Blizzard announces changes in attempt to cull forum trolls

With the release of the beta of Starcraft II, Blizzard introduced a new feature called "Real ID" -- essentially the feature is your "real-life" full name being used as your username. The feature was trumpeted to be "completely voluntary" and "keeps players connected across all of Battle.net".

Today, Blizzard announced some major changes coming to their forums, saying that in the "near future" you will be required to post on the official Blizzard forums using your Real ID, which is essentially your full, real life name. Blizzard says that "the forums have also earned a reputation as a place where flame wars, trolling, and other unpleasantness run wild" and they have made the move because "Removing the veil of anonymity typical to online dialogue will contribute to a more positive forum environment, promote constructive conversations, and connect the Blizzard community in ways they haven’t been connected before."

The announcement also says that the update will include staffers, who will also now be posting under their full names, but with their posts in blue.

Backlash has been huge on the forums, with well over 26 pages in one thread as of writing, and another over on the WoW forums with 388 posts and climbing. Most replies are negative with some users writing:

"This is possibly the worst thing I've ever read in blue. I can't even begin to fathom why you would do this."

"I don't want my real name out there. I'm sure that many people who are not trolls and just want to have civil conversation will also not want their real name out there."

"I'm in witness protection for testifying in a trial that sent a man to death, and his family swore to send me to my death too, so I will be deleting every single post I've ever made in FEAR for MY VERY LIFE."

Some users agree with the move though, posting:

"Good god guys. This isn't a big deal. Real Names will make it more difficult for spammers and trollers to do their thing. I mean they will. But it will be more difficult."

"I change my mind. I love this idea and I only hope they take it a step further and require it in game to stop people from using potty mouths."

An employee even went as far as revealing his name in a post on the forums as "Michael Whipple" and said that "Like all employees I've also been in every game manual and credit reel since I've been here."

The community on the Blizzard forums is large, numbering over 10 million users, and the move ultimately would upset some of these users. The move is a first by a game manufacturer such as Blizzard, who has high hopes this will clean up their forum community for the better.

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And what happens when some punk kid is online talking trash and is not old enough to have his own name on his account and ends up getting his parents or possibly someone else beat up ? just an example ya know ? Or do you think any parents will be happy to know their name is showing up online when their kids use the account they bought for them ?

Some of these comments, I must say, are simply inane and childish. I fail to understand this sense of entitlement that so many people have... With just about everything these days... Blizzard has every right to make every attempt to improve the quality of *their* forums. Perhaps it will work, perhaps not. For my part, I played WoW from release and enjoyed it (maybe a little too much;) Then I made the mistake of visiting the forums. I recall being not just a little disappointed at the caliber of folks who seemingly played the game. Relatively speaking, there was very little in the way of constructive, or value-added comments. Eventually, I quit the game for good, as did most of my friends. For my part, I won't go so far as to say the Blizzard's forums killed my interest in the game, but it <i>was</i> the first in a series of steps which led me to the decision that my time was better spent elsewhere.

arcita said,
Some of these comments, I must say, are simply inane and childish. I fail to understand this sense of entitlement that so many people have... With just about everything these days... Blizzard has every right to make every attempt to improve the quality of *their* forums. Perhaps it will work, perhaps not. For my part, I played WoW from release and enjoyed it (maybe a little too much;) Then I made the mistake of visiting the forums. I recall being not just a little disappointed at the caliber of folks who seemingly played the game. Relatively speaking, there was very little in the way of constructive, or value-added comments. Eventually, I quit the game for good, as did most of my friends. For my part, I won't go so far as to say the Blizzard's forums killed my interest in the game, but it <i>was</i> the first in a series of steps which led me to the decision that my time was better spent elsewhere.

Hmmm? Name an on-line game that doesn't have trolls, flamers and drama-queens. As of yet, I haven't run into even one. The difference with World of Warcraft is that you got a whole lot more gamers than you do in other games.

I'll give you a simple example of something I ran into while playing DDO. I was doing a 'hard' quest on epic difficulty with a random group and I was the rogue. Now, despite the numerous says and mentions of how the rogue should be the one moving at the front of the group, we had one player constantly showing off his boots of haste, rushing forward, setting off traps and pulling groups of 10-15 mobs on the group. Such a behavior is hardly productive, but what ticked me off the most was when he practically pushed the rest of us off a ledge for being 'too slow' and we ended up in an acid trap that killed us. In the end, neither of us could get any loot from the quest as we were unable to complete it due to being dead and having to interact with a creature at the end of the dungeon which was about half a minute away from the place of our demise. Anyways, when the quest was done, the same person called us jerks, idiots and noobs and ran off to trouble god-knows-who. We had to revive through a spirit healer and push our way through a maze all over again to complete a quest that we could had spent another 30 seconds on, but instead ended up spending more than 20 extra minutes on it.

That is only one example where about an hour of questing gets screwed up by a single person. I can give you hundreds more, and while I have the same stories about World of Warcraft, I also have them about DDO, LOTRO, MU Online, Ultima, EQ and Lineage 2. If I try to list all the non-graphics based MMOs I've played where I've ran into people like that as well... it will probably take the good part of the day to do so.

If this is just for the forums and not the name you use "in-game" then I'm fine with that. I don't use the Blizzard forums, anyway. But I'm worried that this may be extended to in-game as well.

For me, it isn't so much people on the Internet finding information about me so much as people I meet and know IRL finding posts I've made online. I don't want a future employer to google my name and think that I have a video game addiction problem and if they hire me I will probably spend most of my time posting in forums instead of working.

Shadrack said,
If this is just for the forums and not the name you use "in-game" then I'm fine with that. I don't use the Blizzard forums, anyway. But I'm worried that this may be extended to in-game as well.
Just the forums. And not retroactive.

Kirkburn said,
Just the forums. And not retroactive.

Well, you can add friends using RealID, which will lead to the name, but it takes authorization to do so. In other words, you are protected in-game.

Metodi Mitov said,

Well, you can add friends using RealID, which will lead to the name, but it takes authorization to do so. In other words, you are protected in-game.


actually you can see all your friends' friends lists with all the irl names in them. so it's not really protection at all.

treemonster said,

actually you can see all your friends' friends lists with all the irl names in them. so it's not really protection at all.

That's a bit of a weird decision, but then again, I haven't tested the feature yet either. If that's the case, then I would have to say that's a really bad decision and I will be the first to contact customer support in regards to that 'feature'. And yes, it is different from what they're doing on the forums.

I like this idea. I've gone there on and off to read the forums to see what's up with the game and see if there's a demo or something released. But the forums are just completely unreadable due to all of the trolls there.

micah whipple, a blizz employee who revealed his name on the wow forums yesterday, has had his dox dropped.
why don't you stop by his house or give his phone a ring or say hello to his mom or his 2 kids and tell them how you feel about this.

Or not. Because that is an insane, stupid, childish reaction.

FWIW, all the CMs have revealed their names previously (I know this for a fact). People just don't care that much unless ... they're on a 'moral' crusade, like now.

treemonster said,
micah whipple, a blizz employee who revealed his name on the wow forums yesterday, has had his dox dropped.
why don't you stop by his house or give his phone a ring or say hello to his mom or his 2 kids and tell them how you feel about this.

And that is going to change what exactly? I doubt he has any way of changing the decision.

treemonster said,
point is it happened to him. it can happen to you if you post on the sc2/wow forums after this change goes into effect.

My name is right there. Hit me.

da00 said,
Goign to be fun for all the roleplayers "OMG UR A DUDE LOL!"

Actual role-players don't care about the sex of the person they're role-playing with. I know I sure as hell don't care if the night elf chick in front of me is actually a fat guy sitting in nothing but his underwear in his mom's basement. If the role-play is good, it doesn't matter one bit.

Metodi Mitov said,

Actual role-players don't care about the sex of the person they're role-playing with. I know I sure as hell don't care if the night elf chick in front of me is actually a fat guy sitting in nothing but his underwear in his mom's basement. If the role-play is good, it doesn't matter one bit.


having played on a RP server i can tell you it only doesn't matter if it's a girl playing a guy toon. if it's a guy playing a girl toon you're a bad person irl for doing so and probably gay or something according to the hardcore RPers.

treemonster said,

having played on a RP server i can tell you it only doesn't matter if it's a girl playing a guy toon. if it's a guy playing a girl toon you're a bad person irl for doing so and probably gay or something according to the hardcore RPers.

Mmmm, not sure where you get that information. Having role-played for 14 years now, I'd like to consider myself one of said hardcore RP-ers. It's the ones that DO care about it that are obviously not hardcore. Sorry.

I've role-played on numerous on-line medias and I make it a point to state beforehand that I'm a male if I'm playing a female character. Do you know what that achieves? I haven't had even a single person that was a bad role-player, compared to when I didn't do it and was getting them in tons. The bad ones just run away when they hear about it.

Metodi Mitov said,
I know I sure as hell don't care if the night elf chick in front of me is actually a fat guy sitting in nothing but his underwear in his mom's basement. If the role-play is good, it doesn't matter one bit.

Thats actually pretty disgusting

Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety.

- Benjamin Franklin

Typical typical typical gee I wonder if the users who are in charge have to follow the same rules as the people who they sell sh+t to have to.I seriously doubt it.

120 said,
Typical typical typical gee I wonder if the users who are in charge have to follow the same rules as the people who they sell sh+t to have to.I seriously doubt it.

Did you read the article? A Blizzard mod posted his own name on the boards regarding that fiasco.

Metodi Mitov said,

Did you read the article? A Blizzard mod posted his own name on the boards regarding that fiasco.


and his dox got dropped. last report his deleted his facebook and has not been answering his phone due to the response.

treemonster said,

and his dox got dropped. last report his deleted his facebook and has not been answering his phone due to the response.

I'm sure. Pretty much because of people like 120 up there calling him to tell him how much of an idiot he is for defending the policy of the company. News flash, I doubt that person has any executive power to begin with. He might file a complaint with the higher-ups, but I kind of doubt it will achieve much. In this case, it's not a problem of 'being stalked', it's more a problem of being part of customer support, the people who usually have the least fault and get the most blame.

Additionally, it wasn't your average Joe that just went and googled the name and got the results, but an even 'smarter' person who decided to not only get the information, but to post it on a blog topic related to the decision Blizzard has made. Now tell me who is at fault there.

Either way, my post was to make the point that it will not be 'just for the average user', but will obviously be for Blizzard employees that post on the forums as well.

I know almost a dozen active, good members on the forum who will never go there again.. a few are not gonna renew their account.

Get rid of trolls by having good mods.. This is just opening up people to harassment.. I'll be in awe if any women are still active on the forums that aren't staff..

Ryoken said,
I know almost a dozen active, good members on the forum who will never go there again.. a few are not gonna renew their account.

Get rid of trolls by having good mods.. This is just opening up people to harassment.. I'll be in awe if any women are still active on the forums that aren't staff..

You know, women go outside and have interaction with men, what's the difference? Do they get raped when they go out or something? Haha. You need to get out of your room more often.

And not renewing because of this? Talk about making a huge deal over nothing. Simply put: don't post on the forums.

Kirkburn said,
It's a pretty solid argument.

not really.

forums are part of your $15 a month. you pay for them, and that's including the game support you get on them. so if you don't want to share your irl name you miss out on a big part of what you are PAYING for.

treemonster said,

not really.

forums are part of your $15 a month. you pay for them, and that's including the game support you get on them. so if you don't want to share your irl name you miss out on a big part of what you are PAYING for.

Have been playing WoW since beta. Never had the need or desire to post on the forums.

Kirkburn said,
It's a pretty solid argument.
No, as I said further up in the thread making you *force* to share your personal information *publicly* when trying to use a part of the service you *pay to have the right to* isn't very user-friendly from several points of view (privacy concerns being the most obvious one) especially when they ban you if you would do it today. To just "not post" is not a viable answer to the issue.

I wouldn't want my personal information outed like that when I want to post with my character on a public gaming forum. My personal life doesn't have *anything* to do with it.

Can they dictate their own terms? Sure. Giving out my personal information to everyone if I'd like to use part of their service I pay for? Not cool. Not cool at all. Hopefully they take a step back on the issue and reconsider. There ARE better ways to combat troll posts and to be frank it's quite offending to see them state trolls as the reason they want to implement this system.

Metodi, that's good for you but thankfully people are different.

ah well as soon as someone is stalked and killed by some troll on the boards from a flame war two noobs got into, this will come to an end. Till then, sit back and wait.

Osiris said,
ah well as soon as someone is stalked and killed by some troll on the boards from a flame war two noobs got into, this will come to an end. Till then, sit back and wait.

Are you serious? Haha.

Osiris said,
ah well as soon as someone is stalked and killed by some troll on the boards from a flame war two noobs got into, this will come to an end. Till then, sit back and wait.

I can see that happening... not. And then again, if you're afraid someone might decide to come over and kill you over something you're posting, maybe you should consider what you're posting, no?

hmmm... Not so strangely, I have no problem with using my real name.

Maybe because I don't go around being a complete prick*, so it is ok if people know who I am.


* That's not to say everyone using a pseudonym is a prick - many are just very concerned about privacy.

markjensen said,
hmmm... Not so strangely, I have no problem with using my real name.

Maybe because I don't go around being a complete prick*, so it is ok if people know who I am.


* That's not to say everyone using a pseudonym is a prick - many are just very concerned about privacy.

Read my reply a few above. You're delusional if you believe this is simply going to stop people from being asshats. There are more serious ramifications.

nekkidtruth said,

Read my reply a few above. You're delusional if you believe this is simply going to stop people from being asshats. There are more serious ramifications.

It's not going to stop them. Nobody said it was going to stop them. But it will reduce Blizzard's load by a lot. What serious ramifications? Someone finding over your personal information? Well, don't post on the forums if you are afraid of such things.

nekkidtruth said,

Read my reply a few above. You're delusional if you believe this is simply going to stop people from being asshats. There are more serious ramifications.

No need to read your post.

You are delusional if YOU think that I said ANYTHING about this "stopping people from being asshats".

I made no such claim. If you want to argue the point, please find someone making the claims you think they are making.

markjensen said,
No need to read your post.

You are delusional if YOU think that I said ANYTHING about this "stopping people from being asshats".

I made no such claim. If you want to argue the point, please find someone making the claims you think they are making.

read your post again. you did make that implication that because YOU claim to not be an asshat that you have nothing to worry about.

as if being an asshat is what it takes to get stalkers in wow.

treemonster said,

read your post again. you did make that implication that because YOU claim to not be an asshat that you have nothing to worry about.

as if being an asshat is what it takes to get stalkers in wow.

Thank you. I was beginning to wonder if I had misread his original post. Glad to see I hadn't. The insinuation that in order be "bullied" as some have put it on the Internet, you need to be a prick is what gives away YOUR delusion markjensen.

Well what do you suggest? I called they're support a little white ago to see about how to get a refund for SC2 I pre-ordered. The message said that their phones were too busy and that I should use the forums. Well if I refuse to give out my personal info how am I going to use the forums when this goes into place? Forums are main part of a companies support model these days. How do you suggest I get support if this is the case?

notta said,
Well what do you suggest? I called they're support a little white ago to see about how to get a refund for SC2 I pre-ordered. The message said that their phones were too busy and that I should use the forums. Well if I refuse to give out my personal info how am I going to use the forums when this goes into place? Forums are main part of a companies support model these days. How do you suggest I get support if this is the case?

There's also the option to send an e-mail to support. I've certainly used it before and found the person to be very nice and helpful, not to mention quick to respond. Try that next time?

Those that insist on the right to hide behind a *handle* on forums such as BNet are basically defending the right to cyber-bully. What is the difference between cyberbullying and real-world bullying? In terms of effects on the victim, often there is no difference whatsoever, and I refuse to defend it. Further, from a legal standpoint, Activision Blizzard owns the server code on which BNet is hoted (regardless of whether they own the servers themselves); therefore, they have every right (and every responsibility) to put an end to such thuggish tactics. If you don't want to participate in the BNet forums due to the changes, you don't have to (participation in any BNet forum is not mandatory, even if you have a legit copy of every Blizzard game extant). In my opinion, good on Activision Blizzard.

PGHammer said,
Those that insist on the right to hide behind a *handle* on forums such as BNet are basically defending the right to cyber-bully. What is the difference between cyberbullying and real-world bullying? In terms of effects on the victim, often there is no difference whatsoever, and I refuse to defend it. Further, from a legal standpoint, Activision Blizzard owns the server code on which BNet is hoted (regardless of whether they own the servers themselves); therefore, they have every right (and every responsibility) to put an end to such thuggish tactics. If you don't want to participate in the BNet forums due to the changes, you don't have to (participation in any BNet forum is not mandatory, even if you have a legit copy of every Blizzard game extant). In my opinion, good on Activision Blizzard.

I almost agree with you, but in all honesty I have to call BS. This has about as much to do with cyber-bullying as it has to do with your underwear. There are some really REALLY messed up people out there. Regardless of what you say or do, instigate or not, there are messed up people whom I'm sure you wouldn't personally want standing on your doorstep.

Sure it's difficult to find someone with a common name, but what about those who are a bit more distinct? Here are some scenerio's for you.

Example 1: I'm 16 years old and I pretty much keep to myself. I play WoW regularly and occasionally post on the forums here and there. Usually to discuss loot or whatever. One day, I decide to have a random duel. A year ago I posted the name of my character on the forums, so it's really not difficult to run a quick search to find my "RealID" linked. I brutally beat the other person in a duel and he snaps. If you don't think there are people out there who would take the time to look up the name, look up an address and GO to that address, you are severely naive. I would even say borderline delusional.

Example 2: I'm a 25 year old woman and I've been playing with a Guild for 2 years. There's this creep who knows I'm a woman and is constantly trying to cyber me. I shoot him down all the time but he just doesn't stop. It's mostly harmless so I don't want to report him for harassment, it would just make him angry to have his account banned. Suddenly, my "RealID" shows up on the forums and this guy now has access to my name. Maybe I said I lived in Dallas, Texas during a conversation he was a part of or within earshot of. I've denied him so many times, now that he knows my name and where to start looking....would he come looking?

I'm sure you get the picture. This is a stupid idea. Stupid as in epic proportions stupid. There are some really effed up people on this planet. There is no need to serve yourself up on a silver platter. This is a HUGE lawsuit waiting to happen. Whoever it was that suggested this at Blizzard should be fired on the spot.

nekkidtruth said,

I almost agree with you, but in all honesty I have to call BS. This has about as much to do with cyber-bullying as it has to do with your underwear. There are some really REALLY messed up people out there. Regardless of what you say or do, instigate or not, there are messed up people whom I'm sure you wouldn't personally want standing on your doorstep.

Sure it's difficult to find someone with a common name, but what about those who are a bit more distinct? Here are some scenerio's for you.

Example 1: I'm 16 years old and I pretty much keep to myself. I play WoW regularly and occasionally post on the forums here and there. Usually to discuss loot or whatever. One day, I decide to have a random duel. A year ago I posted the name of my character on the forums, so it's really not difficult to run a quick search to find my "RealID" linked. I brutally beat the other person in a duel and he snaps. If you don't think there are people out there who would take the time to look up the name, look up an address and GO to that address, you are severely naive. I would even say borderline delusional.

Example 2: I'm a 25 year old woman and I've been playing with a Guild for 2 years. There's this creep who knows I'm a woman and is constantly trying to cyber me. I shoot him down all the time but he just doesn't stop. It's mostly harmless so I don't want to report him for harassment, it would just make him angry to have his account banned. Suddenly, my "RealID" shows up on the forums and this guy now has access to my name. Maybe I said I lived in Dallas, Texas during a conversation he was a part of or within earshot of. I've denied him so many times, now that he knows my name and where to start looking....would he come looking?

I'm sure you get the picture. This is a stupid idea. Stupid as in epic proportions stupid. There are some really effed up people on this planet. There is no need to serve yourself up on a silver platter. This is a HUGE lawsuit waiting to happen. Whoever it was that suggested this at Blizzard should be fired on the spot.

Example 1: That would, could, and *has* happened already, and in regards to other MMOs (not just WoW), so if you think hiding behind a handle protects you from that, you're wrong.

Example 2: This has *also* happened (again, everywhere from MMOs to IRC), and handles as opposed to real names has done nit to stop it (it has, at the most, slowed it down).

You are looking at it as a privacy invasion, when, to look at the issue honestly, privacy on the Internet is impractical to safeguard for the average person.

Also, consider the position Activision Blizzard is in *legally* - if they do nothing about it, they are open to being sued. (The company is based in California.) For AB, it's primarily a liability/legal issue, and in a lawsuit-happy environment, I don't blame them for taking steps to minimize the impact.

PGHammer said,

Example 1: That would, could, and *has* happened already, and in regards to other MMOs (not just WoW), so if you think hiding behind a handle protects you from that, you're wrong.

Example 2: This has *also* happened (again, everywhere from MMOs to IRC), and handles as opposed to real names has done nit to stop it (it has, at the most, slowed it down).

You are looking at it as a privacy invasion, when, to look at the issue honestly, privacy on the Internet is impractical to safeguard for the average person.

Also, consider the position Activision Blizzard is in *legally* - if they do nothing about it, they are open to being sued. (The company is based in California.) For AB, it's primarily a liability/legal issue, and in a lawsuit-happy environment, I don't blame them for taking steps to minimize the impact.

I never claimed it hadn't happened yet. I'm just stating that it does and WILL happen. This is as much a privacy issue as it is a safety issue. I'm sorry but, a lawsuit against my company because a death caused by my own actions or, a lawsuit against my company because of some lame troll posts on a forum? It's not really a hard decision to make.

Nowhere did I say hiding behind a handle protects you from anything. It does however protect you from complete psychos. Of course, if you're stupidly giving up information about yourself to said psychos you're not doing yourself any favors. What Blizzard is planning to do is to involuntarily take that "safety net" away from you. Which in the end can lead something a lot more serious than just "You're fat and ugly!". Now it's "You're fat and ugly and I'm going to hunt you down and rape/kill you."

I'm sorry you can't see that.

Ok, give this guy another source of information http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gbmZBW2q_g4. If one person dies from this than what was lost far outweighs what was gained. There are 4 people with my name in the USA, so I don't think I would be hard to find. This ass actually lives no more than 45 minutes from me.

notta said,
Ok, give this guy another source of information http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gbmZBW2q_g4. If one person dies from this than what was lost far outweighs what was gained. There are 4 people with my name in the USA, so I don't think I would be hard to find. This ass actually lives no more than 45 minutes from me.

Are you afraid of some stupid dude over vent? Everybody can yell stuff and say they are serial killers and whatnot. At the end of the day, everyone there was playing WoW, so chill.

notta said,
Ok, give this guy another source of information http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gbmZBW2q_g4. If one person dies from this than what was lost far outweighs what was gained. There are 4 people with my name in the USA, so I don't think I would be hard to find. This ass actually lives no more than 45 minutes from me.

You can still avoid posting your character name along with your real name. How is he going to link the two together then?

Not a big deal. Like Vox Populi said, people throw their real names around left and right on social networking sites, and I wouldn't be surprised if the vast majority of WoW players had a Facebook account.

What's-his-arseface with the bit about witness protection in the quotes can shove it. If you're in witness protection, I thought you were assigned a new name--which you should be using for EVERYTHING, including your WoW forum account. Duh.

I can't think of anything bad that could possibly come from giving out your real name on a web forum unless you take very seriously the ability to post stuff you'd be embarrassed to have traced back to you--and guess what? That's the point of the move! Darn right it's going to make a bunch of users leave. As if Blizzard didn't know that. They're trying to rebuild a more civil environment, so naturally all the annoying-as-fark internet tough guys are going to ditch.

Let them all rot in YouTube comments threads for eternity, for all I care.

Edrick Smith said,
-looks at my user name and avatar- yep been doing this for years

You're a Smith! There is like a billion of you lol.

The biggest problem I see is how it affects the business world. Companies are already scanning potential new employees on Facebook, what's to stop them from searching on the worlds biggest played MMO?

Honestly I don't care either way because I don't post on these forums anyways, but I see absolutely no benefit to this change for the community, if anything it will decrease activity and scare people off rather than to help build a better community like they said it will do. The only thing it will do is require them to moderate the forum less.

Just another kick in the face for net neutrality.

So on one hand people are going to jump on their facebook/twitter/youtube/whatever and go "Hey look at me! Here's what I ate, thought, went to, slept at, got mad at, etc.." Then on the other hand these same people cry foul about privacy? Really?

And what is so bad about people knowing your name? The phone book has been around since 1878 and it has names with phone numbers and address. Quick, put on that tinfoil hat because they are coming for you!

Vox Populi said,
So on one hand people are going to jump on their facebook/twitter/youtube/whatever and go "Hey look at me! Here's what I ate, thought, went to, slept at, got mad at, etc.." Then on the other hand these same people cry foul about privacy? Really?

And what is so bad about people knowing your name? The phone book has been around since 1878 and it has names with phone numbers and address. Quick, put on that tinfoil hat because they are coming for you!

Uh, not everyone is on Twitter first of all. You are full of complete naivete if you cannot see the bad in this--the phone book does not have your posts, your opinions, your beliefs written in hundreds of pages underneath it. A list of names is nothing; a name with metadata is everything.

I Google the names of all prospective applicants for any jobs I advertise. I've rejected a few for their Facebook and Twitter posts... maybe now I can reject them for being hunters, because hunters are gay.

ascendant123 said,

I Google the names of all prospective applicants for any jobs I advertise. I've rejected a few for their Facebook and Twitter posts... maybe now I can reject them for being hunters, because hunters are gay.

That is disgusting and sick. Everyone's personal life shouldnt affect them if they get a job or not. If the interview and their history in other jobs is great, they should get the job regardless what they post on Facebook/Twitter/etc.

Razorwing said,
But what if we have the same names as other people? .

Hey my names Razorwing too! lol

Personally i hate websites displaying my real name and the last online game that attempted this was on facebook and the feature was soon removed after a few complaints. End of the day i dont want everyone knowing my "real" name and it just persuades me to use a fake name in future on websites which causes more bother because lets face it how many people are going to be called "John Smith" lol

I think this is a good move. Back when I played WoW a few people in my guild managed to start quite the sh*tstorm on the forums, and it ended up splitting the guild in two. I'd hope that with everyone's "real" names in play, it negates the IFT (Internet F*ckwad Theorem, google if you're unfamiliar) and brings some order to the chaos.

My Real ID doesn't have my real name in it. It uses my nickname, and I don't intend to change it.

Nebula2020 said,
Does anyone know how it will be proven to be your correct name?
Whats to stop me calling myself Ambroos?

:-)

Your billing wouldn't go through, and if you use game cards and they determine it's a false name they'll cancel your account under the TOS.

Nebula2020 said,
Does anyone know how it will be proven to be your correct name?
Whats to stop me calling myself Ambroos?

:-)

I'd get very mad!

GreyWolf said,

Your billing wouldn't go through, and if you use game cards and they determine it's a false name they'll cancel your account under the TOS.

Incorrect. I don't have my real name on my battle.net account and my credit card charges are still going through. kthxbai.

F that. I dont need the whole world seeing my real name. Somebody somewhere will find a way to use this against the forum posters. I should just include a photo of myself on every post too.

Well, better be voluntary because if they ever make it mandatory, they will lose my business as well as a lot of others. I NEVER EVER put my real name, address, or phone number on any sites unless it has good security. Yes I know that my info may still be compromised, but paying bills and checking bank info is so much easier. Plus, my system has been spot free for over a decade so I am not worried.

techbeck said,
Well, better be voluntary because if they ever make it mandatory, they will lose my business as well as a lot of others. I NEVER EVER put my real name, address, or phone number on any sites unless it has good security. Yes I know that my info may still be compromised, but paying bills and checking bank info is so much easier. Plus, my system has been spot free for over a decade so I am not worried.

Then don't post on the WoW forums. It will be mandatory. And nobody is forcing you to post on the forums, it's an added bonus to your subscription.

Rodrigo said,
Then don't post on the WoW forums. It will be mandatory. And nobody is forcing you to post on the forums, it's an added bonus to your subscription.
It's not "an added bonus", it's part of the service you get when subscribing. And the part that ticks people off is where they, should you decide to *use* a part of that paid service, force you to share your personal information on a public board with everyone on the Internet. The current forum rules over at Blizzard state that you will get BANNED for doing just that.

There are way better solutions than this to combat spam and troll posts, just read the thread and you'll see.

techbeck said,
Well, better be voluntary because if they ever make it mandatory, they will lose my business as well as a lot of others. I NEVER EVER put my real name, address, or phone number on any sites unless it has good security. Yes I know that my info may still be compromised, but paying bills and checking bank info is so much easier. Plus, my system has been spot free for over a decade so I am not worried.

If you never ever put your real name on websites, then there's nothing to worry about, right? You wouldn't have put your real name on your battle.net account, would you?

BAD, imagine you are a student or some guy in a higher position and you are playing wow ... you would be ridiculed by the media AND take a lot of **** in game from people ....

say Steve Jobs and Gates (assuming they do play) will be insane

zeta_immersion said,
BAD, imagine you are a student or some guy in a higher position and you are playing wow ... you would be ridiculed by the media AND take a lot of **** in game from people ....

say Steve Jobs and Gates (assuming they do play) will be insane

Are you dumb? Plenty of celebrities play WoW and as far as we know none are ridiculised.

zeta_immersion said,
BAD, imagine you are a student or some guy in a higher position and you are playing wow ... you would be ridiculed by the media AND take a lot of **** in game from people ....

say Steve Jobs and Gates (assuming they do play) will be insane

Why would a student be ridiculed by the media for playing WoW? I would have thought students make up a large part of the overall user-base.

zeta_immersion said,
BAD, imagine you are a student or some guy in a higher position and you are playing wow ... you would be ridiculed by the media AND take a lot of **** in game from people ....

say Steve Jobs and Gates (assuming they do play) will be insane

Well, that was a good laugh for the start of the day. Where are you from? The dark ages? WoW has a large player-base and it's likely that more than 50% of those people are adults. Grow up and learn that playing video games as an adult is not a bad thing or something to be ridiculed. That's the high school bully/cheer-leader mentality where 'geeks are bad'. Plus, if you display your name on the forum, you don't HAVE TO display any of your characters along with that so in-game flak would be pretty irrelevant in that situation. Sure, you might get people bugging you on the forums, but that's easily ignored.

I can't possibly see where this is a good thing. For the moment I'm going to step back and listen. Tell me what good can come of this? I'm listening.

notta said,
I can't possibly see where this is a good thing. For the moment I'm going to step back and listen. Tell me what good can come of this? I'm listening.

Seriously, take the time to read the SAME article you are commenting.

That one poor girl playing in a guild full of guys will need to move to a new town after the one really messed up stalker finds her Facebook.

Piggy said,
That one poor girl playing in a guild full of guys will need to move to a new town after the one really messed up stalker finds her Facebook.

or that male pretending to be a girl in a guild full of guys is beaten horrifically with keyboards after being stalked on facebook and so on

bitbucket said,

or that male pretending to be a girl in a guild full of guys is beaten horrifically with keyboards after being stalked on facebook and so on

Rofl.

bitbucket said,

or that male pretending to be a girl in a guild full of guys is beaten horrifically with keyboards after being stalked on facebook and so on

Most guilds use Vent. If you're maniacal enough to want to claim that you're a girl and have footed something like $100.00 for a good voice modulation software, what's to say that you haven't put in a female name in your account?

i honestly see nothing wrong with having your name out in the open (think phone book or an online phone directory service). Your name is pretty much publically available. I think its pretty harmless if only your name is known.

now when its your name combined with something else... thats a different story

p.s. i see the hypocrisy in posting this with my screen name, but hey we don't have problems here (in comparison to blizzard).

some_guy said,
i honestly see nothing wrong with having your name out in the open (think phone book or an online phone directory service). Your name is pretty much publically available. I think its pretty harmless if only your name is known.

now when its your name combined with something else... thats a different story

p.s. i see the hypocrisy in posting this with my screen name, but hey we don't have problems here (in comparison to blizzard).

*shrugs* My name is right there. Pretty uncommon in the US. Look it up, see what you get out of it.

Metodi Mitov said,

*shrugs* My name is right there. Pretty uncommon in the US. Look it up, see what you get out of it.


Palatine, Illinois.... all someone needs to find your ass in real life mate.

Together with your facebook picture, makes it even easier:D

Shadowzz said,

Palatine, Illinois.... all someone needs to find your ass in real life mate.

Together with your facebook picture, makes it even easier:D

Considering I haven't touched my facebook to update info in about ummmm.... oh, a year and a half, you'd have lots of trouble finding me. Still, if I wanted that info hidden off facebook, I would have done so.

Whats stopping someone from using a fake name than a real name anyways? Are they tied to subscriptions? If so, all the more reason they should be protected and kept free of trolls. After all, you are paying 100+ for that single game.

Morisato said,
Whats stopping someone from using a fake name than a real name anyways? Are they tied to subscriptions? If so, all the more reason they should be protected and kept free of trolls. After all, you are paying 100+ for that single game.

They are tied to your battle.net account which is required to play WoW or Starcraft II. Obviously you can create fake names but existing accounts dont have that luxury.

Morisato said,
Whats stopping someone from using a fake name than a real name anyways? Are they tied to subscriptions? If so, all the more reason they should be protected and kept free of trolls. After all, you are paying 100+ for that single game.

If your account is hacked, you may need to provide ID. If you used a fakename, you cant provide ID to prove its you who owns the account, so it would be lost.

Crompee said,

If your account is hacked, you may need to provide ID. If you used a fakename, you cant provide ID to prove its you who owns the account, so it would be lost.

Well, thank god for battle.net authenticators being free on the iPhone then, eh? Then again, I also bought an authenticator before I had an iPhone in the first place. $7.00 is a low price to pay for something you have possibly put days of 'work' into, no?

And since when has it been a requirement to provide an ID to prove it's your account? Last time a friend of mine got hacked, he had to scan one of his game CD-keys that are tied to the account to prove it's his.

Crompee said,

If your account is hacked, you may need to provide ID. If you used a fakename, you cant provide ID to prove its you who owns the account, so it would be lost.

What are you going to do, exactly, mail it to them?

I'm skeptical that it won't be extremely easy to fake your real name.... but if you play WoW and want to use the same Battle.Net ID, then they have your billing information. Maybe they will verify with credit card info or something? Basically means that if you let your children play Blizzard games online their is a chance that they might say some things in a forum that you don't want your name attached to....which I guess could be a good thing for Blizz's goals here.

Privacy is overrated. What the **** does it matter if people know your name etc. Just google my first name (Ambroos) and most results you'll find are about me. Don't see how those things could ever cause any harm.

this is a bad idea if it was just between friends i would be ok with it since i dont add people i dont know. but from what i understand they are doing it across the forums for all to see which is just stupid of blizzard.

read about this today. personally puts me off bnet games, although this will be coming to wow as well(which i have quit a few times now lolz)

Bad for privacy, I wouldn't want my real name out there. Considering the some of the people out there, you're likely to get stalked IRL.

CentralDogma said,
Bad for privacy, I wouldn't want my real name out there. Considering the some of the people out there, you're likely to get stalked IRL.

I have used my real name online since I was maybe 13 or something like that. I have yet to run into some stalker problems or any problems really. So I don't think those fears are realistic.

Just because you know my name doesn't mean you know where I live... And I don't have a very common name as you can see.

Hell I put my real picture next to my name lol

Frazell Thomas said,

I have used my real name online since I was maybe 13 or something like that. I have yet to run into some stalker problems or any problems really. So I don't think those fears are realistic.

Just because you know my name doesn't mean you know where I live... And I don't have a very common name as you can see.

Hell I put my real picture next to my name lol


Just means it's easier than ever for fraudsters to fraud you.

Frazell Thomas said,
So I don't think those fears are realistic.
Just because you know my name doesn't mean you know where I live... And I don't have a very common name as you can see.

Just because nothing has happened to you doesn't mean it can't and hasn't to others. Also, full name + location and someone can get your entire info, heck I've seen people gets someone's full info from working off just a first name.

Frazell Thomas said,

I have used my real name online since I was maybe 13 or something like that. I have yet to run into some stalker problems or any problems really. So I don't think those fears are realistic.

Just because you know my name doesn't mean you know where I live... And I don't have a very common name as you can see.

Hell I put my real picture next to my name lol

A quick google and I found out where you live and where you work. I don't want to stalk you though . Muhaahhahahahahahaha....

Anyway, you're the wrong gender to be stalked. Typically its the females who are stalked, you know?

Frazell Thomas said,

I have used my real name online since I was maybe 13 or something like that. I have yet to run into some stalker problems or any problems really. So I don't think those fears are realistic.

Just because you know my name doesn't mean you know where I live... And I don't have a very common name as you can see.

Hell I put my real picture next to my name lol

Change your name to Mandy and see how fast you get stalked.

Has it's good and bad. Those who do not care and have such names as like, John Smith, will most likely still troll, as how many smiths are there? Someone with a more original name might not, as he could be tracked. This leads to the next bad, you are basically saying who you are in a community of kids, who could end up causing havoc to some poor guy.
In the end, those who do not care will still do what they do, while those who do care would be sort of left out in the open....