Apple iMac and Mac Pro lines updated

This morning, Apple unveiled an upgrade of their workstation Mac Pro series. The focus of this iteration of the large and customizable machines is on the new quad-core and six-core Intel Xeon processors, according to the press release by Apple. Other improvements include upgrades to the available ATI graphics card options and the ability to install four 512GB SSD storage units. Fully configured, the new Mac Pro outperforms the previous top of the line model by 50%, says Philip Schiller, Apple’s senior VP of worldwide product marketing.

"With up to 12 cores, the new Mac Pro outperforms our previous top-of-the-line system by up to 50 percent, and with over a billion possible configurations, our customers can create exactly the system they want."

Here are some more detailed specs as provided by Apple:

The new quad-core Mac Pro, with a suggested retail price of US$2,499, includes: 

  • one 2.8 GHz Quad-Core Intel Xeon W3530 processor with 8MB of fully-shared L3 cache
  • 3GB of 1066 MHz DDR3 ECC SDRAM memory, expandable up to 16GB
  • ATI Radeon HD 5770 with 1GB of GDDR5 memory
  • two Mini DisplayPorts and one DVI (dual-link) port (adapters sold separately)
  • 1TB Serial ATA 3Gb/s hard drive running at 7200 rpm
  • 18x SuperDrive with double-layer support (DVD+/-R DL/DVD+/-RW/CD-RW)
  • four PCI Express 2.0 slots
  • five USB 2.0 ports and four FireWire 800 ports
  • AirPort Extreme 802.11n
  • Bluetooth 2.1+EDR
  • Apple Keyboard with numerical keypad and Magic Mouse


The new 8-core Mac Pro, with a suggested retail price of $3,499, includes:

  • two 2.4 GHz Quad-Core Intel Xeon E5620 processors with 12MB of fully-shared L3 cache per processor
  • 6GB of 1066 MHz DDR3 ECC SDRAM memory, expandable up to 32GB
  • ATI Radeon HD 5770 with 1GB of GDDR5 memory
  • two Mini DisplayPorts and one DVI (dual-link) port (adapters sold separately)
  • 1TB Serial ATA 3Gb/s hard drive running at 7200 rpm
  • 18x SuperDrive with double-layer support (DVD+/-R DL/DVD+/-RW/CD-RW)
  • four PCI Express 2.0 slots
  • five USB 2.0 ports and four FireWire 800 ports
  • AirPort Extreme 802.11n
  • Bluetooth 2.1+EDR
  • Apple Keyboard with numerical keypad and Magic Mouse
     

This machine is not for the light user. As always, configuring this beast to the fullest will run you well into the multiple thousands of dollars, and provides functionality and power that the average user wouldn’t be able to tap. According to MacDailyNews, “Apple's 12-core Mac Pro. For when you absolutely, positively have to render Toy Story 3 before lunch. In 3D.” The new Mac Pro will be available in August 2010.

In an upgrade more suited the base consumer market, the popular iMac line has also been updated. The processors have been upgraded to dual core Intel Core i3 and i5, and quad-core i5 and i7. There is now an option to include a 256GBSSD , and the graphics are powered by an ATI Radeon HD 5750. The display is now available in 27” widescreen, at 2560x1440 native resolution as well as LED backlighting.

Here are pricing and configuration options from Apple:

The new 21.5-inch 3.06 GHz Intel Core i3 iMac, for a suggested retail price of $1,199 (US), includes:

  • 21.5-inch 1920 x 1080 LED-backlit display;
  • 3.06 GHz Intel Core i3 processor with 4MB shared L3 cache;
  • 4GB 1333 MHz DDR3 SDRAM expandable to 16GB;
  • ATI Radeon HD 4670 discrete graphics with 256MB GDDR3 SDRAM;
  • 500GB Serial ATA hard drive running at 7200 rpm;
  • slot-load 8x SuperDrive® with double-layer support (DVD±R DL/DVD±RW/CD-RW);
  • Mini DisplayPort for audio and video output (adapters sold separately);
  • AirPort Extreme® 802.11n wireless networking & Bluetooth 2.1+EDR;
  • iSight® video camera;
  • Gigabit Ethernet;
  • four USB 2.0 ports;
  • one SDXC SD card slot;
  • one FireWire® 800 port;
  • built-in stereo speakers and microphone; and
  • Wireless Apple Keyboard, Magic Mouse.

 

The new 27-inch 3.2 GHz Intel Core i3 iMac, for a suggested retail price of $1,699 (US), includes:

  • 27-inch 2560 x 1440 LED-backlit display;
  • 3.20 GHz Intel Core i3 processor with 4MB shared L3 cache;
  • 4GB 1333 MHz DDR3 SDRAM expandable to 16GB;
  • ATI Radeon HD 5670 discrete graphics with 512MB GDDR3;
  • 1TB Serial ATA hard drive running at 7200 rpm;
  • slot-load 8x SuperDrive with double-layer support (DVD±R DL/DVD±RW/CD-RW);
  • Mini DisplayPort for audio and video input and output (adapters sold separately);
  • AirPort Extreme 802.11n wireless networking & Bluetooth 2.1+EDR;
  • iSight video camera;
  • Gigabit Ethernet;
  • four USB 2.0 ports;
  • one FireWire 800 port;
  • one SDXC SD card slot;
  • built-in stereo speakers and microphone; and
  • Wireless Apple Keyboard, Magic Mouse.
Report a problem with article
Previous Story

Bethesda Softworks' Available on Impulse

Next Story

Twitter adding Tweet Media feature

110 Comments

Commenting is disabled on this article.

IS THIS A JOKE!? HAHA!
My Dell 2950 server has WAY better specs than that mac pro (dual 3.0Ghz quad core xeons, 8GB RAM, RAID 6 array on DRAC 6) etc. and overall cost me £900, about a year ago.

Once again apple wins at biggest overpriced pile of ****.

n_K said,
IS THIS A JOKE!? HAHA!
My Dell 2950 server has WAY better specs than that mac pro (dual 3.0Ghz quad core xeons, 8GB RAM, RAID 6 array on DRAC 6) etc. and overall cost me £900, about a year ago.

Once again apple wins at biggest overpriced pile of ****.

F*cking animals.

TonyLock said,
Also, will Apple be releasing a new OS this year?
It's unlikely. They would've mentioned at WWDC. Releasing an OS in less than six months would annoy a lot of developers.

Boring: always the same repetition of childish arguments. Grow up!
Its just a case of personal preference. Like a Mac buy a Mac. Like a PC buy a PC.

Borix said,
Boring: always the same repetition of childish arguments. Grow up!
Its just a case of personal preference. Like a Mac buy a Mac. Like a PC buy a PC.

+1

I'm thinking of getting the iMac at $1,199.
Anyone know if this will be good to run Windows 7 on?

Also, does it have an HDMI output and can I upgrade the hard drive later?

Is the 3.20ghz i3 better than a refurbished 2.8ghz i5? I'm just wondering since there the same price and I'm about to buy an iMac.

cowlick said,
As do *all* computer manufacturers.

I agree. I am buying a laptop this week and 4gb DDR3 comes with the device. To get 6gb I have to fork out $100 USD

EDIT: Forgot to mention. HP computer.

Ugh. The usual guff from people moaning about how overpriced they are. If you take the Mac at component level alone, it seems expensive. Indeed I felt the same and gladly ditched my iMac to come back to "WinTel" ownership.

But you just can't beat the design and build quality that goes into the iMac and Mac Pro. Indeed I've got a 5 year old G5 PowerMac sitting next to my desk here and which is essentially the same case as the current Mac Pro. It's just supremely nice to work on - and it feels sturdy and well made. The outer casing comes off to remove some nice perspex ducting. The little recesses in the case that the ducting clip into have sensors so, if you remove the ducting, it spins up the fans to keep the system cool, etc. It's almost server level design (going on my background in HP ProLiant) but in a desktop.

Stunning. If I had the money to waste on a Mac Pro, I would do so in a heartbeat. But can't justify that sort of expenditure so will stick to my homebuilt Windows 7 PC

When going from a 640 GB HDD to a 1000 GB HDD adds $100 to the price, you know it's a rip-off when the same drive costs about $85 from my local computer store.

The Mac Pro has always been overpriced. The problem is there is no gamer class of Mac in between the consumer end Mac and the Workstation level Mac Pro (which competes with the likes of HP workstations). They go straight from using Laptop processors on the desktop to using Server processors on the desktop.

Right on the button. I've been moaning about this for AGES. They really need a Mac Pro Jr... something built like a Mac Pro but with more desktop grade components and a smaller enclosure. Would allow the users to upgrade RAM / GFX / HDD's but bring your own monitor / keyboard / mouse like the Mac Mini. I reckon it'd be awesome and would sell some good quantities if they priced it right.... which, being Apple, they wouldn't

smithy_dll said,
When going from a 640 GB HDD to a 1000 GB HDD adds $100 to the price, you know it's a rip-off when the same drive costs about $85 from my local computer store.

The Mac Pro has always been overpriced. The problem is there is no gamer class of Mac in between the consumer end Mac and the Workstation level Mac Pro (which competes with the likes of HP workstations). They go straight from using Laptop processors on the desktop to using Server processors on the desktop.

Phixion said,
How on earth is Windows "annoying"?

User error methinks...

Non configurable implementation of libraries throughout w7 is user error? most of my complainants are UI based. I always get the feeling MS just don't care or put much thought in to it.

Lamp0 said,

Non configurable implementation of libraries throughout w7 is user error? most of my complainants are UI based. I always get the feeling MS just don't care or put much thought in to it.


If you can't figure out how to configure the library's in in Windows 7 then yes that would be a user error!

Lamp0 said,

Non configurable implementation of libraries throughout w7 is user error? most of my complainants are UI based. I always get the feeling MS just don't care or put much thought in to it.


Please, the library argument again, its really easy to understand - or don't bother and just use them!

This is the present day version of people wanting to change the XP start menu for the windows 2000 style (which I always found to be retarded, more clicks, less options, fugly), all this kind of thinking does is make people more confused when the next version comes out with the feature more baked in - face it its a popular feature, its really useful and its not going anywhere because oif the last 2 facts

Have they increased the price? They start at £999 in the UK, I'm sure they were cheaper than that before they refreshed them.

bbfc_uk said,
Have they increased the price? They start at £999 in the UK, I'm sure they were cheaper than that before they refreshed them.

I don't think so?

Well they'll go up by default in Jan and this is probably the last refresh before next year.

treemonster said,

you can buy a dvi to hdmi adapter for $99 from the apple store. XD

That's not even an Apple product, so why are you bashing them for another company selling their product for a premium?

oh right, b/c u r jeanyus.

Macs are overpriced and a pc with w7 can basically do the same.
So why buy a Mac? I guess it all depends on how annoying you find windows.

My next PC will most certainly be an overpriced Mac... that's how annoying I find Windows.

Lamp0 said,
Macs are overpriced and a pc with w7 can basically do the same.
So why buy a Mac? I guess it all depends on how annoying you find windows.

My next PC will most certainly be an overpriced Mac... that's how annoying I find Windows.

then why not go Linux on a PC and save some money to boot

Athlonite said,

then why not go Linux on a PC and save some money to boot

Because people actually want to DO something with their computers...

excalpius said,

Because people actually want to DO something with their computers...

bahahaha!

But, no Linux is a solid option I think. But I use softwares like photoshop and such.

wtb news of new hp dell or emachines product refreshes as if it's even news regardless of brand.

i could build any of these systems with better and/or more sensible hardware for less that could do more better faster and more reliably, including the price of win 7. hell you can buy a better prebuilt from the major vendors with more sensible and better hardware for less.

for example why do any of these systems need 4(count em) need 4 pcie 2.0 slots. what is a mac user going to use sli/cf for? i mean last time i checked non gaming gpgpu applications were windows only anyway.

and what does a mac need dual CPUs for? osx doesn't even allow proper use of one quad core properly let alone two six cores from all accounts.

if you say video guess what, on a i7 920 @ stock speeds on win7 it takes 2 minutes to render a 3 minute 1080p .wmv file in sony vegas. do you really need to spend $500-$1500 more to cut that down to 1 minute per 3 minutes of HD video?

Ishanx said,
I wonder how Mac fanboys play games with the single button mouse.

They remind the Microsoft fanboys that you can either plug in a normal USB mouse and make use of all the buttons in OSX. Or that the Mighty Mouse which ships with the a new Mac natively works like a two button mouse..... even though it looks like a single button mouse. But of course you knew that before you came to set a little flamebait didn't you. Right..?

Ishanx said,
I wonder how Mac fanboys play games with the single button mouse.

Seriously? That's the (inaccurate) argument you're going to make?!

lame.

Ishanx said,
I wonder how Mac fanboys play games with the single button mouse.

Magical Buttons.

Magic lets them play those games. Magic.

It is a news when Apple update their line of hardware.
But Is not news when Dell, HP or other manufacturer do the same.

so, apparently it is true that Apple is bribing some bloggers.

Odd train of thought. Fact is that it's not unlikely for a new Apple product to make international news, you think Apple is bribing all of them? Please.

Actually, Apple doesn't have to bribe bloggers. What they do is spend a fortune on PR companies. Those PR companies handle to the tit for tat ad buys on channels and sites in exchange for articles, article placement, and de facto favorable coverage. The blogs feed off of that, of course.

That's how the world works, kids.

Magallanes said,
It is a news when Apple update their line of hardware.
But Is not news when Dell, HP or other manufacturer do the same.

so, apparently it is true that Apple is bribing some bloggers.

It's because it's last year's tech at this year's prices.

Mike Brown said,
Odd train of thought. Fact is that it's not unlikely for a new Apple product to make international news, you think Apple is bribing all of them? Please.

it's no more news than a news story on the monring program about geriatrics celeberating a 75th birthday is news.

Magallanes said,
It is a news when Apple update their line of hardware.
But Is not news when Dell, HP or other manufacturer do the same.

I completely agree with you there, it is absolutely stupid that every single move by Apple is instantly news EVERYWHERE but if it's any other PC maker, they sorta just fall into the background...

Mikeyx11 said,

I completely agree with you there, it is absolutely stupid that every single move by Apple is instantly news EVERYWHERE but if it's any other PC maker, they sorta just fall into the background...

It's because they're basically designer PC's, and much more popular with the every man on the street.

Lamp0 said,

It's because they're basically designer PC's, and much more popular with the every man on the street.

No, it's because Apple spends a fortune on PR and marketing (see above). This is the way the world really works, folks.

Lamp0 said,

It's because they're basically designer PC's, and much more popular with the every man on the street.

4% of market share says otherwise and where's the alienware/ibuypower/etc product refreshes news if that's true.

excalpius said,

No, it's because Apple spends a fortune on PR and marketing (see above). This is the way the world really works, folks.

what do you mean "NO", my point is basically the same as yours...

WAKE UP!

Lamp0 said,

what do you mean "NO", my point is basically the same as yours...

Um...only if you have a English reading comprehension problem... 8P

Magallanes said,
It is a news when Apple update their line of hardware.
But Is not news when Dell, HP or other manufacturer do the same.

so, apparently it is true that Apple is bribing some bloggers.

Because Neowin is also known as Neomac ....

Magallanes said,
It is a news when Apple update their line of hardware.
But Is not news when Dell, HP or other manufacturer do the same.

so, apparently it is true that Apple is bribing some bloggers.

I think its partly because Apple is its own technology, own brand, own OS, own hardware etc - it makes the brand stand out not to mention the PR.

Dell, HP, Alienware, (insert any other PC manufacturer here) all run windows, so you dilute the image a tad by the fact that the product has 2 brandings.

tsutton said,

Steve Jobs says it's old technology and they are focused on downloaded movies.

And yet he still uses USB 2.0. That's the weakest excuse ever.

Temperingpick said,

And yet he still uses USB 2.0. That's the weakest excuse ever.

Hey...... no Apple said they use the latest tech that the PC world doesn't even use yet..... *hugs USB 3.0 Card*

neufuse said,

Hey...... no Apple said they use the latest tech that the PC world doesn't even use yet..... *hugs USB 3.0 Card*

HP already has a laptop with USB 3 and many others are planning it. Apple will be behind.

techbeck said,

HP already has a laptop with USB 3 and many others are planning it. Apple will be behind.

Will be? Apple has always been behind.

tsutton said,

Steve Jobs says it's old technology and they are focused on downloaded movies.


Right, I will just upload these 25gb of uncompressed footage so I can get them to another person.
OH wait, clever idea! let's spend $70 in a 32gb flash drive instead of 2 bucks in a blank blu-ray disc!

Temperingpick said,
And yet he still uses USB 2.0. That's the weakest excuse ever.

How many USB3 devices are there on the market right now ?

PsykX said,

How many USB3 devices are there on the market right now ?

Lots for storage. You can find a lot of HDD enclosures with USB 3.0.

PsykX said,

How many USB3 devices are there on the market right now ?

So short-sighted, if I was to spend over a grand on an non customisable brand new peice of computing hardware, slated as having all the current generation technology I would dam well want at least 1 usb3 port! there are already a lot of hdd enclosures using the format not to mention flash drives, SSD drives, and there will soon be other peripherals to connect.

to be locked out from the start from a technology that is HERE TODAY is stupid, but so long as it looks the part ey

(Oh and no blue ray, fail Steve - but there's always iTunes to think about ey?)

The article copy talks about 6 core (12 thread) procs, but all the specs are old school 4 core (8 thread) procs. Is there a disconnect somewhere herein?

excalpius said,
The article copy talks about 6 core (12 thread) procs, but all the specs are old school 4 core (8 thread) procs. Is there a disconnect somewhere herein?

The store is selling the old generation because the new generation is not available until August. If you go to http://www.apple.com/macpro you can see their info on the 6-core Xeons they're going to use which means you get 24 virtual cores.

Do they come with a free bottle of lube?

But seriously, you would think they would of at least added USB 3.0 support. I guess thats another $1000+ next year

techbeck said,
Do they come with a free bottle of lube?

But seriously, you would think they would of at least added USB 3.0 support. I guess thats another $1000+ next year

I believe they come with no smoking stickers ^^

Nicholas P. said,

I believe they come with no smoking stickers ^^

Haha, forgot a bout Apple denying warranty if someone smokes around the system.

Brandon said,
You don't buy Macs to game on. Video creation

Nowadays... nah a PC will do fine. Another rumour that came up to the surface when PCs were considerably underpowered against risk cpus. Simply an overpriced PC with a different OS. Does not work well for me.

Of course I am no judging. The best is whatever works better for someone. It's something personal.

Brandon said,
You don't buy Macs to game on. Video creation

You could get a much cheaper comp with better components with w7 on it.

Brandon said,
You don't buy Macs to game on. Video creation

And many dont but Macs for video creation either. Macs used to be the top for vid/imaging. Now they are pretty much the same.

Twisp said,

You could get a much cheaper comp with better components with w7 on it.

yea and spend ages trying get rid of libraries without braking your system, hours of fun.


Lamp0 said,

yea and spend ages trying get rid of libraries without braking your system, hours of fun.

Are libraries too complicated for you? Just ignore them. Move you documents to a Documents folder and ignore the libraries concept if that's the case.

excalpius said,

Are libraries too complicated for you? Just ignore them. Move you documents to a Documents folder and ignore the libraries concept if that's the case.

no they aren't complicated for me, but they are almost certainly going to complicate things for some people I know, let alone my granny. The depth at which they are integrated is going cause alot of people to pull their hair out.

And have you tried ignoring libraries?

They permanently sit in the navigation pane in explorer. All the explorer links on the start menu [music, pictures, etc...] go to the libraries. Pin exporer to the taskbar, goes to libraries. And windows applications also default to the libraries as a save location.

I just can't understand why Microsoft couldn't implement a few little options. I imagine interface design would be the easiest part of building an OS, giving options for at least some of these things seems pretty basic.

Brandon said,
You don't buy Macs to game on. Video creation

Why? The programs which work on both windows and OSX are the best options for professional video editing (which is the most relevant point seeing as the pros are more likely to spend a lot of money on this stuff), so there is no reason to buy a mac for video editing now, unless you want to do it slowly, on a same price comparison.

Also, gpu encoding will overtake cpu encoding at some point.

Lamp0 said,

no they aren't complicated for me, but they are almost certainly going to complicate things for some people I know, let alone my granny.

dude.. No offence, but what's your granny doing with an 8-core Intel Xeon beast?

tooshpz said,

dude.. No offence, but what's your granny doing with an 8-core Intel Xeon beast?

haha.

No, I am saying if my granny got a new laptop with w7 she'd almost certainly be confused as to what libraries are.

excalpius said,
Final Cut Pro is the only reason to own a Mac these days for that.

Everything (and everyone) else is on faster, cheaper PCs.


Final Cut isn't even that good anymore. Apple has let it become obsolete. Adobe Premiere is where it is at right now, everyone I know who edits video has left final cut for adobe. It supports many different types of digital video naively (especially the dslr video which final cut doesn't) and it uses nvidia cuda technology to render in real time.

stokhli said,

Final Cut isn't even that good anymore. Apple has let it become obsolete. Adobe Premiere is where it is at right now

No it's not, Avid is and will always be No.1

Brandon said,
You don't buy Macs to game on. Video creation

I will disagree in a couple of months. There's MUCH more games on the Mac in 2010 than in 2009 and it can only increase. Apple's gonna be able to test their cards and roll out better drivers. They're almost starting to become serious with gaming. Almost.

But IMO a PC isn't for gaming, consoles and televisions are. I'm gonna limit myself to Starcraft 2 and Sims 3 on the computer, but thanks for the rest.

Brandon said,
You don't buy Macs to game on. Video creation

and again, that were a good video card, with proper program comes into play, I guess not many Mac programs can take use of a video card properly to help with video rendering acceleration.

Lamp0 said,

haha.

No, I am saying if my granny got a new laptop with w7 she'd almost certainly be confused as to what libraries are.

grammy would be confuse what a mouse is

Lamp0 said,

yea and spend ages trying get rid of libraries without braking your system, hours of fun.


Sorry......what?

Why do you have to understand them, you just use them - I've not met anyone (apart from just now) that shows the slightest bit of confusion with libraries in general use, you open the document library and low and behold the contents of your documents folder shows up, the only difference is the library allows you to add other folders to it (say the public docs folder).

I kind of agree that when trying to explain the greatness of libraries, the concept and usefulness to someone can be a little daunting (I did this when I first ran win7 beta, but gave up quickly as people don't get it too easily) so just don't, just let them use the libraries as they would use normal folders!

I personally love them, being able to aggregate different locations, create custom libraries and most importantly allowing media sharing to be immensely simplified was long overdue on windows...

Brandon said,
You don't buy Macs to game on. Video creation

Exactly, Macs are mostly for video production and photo editing. No gaming what so ever.

saxondale. said,

No it's not, Avid is and will always be No.1

Avid? Not so sure, If I really wanted to edit video/film I'd go smoke or fire, on a PC (with linux...), but, TBH, I haven't seen any Avid professional system lately so I could be wrong.

Nicholas P. said,
Omg.. so overpriced...
Run fanboys run and get 'em

Go onto the Dell/HP website and spec out a similar workstation (not avg home pc/business PC) and you'll the prices are practically the same. The Mac Pro is not a consumer device, it is a professional workstation.

REM2000 said,

Go onto the Dell/HP website and spec out a similar workstation (not avg home pc/business PC) and you'll the prices are practically the same. The Mac Pro is not a consumer device, it is a professional workstation.

How much more ignorant can you be?
Can you define what a "professional workstation" is and what's the difference with a same specs and much cheaper PC?

If PC is only Dell or HP I should feel bad for you if I was really concerned for you, which I not.

As Mac Pros's specs are out I compare the specs and only the specs. All Apple's hardware is incredible overpriced for absolutely no reason.

So we end up with people - for not an understandable reason to me - they prefer Macs, Mac pros etc. It is a matter of personal taste as I Personally prefer a much hardcore and powerful PC which miraculously will cost cheaper than a low spec - in comparison with my PC of course - Mac pro. If a professional workstation makes you feel better as Apple advertises it... let it be.

I am happy that I will still have more processing power from your professional workstation and I will still have some cash remaining in my account.

Take care and always be happy with your Mac as I am with my PCsss.

Nicholas P. said,

How much more ignorant can you be?
Can you define what a "professional workstation" is and what's the difference with a same specs and much cheaper PC?

If PC is only Dell or HP I should feel bad for you if I was really concerned for you, which I not.

As Mac Pros's specs are out I compare the specs and only the specs. All Apple's hardware is incredible overpriced for absolutely no reason.

So we end up with people - for not an understandable reason to me - they prefer Macs, Mac pros etc. It is a matter of personal taste as I Personally prefer a much hardcore and powerful PC which miraculously will cost cheaper than a low spec - in comparison with my PC of course - Mac pro. If a professional workstation makes you feel better as Apple advertises it... let it be.

I am happy that I will still have more processing power from your professional workstation and I will still have some cash remaining in my account.

Take care and always be happy with your Mac as I am with my PCsss.

Similar Specs for a Dell Precision T5700... $3,954.00 Dell has the advantage with 1333 DDR3 and an Nvidia Quadro card.

If I'm not mistaken that's roughly $500 more for the dell... and similar specs to the Mac Pro.

Nicholas P. said,
Omg.. so overpriced...
Run fanboys run and get 'em

When I bought my iMac 27" in October, it was exactly the same price as a regular PC with the same specs. I had a student discount of about 150 bucks though. I'm pretty positive that this iMac in terms of price and performance was the best priced out of all the iMacs ever created.

But the Mac experience I got since then ? It can't be calculated in terms of money.

PsykX said,
But the Mac experience I got since then ? It can't be calculated in terms of money.

Right, because then you'd owe Apple.

Edited by Mulsivaas, Jul 28 2010, 7:57am :

Wow, decent video cards? That's a nice change. Price point still way too high, but at least it's not a useless gaming machine.

Piggy said,
Wow, decent video cards? That's a nice change. Price point still way too high, but at least it's not a useless gaming machine.
that video card isn't decent but at least it's current gen.

treemonster said,
that video card isn't decent but at least it's current gen.

Not decent? lmao they have the most recent ATI cards which support HDMI with an HDMI port as apposed to the new nvids that don't Now don't get me wrong, I use nvidia myself but I am just stating an obvious fact. Oh and also these cards will run pretty much anything on high so before you so they aren't decent learn your facts.

flashnuke said,

Not decent? lmao they have the most recent ATI cards which support HDMI with an HDMI port as apposed to the new nvids that don't Now don't get me wrong, I use nvidia myself but I am just stating an obvious fact. Oh and also these cards will run pretty much anything on high so before you so they aren't decent learn your facts.

having used a 4870 irl which is marginally better than a 5770 i have to disagree. 4870 was a bad card, all a 5770 has is cooler operating temps and dx11, except it can't even run dx11 games in a playable fashion and osx doesn't have dx11.

further more pairing a $200 card with a $1k cpu is hilarious. not to mention teh number of pcie slots these builds have.

flashnuke said,

Not decent? lmao they have the most recent ATI cards which support HDMI with an HDMI port as apposed to the new nvids that don't Now don't get me wrong, I use nvidia myself but I am just stating an obvious fact. Oh and also these cards will run pretty much anything on high so before you so they aren't decent learn your facts.

haha, is that how you rate video cards? video card GOT ME a HDMI, it GOT HD in it, it mUST BE AMAZING CARD.

you can buy video cards for 50 bucks with HDMI, be it ATI or Nvidia. really nothing special.

flashnuke said,

Not decent? lmao they have the most recent ATI cards which support HDMI with an HDMI port as apposed to the new nvids that don't Now don't get me wrong, I use nvidia myself but I am just stating an obvious fact. Oh and also these cards will run pretty much anything on high so before you so they aren't decent learn your facts.

I just got a new "nvid" with an HDMI port on it, I don't get your point.