Apple reported to kill Ping in next version of iTunes

Ping, Apple's social network for its iTunes Music Store and related services, will be cut from the next major release of iTunes, scheduled for sometime this fall. This information comes from anonymous sources close to the company that spoke to AllThingsD.

This timing coincides with the upcoming release of iOS 6. Ping currently still exists in iTunes 10.6.3, the most recent version, and in the iTunes app in the iOS 6 beta, where it reportedly does not work.

Ping was launched in iTunes 10, where it quickly languished, neglected by users and failing to garner much interest - one of the few definite missteps by Apple in recent memory.

Apple CEO Tim Cook admitted that Ping wasn't working out during last month's interview at the D10 conference. "We tried Ping, and I think the customer voted and said this isn't something that I want to put a lot of energy into," Cook said. "Will we kill it? I don't know; I'll look at it."

Now it seems that the end is coming sooner than later for Ping. The social features offered by Ping in iTunes and related Apple products will reportedly be replaced with Twitter and Facebook, which is heavily integrated in the upcoming iOS 6.

Source: AllThingsD

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Connectivity with Facebook Music probably would have saved Ping. The ability to recommend or share tracks with friends etc on Facebook.

Why cant they just make Itunes a simpler program and not so damn bloated? It really sucks sometimes. It should have been like this from the beginning.

What came first anyway? Ping or Bing? Who was copying who? How come we never heard anything on that front, that would have made for some good useless blog commentary, I totally missed the boat on that one!

Again, please fix your login Neowin. Stop making it go to the forums after I log in.

Now can we get a iTunes lite with all the crap removed from it?

RawGutts said,
Again, please fix your login Neowin. Stop making it go to the forums after I log in.

Now can we get a iTunes lite with all the crap removed from it?

You can kinda-sorta achieve that if you look up Ed Bott's article at ZDNet.

Depicus said,
With FB integration in Mountain Lion I am not surprised.

This. Oh and let's hope we can share songs within our library that we like on our fb. So friends can hear a sample.

I don't know about anyone else but as soon as I install iTunes I always disable the Ping sidebar. Never have I been at all motivated to discover what it actually is or does, nor would I imagine have many others. It really isn't a surprise to see Apple kill it off so soon.

A big loss shaking the Internet community and making analysts around the world question the idea of social networks and their longevity.

"Ping is the first network to fall, mark my words. That Apple, the company that does no wrong, has done so here, is signs of the beginning of the end for Google+, Twitter, Facebook, and possibly even chat systems and message boards. A unique and unsettling atmosphere had settled over here this morning. We really do not know what will happen next. Apple failing. We are on uncharted territory. What the hell is going on.", explains analyst at Forbes.

Northgrove said,
A big loss shaking the Internet community and making analysts around the world question the idea of social networks and their longevity.

"Ping is the first network to fall, mark my words. That Apple, the company that does no wrong, has done so here, is signs of the beginning of the end for Google+, Twitter, Facebook, and possibly even chat systems and message boards. A unique and unsettling atmosphere had settled over here this morning. We really do not know what will happen next. Apple failing. We are on uncharted territory. What the hell is going on.", explains analyst at Forbes.


What a drama queen, he/she is right about Ping being a fail though and finally someone mentions the endangering of your data and communication when "in the cloud" only.

I'm telling you, social networks should be forced to make all my contributions and those of my friends I can see (therefore respecting privacy settings) accessible (yes, I'm looking at you Twitter, people might want to catch the oldest tweet even beyond 3 thousand something tweets... cheapskates on API and features, can't tell you guys enough how backwards and ridiculous Twitter is and everyone is on kool-aid about them).
Oh and downloadable, yes, I'm looking at you Facebook! Your system is laughable (when it works).

GS:mac

Northgrove said,
A big loss shaking the Internet community and making analysts around the world question the idea of social networks and their longevity.

"Ping is the first network to fall, mark my words. That Apple, the company that does no wrong, has done so here, is signs of the beginning of the end for Google+, Twitter, Facebook, and possibly even chat systems and message boards. A unique and unsettling atmosphere had settled over here this morning. We really do not know what will happen next. Apple failing. We are on uncharted territory. What the hell is going on.", explains analyst at Forbes.


Apple & social networks can never start failing? Someone's obviously never heard of the '90s & Myspace...

They should even consider killing off iPod or maybe iMac, Since they don't attract as much as iPhone or iPad in terms of revenue and should even rename the brand of apple to iApple!

iWWDC 2013 as well or iTim Cook. HAHA

Master of Earth said,
They should even consider killing off iPod or maybe iMac, Since they don't attract as much as iPhone or iPad in terms of revenue and should even rename the brand of apple to iApple!

iWWDC 2013 as well or iTim Cook. HAHA

That would be funny if some name there kid iTim lol

With OS X taking over so many trades of iOS I wish Apple gave iTunes that same treatment. Split it up into multiple apps and make things simple once again. Although I see how that could become a problem on Windows.

.Neo said,
With OS X taking over so many trades of iOS I wish Apple gave iTunes that same treatment. Split it up into multiple apps and make things simple once again. Although I see how that could become a problem on Windows.

You're right... I love how iTunes work when it comes to managing my music. Smart Playlists are insanely cool... in fact, it simply works! But there's a major problem... with time iTunes became an increbly clunky mess. It tries to do too many things, and it tries too hard.

At the end, for the Windows version at least, we have an heavy bloated piece of software that is slow (and RAM hungry) even on a very fast computer. Another problem is that iTunes for Windows doesn't use Windows APIs at all... it relies on Quicktime, and this thing is a joke.

I like how iTunes works for music... I hate how it does everything else.


Concerning Ping... as we say in French: Bon d├ębarras!

myxomatosis said,

At the end, for the Windows version at least, we have an heavy bloated piece of software that is slow (and RAM hungry) even on a very fast computer.

That's how it's been since the start, not saying it didn't get worse, it has simply been badly coded from the start

.Neo said,
With OS X taking over so many trades of iOS I wish Apple gave iTunes that same treatment. Split it up into multiple apps and make things simple once again. Although I see how that could become a problem on Windows.

on windows it IS split up... i remember feeling an almost orgasmic satisfaction when uninstalled the many useless crap after i sold my iPhone - and i'm not saying that i de facto hate Apple products but it's outright nonsense how much clutter you need to install for a simple thing as connecting your phone

okay you need to install Zune for WP too - but 1. i actually like zune [for example it adds your music real time to your library, don't need to annoyingly add the folder again just because you copied some stuff in it] 2. it's ONE application, while iTunes brings Apple updater (which kindly warns you about crap you don't even want to install), Bonjour, Quicktime and who knows what... of course if you uninstall something extremely useful as QT then the whole iTunes thingie starts to scream for help and does not work... nicely done.

So yeah, Apple products on Windows are pretty far from exquisite

P.S.: my experience is from the time of iOS4, so if any abovementioned stuff changed about iTunes i wasn't aware of it - luckily the last time i actually saw and used the thing is far in the past

MFH said,
Is Ping as dead as Zune Social?

apparently Microsoft killed Zune Social because they thought people were just using it as a support forum. so now going to social.zune.net will redirect to answers.microsoft.com which is dumb because the forums were HUGE. i still remember that epic-size Korn/Deftones debate.

ikyouCrow said,
epic-size Korn/Deftones debate.

Did it go something like this?

"Davis rox so mch harder then Chino."

"Naaa man Jon dusnt even caer. look at him, hes more obsesed w/ food than music..."

"u gaiz r bofe rong. slipnot is were itz at!!1 <3"

--
Because that's all I picture.

Just taking a moment, thinking about those who mocked The Social in Zune and said that Ping was social sharing done right...

nohone said,
Just taking a moment, thinking about those who mocked The Social in Zune and said that Ping was social sharing done right...

Someone said that Ping was social sharing done right? Let me give you a title example, from a website where the writers apparently feel orgasmic emotions as they discuss Apple, and aptly name their website Macgasm: "Apple's Ping: How To Fix That Which Sucks".

Northgrove said,

Someone said that Ping was social sharing done right? Let me give you a title example, from a website where the writers apparently feel orgasmic emotions as they discuss Apple, and aptly name their website Macgasm: "Apple's Ping: How To Fix That Which Sucks".

Yes, many of the Apple web sites were skeptical. But the fanboys were confident that with the Apple logo slapped on it, it would be a raging success. I remember people calling those sites "haters," when Apple had to deactivate the Facebook integration people were saying that they were going to deactivate their Facebook account, and generally being upset with any comparison with Zune Social. The common remark was "hey Apple, welcome to the social," and the Apple faithful twitched with anger.

Just because some web sites, in a rare sign of dissent, were not on board did not mean that many did not think of it as a way to prove that Apple would succeed where Microsoft failed.

Much like iTunes LP was supposed to bring a new era of multimedia to music, and failed, Ping was a nothing from the brilliant mind of Stevie.

nohone said,
Just taking a moment, thinking about those who mocked The Social in Zune and said that Ping was social sharing done right...

Ping looked at my library filled with the sorts like Radiohead and We vs. Death, then suggested that I might like 50 Cent and Pink.

Although I have no interest in the music of my friends (and wouldn't even if I were into the same sort of music to begin with, which we're not but even if we were, I just find music that I like by looking for it myself) the suggestions were terrible and what is there to say about music?

"I like that song." "That was a crackin track." "OMG, I love this artist."

It's a failed concept to begin with really imo.

nohone said,
Just taking a moment, thinking about those who mocked The Social in Zune and said that Ping was social sharing done right...

Who EVER said ANYTHING positive about Ping? I sure never heard it and would have fully disagreed. Plus, I do not want that crap on my iTunes anyway, disabled it immediately.

Alladaskill17 said,

Who EVER said ANYTHING positive about Ping? I sure never heard it and would have fully disagreed. Plus, I do not want that crap on my iTunes anyway, disabled it immediately.

Yeah, I've never seen or heard a positive outlook of Ping, even from a few Apple followers / fans I know.

nohone said,
Just taking a moment, thinking about those who mocked The Social in Zune and said that Ping was social sharing done right...

I don't know anyone who praised Ping. At all.

Personally, I signed-up for it because it was there... but I don't think I touched it beyond the first day.