AT&T confirms it will offer Nokia Lumia 920 and Lumia 820

It was only yesterday that news emerged suggesting that AT&T might be about to confirm today that it would be carrying Nokia's new flagship Windows Phone 8 handset, the Lumia 920. That rumour turned out to be slightly wide of the mark, as AT&T has just confirmed that it will not only offer the Lumia 920 exclusively in the US, but that it will additionally stock the Lumia 820.

A post by Ben Rudolph (aka 'Ben The PC Guy') on the Windows Phone Blog reveals that the Lumia 920 will be available in AT&T stores in red, black and white; if you're after the canary yellow or cyan models (yep, AT&T will be offering cyan!), you'll have to order your handset online.

The Lumia 820 will be available in black only, but the handset features interchangeable colour 'shells', along with an additional shell option that enables the 820 to be wirelessly charged, like its bigger brother.

Predictably, perhaps, there's no details on how much either device will cost, and the only information regarding availability is that both devices will go on sale in November. 

News that the 920 will be exclusive to AT&T will no doubt disappoint those on Verizon in particular, who will have been hoping to get their paws on the mighty new Lumia. Verizon has made no secret of its renewed commitment to Windows Phone in recent months though, so customers of Big Red will hopefully still have some sweet new WP8 handsets to look forward to in the weeks and months ahead.

Source and image: Windows Phone Blog

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I really don't think having phones on exclusive carries is very good for the Windows Phone Ecosystem. Its not like most people are going to switch for this phone.

Tis a shame, the features of the 920 over the HTX 8X were enough for me to break away from the Apple ecosystem...Verizon besides the diminished Alltel is the only big carrier in my area and has both 3G and LTE service.

My upgrade comes available Sunday...not sure to wait it out to see if a 921 or 922 show up on VZW or just keep going with the system I am already on..

Oh and only 16GB storage on the 8X with no Micro SD card slot? Yeah I need more than 16GB HTC...Nokia had it right at 32GB for me as that is what I have on my iPhone 4. If you are going to have no SD card slot at least make a model with more than 16GB or multiple...

Edited by Martog, Oct 4 2012, 3:40pm :

Complete BS!!!!
They need to look at how much market share Apple received once AT&T lost exclusivity. And, as pointed out if the general community was waiting and showing a ton of anticipation for this phone it might make sense to be exclusive. But given Nokia's current financial struggles and MS's desire to make Windows 8, Phone 8, and Surface a huge success they should be offering this up to as many people as possibly.

Since Verizon is the largest carrier in the US you'd think it would be very obvious to offer these phones on that network. As much as I want to go the Windows Phone route I will will most likely be going to a new Android device, or maybe this will be the reason I decide to jump to the iPhone.

Guess I'll wait till MS's big pitch at the end of the month and hope VZW comes out with some news between now and then, maybe announcing the 922. Don't care what you call it just deliver one of the best phones to your customers for once!!

AT&T was the largest carrier at the time of the iPhone launch and the carrier willing to put up with Apple's demands. However, VZW is now the largest carrier and I think HTC and Samsung see that and will go both networks to get the largest audience.

Martog said,
AT&T was the largest carrier at the time of the iPhone launch and the carrier willing to put up with Apple's demands. However, VZW is now the largest carrier and I think HTC and Samsung see that and will go both networks to get the largest audience.

Verizon was always big. Actually Apple was negotiating with them too but Verizon didn't accept Apple's deal.

AtriusNY said,

Verizon was always big. Actually Apple was negotiating with them too but Verizon didn't accept Apple's deal.

And lucky for VZW the Droid brand took off. Though even going for the iPhone back then was a gamble for any carrier to take on, and it did pay off. I just think more carriers the better. I am not overly fond of AT&T but I cannot even get service so they are out of the question and Alltel, while cheaper than VZW, does not have the handset line up.

I'm surprised yellow isn't available in store, considering that's the colour Nokia have been promoting the Lumia 920 in the most

Calum said,
I'm surprised yellow isn't available in store, considering that's the colour Nokia have been promoting the Lumia 920 in the most

They should see if they can promote the yellow one on PBS with Big Bird.

It is possible that they didn't want to manufacture a CDMA version so that they can only 1 model for the whole world. Choosing AT&T over T-Mobile makes sense in that case.

AtriusNY said,
It is possible that they didn't want to manufacture a CDMA version so that they can only 1 model for the whole world. Choosing AT&T over T-Mobile makes sense in that case.

And why needs to be either on or the others? Nokia needs sales not exclusivities....

AtriusNY said,
It is possible that they didn't want to manufacture a CDMA version so that they can only 1 model for the whole world. Choosing AT&T over T-Mobile makes sense in that case.

It has CDMA capability.

WCDMA Band V (850)
WCDMA Band VIII (900)
WCDMA Band II (1900)
WCDMA Band I (2100)

Verizon uses 850 and 1900 which the phone supports, so it is not that. And it supports the right LTE frequencies for VZW's TE as well.

I'm guessing AT&T paid them off pretty good to do this since at least the HTC will be on VZW and maybe the Samsung..AT&T did state they sold more WP7 devices than other carriers, but VZW only had one so not that hard to do so...

It is a shame, I really was looking forward to a 920 but I do not have AT&T service where I am, just the nation's largest 3G and LTE network...good job AT&T

Martog said,

It has CDMA capability.

WCDMA Band V (850)
WCDMA Band VIII (900)
WCDMA Band II (1900)
WCDMA Band I (2100)

Verizon uses 850 and 1900 which the phone supports, so it is not that. And it supports the right LTE frequencies for VZW's TE as well.

I'm guessing AT&T paid them off pretty good to do this since at least the HTC will be on VZW and maybe the Samsung..AT&T did state they sold more WP7 devices than other carriers, but VZW only had one so not that hard to do so...

It is a shame, I really was looking forward to a 920 but I do not have AT&T service where I am, just the nation's largest 3G and LTE network...good job AT&T


Sorry, but no. WCDMA is not CDMA. WCDMA is a variant that is the tech behind UMTS. CDMA(2000) or EV-DO is what Verizon and Sprint use and is completely different and does require different hardware. It requires a different modem type and it doesn't use a SIM slot. It's not as easy as you think.

Martog said,

I'm guessing AT&T paid them off pretty good to do this since at least the HTC will be on VZW and maybe the Samsung..AT&T did state they sold more WP7 devices than other carriers, but VZW only had one so not that hard to do so...

Exactly. AT&T had by far the most Windows Phones, as well as the best Windows Phones. So, of course they sold the most.

I really wish they hadn't gone with the glossy finish. I am wanting to switch from being a lifelong iPhone user, however the 3G and 3GS both had the glossy plastic finish and I found them to be my least favorite looking iPhone models.

Can't blame Nokia for not wanting to make a phone with completely different internals for the only two operators in the world (aside Japan) who just couldn't use GSM like the rest of the world.

Ambroos said,
Can't blame Nokia for not wanting to make a phone with completely different internals for the only two operators in the world (aside Japan) who just couldn't use GSM like the rest of the world.

Is there any pros and cons with two different set ups?

That must be really annoying when you travel.

WooHoo!!! said,

Is there any pros and cons with two different set ups?

That must be really annoying when you travel.


All I know is that AT&T is the only US operator using sort of standard frequencies and systems, T-Mobile mostly but not for 3G. It doesn't matter where I take my European phone, I'll always be able to call, surf and almost always be able to use 3G. Don't even bother trying to use a Verizon or Sprint phone outside the US, it just won't work since the networks use a completely different technology.

So yes, it's a major issue for anyone who travels. Also for freedom. My phone is completely unlocked. I was in Germany a while ago, and surfing there using my regular plan would have been extremely expensive. So I picked up a prepaid 2GB card for €10 ($13) and just stuck the SIM card in my phone. Boom, internet. Configuration was all automatic too. Try doing that with just any US phone.

Ambroos said,
Can't blame Nokia for not wanting to make a phone with completely different internals for the only two operators in the world (aside Japan) who just couldn't use GSM like the rest of the world.

I couldn't agree with you more. Bloody US bitching about their CDMA-ness.

Ambroos said,
Can't blame Nokia for not wanting to make a phone with completely different internals for the only two operators in the world (aside Japan) who just couldn't use GSM like the rest of the world.

So maybe we're getting a 922, then. Some leaked product sheets for VZW showed an 822, not an 820.

And AT&T's one image says "The Nokia Lumia 820, exclusively from AT&T". And the shots do show an 822 on VZW.....soooooo......

The 920 is exclusive to AT&T according to the press release.

“Exclusive to our customers and featuring unique innovations in imaging technology, wireless charging and a bright, sensitive display - all on the nation's largest 4G network - the Lumia 920 will be one of the hottest phones for the holidays,” said Jeff Bradley, senior vice president - Devices and Developer Services, AT&T Mobility.

http://www.att.com/gen/press-r...e=consumer%7Cmobile-devices

thealexweb said,
Is the back of the 920 plastic? What happened to the good back of the 800?

It's exactly the same material (polycarbonate) as 800, but this time with glossy colors. Except for the black version which is matte like 800 (cyan might be matte too). Looks much better in person than on these pics.

Fred77 said,

It's exactly the same material (polycarbonate) as 800, but this time with glossy colors. Except for the black version which is matte like 800 (cyan might be matte too). Looks much better in person than on these pics.

Reply? In the videos I've seen of the 920 it just looks like cheap plastic thanks to the finish

thealexweb said,
Reply? In the videos I've seen of the 920 it just looks like cheap plastic thanks to the finish
With the exception of the black and gray Lumia 920s, they all have the same glossy finish as the white Lumia 900.

They're all polycarbonate bodies, but for some reason they chose the glossy feel as the primary one this go-around.

Yeah great decision... if you hate selling phones!

I'm not sure if I'm more ****ed off as a T-moble US customer looking to buy a 920 or as a NOK shareholder. Either way, its a terrible decision.

I'll be very upset if Verizon doesn't get this. I have three friends on that network that want to switch over to the Lumia line, but don't want to come over to AT&T. ****ty.

Very bad news. Exclusivity only works when everyone is clamouring for the product (e.g. the iPhone) enough to switch networks. Beyond techies like you and me, most people aren't waiting for the Lumia, so its being unavailable on their network of choice will simply cause them to pass over it. Here's hoping it's not an Orange/EE exclusive in the UK as I want to get it on O2...

Timble said,
Very bad news. Exclusivity only works when everyone is clamouring for the product (e.g. the iPhone) enough to switch networks. Beyond techies like you and me, most people aren't waiting for the Lumia, so its being unavailable on their network of choice will simply cause them to pass over it. Here's hoping it's not an Orange/EE exclusive in the UK as I want to get it on O2...

It made sense to make the 900 exclusize since AT&T made it a "hero" device and backed it with their own marketing dollars, but WP8 will be able to stand its ground and make a push on its own. You dont need exclusivity with an amazing device like the 920. All they're doing is limiting their customer pool.

shamburg said,

It made sense to make the 900 exclusize since AT&T made it a "hero" device and backed it with their own marketing dollars, but WP8 will be able to stand its ground and make a push on its own. You dont need exclusivity with an amazing device like the 920. All they're doing is limiting their customer pool.

Agreed. Lumia 920 should be on as many carriers as possible unless AT&T is going to make it worth it for Nokia to keep it exclusive like that.

Enron said,

Agreed. Lumia 920 should be on as many carriers as possible unless AT&T is going to make it worth it for Nokia to keep it exclusive like that.

IMO regardless of how much AT&T is willing to pay for the exclusivity Nokia would be much better off with investors and bankers showing the highest possible number of units sold.

Timble said,
hoping it's not an Orange/EE exclusive in the UK as I want to get it on O2...

EE have said it will be an exclusive but they mentioned LTE in the statement, which leaves open the possibility of a non-LTE version (if Nokia decide to make one). I was told by Vodafone though that they will not be stocking the 920 (they couldn't say about the 8X & ATIV S, which to me suggests they will have it but not ready to announce dates / prices yet).

primortal said,
Oh Verizon Wireless were the frell are you! I really don't want to switch to AT&T.

Verizon should have the lumia 820, the HTC 8X (probably the 8S at some point) and the Samsung Ativ S as well. Sure it sucks not to get the 920, for now because I expect verizon will get it's own tweaked version (922 maybe?) in the future.

GP007 said,
Verizon should have the lumia 820, the HTC 8X (probably the 8S at some point) and the Samsung Ativ S as well. Sure it sucks not to get the 920, for now because I expect verizon will get it's own tweaked version (922 maybe?) in the future.

As an existing Lumia 900 customer dying to get off of AT&T, the Lumia 820 is not enough of an upgrade. This is incredibly disappointing because I had been hoping to switch to Verizon this November, with the other three people on my family plan, and pick up Lumia's for everyone.

Nokia, and Microsoft in particular, should know better than sticking with AT&T. Without a single exception, I have yet to go into an AT&T store where they were not proactively pushing people away from WP. Clearly, that's not everyone in the store, but I have seen it too frequently that a bad phone unit gets blamed on Windows Phone (usually when I tag along with a friend that I suckered into WP ) rather than that phone itself (usually HTC's busted GPS). Along with that, there's just the random bashing of the OS as WM6's successor, and usually the ecosystem (which is the fairest thing to bash).

And it's that latter part that scares me about shifting to Verizon to pick up the HTC phones: busted GPS units with SLCD2 screens that I feel are washed out. And I refuse to go to Samsung considering that their phone is enormous, and the last two Samsung's (Focus and Focus S) I've owned have felt like bitterly cheap plastic.

Hopefully there's some big surprise Lumia 922 announcement for Verizon, but it's even a mistake that T-Mobile isn't getting the Lumia 920 considering how willing to support WP that T-Mobile has been.

GP007 said,

Verizon should have the lumia 820, the HTC 8X (probably the 8S at some point) and the Samsung Ativ S as well. Sure it sucks not to get the 920, for now because I expect verizon will get it's own tweaked version (922 maybe?) in the future.

Hopefully the future is not sometime next year. I don't want to settle for the 820 (822) and I had my share of HTC phones its time for something new.

GP007 said,

Verizon should have the lumia 820, the HTC 8X (probably the 8S at some point) and the Samsung Ativ S as well. Sure it sucks not to get the 920, for now because I expect verizon will get it's own tweaked version (922 maybe?) in the future.

Daniel Rubino of WPCentral and Tom Warren of The Verge seem to think that Nokia will announce variants of the 920 & 820 on Verizon soon

primortal said,
Oh Verizon Wireless were the frell are you! I really don't want to switch to AT&T.

The more i think about it, the more willing i am to switch to ATT. I was with a friend travelling in the mountains of Colorado last weekend. He has a 4G LTE ipad on VZ and an iPhone 4S on ATT. And although ATT has much less LTE coverage, the HSPA fallback network is so much better than Verizon's 3G.

ATT had LTE in my home city, and I like their fall back HSPA network.

This is hard for me to say, but i think I may switch.

Money isn't an issue because work pays my current VZ plan I'm may just jump on my bosses ATT family share

gohatters said,

The more i think about it, the more willing i am to switch to ATT. I was with a friend travelling in the mountains of Colorado last weekend. He has a 4G LTE ipad on VZ and an iPhone 4S on ATT. And although ATT has much less LTE coverage, the HSPA fallback network is so much better than Verizon's 3G.

ATT had LTE in my home city, and I like their fall back HSPA network.

This is hard for me to say, but i think I may switch.

Money isn't an issue because work pays my current VZ plan I'm may just jump on my bosses ATT family share

Check first.

I have AT&T with LTE in my home city. It's pretty fast, when it works. But, being AT&T, it's spotty at best; the majority of the time, I do have HSPA+ to fall back onto, but that's not as impressive as practically always having LTE.

Just yesterday, I could not send or receive texts reliably all day while I was at work (I had half-to-full bars the whole time, but I'd receive my texts in batches throughout the day). It usually works fine at my office, but this happens frequently enough that it bothers me.

Worse, I regularly have no signal while driving on major interstates, and it's spotty at best while riding on trains, even throughout New York.

AT&T has successfully lost me as a customer. They actually have decent customer service, but their phone service is just not worth it. Between dropped calls, hugely delayed texts (hours, not minutes), and no service in areas that should have it (major areas and major roads), I hope that Verizon's miss-billings don't send me crying back, again.