Apple sues Samsung about the look of their phones and tablets

Another day, another lawsuit. Today it appears that Samsung has riled up the lawyers with their line of Galaxy phones and tablets and Apple intends to defend its patents in court. According to a Reuters report, Samsung is copying Apple’s ideas, specifically the shape of the company’s smart phones and the icons that the phones display. Apparently Apple is concerned with the rounded corners on the icons as the lawsuit states, “Even the icons in earlier versions of the Samsung smart phones looked different because they had a variety of shapes -- and did not appear as a field of square icons with rounded corners.” They are also upset that Samsung’s smart phone looks similar to the iPhone with its rounded corners.

On the surface this sounds like yet another case of a company using their fleet of lawyers to beat their competition instead of actually competing; icons have been around since the beginning of the GUI and the Android operating system can display more than just simple icons unlike iOS. In addition, many smart phones look similar nowadays – there’s only so much you can do with a nearly button-less piece of glass that makes phone calls.

Things get more interesting due to the fact that Samsung is the provider of the processor that the iPhone uses. Although Apple is the heavyweight in the industry, they still need to be careful when dealing with their vendors. Samsung predictably replied that they will actively protect their own intellectual property and defend themselves from Apple’s lawsuit.

Is Samsung blatantly ripping off Apple? And more importantly, should a company be allowed to patent rounded corners on telephones and screen icons?

Image Courtesy of mubilemarket.blogspot.com

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Ricardo Dawkins said,

Wow awesome picture! Crazy to think that the Samsung on the left is where we were headed in the cell phone market and the iPhone basically (Ripped) the idea, refined it and made it sparkly and now EVERY modern phone since that day has had icons on the bottom and icon grid(s) above it. I think a more appropriate argument would be:

Would we sue makers of the first car made AFTER the 'engine' was produced? So if company A. DESIGNED the 'engine' and company B. built off company A's idea but made it stronger, more powerful, etc. -- just because it's the same THING doesn't mean it was copied with malicious intent. As someone had previously said, there's only so much you can do with a piece of glass used to make phone calls and such.

Honestly, as hard as I'm thinking right now, I can't even imagine what a phone's interface would look like had it NOT been for the 'icon grid' and 'dock' concepts. Widgets obviously aren't anything new in this world so how would we be organizing our apps these days if the iPhone was never created?

Owner of 3 iphones, 2 ipod touchs and 2 droids (Evo and Epic) so I'm not biased and I enjoy Apple's products (when I can afford them lol)

I don't recall tire manufacturers suing themselves for making tires that have the same shape. A phone is a phone nowadays and unless it is completely identical, I don't see how Apple can win this.

Another lame arsed action by Apple not just as the horse has bolted but ridden totally out of view!
Android's been kicking the guts out of the tired looking iOS and anthing to disrupt that benefits Apple.
And yes I do have a GS, and no it doesn't have a lame iOS look alike screen (more like HTC actually )

It's just another lame arsed publicity stunt by Apple after the horse has not just bolted but completely disappeared from view altogether.
Android has been giving the tired looking iOS a run for it's money for some time now, and anything to disrupt it helps Apple.
And yes, I do have a GS and no I dont have a iOS look alike screen (more like a HTC look alike )

You cannot patent a design if you could dress makers would do so for the Oscar dresses to stop the retail cheaper knockoffs from being made. As to copyright you cannot copyright an Icon and then say that all icons for mail violate it. Obviously in the age of the GUI there will need to be an icon for it. IMO Apple figures it can use it money to possible win a lawsuit that they should not ever have had the chance to win. Unfortunately our judicial system is not very tech savvy and in most cases do not have the knowledge to make a proper decision. It's just like the recent Hyperlink decision. I'm sorry but the idea that a patent that stated in a very vague for the concept that someday you could hit an area of text that would then initiate another file somehow means that person now owns the rights to hyperlink usage is ridiculous. Then again that's our judiciary.

Where was Apple a year ago when the Galaxy series was released? Why isnt Apple suing the people who make launcher replacements that look like the iOS?

Apple is being a bitch here and if Samsung wasnt doing so well, they wouldnt of been sued. I seriously hope Apple loses this as someone needs to put them in check.

Since the lawyers are the main ones benefiting from all these tech suits & counter suits, I wonder if it's ever occurred to anyone to wonder where their actual loyalty lies? I mean the banks are constantly doing trades amongst themselves, generating commissions on the trades, not the results that benefit clients... The lawyers are the ones who recommend legal action, & not only do they benefit, they're the *only* ones certain to benefit -- win or lose they still get the condo in Vail. ;-)

Apple said,
“Even the icons in earlier versions of the Samsung smart phones looked different because they had a variety of shapes -- and did not appear as a field of square icons with rounded corners.”

Interestingly, my Nokia 3320, which runs Symbian and I have since 2005, has icons with rounded corners....

This will get thrown out before it even gets a hearing. The product has been out since last year and apple are only now sueing for what a product that looks like a phone that looks like another phone. Maybe we will see the Automobile industry sueing each other because your car has four wheels on it.
Maybe the original designer of the first mobile phone wants to sue any manufacturer of a mobile phone because it is a cellular design utilising a wave form signal pickup....

Apple becoming as useless as a chocolate teapot or an ashtray on a motorbike
Plus if they were really serious they would have sued before the product went to manufacture not xx number of days after the fact

The samsung's interface is customizable, so it can look as much like (or unlike) an iPhone as the individual wants. Apple would be better off suing individual users that are mimicking their interface.

Ergonomically the speaker has to be near the ear, and the microphone near the mouth.
Buttons are easiest accessed at the bottom of the device, now are they complaining they have 1 button, or that the button is the same shape???
The screen is fixed X by Y shape a screen shape cannot really be changed. The casing is usually shaped around the screen hence why most smart touch phone all basically have the same shape and feel.
I can understand there point of view, if you compared this to a car design, but the device is to small to be compared to a car as you literally have less to work with.

I cant understand this, unless they are using it as a stalling/delaying tactic and forcing samsung into
some agreement were they will drop the case if they do N.

Lets face it, all phones will actually look the same, it will be the OS that will distinguish device from device. I think apple needs to accept this as a fact of life.

OMG the apple i ate today looks like Apple's logo. Are they going to sue me for eating something that looks like their logo!

I have a Samsung Galaxy S. My decision to buy it wasn't based on any similarities it may or may not have to my previous iPhone. I bought it because to me, it's a superior phone.

ManMountain said,
I have a Samsung Galaxy S. My decision to buy it wasn't based on any similarities it may or may not have to my previous iPhone. I bought it because to me, it's a superior phone.

+1, Same here.

the REAL reason apple is doing this is because android is outshining them in sales. this will blow over, samsung if anything will just remove touchwiz from shipped phones. i bet any money touchwiz will be available as a separate UI for download on the market. apple will not win this battle. i sure do not see palm or microsoft suing anyone over using alternative UI's on the market that are copies of wp7 or webos. this also should not affect the nexus s as it is pure android with no specific UI.

This is a stupid, biased article and the author simply chose pics that do not resamble iPhone on purpose.

Galaxy S is a rip off of iPhone. So much that, one wouldn't expect such a thing from a serious company like Samsung.

How can ya patent a smart phones look cus there's only a limited number of ways to make it look without it being impractical. You can't have thin sharply rounded corners cus the health and safety will be on your back, and a kid could poke his eye out or even some psycho could use it as a weapon in a drunk bar fight.

If anyone mistakes an iPhone for any other smartphone then there completely stupid, the iPhone hasn't really changed since the 1st gen. 1 home button, 1 power button top right, volume control on the left side exactly the same ui, unable to change it without jailbreaking and that's why I think the iPhone is the crappest most boring pile of rubbish I've ever seen. I've bin bored with it for 1 1/2 years and need wait another 9 months till I can afford a new phone contract. I find the apps really boring to.

I'll be going wp7 next maybe it's similar in the way you can't change the screen layout and stuff either but it's fresh and will keep me entertained for a while. I don't like android phone had a go of my mates galaxy and was bored of it after 20 minutes

That's my wickle rant over

I thought it was retarded until i seen the correct images... the resemblance is too close i can see why they would be ****ed.

The images at the top of this article have nothing to do with the actual problem.

Im sorry, but Apple the samsung phone really look nothing like the iPhone. Instead of suing companies for designing phones with "similar" forms why not embrace the fact that you led the way for current smartphones

ILikeTobacco said,

you are right they dont look anything alike.

http://www.upvery.com/attachme...s/201003/20100328215520.jpg

Sorry, I can spot the difference immediately, one button on the iPhone, three on the Samsung and I don't see a huge similarity in the icons. They are hardly rounded at all on the Samsung, the primary button is square versus Apple's rounded, and finally SAMSUNG written on the front of the phone.

Sorry but "a moron in a hurry" wouldn't confuse these two.

schubb2003 said,

Sorry, I can spot the difference immediately, one button on the iPhone, three on the Samsung and I don't see a huge similarity in the icons. They are hardly rounded at all on the Samsung, the primary button is square versus Apple's rounded, and finally SAMSUNG written on the front of the phone.

Sorry but "a moron in a hurry" wouldn't confuse these two.

Concept fail? Nobody has said they are identical. You don't rip a design and come out with an identical product. You make slight modifications so its not obvious. Apple is not saying they are identical products. They are saying their design was ripped.

ILikeTobacco said,

Concept fail? Nobody has said they are identical. You don't rip a design and come out with an identical product. You make slight modifications so its not obvious. Apple is not saying they are identical products. They are saying their design was ripped.

Comprehension fail? It is quite obvious they are not the same, especially with SAMSUNG written on the front of the phone! It has three buttons, apple has one. If it has a single square button, and nothing written on the phone, that would be more likely.

You cannot "rip" rounded corners, sorry you just can't...those icons, look like Windows icons far more than IOS.

I know two blind men that would not confuse these phones...they would know immediately that the iPhone has ONE button, not three.

schubb2003 said,

Comprehension fail? It is quite obvious they are not the same, especially with SAMSUNG written on the front of the phone! It has three buttons, apple has one. If it has a single square button, and nothing written on the phone, that would be more likely.

You cannot "rip" rounded corners, sorry you just can't...those icons, look like Windows icons far more than IOS.

I know two blind men that would not confuse these phones...they would know immediately that the iPhone has ONE button, not three.

You are right, there is absolutely nothing similar about these phones. I'm going to go build a Ferrari now and put it up for mass distribution and just change the name on it. Maybe round of some corners a bit. Even though they look the similar and it would be completely obvious that I am ripping the design to profit off of theirs, I'll just round some corners off and then Ferrari wouldn't be able to sue me.

ILikeTobacco said,

You are right, there is absolutely nothing similar about these phones. I'm going to go build a Ferrari now and put it up for mass distribution and just change the name on it. Maybe round of some corners a bit. Even though they look the similar and it would be completely obvious that I am ripping the design to profit off of theirs, I'll just round some corners off and then Ferrari wouldn't be able to sue me.

Absolutely correct....As long as they are not easily confused, and people buying the product because they are confusded into thinking it is another, there is NOTHING wrong with that.

Does you car go by the name Furareree? Is its logo a rearing horse? Then you are in trouble.. Is your car called a potato, and the logo the old Mr. Yuck face? They are on safe ground.

Flat panel TVs all look alike...should TV manufactures be suing each other because they have speakers on the side, and touch controls on the right? How about because all the connectors are in the back?

The test becomes if a consumer cannot easily tell the difference. Apple loves to use the "moron in a hurry" argument when they are "appropriating" designs, so they best be ready for it to be used against them as well.

schubb2003 said,

Absolutely correct....As long as they are not easily confused, and people buying the product because they are confusded into thinking it is another, there is NOTHING wrong with that.

Does you car go by the name Furareree? Is its logo a rearing horse? Then you are in trouble.. Is your car called a potato, and the logo the old Mr. Yuck face? They are on safe ground.

Flat panel TVs all look alike...should TV manufactures be suing each other because they have speakers on the side, and touch controls on the right? How about because all the connectors are in the back?

The test becomes if a consumer cannot easily tell the difference. Apple loves to use the "moron in a hurry" argument when they are "appropriating" designs, so they best be ready for it to be used against them as well.

Lol you really should read up on United States copyright and patent laws if you actually believe that. It's 100% illegal to do what I said with the Ferrari example.

ILikeTobacco said,

Lol you really should read up on United States copyright and patent laws if you actually believe that. It's 100% illegal to do what I said with the Ferrari example.

I don't need to, I can walk into any store and see that Apple has no leg to stand on. How much differentiation is there between cordless phones? How about Hot Wheels versus Matchbox, coffee pots, spatulas, recliners, wheel barrows...and the list could really go on for just about any item.

The law requires that the objects can very easily be confused for one another, passed off as the original....this simply cannot, they are obviously different, even at a quick glance.

schubb2003 said,

I don't need to, I can walk into any store and see that Apple has no leg to stand on. How much differentiation is there between cordless phones? How about Hot Wheels versus Matchbox, coffee pots, spatulas, recliners, wheel barrows...and the list could really go on for just about any item.

The law requires that the objects can very easily be confused for one another, passed off as the original....this simply cannot, they are obviously different, even at a quick glance.

"Apple is bringing 16 claims against Samsung, including unjust enrichment, trademark infringement and 10 patent claims."
it has to do with blatent patent and copyright infringement.

Since you A. have absolutely no idea how the laws in question work and B. didnt bother to read the article at all, convo done.

ILikeTobacco said,

"Apple is bringing 16 claims against Samsung, including unjust enrichment, trademark infringement and 10 patent claims."
it has to do with blatent patent and copyright infringement.

Since you A. have absolutely no idea how the laws in question work and B. didnt bother to read the article at all, convo done.

Of course it is, you decided you won, and you want to stop. The "convo" is done once the courts decide.

Since you are obviously a lawyer, I should bow down to you? You believe it is blatant, I don't.

This is one of the complaints - " a 4x4 field of square icons with rounded corners", "black border sizes ", "a metallic surround framing", and F***ing packaging.

Try reading this from a real lawyer, instead of playing one on forums:
http://thisismynext.com/2011/0...pple-sues-samsung-analysis/

schubb2003 said,

Of course it is, you decided you won, and you want to stop. The "convo" is done once the courts decide.

Since you are obviously a lawyer, I should bow down to you? You believe it is blatant, I don't.

This is one of the complaints - " a 4x4 field of square icons with rounded corners", "black border sizes ", "a metallic surround framing", and F***ing packaging.

Try reading this from a real lawyer, instead of playing one on forums:
http://thisismynext.com/2011/0...pple-sues-samsung-analysis/

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you link a page and didnt bother to read it. good job. you did exactly what the guy was warning people not to do. you listed a few elements instead of taking it in full context. good job for proving that you yourself dont understand the way this works. also good job failing to realize that they are putting every little thing in there because as long as one of them works in court, the whole phone line is put in jeopardy. seriously, if your going to give a link showing your own mistake, why bother?

ILikeTobacco said,
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you link a page and didnt bother to read it. good job. you did exactly what the guy was warning people not to do. you listed a few elements instead of taking it in full context. good job for proving that you yourself dont understand the way this works. also good job failing to realize that they are putting every little thing in there because as long as one of them works in court, the whole phone line is put in jeopardy. seriously, if your going to give a link showing your own mistake, why bother?

Because every other line states "This reeks of desperation", I read the whole thing multiple times, glad you know what I did. There were only two of those that were noted where Apple had good reasoning behind them. About the only thing they listed that was truly noteworthy was the multitouch interface, which has been argued many times before, has existed since the 70's, but Apple states "We invented it", and somehow has won that.

I noted the main points showing Apple's greed, forgive me for not noting every single point...I thought this was a forum, not a blog.

Again - The courts will decide, and we will probably never hear anything about it. Apple has something Samsung wants and Samsung has something Apple wants. A bit of mutually assured destruction threats, they cross license whatever it is and everybody walks away under a seal court record.

Edited by schubb2003, Apr 21 2011, 1:49pm :

U gotta admit that the icons the galaxy devices use are pretty much an iOS ripoff (and they look quite messy too). Also the galaxy S really does look like it uses the same chrome border the first iphones have.
But meh. Most phones look the same these days anyway.

AP707 said,

Woah woah woah, that does look pretty damn similar to me.

You have to consider the fact that Android is quite customizable; visually. I could set my Droid X up to look very similar to an iPhone if I want to, but like most Android users my screens look massively different. I use a substantial number of widgets to make things easy view, and reduce the need to actually open apps to get information quickly (calendar, weather, media players, etc).

The fact that Android can line up it's icons in rows is pretty irrelevant, especially considering that it's about the least intuitive method to organize your phone.

I think the problem is more that the iPhone cannot do all of the customization that Android phones can do. Sure, you can make an Android screen incredibly simplistic, but why would you?

bladebarrier said,

You have to consider the fact that Android is quite customizable; visually. I could set my Droid X up to look very similar to an iPhone if I want to, but like most Android users my screens look massively different. I use a substantial number of widgets to make things easy view, and reduce the need to actually open apps to get information quickly (calendar, weather, media players, etc).

The fact that Android can line up it's icons in rows is pretty irrelevant, especially considering that it's about the least intuitive method to organize your phone.

I think the problem is more that the iPhone cannot do all of the customization that Android phones can do. Sure, you can make an Android screen incredibly simplistic, but why would you?

The issue is that, regardless of how easy it is to do for however many people, Samsung have purposely made it look (and perhaps behave) like iOS and also replicated (to a lesser extent) the iPhone hardware, then sold it.

Examinus said,
Rubbish images in the article. Looking at these you can see Apple has a reasonable case:

http://mobilized.allthingsd.co...-line-of-phones-and-tablets

Sorry, I can spot the difference immediately, one button the iPhone and I don't see a huge similarity in the icons. They are hardly rounded at all on the Samsung, the primary button is square versus Apple's rounded, and finally SAMSUNG written on the front of the phone.

Sorry but "a moron in a hurry" wouldn't confuse these two.

schubb2003 said,

Sorry, I can spot the difference immediately, one button the iPhone and I don't see a huge similarity in the icons. They are hardly rounded at all on the Samsung, the primary button is square versus Apple's rounded, and finally SAMSUNG written on the front of the phone.

Sorry but "a moron in a hurry" wouldn't confuse these two.

Do you think this lawsuit is focused on the differences or the similarities?

Is anyone really surprised because of this? This stupid company would patent even their toilet paper if it had rounded corners.

The only similarities:

Touch screen
Round edge
Button at bottom
Rectangular
Black

Sorry, is Samsung supposed to put their buttons behind or something? Or Unintuitively on the top. I mean really, the bottom end of Galaxy is curved. Just no, no. I am sittong here looking at my watch, whilst if Apple ever get into the watch industry they probably will make something sleek, I can imagine them sueing everyone for having dials on it....

Gaurav Agrawal said,
If the company which made the first laptop had patented notebook style/design...then.........
Apple would still sue them for having a product that looks like a macbook.

What is strange is that even when Jobs was not in control of Apple, their lawsuits were almost the same type of crap, fueled by emotions rather than substance, and executed in a way that would cut off their nose to spite their face.

Even just Wiki the Apple vs Microsoft lawsuits, or here is a good link that has more detail on the dates and meetings of what happened: http://lowendmac.com/orchard/06/apple-vs-microsoft.html

Apple seems to 'think' it owns ideas and implementations of ideas that are simply insane. Even in the original Microsoft lawsuit, Microsoft licensed Mac UI elements just to give Apple something in return for them producing software for the Mac in the 80s, and then Win 2.0 came out, and Apple was angry again. The lawsuit ended mainly because of the 'licensed' items in the original Win 1.0 contract with Apple, but legal experts conclude that the majority of the lawsuit still would have been through out, as Microsoft's implementation was nothing like Apple's.

And Apple is still trying this crap.

Apple is suing everyone right now. I just read another article about them going after HTC and Nokia. I used to be a big Apple fan back in the day but some of their business practices have left me disappointed over time and looking for alternatives.

Soulsiphon said,
Apple is suing everyone right now. I just read another article about them going after HTC and Nokia. I used to be a big Apple fan back in the day but some of their business practices have left me disappointed over time and looking for alternatives.

Yeah same.

Next up;
Apple sues makers of coffee tables all round the world; "They all have rounded corners". In addition,
Apple is suing spacetime, also curved, but couldn't get hold of an address for it's lawyer.

morphen said,
Next up;
Apple sues makers of coffee tables all round the world; "They all have rounded corners". In addition,
Apple is suing spacetime, also curved, but couldn't get hold of an address for it's lawyer.

LAWL!

GS:ios

morphen said,
Next up;
Apple sues makers of coffee tables all round the world; "They all have rounded corners". In addition,
Apple is suing spacetime, also curved, but couldn't get hold of an address for it's lawyer.
lol at spacetime

Well... the Galaxy always looked an aweful lot like the iPhone... My girlfriend once showed me a Galaxy at the store and asked if that was the new iPhone... and she knows a thing or two about Smartphones... really... But suing? Bad press... Very bad press. And wayyyy overreacted.

But again, you have to admit: The software and the hardware really look alike...

instant.human said,
Well... the Galaxy always looked an aweful lot like the iPhone... My girlfriend once showed me a Galaxy at the store and asked if that was the new iPhone... and she knows a thing or two about Smartphones... really... But suing? Bad press... Very bad press. And wayyyy overreacted.

But again, you have to admit: The software and the hardware really look alike...

Well as a galaxy s owner, I can tell you no one uses touchwiz... This might be good for us. I really think my phone and iPhone 3gs looks alike except my screen is a lot bigger and better. I hope samsung can give us much nicer design such as the Arc.

You can't really go off the iphone look much unless it's WP7. Even blackberry UI looks like the iphone. The looks of icons, that's getting low Microsoft could say why is the iphone using buttons like out desktop shortcuts but rounded ?

Gaffney said,
You can't really go off the iphone look much unless it's WP7. Even blackberry UI looks like the iphone. The looks of icons, that's getting low Microsoft could say why is the iphone using buttons like out desktop shortcuts but rounded ?

I think its mostly got to do with the hardware.. if they shaped it just a bit different then it would be fine.. But it is true if you hold them side by side someone that has only seen them on TV might not know the difference.. It is a way of the samsung taking advantage of all the marketing that Apple does.

ahhell said,
The Blackberry OS does NOT look like IOS. Blackberrys have always looked like that. If anything, Apple copied them.

I believe that was his point.

Oh dear, Suing your Screen supplier, not going to end well for them tbh, the phones look nothing alike, Apple you're just being retarded with this law suit

Fubar said,
Oh dear, Suing your Screen supplier, not going to end well for them tbh, the phones look nothing alike, Apple you're just being retarded with this law suit

I don't know about the phone, but the software looks very similar.

Fubar said,
Oh dear, Suing your Screen supplier, not going to end well for them tbh, the phones look nothing alike, Apple you're just being retarded with this law suit

I hope them stop supplying them with LCD's until the "matter is resolved"

Fubar said,
Oh dear, Suing your Screen supplier, not going to end well for them tbh, the phones look nothing alike, Apple you're just being retarded with this law suit

Samsung does not supply the screens, but they do manufacture something more important: the system on a chip.

Fubar said,
Oh dear, Suing your Screen supplier, not going to end well for them tbh, the phones look nothing alike, Apple you're just being retarded with this law suit

Its actually a really smart move by them.. They biggest profit maker is the ipad.. They are attempting to stop Samsung from releasing theirs.. Even if they delay it by a few months it would cause them to make billions.. The Samsung Galaxy Tab 10 is hitting the Ipad right where it hurts.. Its thinner and lighter, the one thing that apple just made such a big fuss about their device being

Trong said,

Samsung does not supply the screens, but they do manufacture something more important: the system on a chip.

Samsung do provide the screens sorry to say...

dimithrak said,

I thought Apple produced its own chip? A4?


Apple designed it. Samsung manufactures it. Apple doesn't make anything. They only design and have someone else put it together.

M_Lyons10 said,

That would be awesome. lol

It would be terrible business sense. For one, any contract you enter to supply a company like Apple is going to have requirements that you meet a certain quota or face penalties. If you sold Apple 30,000,000 widgets for $250 million then you'd better supply them on time or you're looking at being on the wrong side of a multi-million dollar penalty.

Second, let's suppose Samsung was in a position to deny Apple some critical widget, and lets also assume that the courts wouldn't immediately issue an injunction and issue civil judgement in addition to contractual penalties: what the hell do they do with 30,000,000 widgets plugging up their warehouse? It's not like there are dozens of other companies that demand components in the quantity that Apple does, and all technology has a "best before date" - sitting on it for six months to several years is a damn fine way to lose money, you need to move it. Then there's the issue with excess production capacity: in addition to your old stock, you've not got factories that were booked into next year that are sitting idle. Apple is the sort of firm that signs multi-year, multi-billion dollar contracts, you're not just risking 2 months of business, you're risking years under the current contract, and giving up any hope in hell of getting a contract renewal in the next century.

Even if it wouldn't be a huge economic hardship for Samsung, why would you hand a contract as big as Apple over to your competitor for absolutely zero gain. It's not like saying "no more widgets till court is done Apple" would make the case go away any sooner. This is a trade-dress case: Apple is obligated by trademark law to file these cases. So the worst case is that you lose billions now, billions in the future, and then actually lose the court case you were upset about in the first place. What do you stand to gain even if you won? Business is allowed to continue as usual. How does a CEO explain that sort of thing to share holders? "We're risking billions, to gain nothing we couldn't gain without risking everything. But hey, Apple is mean, that'll teach'em."

And then you have all your other contracted business to worry about. "Oh don't worry, we just wanted Apple to do something for us. We'd never screw you guys over just to make you do a favor for us."

"In addition, many smart phones look similar nowadays - there's only so much you can do with a nearly button-less piece of glass that makes phone calls."

Windows Phone 7 looks nothing like iOS.

day2die said,
"In addition, many smart phones look similar nowadays - there's only so much you can do with a nearly button-less piece of glass that makes phone calls."

Windows Phone 7 looks nothing like iOS.

They're talking about the physical device.

day2die said,
"In addition, many smart phones look similar nowadays - there's only so much you can do with a nearly button-less piece of glass that makes phone calls."

Windows Phone 7 looks nothing like iOS.

in that part they are talking about the hardware, not the software.

virtorio said,
They're talking about the physical device.

Yeah, and what phones in this day and age don't have rounded corners. This is just Apple being stupid again.

Jebadiah said,
Yup. I have to hand it to Apple this time because Samsung has been creating iPhone prostitutes to give people, who cannot afford a real iPhone, the cheap girlfriend experience. And, if Apple is really serious about this, I am sure Apple has patents on the iPhone design, otherwise they wouldn't be going after Samsung for the design of the device.

Except I'm pretty sure the Galaxy had better specs than the equivalent iPhone. Never had one, but I can make a safe assumption. Companies always go after lawsuits where they think they can win, but not many of them get anywhere.

Exactly. They absolutely "borrowed" the design of the iPhone. Ironically, my favorite WP7 phone is the Samsung Omnia 7, which has the closest looking button to the iPhone's.

I am a little surprised that Apple is suing their SoC supplier for something that is a bit limited in terms of creativity. The Samsung Galaxy S has a curve to it, and actually uses a button. I think this has more to do with Android than anything else. It's certainly an interesting way to treat a business partner though.

Everytime i see a new phone my mind slips and thinks is an iPhone, but it's true:

"there's only so much you can do with a nearly button-less piece of glass that makes phone calls."

But I remember Nokia used to make phone designs completely different, what happened to those designers they quit or they were forced to make all designs similar.

day2die said,
Windows Phone 7 looks nothing like iOS.

Lets hope they dont opt for rounded "bubble" like tiles else apple might get cranky...