Best billion dollar ad-campaign Samsung ever had

It's Sunday, so up for a bit of light reading?

If you haven't been living under a rock for the past few weeks you would have heard about the Apple vs Samsung stuff that was (sort of) resolved earlier this week with Apple winning, they also managed to take Samsung to the cleaners to the tune of $1,049,343,000.00 dollars.

Samsung has already said it would appeal, so it's not game over yet. 

It's a win for Apple, and even Tim Cook said that "values had won", but if we go by the typical dude on the street, Samsung just may have come out on top. Enrique Gutierrez, the CTO/Co-Founder of Digithrive and CTO of TechZulu makes this clear in a post on Google+.

Looks cool, half the price of an Apple.

I'm sitting in a Starbucks doing random whatever over an iced americano. While I waiting for my drink, I watched a guy with his friend, pick up a newspaper; and start to remark on the Samsung Apple verdict.

Guy: "Wait, so what they're saying is, Samsung is the same as Apple?"
Friend: "I know, right? Makes me think twice about how much I paid for my Mac Book"
Guy: "Seriously"

Not 10 minutes later, a husband and wife, same newspaper:

Husband: "... Samsung's iPad is the same as Apple's iPad, and I paid how much for the Apple one? Honey, I told you they were a ripoff", after looking up the Samsung tablet on his iPhone.
Wife: "Oh wow," looking at the screen, "... that's a lot cheaper. Think we can return it?"

I put my Samsung QX410 on my table, and started to plug in, when he leans over to me, "Sorry, you don't mind if I ask, how much did you pay for your Samsung laptop?"

"Oh, no worries, it was $700." I replied. 

I watched shock overcome his face, like actual shock. He looked at me, blankly, for an awkward amount of time, "Mind if I have a look?" he asked. 

So, I obliged, and showed him a few things. He commented on Windows 7, so I opened up my virtual machine of OS/X... By the time the conversation was over, he was ready to kick Cupertino in the nuts, I think.

... Now, the punchline: 

I'm writing this post after the FOURTH group of Starbucks patrons have made the connection that Samsung is now the same as Apple. They don't know the details, they don't really care, what they know is Apple is saying that Samsung is the same as Apple ... and with one simple Google Search, you get prices that are basically half for what seems to be the same products -- for nearly everything. 

Two of these groups (including the husband/wife) asked me about my Samsung laptop, the second group noticed my Galaxy phone (also by Samsung)... Best billion dollar ad-campaign Samsung ever had.


It isn't surprising how a case like this could be misinterpreted on the street by someone not following the case closely. All these people know is that Samsung products are way cheaper than Apple products.

So, who really has the moral victory?

Source & Image: Enrique Gutierrez on G+
Thanks for sending in the tip greenwizard88!

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In the aftermath of the verdict, Samsung shares have dropped 7.5 percent, costing 12 Billion in Market Value.

So it's a 13 Billion Dollar ad-campaign, so far.

HTC shares down as well, guess that Android grass isn't as green as some thought.

fake or not, good point though. It could be plausible. like lukeslife stated. WAYY overpriced. I think these days people want quality not a name. but if they can have both name and quality.. then good for them.

None of this really happened though. Seems monstrously far fetched that all those people in the same place randomly had these conversations. If anyone is foolish enough to drop money on an inferior product from Samsung though, the joke will be on them I type this on my iPhone 4, while the plasticy creaky, cheap Galaxy S3 sits on the floor next to me

"Looks cool, half the price of an Apple."

I have seen many cools notebooks cheaper than Apple but they all have a problem : runs windows.

denisvj said,
"Looks cool, half the price of an Apple."

I have seen many cools notebooks cheaper than Apple but they all have a problem : runs windows.

And physically in every single way, inferior

love all the replys saying this is fake. I run into the same kind of people on a daily basis. is this story fake? maybe but there are many people like this. and if you call this fake, pro've it.

techbeck said,
love all the replys saying this is fake. I run into the same kind of people on a daily basis. is this story fake? maybe but there are many people like this. and if you call this fake, pro've it.

Prove you run into people like this. No? Oh yeah, you don't.

Spirit Dave said,

Prove you run into people like this. No? Oh yeah, you don't.

With comments like this, just go away. I also have nothing to prove to you.

techbeck said,

With comments like this, just go away. I also have nothing to prove to you.

Well, don't expect proof the other way round then, you massive imbecile. lol

The vast majority of my non techie friends, have nothing but disdain to Apple regarding the verdict. My best friend who had everything Apple, has sold his iMac and will be switching from his iPhone to Android in January. My Uncle is ready to abandon the Apple ship as well, a coworker switched from her iPhone to a Lumia and the list just goes on. When discussing the verdict of the US court they get hateful towards Apple for even suing in the first place. They do however agree more with the Korean verdict than the US one.

Phantom Spaceman said,
The vast majority of my non techie friends, have nothing but disdain to Apple regarding the verdict. My best friend who had everything Apple, has sold his iMac and will be switching from his iPhone to Android in January. My Uncle is ready to abandon the Apple ship as well, a coworker switched from her iPhone to a Lumia and the list just goes on. When discussing the verdict of the US court they get hateful towards Apple for even suing in the first place. They do however agree more with the Korean verdict than the US one.

Wow. You mean within two days, all these people has or are in the process of abandoning their Apple product(s) and switching to alternatives? They even know what the verdict was in South Korea when most don't even know there was an ongoing case there? What a wonderful fictional story, bro.

AWilliams87 said,

Wow. You mean within two days, all these people has or are in the process of abandoning their Apple product(s) and switching to alternatives? They even know what the verdict was in South Korea when most don't even know there was an ongoing case there? What a wonderful fictional story, bro.

Yeah I'm lying I have every reason to do so. No they were upset at the US verdict I then pointed them to articles about the Korean verdict. Also they're on my facebook where I've posted articles about both verdicts. My best friend has been tired of Apple's crap but this was really the nail in the coffin. If you don't believe me then fine, but I've got no reason to go spouting off nonsense. Apple provides competition and keeps other companies on their toes and there's nothing wrong with that.

Phantom Spaceman said,
The vast majority of my non techie friends, have nothing but disdain to Apple regarding the verdict. My best friend who had everything Apple, has sold his iMac and will be switching from his iPhone to Android in January. My Uncle is ready to abandon the Apple ship as well, a coworker switched from her iPhone to a Lumia and the list just goes on. When discussing the verdict of the US court they get hateful towards Apple for even suing in the first place. They do however agree more with the Korean verdict than the US one.

Ooooohhhh tut tut... Bad Apple. Hmm, I know, I am so passionate (being a "non techie") that I care enough about a random lawsuit that has f**k all to do with me, but I am going to sell all the stuff I bought because it was awesome and go and buy inferior products as a sign of protest! Yes indeed!!!

Give me a f**king break. What a massive load of bull. Dude, you probably don't even have any uncles or non techie friends. If you're going to make up preposterous statements to prove your own views on Apple, and to make yourself feel better because you cheaped out and bought a sh*t phone and computer, at least form a more intelligent lie

Spirit Dave said,

Ooooohhhh tut tut... Bad Apple. Hmm, I know, I am so passionate (being a "non techie") that I care enough about a random lawsuit that has f**k all to do with me, but I am going to sell all the stuff I bought because it was awesome and go and buy inferior products as a sign of protest! Yes indeed!!!

Give me a f**king break. What a massive load of bull. Dude, you probably don't even have any uncles or non techie friends. If you're going to make up preposterous statements to prove your own views on Apple, and to make yourself feel better because you cheaped out and bought a sh*t phone and computer, at least form a more intelligent lie

Form an intelligent lie? For what? An appletard poster-boy like you?

You display the perfect apple zealotry, you ARE an apple zealot because you have the predisposed notion that anything non apple branded is automatically "inferior".

Keep navigating that thick cloud of smug believing you have the better product, because, hey, it's more expensive and the "genius" that sold it to you was just as smug. So it has to be better, right?

Disgusting.

Yeah but a) they can't be Apple anymore - that's the whole point; and b) no one spends a billion dollars on an advertising campaign

Could have been fake, could have been real who knows. If it was real, i wouldn't have any problem believing it. Either way it was a fun read.

some time ago i was talking to a client in a organization who had an iphone for some time and was all happy and showing it to everybody (the animations, etc.)...until i show him my galaxy full of apps and all the things that i could do with it; when i asked him whats apps did he had in is phone he shrugs and very humbly told me "i didn't knew you could install aplications on it..i just used for making calls and read email". i was shocked. ( |)

See, that day i learned a lesson: people buy expensive phones based on what they friends/work collegues have and the more expensive, the merrier; that gives them a (false) sense of social status and the fact that they probally use less then 10% of the phones capabilities, it's not a problem... until someone shows that they payed 600€ or more for a phone just to make phone calls and read email (sometimes not even mail).

and i've had some friends asking me if they should buy a new s3 or an iphone, which i always reply with: going to use that for just making calls or are you going to use it for seeing email, internet access, play some games, getting some apps and all? if it's the first one, just buy a cheap nokia, because forking 700€ for a phone just to make calls is dumb.

edit: ah and people seem to forget things really quick or else you should remember that Apple until 2008 used to ship Macbooks in white plastic. shiny white plastic that is.

Remember, you guys know what's going on. Most of the world can give a rat's ass. So this article seems legit and true. Remember anything can happen, even if it is stupid or unheard of.

This article is nonsense. Samsung is just another Asian company flooding the market with cheap knock-offs of American products. Now that they've been exposed in court, you think people would be more inclined to buy them?

The typical Apple customer has a higher than average net-worth. They want the real deal and are willing to pay for it.

AWilliams87 said,
The typical Apple customer has a higher than average net-worth. They want the real deal and are willing to pay for it.
I see mostly the ghetto moms sporting iPhones because they think it makes them look dope. Word. :-P

AWilliams87 said,
This article is nonsense. Samsung is just another Asian company flooding the market with cheap knock-offs of American products. Now that they've been exposed in court, you think people would be more inclined to buy them?

The typical Apple customer has a higher than average net-worth. They want the real deal and are willing to pay for it.

Typical smug Apple (tard) fanboy dialogue.

"The typical Apple customer has a higher than average net-worth..."

Really? That's why most of them are always overdrawn on their bank accounts. There was an article about it, google it yourself because I don't spoon-feed fanboys who're accustomed to being spoon-fed by Apple.

javagreen said,

Typical smug Apple (tard) fanboy dialogue.

"The typical Apple customer has a higher than average net-worth..."

Really? That's why most of them are always overdrawn on their bank accounts. There was an article about it, google it yourself because I don't spoon-feed fanboys who're accustomed to being spoon-fed by Apple.


Haha. Well I don't own any Apple products nor am I a fanboy. But here's some of the links I found when I did a google search:
http://www.igetphone.com/a-sur...-income-than-android-users/

http://mashable.com/2009/10/05/mac-ownership-study/

http://blogs.wsj.com/digits/20...itz-and-retailers/?mod=e2tw

Now you can deny these studies, which I expect you to, and receive a lot of likes from this pro-Microsoft website, but the truth is the truth: Users are Apple products have higher income and prefer the real deal.

AWilliams87 said,

Haha. Well I don't own any Apple products nor am I a fanboy. But here's some of the links I found when I did a google search:
http://www.igetphone.com/a-sur...-income-than-android-users/

http://mashable.com/2009/10/05/mac-ownership-study/

http://blogs.wsj.com/digits/20...itz-and-retailers/?mod=e2tw

Now you can deny these studies, which I expect you to, and receive a lot of likes from this pro-Microsoft website, but the truth is the truth: Users are Apple products have higher income and prefer the real deal.

I can perform a "study" with selective areas and sum it up to be what I want it to be. The Apple butt-kissing is deafening ... perhaps the study which revealed that owning Apple products invokes religious-like sentiments is true after all.

50,000 years from now there'll be a Prometheus like expedition to locate Steve Jobs's RDF generator I tell ya.

javagreen said,

I can perform a "study" with selective areas and sum it up to be what I want it to be. The Apple butt-kissing is deafening ... perhaps the study which revealed that owning Apple products invokes religious-like sentiments is true after all.

50,000 years from now there'll be a Prometheus like expedition to locate Steve Jobs's RDF generator I tell ya.


So those who own Apple products don't have a higher than average income, despite what surveys and studies show? Is that what you're alluding to?

AWilliams87 said,

So those who own Apple products don't have a higher than average income, despite what surveys and studies show? Is that what you're alluding to?

All of these "studies" are US only. I'm sure I don't need to tell you that if it's true in the US does NOT mean it's the same around the rest of the world - I suppose you'll figure this out on your own? The article said the same was true about BlackBerry users too (in the US), btw.

My real life experiences have afforded me the opportunity to know and read/hear about countless people who's chosen non-Apple products, and it wasn't because of their price tags. Seems to me that you (and many others) take these "studies" far too seriously.

javagreen said,

All of these "studies" are US only. I'm sure I don't need to tell you that if it's true in the US does NOT mean it's the same around the rest of the world - I suppose you'll figure this out on your own? The article said the same was true about BlackBerry users too (in the US), btw.

My real life experiences have afforded me the opportunity to know and read/hear about countless people who's chosen non-Apple products, and it wasn't because of their price tags. Seems to me that you (and many others) take these "studies" far too seriously.


So do you or do you not believe users of Apple products have higher than average incomes?

Very true to the point here in this article. Who in their right mind would buy that over priced Apple crap is beyond me but you got die hard fans that just do not care to see the writing on the wall and will waste money on anything.

sava700 said,
Very true to the point here in this article. Who in their right mind would buy that over priced Apple crap is beyond me but you got die hard fans that just do not care to see the writing on the wall and will waste money on anything.

Maybe when Microsoft actually fixes their horribly crap operating system then I might consider a PC laptop as an alternative to my Mac. It doesn't matter how well OEM's make their hardware because at the end of the day the experience will be dictated by how well Microsoft executes their operating system which, as shown for the last 30 years, has been thoroughly crap.

Edit: I have laid out the problems I have with Windows - how about visiting the forums rather than being a one hit wonder news article poster.

Yeah, I really wouldn't underestimate a normal consumers intelligence. My aunt thought that the only smartphone was an iPhone, which she ended up purchasing because of that.

Shadier said,
Yeah, I really wouldn't underestimate a normal consumers intelligence. My aunt thought that the only smartphone was an iPhone, which she ended up purchasing because of that.

Exactly I know some people who wholeheartedly believe that the iPod was the first mp3 player.

howarang15 said,

Exactly I know some people who wholeheartedly believe that the iPod was the first mp3 player.

The winners are always the heroes, the losers...... well, they are the losers....

Thanks for sending in the tip greenwizard88!

Hey that's me!

On topic, I agree some of the quotes sound disengenuous, but I figure it's not the easiest thing in the world to capture quotes and write them down hours later, and get them to sound authentic. Seriously, try it. There's a reason not everyone's a script writer.

I really like this perspective. Although in many cases, it is obvious that many of Samsug's products are very much Apple inspired, and in some cases they are blatent copy. However, I am of the mind that our patent offices are kind of broken. Video games, which are another form of software and a multibillion dollar industry, has always had copying of user interfaces and even game style. But that grows the designs and makes them better.

Yes Apple, might have spent time designing the UI, but many elements in their designs I know are mash-ups of Flash designs I recall from the late to early 2000s. The fact that they can say the own elements like the bounce at the end of the list instead of their design as a who just drives me crazy. I have books that predate iOS devices that use "elastic UI" as examples for end of list items in a UI for prublishes like friendsofed, and any internet tutorial from before Flash MX. And the damages...

Either way, I think it is poetic justice that every day joe can come up with the billion dollar damages, and then the every day jane and jack can see this Apple win as proof that Apple over charges for products that have counterparts that are equal or better.

Great view of the situation!

Cheers

The appeal, in a different venue, will yield a different result--either a reversal, or both parties will come to some sort of "mutual understanding" whereby both come out ahead.

TsarNikky said,
The appeal, in a different venue, will yield a different result--either a reversal, or both parties will come to some sort of "mutual understanding" whereby both come out ahead.

Could you also tell us next week lottery numbers?
It might be reversed, confirmed or whatever but stating that "it will be" sounds puzzling to me.

Iridium said,
How douchey, what the hell is an iced americano? If its an iced coffee what muppet for stating the exact type.

Lol dude get a clue... Espresso with water is an americano. but i suppose espresso is still just coffee... right?

I am an actual Samsung mobile user. I have just purchased a Galaxy note and I can say from my experience when people see the phone that their immediate question is "wow that is a really nice phone, is that an Apple Iphone?" I then have to educate them that Apple is not the only maker of "smart phones", literally it has happened about 6 or 7 times in the last week I have had the phone. I purchased the phone because I don't make a lot of phone calls but wanted something that I could hack and mod and had a usable screen size to RDP into PCs and servers for work but would also fit in my pocket. I don't buy Apple products, the only people I know who do are people who don't know a lot about computers.

No ones ever asked me what I'm using in a coffee shop, they're usually to busy drinking coffee and discussing what timmys being doing or how work is **** rather then call out to complete strangers.

Even if true it's completely stupid... 4 groups up to 8 people..wow!! you could multiply this by 10,000 and only IF they went out and bought Samsung products they still wouldn't be close to scratching the surface of a billion dollars.

What I have found from lurking on a number of (non-technical) websites is that the majority of comments (and highest rated comments) were very negative towards Apple, using language that normally only gets reserved for Microsoft. Compare that to last year and it does make me wonder if the tide has started to turn against Apple; maybe the reality distortion field has weakened since Dear Leader died?

Pygmy_Hippo said,
What I have found from lurking on a number of (non-technical) websites is that the majority of comments (and highest rated comments) were very negative towards Apple, using language that normally only gets reserved for Microsoft. Compare that to last year and it does make me wonder if the tide has started to turn against Apple; maybe the reality distortion field has weakened since Dear Leader died?

It takes a while for the tide to turn. But when it turns, it turns pretty quickly.

Microsoft was considered the scrappy upstart until the early 1990s, fighting Big Bad IBM. Just a few years later, they were the big bully. And by 1999, hatred of Microsoft was almost universal.

To date, Apple has gotten away with business moves that would've gotten Microsoft crucified in 1999. The question is: how long will that last?

Neowin, I think your site is malfunctioning. A reallllly long Google ad appeared in the middle of the article.

Enron said,
Neowin, I think your site is malfunctioning. A reallllly long Google ad appeared in the middle of the article.

And Google paying for an ad that prominently features a Windows 7 notebook sure makes a lot of sense.

Not a big fan of Apple or Samsung ... I prefer a desktop PC over a laptop. If I got a laptop I'll select one that suits my needs. I don't purchase something , just because it looks thin and pretty. Tablet devices are too high and over rated.

If if Samsung gets it over turned, Apples going to refile or appeal the ruling. An if it stands, Samsung will go to a higher court. Only winner are the lawyers ...

The problem is that Samsung products aren't that much cheaper anymore. Their lousy tablets will cost you the same or even more as the newest iPad, but they don't offer anything which makes it a better product. Even the new cheap Nexus is much better, and costs only 200 dollars instead of 500.

The same can be said about their phones. The newest Galaxy S3 costs almost the same as the iPhone 4s.

The Ultrabooks are also not cheap. The MacBook Air is defiantly the best 'Ultrabook' there is according to reviewers, and it's even cheaper then a comparable Samsung ultrabook.

Dannydekr said,
The same can be said about their phones. The newest Galaxy S3 costs almost the same as the iPhone 4s.

You have the gall to be outraged that a phone that's come out more recently and is higher spec'd than the iPhone 4S is "costs almost the same" as the iPhone 4S? Are you ****ing serious?

bj55555 said,
You have the gall to be outraged that a phone that's come out more recently and is higher spec'd than the iPhone 4S is "costs almost the same" as the iPhone 4S? Are you ****ing serious?

Come back and behave like a smug pr-ck when Samsung provides Android 4.x update for the Samsung Galaxy S which was released March 2010. Apple released the iPhone 4 approximately 3 months after Samsung released the Galaxy S and ask yourself which one is still receiving updates - clue for the clueless, it sure as heck ain't the Samsung Galaxy S.

Oh, and btw, when are customers of the S3 finally going to receive the update to Android 4.1.1? or is this yet another move to screw customers over and tell them if they want a software update they're going to have to buy a new phone?

bj55555 said,

You have the gall to be outraged that a phone that's come out more recently and is higher spec'd than the iPhone 4S is "costs almost the same" as the iPhone 4S? Are you ****ing serious?

When the iPhone 5 is released it is going to cost the exact same amount (which will be in a few weeks). Does your argument hold up then?

DomZ said,

When the iPhone 5 is released it is going to cost the exact same amount (which will be in a few weeks). Does your argument hold up then?

Sure let's talk about a phone that hasn't even been announced yet and could be just as lame-ass an upgrade like the iPhone 4S was.

Mr Nom Nom's said,

Come back and behave like a smug pr-ck when Samsung provides Android 4.x update for the Samsung Galaxy S which was released March 2010. Apple released the iPhone 4 approximately 3 months after Samsung released the Galaxy S and ask yourself which one is still receiving updates - clue for the clueless, it sure as heck ain't the Samsung Galaxy S.

Oh, and btw, when are customers of the S3 finally going to receive the update to Android 4.1.1? or is this yet another move to screw customers over and tell them if they want a software update they're going to have to buy a new phone?

Is that all you've got? Pitiful....

He was talking about the Galaxy S3, which is significantly better than the iPhone 4 AND the 4S and still retails for about the same price as the 4S. You get better hardware and better returns for your investment.

Oh, and if you really want to play that game - I can guarantee you that the S3 will be getting atleast the next 2 iterations of Android updates, and the community will take care of the rest. Even after 5 years, I can flash a custom ROM of whichever the current version of Android is at that time and move on. The S3's hardware is VERY beefy and would be able to handle it. Heck, the ORIGINAL Galaxy S can run Jellybean as well.

Now, tell me, can you do the same with the iPhone 3? Iphone 3GS (when the updates stop post iOS 6) The iPhone 4? 4S?

Wait a minute... I forgot... you CANNOT flash anything custom, hell, you can't even flash OFFICIAL Apple Firmwares once they stop signing it.

I feel sorry for you, bro.

Edited by javagreen, Aug 27 2012, 9:07am :

Wow, that story is just lame fairytale of an anti-Apple camp representative.

What is even more strange is that NeoWin has fallen for it and published such a piece of rubbish.

I call BS. I couldn't help but imaging Jon Lovitz narrating this and throwing in a few "Yeah, that's the ticket!". Although if true, it would be nice to see Apple punished a bit, I'm not of fan of stifling innovation over patent technicalities.

don't know if the above is true but one thing i can confirm is that a lot of people have sympathy or now dislike apple because of the courts and lawyers.

Non techies have commented that apple are no longer interested in making definitive or innovative products but are just centring their resources on lawyers

Myself i like apple products but i don't like this patent crap, to win in the marketplace design and features should be king, not trying to stifle the competition.

REM2000 said,
don't know if the above is true but one thing i can confirm is that a lot of people have sympathy or now dislike apple because of the courts and lawyers.

Non techies have commented that apple are no longer interested in making definitive or innovative products but are just centring their resources on lawyers

Myself i like apple products but i don't like this patent crap, to win in the marketplace design and features should be king, not trying to stifle the competition.

REM2000, the problem is not Apple, the problem is the US patent law and the Patent office, whatever that bunch of morons call themselves. Simple as that.

It goes like this: Apple (or anyone else) applies for a patent for something, say sliced bread. The morons approve it. Someone else starts slicing bread, which is clearly infringement of the 'sliced bread' patent.

Now Apple has two options, either go after them or do nothing.

If they do nothing, the next person/company who starts slicing bread will have a legal stance on the fact that Apple didn't protect it, meaning it's OK for the rest of the world to use it. It's as simple as that.

Apple MUST protect their patents, or else they'll lose them.

The problem is, again, the bunch of morons who allow crap like sliced bread and vegemite sandwich to be registered as patents, trademarks, IPs, ideas,thought or whatever.

It's very true in that Apple must protect what they actually do innovate or invent. The problem is that they've realized they can troll the f**** out of the patent system because they're an American company, and the justice system is all too happy to let them grab up everything.

Stelex said,

REM2000, the problem is not Apple, the problem is the US patent law and the Patent office, whatever that bunch of morons call themselves. Simple as that.

It goes like this: Apple (or anyone else) applies for a patent for something, say sliced bread. The morons approve it. Someone else starts slicing bread, which is clearly infringement of the 'sliced bread' patent.

Now Apple has two options, either go after them or do nothing.

If they do nothing, the next person/company who starts slicing bread will have a legal stance on the fact that Apple didn't protect it, meaning it's OK for the rest of the world to use it. It's as simple as that.

Apple MUST protect their patents, or else they'll lose them.

The problem is, again, the bunch of morons who allow crap like sliced bread and vegemite sandwich to be registered as patents, trademarks, IPs, ideas,thought or whatever.

Only half true.

I'd also question the company in question who applied for such rubbish patents in the first place. The patent needs to be 'applied for ' first, to be approved

So yeah, Apple is a (huge) part of the problem - if not the only problem.

Well it is an amusing attempt to tell a story, doubt it is true, but funny all the same. What we all forget is we are all brand whores who will purchase what we perceive to be quality and the price has little to do with it.

If you can hold your hand on your heart and say you never bought Nike or Adidas stuff or similar then you delude yourself. So no, spending $1 billion is not the best marketing Samsung could ever do and in a few weeks time the headlines will be filled with record pre-orders for the new iPhone and this case will be a footnote on the second page of google results.

Depicus said,
Well it is an amusing attempt to tell a story, doubt it is true, but funny all the same. What we all forget is we are all brand whores who will purchase what we perceive to be quality and the price has little to do with it.

If you can hold your hand on your heart and say you never bought Nike or Adidas stuff or similar then you delude yourself. So no, spending $1 billion is not the best marketing Samsung could ever do and in a few weeks time the headlines will be filled with record pre-orders for the new iPhone and this case will be a footnote on the second page of google results.

I have bought the above named brands, but not because of the name. I can honestly say I have never bought anything because of the brand - I have always bought based on cost.

metallithrax said,

I have bought the above named brands, but not because of the name. I can honestly say I have never bought anything because of the brand - I have always bought based on cost.

I like to tell myself the same but think about if for a while and check your place for brands that you know you could have got cheaper elsewhere.

people underestimate non techy folks stupidity to techy stuff (I'm not trying to be insulting here, and stupidity is harsh yes, but the levels of misinterpretation and outright wrongness of many folks out there makes me err on the side of calling it stupidity).

I deal with this all the time in my work and with friends and family, of which most are none techy and I'm constantly amazed how wrong people can be about things, but the real kicker is when you try to correct them and explain - they just do not WANT TO KNOW, they stare blankly at you with a glazed over look like its rocket science and none of their misinterpretations are changed one bit!

duddit2 said,
people underestimate non techy folks stupidity to techy stuff (I'm not trying to be insulting here, and stupidity is harsh yes, but the levels of misinterpretation and outright wrongness of many folks out there makes me err on the side of calling it stupidity).

I deal with this all the time in my work and with friends and family, of which most are none techy and I'm constantly amazed how wrong people can be about things, but the real kicker is when you try to correct them and explain - they just do not WANT TO KNOW, they stare blankly at you with a glazed over look like its rocket science and none of their misinterpretations are changed one bit!


agreed 100% - I've had exactly the same experiences myself :\

duddit2 said,
people underestimate non techy folks stupidity to techy stuff (I'm not trying to be insulting here, and stupidity is harsh yes, but the levels of misinterpretation and outright wrongness of many folks out there makes me err on the side of calling it stupidity).

I deal with this all the time in my work and with friends and family, of which most are none techy and I'm constantly amazed how wrong people can be about things, but the real kicker is when you try to correct them and explain - they just do not WANT TO KNOW, they stare blankly at you with a glazed over look like its rocket science and none of their misinterpretations are changed one bit!

+100.
Reminds me of my dad.... Sometimes I wonder if he intentionally misuses acronyms just to mess with me...

Rudie32 said,
A quick visit to the tigerdirect store/compusa in naperville shows a crap load of those same style boxes, by tons of companies. not just samsung.

So Samsung's excuse is that they're not the only one making knockoffs of Apple products?

American made-up-but-trying-to-look-and-sound-real advertising are the easiest fake thing in the world to spot. This is one of them.

bidz said,
American made-up-but-trying-to-look-and-sound-real advertising are the easiest fake thing in the world to spot. This is one of them.

Exactly what I thought. Sounds more like a hidden marketing campaign from Samsung to me.

This story either might be true or might be a good story! But I know from yesterdays victory, a lot of people might now think of Samsung as a copy-cat secondary company! Who knows!

Yes, probably made up, and if not a little late to make this connection. Since yesterday, Samsung can no longer build products like this.

While I would love it if this was true. The exchange between the people in that post by Enrique Gutierrez sounds like an advert. It doesn't come off as real. I'm betting he just made that up. Especially the 4 groups of people thing.

M4x1mus said,
While I would love it if this was true. The exchange between the people in that post by Enrique Gutierrez sounds like an advert. It doesn't come off as real. I'm betting he just made that up. Especially the 4 groups of people thing.

I realise that these people weren't techys, but they sound profoundly stupid. Who buys a Macbook without knowing about Windows machines and their price-difference? Who forks out 700 bucks on an iPad without considering the alternatives?

Could that really be true?

TakeNothingBack said,

I realise that these people weren't techys, but they sound profoundly stupid. Who buys a Macbook without knowing about Windows machines and their price-difference? Who forks out 700 bucks on an iPad without considering the alternatives?

Could that really be true?


Have you seen the terrible Apple "Genius" ads? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CMcrw8WTWSs). The people in that article sound exactly like the ones in this awful ad.

TakeNothingBack said,

I realise that these people weren't techys, but they sound profoundly stupid. Who buys a Macbook without knowing about Windows machines and their price-difference? Who forks out 700 bucks on an iPad without considering the alternatives?

Could that really be true?

well yes it,is.I personally saw people who would say that there are no other tablets than ipad or apple invented bluetooth

TakeNothingBack said,

I realise that these people weren't techys, but they sound profoundly stupid. Who buys a Macbook without knowing about Windows machines and their price-difference? Who forks out 700 bucks on an iPad without considering the alternatives?

Could that really be true?


If I told you that lots of people wanted to buy netbooks to play their DVDs, would you believe me? Sounds stupid, but it's true.

TakeNothingBack said,

I realise that these people weren't techys, but they sound profoundly stupid. Who buys a Macbook without knowing about Windows machines and their price-difference? Who forks out 700 bucks on an iPad without considering the alternatives?

Could that really be true?


They're called "users", and this doesn't even scratch the surface of how profoundly stupid they are.

Neobond said,
It's true there's no real way to confirm it, but there's also no reason it's all a lie either.

to add to it, I heard same type of conversations at work.

TakeNothingBack said,

I realise that these people weren't techys, but they sound profoundly stupid. Who buys a Macbook without knowing about Windows machines and their price-difference? Who forks out 700 bucks on an iPad without considering the alternatives?

Could that really be true?

I was once asked to take a photo for a 60-year-old couple. They handed me an iPhone and said apologetically that they had no idea how to use it.

So I asked them why they bought it. Well, they said, they just switched to iPhone two months ago, when their contract expired. It was the same price as their old phone, so they figured, why not?

What was their old phone? Oh, it was some featurephone with buttons. Did they have a data plan on their old phone? What's a data plan?

In other words, these people just handed Apple $600 in profit (2x iPhone), and paid out $720 from their own pocket (2 x $15 data plan x 24 month contract), for something which they had no idea how to use.

That's the power of advertising.

TomJones said,

I was once asked to take a photo for a 60-year-old couple. They handed me an iPhone and said apologetically that they had no idea how to use it.

So I asked them why they bought it. Well, they said, they just switched to iPhone two months ago, when their contract expired. It was the same price as their old phone, so they figured, why not?

What was their old phone? Oh, it was some featurephone with buttons. Did they have a data plan on their old phone? What's a data plan?

In other words, these people just handed Apple $600 in profit (2x iPhone), and paid out $720 from their own pocket (2 x $15 data plan x 24 month contract), for something which they had no idea how to use.

That's the power of advertising.

Uh, no... They may not know how to use it, but they still bought the highest quality phone on the market. It's their job to know how to use it. If they struggled with iOS, they'd have a brain aneurism trying to use Android.

siah1214 said,

They're called "users", and this doesn't even scratch the surface of how profoundly stupid they are.

They are not stupid, they just worry more about other **** than computers.

TakeNothingBack said,

I realise that these people weren't techys, but they sound profoundly stupid. Who buys a Macbook without knowing about Windows machines and their price-difference? Who forks out 700 bucks on an iPad without considering the alternatives?

Could that really be true?

It very well may be true. Apple wouldn't have gotten to many billions of cash in hand (I don't remember the exact figure) without these type of buyers.

Spirit Dave said,

Uh, no... They may not know how to use it, but they still bought the highest quality phone on the market. It's their job to know how to use it. If they struggled with iOS, they'd have a brain aneurism trying to use Android.

His point still stands, regardless. They handed Apple their money *without* knowing why said phone is the best for them.

javagreen said,

His point still stands, regardless. They handed Apple their money *without* knowing why said phone is the best for them.

But that stands for any modern phone then. And the Galaxy XHDPI range arent exactly cheap. Even though they feel it.

Spirit Dave said,

But that stands for any modern phone then. And the Galaxy XHDPI range arent exactly cheap. Even though they feel it.

Why do you automatically assume they would've gone for the higher specced Galaxy phones? His point was - they got suckered into an expensive purchase without knowing why it's useful for them.

They might very well have gone for mid-range phones which have great cameras, and perform great for their needs, in addition to saving good amounts of money.

The new Sony Xperia range of phones, and many mid-range phones from the Galaxy series, HTC One S/One V etc. fit the bill.

I think most of Samsung products are quite better than the ones Apple sells. Samsung at least follows specifications and doesn't rip us off with their proprietary cables and accessories... Plus, I can do a lot more with my Galaxy than I could do with an iPhone Sold my iPhone 3 and got a Galaxy SII, 3 months ago, will never go back!

StevenMalone77 said,
The iPhone 3g is junk at this point anyways so really no matter what you bought it would have been better lmfao

If it is junk, then why is Apple still selling it?

Lucas said,

Yeah, that's the 3GS, they were talking about the 3G.

You are right, they still sell the 3GS, not the 3G. Stupid confusing Apple naming scheme. And people complain about Apple competitor's names.