AT&T announces new '4G' Windows Phone 7.5 lineup

AT&T is looking to support Mango and it will be doing so on two different fronts. Not only is AT&T saying that it will be among the first to update its current devices to Mango, but it is also announcing that it will be bringing three new devices to its store shelves.

The new Windows Phone devices that AT&T will be offering are the HTC Titan, Samsung Focus S, and the Samsung Focus Flash. Information, provided by AT&T press release, can be found below about each device:

Samsung Focus S

The Samsung Focus™ S builds on the success of the award-winning and highest-selling Windows Phone in the U.S., the Samsung Focus™. Featuring a 4.3-inch Super AMOLED Plus display, 1.4 GHz processor, 4G-capable speeds and a thin profile at 8.55 millimeters. It includes front facing 1.3-megapixel and a rear facing 8-megapixel cameras. The Samsung Focus S will find its way into a lot of pockets this fall.

HTC TITAN

Debuting as the largest screen in AT&T's smartphone portfolio at 4.7 inches, HTC TITAN™ fits comfortably in the palm of your hand.  Watch video from AT&T U-Verse Mobile or play Xbox LIVE® games on the largest screen yet for a Windows Phone.  Running a 1.5 GHz processor and an 8-megapixel camera with dual LED flash, HTC TITAN will feed the senses.

Samsung Focus Flash

Designed to hit the market packed with value, Samsung Focus™ Flash's 3.7-inch Super AMOLED screen will both fit in pockets and be light on pocketbooks with the full power of Windows Phone 7.5 inside.  As fast and lightweight as it is compact, it runs a 1.4 GHz processor and a 5-megapixel camera plus front facing camera.

Also, AT&T is saying that they will be among the first to offer Microsoft’s new Mango update to its existing Windows Phone devices. It’s an interesting choice of words to say that they will be among the first, meaning that there could be a staggered rollout for each carrier.

There was no further update on when the Mango rollout would occur, but the press release simply states this Fall.

These new devices are great news for Microsoft as it continues to push its Windows Phone platform. For Microsoft, getting three new devices on store shelves before the holiday shopping season should help boost adoption of the platform.

While this week’s BUILD conference is primarily focused on Windows 8, there have been rumors that we may hear more about the Mango launch for Windows Phone.

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Screw Att.. I have them now.
I'm already running Mango on my Surround..Im waiting for Verizon to announce the phones. Then it's gonna be switch time

JnCoKiLLa said,
Screw Att.. I have them now.
I'm already running Mango on my Surround..Im waiting for Verizon to announce the phones. Then it's gonna be switch time
+1... Hopefully we get some better hardware. (even though better hardware isn't needed, I STILL WANT IT!)

While I personally I am not affected because I do not use AT&T there is a chapter, at the end of the press release, that could raise some concern both for actual and potential customers:

" 4G speeds delivered by HSPA+ with enhanced backhaul. Not available everywhere. Deployment ongoing. Compatible device and data plan required. Learn more at att.com/network.

I wonder if this will mean a different, more expensive of course, data plan.

LOL, they had one bigger, the Dell Streak, which I bought from Dell direct since it wasn't in their stores, but, it was back when the iPhone was all AT&T cared about, so they & Dell never marketed it. Still LOVE the streak!

Debuting as the largest screen in AT&T's smartphone portfolio at 4.7 inches,

Holy cow! AT&T actually gives a crap about Windows Phone?
Let me say it again:
AT&T actually gives a crap about Windows Phone?!?!

And wait, they're actually going to be one of the first carriers to update their phones to Mango, too?

I'll believe it when I see it.

PlogCF said,
Holy cow! AT&T actually gives a crap about Windows Phone?
Let me say it again:
AT&T actually gives a crap about Windows Phone?!?!

And wait, they're actually going to be one of the first carriers to update their phones to Mango, too?

I'll believe it when I see it.


Well, they do have more devices than I think any other carrier... I wish other carriers cared that much.

I do find it odd that they are promising to be among the first to push the update. That tells me that Microsoft is MUCH more directly involved this time. Which would mean they are just as involved with the other carriers...

dotf said,
I don't think Nokia is going to make the 2011 season in the US.

Whelp the US has never been Nokia's primary market or concern, It wouldn't be surprised for them to solely concentrate on the EU for their first Windows Phone devices, especially considering they've only had a few months to get everything together.

~Johnny said,

Whelp the US has never been Nokia's primary market or concern, It wouldn't be surprised for them to solely concentrate on the EU for their first Windows Phone devices, especially considering they've only had a few months to get everything together.


True, but I still expect them to ship *something* stateside. They are trying to capture market and drive brand recognition here. To do that, people need to see you.

dotf said,
I don't think Nokia is going to make the 2011 season in the US.

That said, I'm looking at The Samsung Focus S for my new device.

Say goodbye to Nokia then. I'm willing to wait until Nokia's late October event, but if they do not announce a release date for November or early December, then I will most likely be getting a new Samsung phone, assuming that they do not look and feel like garbage.

I really would like to give Nokia a shot, but I am not going to wait until a quarter of the way through WP7.5's life cycle to buy into it. I wouldn't be too shocked if a lot of other people were similarly excited about the prospect of the SeaRay WP7 phone, but may simply jump at the chance to own any of the other brand's phones simply because they're available while Nokia is in the background hiding what it is doing.

They need to realize that they are not Apple, and people have no idea when their phones will be released--if they even will be coming out this year--and we will not wait around forever. Seriously, how difficult is it for them to take their N9, put in the Qualcomm processor and put on WP7? That's what I want. That's an iPhone competitor right there. Why they have yet to make it happen is beyond me.

And show it off! Make me want it! Make me wait instead of buying one of your competitor's WP7 phones.

FMH said,
Does this mean no Nokia WP for AT&T?

Because they are also mentioning phones not yet revealed.


I'm sure Nokia is demanding they make their own reveals... And though they are expecting a couple of devices this fall, it won't ramp up until next year too... It sounds like Nokia is very involved in Tango as well, so much of their push might be around then...

UndergroundWire said,
If it's not 4G LTE, it's not worth it.

Are you being serious? You do realise there is bugger all point in MS supporting LTE at the moment until the rest of the world deploys it?

The_Decryptor said,
You mean LTE Advanced, right? because plain LTE doesn't qualify as 4G.

No, seems like it is worse than LTE... "4G speeds delivered by HSPA+ with enhanced backhaul. Not available everywhere. Deployment ongoing. Compatible device and data plan required. Learn more at att.com/network."

Sionic Ion said,

No, seems like it is worse than LTE... "4G speeds delivered by HSPA+ with enhanced backhaul. Not available everywhere. Deployment ongoing. Compatible device and data plan required. Learn more at att.com/network."

That's all up to the network/carrier, as far as the OS goes and MS, they support 4G on the software side.

The_Decryptor said,
They're passing off HSPA+ as 4G?

What are they going to call the actual 4G tech, 5G?

We all get to thank T-Mobile for that. T-Mobile started calling the HSPA+ network 4G, and AT&T even publicly denounced it. But, they were forced to call their own HSPA+ rollout 4G as a result, or lose customers to misrepresented buzzwords.

I assume that they will still call LTE, 4G.

pickypg said,
We all get to thank T-Mobile for that. T-Mobile started calling the HSPA+ network 4G, and AT&T even publicly denounced it. But, they were forced to call their own HSPA+ rollout 4G as a result, or lose customers to misrepresented buzzwords.

I assume that they will still call LTE, 4G.


Well, with AT&T's rollout of their true 4G going so slowly, they had to call something 4G. LOL

M_Lyons10 said,

Well, with AT&T's rollout of their true 4G going so slowly, they had to call something 4G. LOL

Are AT&T actually rolling out LTE Advanced though? There's lots of talk about plain LTE, which doesn't qualify as 4G.

M_Lyons10 said,

Well, with AT&T's rollout of their true 4G going so slowly, they had to call something 4G. LOL
Very true. One would think that they could take a page from Verizon's roll out playbook here. It took AT&T ages to jump onto the 3G bandwagon. It's the best 3G right now, at least in my primary areas, but it took them until Verizon started rolling out 4G!
The_Decryptor said,
Are AT&T actually rolling out LTE Advanced though? There's lots of talk about plain LTE, which doesn't qualify as 4G.

They are doing plain LTE, like Verizon. I believe the body that controls what qualifies as "4G" has come out and vaguely allowed plain LTE to qualify as 4G--at least to the point where Verizon and AT&T can use the term without technically lying now.

The_Decryptor said,
You mean LTE Advanced, right? because plain LTE doesn't qualify as 4G.

Be quite. You are beating a dead horse. Either way you slice it LTE > HSPA+

Silver47 said,

Are you being serious? You do realise there is bugger all point in MS supporting LTE at the moment until the rest of the world deploys it?

Well, I guess thank god for 4G LTE Android devices. Speed is great in my area.

pickypg said,

They are doing plain LTE, like Verizon. I believe the body that controls what qualifies as "4G" has come out and vaguely allowed plain LTE to qualify as 4G--at least to the point where Verizon and AT&T can use the term without technically lying now.

CORRECTION! AT&T, T-Mobile, Verizon, & Sprint can call whatever 4G as of December 2010.

These so called "experts" (and believe me I use that term loosely) on this forum that will criticize 4G LTE as not true 4G are still clueless as to that is the best you are going to get for the foreseeable future. Show me something better that is being deployed. I DARE YOU!

UndergroundWire said,

CORRECTION! AT&T, T-Mobile, Verizon, & Sprint can call whatever 4G as of December 2010.

These so called "experts" (and believe me I use that term loosely) on this forum that will criticize 4G LTE as not true 4G are still clueless as to that is the best you are going to get for the foreseeable future. Show me something better that is being deployed. I DARE YOU!

Just because it is the best available now and for the foreseeable future does not mean that it has to be branded 4G. Originally 4G was not going to apply to LTE not because LTE could not make up the necessary speeds, but because many of the parts that defined that original spec of what was 4G was not met by LTE.

Remember, these terms (2G, 3G, 4G) are generational terms, and a change from one generation to another can mean more than just faster speeds, but also how calls and data are to be handled

Sraf said,

Just because it is the best available now and for the foreseeable future does not mean that it has to be branded 4G. Originally 4G was not going to apply to LTE not because LTE could not make up the necessary speeds, but because many of the parts that defined that original spec of what was 4G was not met by LTE.

Remember, these terms (2G, 3G, 4G) are generational terms, and a change from one generation to another can mean more than just faster speeds, but also how calls and data are to be handled

What I said originally is still correct. That is the label it is given, 4G LTE. I really don't care about your thoughts on what you want to call it. I still stand by my original statement IF IT IS NOT 4G LTE, IT'S NOT WORTH IT. END OF STORY.

UndergroundWire said,

What I said originally is still correct. That is the label it is given, 4G LTE. I really don't care about your thoughts on what you want to call it. I still stand by my original statement IF IT IS NOT 4G LTE, IT'S NOT WORTH IT. END OF STORY.

The argument is simply about the labeling of the tech as being 4G. It was not planned to be 4G from the outset, and the complaints from the carriers were just so they could have a new marketing buzzword. LTE is fast, it is the best we will have for a while, giving or taking away the 4G label does not change that

/HSPA+ is also not 4G

UndergroundWire said,

What I said originally is still correct. That is the label it is given, 4G LTE. I really don't care about your thoughts on what you want to call it. I still stand by my original statement IF IT IS NOT 4G LTE, IT'S NOT WORTH IT. END OF STORY.

Good, so you agree then, you stand by your statement, everyone else will stand by theirs

neo158 said,

Good, so you agree then, you stand by your statement, everyone else will stand by theirs

I think you meant to say "I (neo158) will stand by my statement, everyone else (including UndergroundWire) will stand by the FACTS."

Following a detailed evaluation against stringent technical and operational criteria, ITU has determined that “LTE-Advanced” and “WirelessMAN-Advanced” should be accorded the official designation of IMT-Advanced. As the most advanced technologies currently defined for global wireless mobile broadband communications, IMT-Advanced is considered as “4G”, although it is recognized that this term, while undefined, may also be applied to the forerunners of these technologies, LTE and WiMax, and to other evolved 3G technologies providing a substantial level of improvement in performance and capabilities with respect to the initial third generation systems now deployed. The detailed specifications of the IMT-Advanced technologies will be provided in a new ITU-R Recommendation expected in early 2012.

Just saying

Source (straight from the horse's mouth): http://www.itu.int/net/pressof...press_releases/2010/48.aspx

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