATTENTION!

UndergroundWire said,

I never used Linux as a desktop operating system. Just Windows. But thanks for that unnecessary statistic. We are talking about Mobile Phones not desktop operating systems. PAY ATTENTION!


I don't get how people could be using Linux on their phones though? o.O

well its how they make windows phone look bad... I was surprised that Samsung don't talk about windows phone on their facebook page... the s2 nexus and note is the only thing you will find there and no focus s w or flash Omnia etc.... and they say they will push wp7 in terms of marketing... go to nokia facebook page and compare with Samsung and see how Samsung looks after than. am getting nokia.

and yet the media is STILL obsessed with apple/iphone and yet Google's Android dwarfs iphone OS's marketshare. The media has NO excuse now for referring to apple products.

Also this is great news, Samsung's (and to a lesser extent HTC) continued innovation has been the factor in the impressive marketshare results.

sam232 said,
and yet the media is STILL obsessed with apple/iphone and yet Google's Android dwarfs iphone OS's marketshare. The media has NO excuse now for referring to apple products.

Also this is great news, Samsung's (and to a lesser extent HTC) continued innovation has been the factor in the impressive marketshare results.

The media also write more about Ferraris than the latest Kia, what's your point?

Martin5000 said,

The media also write more about Ferraris than the latest Kia, what's your point?


Comparing iOS to Android isn't like comparing Ferrari to Kia.

Coi said,

Comparing iOS to Android isn't like comparing Ferrari to Kia.

Yeah. With the premium hardware that is found in Android devices that are not found in the apple devices that is a fail !!

Seems like apple fanboyism blocks your brain functions so much that you make dumb statements. No wonder people are misinformed when they buy apple products.

Personally, I can't stand the noisy, physical keys on Blackberrys, but here's hoping that iOS, Android, WP and BBOS all remain strong. Competition will benefit us, the consumers, after all.

Its amazing how people like cheap things. America sells a crap ton of Mc Donalds, doesn't mean its a GOOD PRODUCT. I'll stick to my Kobe Beef iOS devices that actually work, a heck of a lot more pricier than droid devices but they actually work. Woke up 2 days ago and found my Optimus S had turned itself off. Stock OS, no apps loaded but PvZ. Yeah Droid is a god damn marvel alright..... Meanwhile my iOS devices are all running like well oiled machines.

The bottom line here is that Droid devices are so subsidized just to get them out the door as cheap as possible. Its no wonder there is an *explosion* of android devices. It has nothing to do with how well they actually perform.

zeroomegazx said,
Its amazing how people like cheap things. America sells a crap ton of Mc Donalds, doesn't mean its a GOOD PRODUCT. I'll stick to my Kobe Beef iOS devices that actually work, a heck of a lot more pricier than droid devices but they actually work. Woke up 2 days ago and found my Optimus S had turned itself off. Stock OS, no apps loaded but PvZ. Yeah Droid is a god damn marvel alright..... Meanwhile my iOS devices are all running like well oiled machines.

The bottom line here is that Droid devices are so subsidized just to get them out the door as cheap as possible. Its no wonder there is an *explosion* of android devices. It has nothing to do with how well they actually perform.

Premium Android devices have spearheaded the explosive Android growth. Not cheap devices as you have said.

zeroomegazx said,
Its amazing how people like cheap things. America sells a crap ton of Mc Donalds, doesn't mean its a GOOD PRODUCT. I'll stick to my Kobe Beef iOS devices that actually work, a heck of a lot more pricier than droid devices but they actually work. Woke up 2 days ago and found my Optimus S had turned itself off. Stock OS, no apps loaded but PvZ. Yeah Droid is a god damn marvel alright..... Meanwhile my iOS devices are all running like well oiled machines.

The bottom line here is that Droid devices are so subsidized just to get them out the door as cheap as possible. Its no wonder there is an *explosion* of android devices. It has nothing to do with how well they actually perform.


seems like someone is butt hurt...
Samsung galaxy s2 sold 10 million but this is back in September...
its not the cheap device that makes most of these no....

zeroomegazx said,
Its amazing how people like cheap things. America sells a crap ton of Mc Donalds, doesn't mean its a GOOD PRODUCT. I'll stick to my Kobe Beef iOS devices that actually work, a heck of a lot more pricier than droid devices but they actually work. Woke up 2 days ago and found my Optimus S had turned itself off. Stock OS, no apps loaded but PvZ. Yeah Droid is a god damn marvel alright..... Meanwhile my iOS devices are all running like well oiled machines.

The bottom line here is that Droid devices are so subsidized just to get them out the door as cheap as possible. Its no wonder there is an *explosion* of android devices. It has nothing to do with how well they actually perform.

My shiny new Android phone wasn't cheaper than an iPhone and matches Apple products for quality, and I mean that in every way - hardware, software, packaging.

How are Android devices being subsidised then? Where would the money be made from that? As far as I can see the cheaper ones just have lower hardware specs.

zeroomegazx said,
Its amazing how people like cheap things. America sells a crap ton of Mc Donalds, doesn't mean its a GOOD PRODUCT. I'll stick to my Kobe Beef iOS devices that actually work, a heck of a lot more pricier than droid devices but they actually work. Woke up 2 days ago and found my Optimus S had turned itself off. Stock OS, no apps loaded but PvZ. Yeah Droid is a god damn marvel alright..... Meanwhile my iOS devices are all running like well oiled machines.

The bottom line here is that Droid devices are so subsidized just to get them out the door as cheap as possible. Its no wonder there is an *explosion* of android devices. It has nothing to do with how well they actually perform.

Android is for the more "inclined" computer people. I am sure your phone just "turned" itself off. A good carpenter never blames his tools. If its too advanced for you and you enjoy spoon feeding, iOS is for you.

SlapHappy said,

A good carpenter never blames his tools. If its too advanced for you and you enjoy spoon feeding, iOS is for you.

Right, because its completely impossible that android could have any problems with it. I don't like apple stuff, but I'd have an iphone over android any day.

Martin5000 said,

Right, because its completely impossible that android could have any problems with it. I don't like apple stuff, but I'd have an iphone over android any day.

Here is a spoon, feeding will commence in 3....2....1......

sam232 said,

Premium Android devices have spearheaded the explosive Android growth. Not cheap devices as you have said.

Premium Android devices are about 10% of the 500 various cheap phones running Android.

zeroomegazx said,
Its amazing how people like cheap things. America sells a crap ton of Mc Donalds, doesn't mean its a GOOD PRODUCT. I'll stick to my Kobe Beef iOS devices that actually work, a heck of a lot more pricier than droid devices but they actually work. Woke up 2 days ago and found my Optimus S had turned itself off. Stock OS, no apps loaded but PvZ. Yeah Droid is a god damn marvel alright..... Meanwhile my iOS devices are all running like well oiled machines.

The bottom line here is that Droid devices are so subsidized just to get them out the door as cheap as possible. Its no wonder there is an *explosion* of android devices. It has nothing to do with how well they actually perform.

Wow one phone turned itself off, that must mean the whole OS and every device is awful!

My 1st gen iPhone also turned itself off on more than one occasion, that must mean every iDevice is worthless!!!!

No...

Martin5000 said,

Right, because its completely impossible that android could have any problems with it. I don't like apple stuff, but I'd have an iphone over android any day.

I'd have an iPhone over Windows Phone any day. Thankfully I don't have to be held to that test because Android manufacturers come out with the best stuff.

Hollow.Droid said,

Source please.

Let's see. Verizon Wireless has

Droid Bionic (Premium)
Droid Charge (Premium)
Droid RAZR (Premium)
HTC Rezound (Premium)
LG Revolution (Premium)
HTC Thunderbolt (Premium)
Droid X2 (On Par)
Droid 3 (On Par)
Samsung Stratosphere (On Par)
HTC Rhyme (On Par)
Droid Incredible 2 (On Par)
Xperia Play (On Par)
Droid Pro (On Par)
Pantec Breakout (Cheap)
LG Enlighten (Cheap)
Casio Gzone (Cheap)

That's 10%? Wow he's foolish. That's just one carrier. Anybody care to do the math on more carriers? Anybody care to teach alex how to do percentage?

In case you wanted to know, that's 37% Premium devices; 43% devices on Par and 18% Cheap devices.

Also, check this out http://www.mobiledia.com/shop/best-sellers.html

SlapHappy said,

Android is for the more "inclined" computer people. I am sure your phone just "turned" itself off. A good carpenter never blames his tools. If its too advanced for you and you enjoy spoon feeding, iOS is for you.


more inclined computer people?? you're an idiot, I know many "technically inclined" users that love iOS--mainly for it's stability, lack of lag, and the entire ecosystm etc., ...which sadly CANNOT be said about crapdroid devices.

hal90001 said,

more inclined computer people?? you're an idiot, I know many "technically inclined" users that love iOS--mainly for it's stability, lack of lag, and the entire ecosystm etc., ...which sadly CANNOT be said about crapdroid devices.

As soon as you resort to personal attacks and name calling your point is moot., good job. My Galaxy S ii Skyrocket has zero lag, an impressive market with more apps than I know what to do with (how many fart apps do you really need) LTE (thats true 4G for you non computer inclined) oh and refunds, love the refunds.

hal90001 said,

more inclined computer people?? you're an idiot, I know many "technically inclined" users that love iOS--mainly for it's stability, lack of lag, and the entire ecosystm etc., ...which sadly CANNOT be said about crapdroid devices.

Both of you are wrong. I've seen all kinds of users use the Android. Sure I would love to say that the technically inclined choose an Android and hippies use the iPhone, but it simply isn't true. Also Android runs real smooth. I'm going to my fourth one and couldn't be happier.

zeroomegazx said,
Woke up 2 days ago and found my Optimus S had turned itself off. Stock OS, no apps loaded but PvZ.

COOL ANECDOTE, BRO

zeroomegazx said,
Its amazing how people like cheap things. America sells a crap ton of Mc Donalds, doesn't mean its a GOOD PRODUCT. I'll stick to my Kobe Beef iOS devices that actually work, a heck of a lot more pricier than droid devices but they actually work. Woke up 2 days ago and found my Optimus S had turned itself off. Stock OS, no apps loaded but PvZ. Yeah Droid is a god damn marvel alright..... Meanwhile my iOS devices are all running like well oiled machines.

The bottom line here is that Droid devices are so subsidized just to get them out the door as cheap as possible. Its no wonder there is an *explosion* of android devices. It has nothing to do with how well they actually perform.

Yea, nice...what you get for getting an LG Android...but hey, I bet you did your research. And you obviously have no clue about Androids or why people buy them . Nothing to do with they being cheap.

Everything else you said I can say the same thing about Apple...or your well oiled machines....and MS, BB...whatever else. And I am guessing your Android experience is limited to the Optimus as well. You are comparing all of Android to a 1yr+ old phone that was a low end model.

SlapHappy said,

As soon as you resort to personal attacks and name calling your point is moot., good job. My Galaxy S ii Skyrocket has zero lag, an impressive market with more apps than I know what to do with (how many fart apps do you really need) LTE (thats true 4G for you non computer inclined) oh and refunds, love the refunds.

this time politely, how many virus-ridden app store cheap rip-off apps do you really need?? If you're going to say something this ridiculous at least make sure that you've actually say something that is meaningful instead of stupid generalizations you've read about coming from ignorant users.

techbeck said,

Yea, nice...what you get for getting an LG Android...but hey, I bet you did your research. And you obviously have no clue about Androids or why people buy them . Nothing to do with they being cheap.

Everything else you said I can say the same thing about Apple...or your well oiled machines....and MS, BB...whatever else. And I am guessing your Android experience is limited to the Optimus as well. You are comparing all of Android to a 1yr+ old phone that was a low end model.

Actually no...
I've owned/used the original Droid and a Droid X. Both with Stock and modified firmware. All 3 Android based handset I've owned have been the same. They are all very slow responsive and a complete mess interface wise. I have tried to play with them but ya know what? Its a god damn phone I shouldn't have to screw with it MORE than my Windows PC's to get it to run PROPERLY. My iOS devices and the Windows Phones I've used are all super responsive OUT OF THE BOX.

I get why people, and by people I mean us geeks, want Android devices but the OS is not there yet and the market fragmentation is making it worse. Android needs to pull itself together. When I can do MORE on my LOCKED OUT iOS devices BETTER and FASTER than on any of the droid devices I've used it says something.

Also my 2 year old iPod Touch 3G is still getting updates but the droid X never got past 2.3.

zeroomegazx said,

I get why people, and by people I mean us geeks, want Android devices but the OS is not there yet and the market fragmentation is making it worse. Android needs to pull itself together. When I can do MORE on my LOCKED OUT iOS devices BETTER and FASTER than on any of the droid devices I've used it says something.

Also my 2 year old iPod Touch 3G is still getting updates but the droid X never got past 2.3.

Yea, Android 2.3 is Gingerbread and the last OS released to the phones by Android. Next OS will be ICS 4.0. So 2.3 is all the Droid X could of gotten at this time and is the reason why it was never upgraded further.

And I will challenge you any day on the things Android can do that OSX cannot. It OSX may do more of what YOU need, but as far as what each device can do...Android takes that.

techbeck said,

Yea, Android 2.3 is Gingerbread and the last OS released to the phones by Android. Next OS will be ICS 4.0. So 2.3 is all the Droid X could of gotten at this time and is the reason why it was never upgraded further.

And I will challenge you any day on the things Android can do that OSX cannot. It OSX may do more of what YOU need, but as far as what each device can do...Android takes that.

OK Here is your challenge, beyond my Network Admin tasks I perform with my iPads all day, I also GAME on the things constantly. lets see your Droid play the new Jurrasic park Game or ANY recent games... Games arent really that important in the grand scheme of things but it shows that Devs prefer to code for a standardized platform much like the current PC vs Console war we have going on now. This can cover GAME and APPLICATIONS, easier to code for a standardized hardware/software environment.

As for 2.3 Gingerbread, the fact that google went ahead and made android 3.0 and not allowed it on phones NOR did they choose to update 2.3 with any new features for OVER A YEAR makes me feel that they arent committed to the user experience and only committed to selling handsets. How about you give me an example of an actual TASK that a droid can do that an iOS device cant?

Google and the phones it licenses too seem to only be concerned with selling handsets and not supporting them, whereas both MS and Apple see to want to actually do both and lean towards supporting the handsets/devices after they are sold.

Again I throw back the point that a POWERFUL DROID X will not get the ICS update and why? because companies don't want to invest time into pasting their customizations into it for older phones and would just have you rather buy a new one. If ICS is really that different that it NEEDS a dual core processor and at least 1GB of ram then something is very wrong with google's outlook for the OS itself.

zeroomegazx said,

OK Here is your challenge, beyond my Network Admin tasks I perform with my iPads all day, I also GAME on the things constantly. lets see your Droid play the new Jurrasic park Game or ANY recent games.

Because until Android gets their OS figured out, a lot of DEVs don't like writing for Android beause of the diff OS. Android has the same hardware, and in some cases better hardware, and is cabable of running the same apps.


As for 2.3 Gingerbread, the fact that google went ahead and made android 3.0 and not allowed it on phones NOR did they choose to update 2.3 with any new features for OVER A YEAR makes me feel that they arent committed to the user experience and only committed to selling handsets. How about you give me an example of an actual TASK that a droid can do that an iOS device cant?

Again, further proof you don't know much about Androud. Honeycomb...aka 3.0...was never designed for a phone nor was it ever said phone were going to get 3.0. Honeycomb is a tablet OS and was designed as such. They have been hard at work with ICS to come out with an OS for hte phone and tablet. Why extra features and tweaks were not added later and instead only major issues addressed. Tho, there were still more options than Apple.


Google and the phones it licenses too seem to only be concerned with selling handsets and not supporting them, whereas both MS and Apple see to want to actually do both and lean towards supporting the handsets/devices after they are sold.

So OS updates, working with carriers and phone manufacturers with problems, sticking up for companies in court battles, buying patents to help with court battles, working on ICS and addressing user concerns. Yea, seems like Google doesnt support jack.


Again I throw back the point that a POWERFUL DROID X will not get the ICS update and why? because companies don't want to invest time into pasting their customizations into it for older phones and would just have you rather buy a new one. If ICS is really that different that it NEEDS a dual core processor and at least 1GB of ram then something is very wrong with google's outlook for the OS itself.

Unless I am mistaken, it is still undecided that Droid X will be getting the ICs update or not. I know that all GB devices will be getting ICS (as it was stated)and an official GB update was released for the X so I dont see why it wouldnt. And Android is not hte only one who doesnt support older phones. Apple has done it (siri) and the new OS will not run on all Apple phones either. And with the amount people upgrade phones these days, the chances of them getting the new update with their new phone is high. Why spend a ton of money on old/discontinued products. It will all work it self out in time.

techbeck said,

Because until Android gets their OS figured out, a lot of DEVs don't like writing for Android beause of the diff OS. Android has the same hardware, and in some cases better hardware, and is cabable of running the same apps.

Again, further proof you don't know much about Androud. Honeycomb...aka 3.0...was never designed for a phone nor was it ever said phone were going to get 3.0. Honeycomb is a tablet OS and was designed as such. They have been hard at work with ICS to come out with an OS for hte phone and tablet. Why extra features and tweaks were not added later and instead only major issues addressed. Tho, there were still more options than Apple.

So OS updates, working with carriers and phone manufacturers with problems, sticking up for companies in court battles, buying patents to help with court battles, working on ICS and addressing user concerns. Yea, seems like Google doesnt support jack.

Unless I am mistaken, it is still undecided that Droid X will be getting the ICs update or not. I know that all GB devices will be getting ICS (as it was stated)and an official GB update was released for the X so I dont see why it wouldnt. And Android is not hte only one who doesnt support older phones. Apple has done it (siri) and the new OS will not run on all Apple phones either. And with the amount people upgrade phones these days, the chances of them getting the new update with their new phone is high. Why spend a ton of money on old/discontinued products. It will all work it self out in time.

I know that Honeycomb was never *really* designed for phones, but the question is WHY? During the Dev cycle it was announced that ICS would merge the 2 OS which is really what they should have done in the first place, more proof that google doesnt know what they really want to do with the OS.

Google has done limited work with carriers to TRY and get OS updates pushed out but has failed miserably. Look at phones 2 1/2 years old, MOST of them don't run the latest Android for mobile devices. Apple however and iOS 5 are supported all the way back to the 3GS and iPod Touch 3G. Now yes Siri isn't included but honestly i could give a hoot. I understand WHY they chose not to include it. Hell the 3GS/3G only have 256 MB of RAM! They have amazing performance for what they have under the hood especially when a DROID phone with DOUBLE the specs runs a heck of a lot worse. Siri may not have made it to even my iPad2 but I didn't buy the thing for Siri and like everything else I have seen Apple do in the past 3 years, I will wait until it is optimized for it to show up.

Don't get me wrong here I used to be an Apple hater until i got my first iPod touch 3G and saw how much better a dedicated MEDIA device worked better than my Droid. I still have little faith in Apple's products past the iOS lines but the iPads/iPod Touches/iPhones just work and work well, fast, WITHOUT the need to spend hours customizing it.

I get it, *droid heads* for the lack of a better term, love the ability to customize the hell out droid phones. The question is why? its a handheld PC that has crap battery life. I like my iOS devices for simple reasons, they work well and fast with no hassle, they last a long time on battery, and they are reliable. For 95% of the people buy and using droid phones they are a hassle. Loaded with bloatware, power hogs, and slow performance. The user experience for the average user is also much more clumsy than iOS. Think of it this way, you buy Skyrim for XBOX360/PS3 put the Disc in and play it, youre done. For PC you buy the game, tweak the hell out of your settings for an hour or more and then get to play. Now for the average user what makes more sense? Of course i bought skyrim for PC and tweaked the heck out of it but for a MOBILE PHONE that is really only designed to make calls and check email and do small ARM processor based functions do you really NEED to tweak the hell out of it like a linux/windows pc or do you want it to be reliable and run without any rooting/rom flashing/etc? That is what 95% of people who buy phones want.

The extremely vocal droid nuts and iOS nuts are the extreme minority of power users. We both have to get our heads out of our asses and realize this. We can argue among ourselves all we want but you need to understand that most people buy android phones because they are cheaper than the iPhone not for any other reason because they are clueless about any of the tech specs or abilities of the phones. That is why the market share for android is so high right now among other things (commission for selling droids, etc so that reps push them before anything else).

One thing I dislike about these measures is that they lump Windows Phone 7 and the older Windows Mobile OSes together, I would like to see them broken apart (not into their sub versions, just WP7 and WM separated)

The reason is because WM's market share has been in decline for quite some time, and lumping WP7 in with it can make it look like WP7 is not growing simply because WM is dying faster than WP is growing

Sraf said,
One thing I dislike about these measures is that they lump Windows Phone 7 and the older Windows Mobile OSes together, I would like to see them broken apart (not into their sub versions, just WP7 and WM separated)

The reason is because WM's market share has been in decline for quite some time, and lumping WP7 in with it can make it look like WP7 is not growing simply because WM is dying faster than WP is growing


your logic is flawed... if WM is not included the share would decline further....
100 WP sold + 2 WM sold=102 if you ignore that 2 WM then
100 WP sold = 100
the share would further decline.... do the math...

He's not suggesting WP7 would gain more sales, he's saying it would receive a more realistic representation for % changes. WM7 is essentially a different OS, and might be increasing share, WM6 may be offsetting it.

Kirkburn said,
He's not suggesting WP7 would gain more sales, he's saying it would receive a more realistic representation for % changes. WM7 is essentially a different OS, and might be increasing share, WM6 may be offsetting it.
Yes, it would get more realistic Wp7 numbers but saying that removing WM would increase WP market share is not true and total foolish...
here is the math....

lets say(example):
WP(98) + WM(2) sold= 100 units sold
Other SmartPhone=900
so now market share of microsoft is 10% (100*100/(900+100))

now lets remove WM
WP(98) = 98 sold
Other SmartPhone=900
market share of microsoft - 98*100/(900+98) = 9.82%
its a shame I have to teach u basic math.


still1 said,

your logic is flawed... if WM is not included the share would decline further....
100 WP sold + 2 WM sold=102 if you ignore that 2 WM then
100 WP sold = 100
the share would further decline.... do the math...

Nope, it's definetly your logic that is flawed - Windows Phone had NO marketshare in Q3 2010. 0%. Nada. It wasn't even on sale yet. That was entirely Windows Mobile's marketshare. Hence, separating out Windows Mobile from Windows Phone in the Q3 2011 would show an INCREASE in marketshare for WP7 (because it's gone up from zero to something) and a DECREASE for Windows Mobile.

Going from 0% to something is most definitely an increase

Kirkburn said,
He's not suggesting WP7 would gain more sales, he's saying it would receive a more realistic representation for % changes. WM7 is essentially a different OS, and might be increasing share, WM6 may be offsetting it.

Indeed, and this is why I thought it would be helpful to include a mention of the last quarter Gartner figures in the article. It is a bit skewed to compare figures from a year ago, when WP7 wasn't actually on sale for most of Q3 2010.

But the quarter-vs-quarter figures are perhaps more relevant and indicative of actual WP7 sales, and when you compare Q2 vs Q3 this year, the sales numbers are almost identical (sales in Q3 were a few thousand lower than Q2). If we accept that Windows Mobile 6.x sales are now minimal, the figures indicate that WP7 sales have remained pretty stagnant this year; at best WP7 sales have increased at the same rate that Windows Mobile 6.x sales have declined.

~Johnny said,

Nope, it's definetly your logic that is flawed - Windows Phone had NO marketshare in Q3 2010. 0%. Nada. It wasn't even on sale yet. That was entirely Windows Mobile's marketshare. Hence, separating out Windows Mobile from Windows Phone in the Q3 2011 would show an INCREASE in marketshare for WP7 (because it's gone up from zero to something) and a DECREASE for Windows Mobile.

Going from 0% to something is most definitely an increase


we are not comparing last years to this year.... Op wants WM removed from this years number so that WP share will go up with what it is now.....
your explanation is a different comparison..... and comparing no sale to few sale???? really?? :-) its obvious its gonna increase even if WP sold only 1 phone in a Q

still1 said,

we are not comparing last years to this year.... Op wants WM removed from this years number so that WP share will go up with what it is now.....
your explanation is a different comparison..... and comparing no sale to few sale???? really?? :-) its obvious its gonna increase even if WP sold only 1 phone in a Q

No, that is not what he's saying. He is saying that these measures, of comparing how marketshare's are differing, are ineffective because it looks like Windows Phone isn't GROWING. The only possible way you can tell if it's growing or not is to compare it to older figures - and afterall that is what this article does. Separating out Windows Mobile and Windows Phone like he says will simply show Windows Phone is increasing, and WIndows Mobile is decreasing

still1 said,

we are not comparing last years to this year.... Op wants WM removed from this years number so that WP share will go up with what it is now.....
your explanation is a different comparison..... and comparing no sale to few sale???? really?? :-) its obvious its gonna increase even if WP sold only 1 phone in a Q

No, I want them SEPARATED so that we can see what the growth rate of WP is, which we can't right now as ANY growth incurred is being offset by the decline of WM

~Johnny said,

No, that is not what he's saying. He is saying that these measures, of comparing how marketshare's are differing, are ineffective because it looks like Windows Phone isn't GROWING. The only possible way you can tell if it's growing or not is to compare it to older figures - and afterall that is what this article does. Separating out Windows Mobile and Windows Phone like he says will simply show Windows Phone is increasing, and WIndows Mobile is decreasing


then I am mistaken...... if Op didn't think that way(which is still not clear) then you are mistaken.... :-) :-) How about we go peace :-)

still1 said,
Yes, it would get more realistic Wp7 numbers but saying that removing WM would increase WP market share is not true and total foolish...
here is the math....

lets say(example):
WP(98) + WM(2) sold= 100 units sold
Other SmartPhone=900
so now market share of microsoft is 10% (100*100/(900+100))

now lets remove WM
WP(98) = 98 sold
Other SmartPhone=900
market share of microsoft - 98*100/(900+98) = 9.82%
its a shame I have to teach u basic math.


He's talking about the increase in GROWTH, not the increase in MARKET SHARE.

Growth OF WP7 last quarter vs Growth OF WP7 this quarter.

Or didn't you quite catch that up there on your high horse? It's a shame I had to teach you statistic AND math