Apple brings back older Final Cut Studio after backlash

Final Cut Pro X, Apple's high-end film editing software, has been off to a shaky start. A redesign of something as complex as Final Cut Pro was never going to be easy, but a large group of movie pros simply don't think the new version fits the bill. Although Apple promises that most people's criticisms will be fixed in future updates, critics argued that discontinuing the previous (and far more capable) version didn't help.

Today, Macrumors has confirmed that Apple has begun restocking the older Final Cut Studio. The suite includes a whole host of tools alongside Final Cut Pro 7, such as Motion 4, Soundtrack Pro 3, DVD Studio Pro 4, Color 1.5 and Compressor 3.5. The package is only available by phoning 800-MY-APPLE, and will set you back $999 (or $899 with education discount). Final Cut Studio won't be available in the Mac App Store, and Final Cut Pro X will continue to only be available in the Mac App Store.

Being able to buy Final Cut Pro 7 again will likely appease users left in the dark when Final Cut Pro X was released. While a shuffle around of buttons and a few changed features was always going to take some getting used to, Final Cut Pro X doesn't even let users import older projects. Work carried out in older versions has to be finished there, although Apple has promised a fix for this is coming in the future. Other crucial features not found in the rewrite are multicam support and SDI-out. FCPX was released in June, and so far hasn't been updated.

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Final Cut Pro X is the best video editing software has made ​​to date. It is far simpler and more user friendly. It makes the work faster and easier and manageable. I think all critics are afraid and angry that their knowledge about the old completely unpredictable software has been renewed. They are also afraid that normal users can quickly take over their work and thus make them vulnerable.
Adobe need to step up and take the same easy step, so windows users can have the same ease of use. The adobe video software is terrible and complicated and useless.

Well I've been a professional editor for several years now and exclusively use Adobe products. Why? Apple is too pricey and constrictive for me. More and more are moving to Adobe because they've improved so much the last couple of years and also have trial versions of everything. Plug-ins and 3D support are also very important.

Final Cut and CS both have their strengths and weaknesses. The whole industry charges a fortune for products because they know people will pay it and with that guarantee comes compromise and shortcuts that other sectors wouldn't get away with.

Adobe recently turned out CS5 that only supported 64bit Plugins. This was a HUGE deal to everyone outside the large production houses because it meant you lost thousands of dollars of plugins which for many gave you the ability to stand out and compete with the big boys. No apology from Adobe so most of us continue with CS4 until we can afford to upgrade everything to CS5 which in the end will be better.

It's a strange market for sure, and you have to careful who you alienate with product "updates"

Hahaiah said,
Well I've been a professional editor for several years now and exclusively use Adobe products. Why? Apple is too pricey and constrictive for me. More and more are moving to Adobe because they've improved so much the last couple of years and also have trial versions of everything. Plug-ins and 3D support are also very important.

Final Cut and CS both have their strengths and weaknesses. The whole industry charges a fortune for products because they know people will pay it and with that guarantee comes compromise and shortcuts that other sectors wouldn't get away with.

Adobe recently turned out CS5 that only supported 64bit Plugins. This was a HUGE deal to everyone outside the large production houses because it meant you lost thousands of dollars of plugins which for many gave you the ability to stand out and compete with the big boys. No apology from Adobe so most of us continue with CS4 until we can afford to upgrade everything to CS5 which in the end will be better.

It's a strange market for sure, and you have to careful who you alienate with product "updates"

Apple's editing software has always been cheaper than Adobe's Production Premium package.. so unless you were talking about buying the hardware, I'm not sure what else would be considered "too pricey".

Too little too late for me. I already switched to Adobe, and with it I got a new PC. I wonder how many people like me Apple saw leave the iEcosystem?

greenwizard88 said,
Too little too late for me. I already switched to Adobe, and with it I got a new PC. I wonder how many people like me Apple saw leave the iEcosystem?

I did the same thing, but more because of their professional customer abandonment in general.

Ahha! maybe they planned this all along. Create demand under pending doom of a lesser version... so grab the slightly older but way better solution

Interesting tactic if that is what it is... wow...

Just wait until they make 1 or 2 updates to Final Cut Pro X, and the old version will fade away quickly.

They said they would provide updates more quickly than before. I was thinking along the lines of 6 months per update, but we will see what this means.

medium_pimpin said,

XP?


Yea, few remember it but when it first came out it was pretty hated too...
XP kind of like Vista was a mess before SP1.

The reason XP became so loved is that people had so much time to get used to it

Zeet said,
Why would movie pros use Final Cut Pro anyway?

Because it's amazingly excellent. That is, the versions before "X" are amazingly excellent. Final Cut Pro X is just a prosumer-level app, the versions before it are geared towards professionals.

McKay said,

I gave up on Final Cut Studios in College after it tended to crash and burn 90% of the time when asked to render anything.


And yet professional video editors all over the world swear by it. Hmmm, let's see, what is the difference here. That would be YOU.

roadwarrior said,

And yet professional video editors all over the world swear by it. Hmmm, let's see, what is the difference here. That would be YOU.

Did you know that the words "best" and "bad" don't contradict each other? I have encountered lot's of professional programs that were plain awful. They still were the best for the job since better alternatives didn't exist.

Professional program is still professional even if it crashes every hour. It can easily be the best program for the professional tasks. It would still be bad in my book.

Avid Studio for PC, is excellent. Big step over Pinnacle. $160. See my latest creation a shameless plug for sure... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fc1CcVpSkg0

I think all this popularity for Apple is teaching them all about viruses, AND backwards compatability. Something us PC guys were always faced with when trying to "innovate" for the masses.

jimmyfal said,
Avid Studio for PC, is excellent. Big step over Pinnacle. $160. See my latest creation a shameless plug for sure... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fc1CcVpSkg0

I think all this popularity for Apple is teaching them all about viruses, AND backwards compatability. Something us PC guys were always faced with when trying to "innovate" for the masses.

Not sure why you paid $160 for something you could've made in Windows Live Movie Maker

jimmyfal said,
Something us PC guys were always faced with when trying to "innovate" for the masses.

And that's why you've never innovated anything.

daPhoenix said,

And that's why you've never innovated anything.

Innovate (v): Make changes in something established, esp. by introducing new methods, ideas, or products.

PC developers innovate plenty, they just get the injustice of being a much smaller fish in a much bigger ponds, so it isn't as publicised.

I think "Innovate" is becoming the new word the internet needs to learn the meaning of.

Majesticmerc said,
Wow. I knew people didn't like it, but was it really that bad? I'm genuinely asking, I don't edit videos, so I wouldn't know.

Well it depends. The answer is yes an know. If you have never use Final Cut Pro and you bought this for the first time as an beginner, it would likely be just right.

But if you are a Pro using FCP and Apple sold you this and a replacement for the original and it can't even do the top end things the older original version does then, YES; it was totally bad.

If Apple would allow application tirals so you can try before you buy, then it wouldn't be a problem. But they don't. I guess they assume Apple fans are so stupid they will just buy anything and be happy and they got a rude awakening.

I rather have Adobe Premiere or Adobe Audition vs FCPX

Majesticmerc said,
Wow. I knew people didn't like it, but was it really that bad? I'm genuinely asking, I don't edit videos, so I wouldn't know.

Yes, it is truly awful.

Final Cut Pro 7 was on the edge of becoming a viable alternative to Avid in professional circles. One more REAL update and it could have been there.

Final Cut X is a toy, basically a new rev of iMovie - only usable by amateurs and home consumers for very limited projects.

Apple obviously abandoned the professional market (yes, AGAIN!) and so just allowing people to buy 7 helps, but until they announce they are upgrading it like they were supposed to in the first place, they are killing off the only professional market still left open by Apple...until now.

There was no reason not to pursue both paths, iMovie for amateurs/home use and Final Cut for professionals, except that Apple wants to focus on volume consumer sales for hardware and software.

excalpius said,

Apple obviously abandoned the professional market (yes, AGAIN!) and so just allowing people to buy 7 helps, but until they announce they are upgrading it like they were supposed to in the first place, they are killing off the only professional market still left open by Apple...until now.

There was no reason not to pursue both paths, iMovie for amateurs/home use and Final Cut for professionals, except that Apple wants to focus on volume consumer sales for hardware and software.


Well, at least they still have Logic Studio. That's one hell of a program. If they break this too, I'll go to their hq and set the god damn place on fire.

only $899 with educational discount? gawd that makes adobe seem like a saint.....

CS5 Master suite costs $2,599 full, but at my local college the educational version only costs $850! You'd think they'd give more of an educational discount there.... and at least adobe they let you use educational prodcuts for commerical usage after you grauduate