Boot to desktop for Windows 8.1 could be for 'Kiosk mode', dashes our hopes a bit

Since the release of Windows 8, many users have been asking for Microsoft to let them boot directly to the desktop, instead of the new Start screen. The feature, which is quite trivial in the grand scheme of things, has yet to arrive for the platform and Microsoft has been quiet about the request.

Over the past few days, evidence and even a few sources, were chiming in about the feature claiming that Microsoft is working towards giving the consumer the option to bypass the Start screen upon boot. But, it looks like the previous string that highlighted this feature may not be as conclusive as previously thought.

A user on the My Digital Life forums is stating that the string that gave many users hope is actually tied to Kiosk mode for Windows 8 and does not actually bypass the Start screen.

twinui-CanSuppressStartScreen is related to a "kiosk mode" and I didn't find any other feature that it controls, at least in this early build. You'll have to set twinui-CanSuppressStartScreen to 1 in the ProductPolicies key (via ProductPolicyEditor from wsservice_crack) and create a DWORD key "KioskMode" in HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Exp lorer\StartMenu with value 1. Any user without admin rights then gets a blank screen instead of the start screen (it does not switch to desktop automatically, you can start any desktop or store app with the search charm though). 

Provided the above information is correct, it looks like the solid evidence may not be as conclusive as previously indicated. We only have this small bit of information to go on for now but Microsoft is expected to release a public preview of the platform in June which will clear up any confusion.

For now, it's all a rumor at this point and take any leaked information with a pinch of salt as anything could change before the release of the platform.

Source: My Digital Life | Image via Microsoft Portal

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Windows Nashville said,

Time to stop posting your worthless speculation as facts.

Going by these leaked builds, Windows 8.1 is certainly feature complete. At this point, they're tying up loose ends and prepping Q&A to meet the June deadline. They'll be signing off on that build very shortly. Early Windows 8 previews were done months in advance of being displayed.

Dot Matrix said,

Going by these leaked builds, Windows 8.1 is certainly feature complete. At this point, they're tying up loose ends and prepping Q&A to meet the June deadline. They'll be signing off on that build very shortly. Early Windows 8 previews were done months in advance of being displayed.

You have no idea, really.

A reply without addressing the issue, is that the best you can do?

Come nts like yours and this are pretty pointless aren't they.

As long as StartIsBack keeps working (i..e they don't remove the leftover Start Menu code from Windows), I'll be happy with Windows 8. I wonder what their telemetry data reveals about usage of Start Menu replacements; it must be a very significant portion of users. I know it's on every computer I've installed Windows 8 on.

I think that adding boot to desktop and a start button (maybe not the same old menu) would be a great thing and save Windows 8. Companies have to try new things but they also have to give their customers what they need - or someone else will. I purchased my family 3 copies of Win 8 and now none of them are being used!!! How can we not be using the latest and greatest for the first time since Win 95!!!

hopefully they fix windows 8 too by then... its not that hard release a Service pack or something....

BTW im wondering where its the service pack 2 for windows 7

I find it comical that a full screen start menu that you boot to, a hot corner start button, and the extra click to shutdown make Windows impossible to use.

I find it comical that Microsoft and their drones are so afraid of people having more choices and control over how they use windows. Software should conform to user, not the other way around. There is zero in Metro for kB/m users - its a giant step backwards to windows 1.0, not even the damn escape key works.

MVD said,
I find it comical that Microsoft and their drones are so afraid of people having more choices and control over how they use windows. Software should conform to user, not the other way around. There is zero in Metro for kB/m users - its a giant step backwards to windows 1.0, not even the damn escape key works.
My statement stands. Comparing this to Windows 1.0 is childish. Again, starting up into a full screen Start Menu/WinRT environment and hiding the start button until a hot corner is reached rendered Windows 8 the equivalent to Windows 1.0. Whenever I use Windows 8 as a desktop I login, click on Desktop, and rarely hit the Modern Environment. If my compute sessions consisted of 2 minute sessions I'd be livid at that lost 2-3 seconds. But mine don't.

NOOOOOOO, I can't deal with that one click that takes literally a second to do. I HATE YOU MICROSOFT! *pouts in a corner*

Yeah, that's you people.

MajinDark said
NOOOOOOO, I can't deal with that one click that takes literally a second to do. I HATE YOU MICROSOFT! *pouts in a corner*

Yeah, that's you people.

I know right, because one click was so difficult. If they wanted to, they could also just press Win+D..

I don't see the big deal about boot to desktop. I can see why it would be nice -- it saves you from 1 button click. But if that is what is holding you back from Windows 8... then you were never going to upgrade.

Protip: Whatever app is pinned in the top left corner of the start screen -- hitting enter will launch it. So just pin the Desktop there.

I think if MS adds a start button back (that still launches the start screen) -- that will be welcomed because people simply know it is there.

However, if people would just learn to use the start key on their keyboard they would be faster.

Not true. I upgraded to Windows 8 because I like having new software and upgrading typically before most others do. It just seems so silly to have search functionality that takes up the whole screen especially when you're on the desktop 99% of the time. What do you suppose the purpose of that is? That was one of the things that made me realize how annoying it was because it's a feature I use frequently enough and Win 8 wasn't enough of an upgrade functionally (for what I use it for -- gaming, minor video editing, minor image editing, coding, chatting) to leave it installed.

I wouldn't mind losing the traditional start menu for say a metro interface that flies out from the right and takes up like a 1/5th of the screen and provides similar functionality that way. I'd even get over how it categorizes the search items if they would let me stay on the traditional desktop.

It has nothing to do with learning to use the start key on the keyboard.

I feel like people shouldn't have to buy a third party tool just to get something that should ARGUABLY (but don't argue with me about it lol) be included. Or at least something that doesn't completely yank you back to metro just to provide quick search functionality.

KSib said,
I feel like people shouldn't have to buy a third party tool just to get something that should ARGUABLY (but don't argue with me about it lol) be included. Or at least something that doesn't completely yank you back to metro just to provide quick search functionality.

Last I checked, third-party GUI modifications are the greatest thing in the world over in Linux/Android land.

Is this proof that Linux is held to a lower standard than Windows?

I usually don't like third party GUI modifications as they don't work as well as if the original developer created them... and are usually buggy.

Joshie said,

Last I checked, third-party GUI modifications are the greatest thing in the world over in Linux/Android land.

Is this proof that Linux is held to a lower standard than Windows?


With Linux, you can remove or add any GUI you want and you can even modify the existing code if you wish (and have the know-how). Furthermore, the variety of GUIs in Linux is significant. There are full desktop environments like Gnome and KDE all the way to barebones WMs like Openbox (stacking) and Ratpoison (tiling).

With Windows, you can add a GUI but cannot really remove or change existing code.

i_was_here said,

With Linux, you can remove or add any GUI you want and you can even modify the existing code if you wish (and have the know-how). Furthermore, the variety of GUIs in Linux is significant. There are full desktop environments like Gnome and KDE all the way to barebones WMs like Openbox (stacking) and Ratpoison (tiling).

With Windows, you can add a GUI but cannot really remove or change existing code.


You seem to be misinformed or underinformed rather.
In Windows, even Windows 8. You can completely replace the entire shell. Yes no active explorer.exe but an entirely 3rd party shell.

Also even Windows 8 still supports 3d desktops, wobbly windows, fire windows, bubbles, everything. Pretty much entire Compiz is available on Windows.

Oh well. At this rate I'll just have to see what they're doing with Windows 9. I'm not missing much from 8 right now. I kind of miss the detailed task manager, but I like my glass and built in start orb functionality

Kushan said,
Windows 7 is the new XP.

You mean everybody hated it, called it childish and ugly, and swore they'd be better off sticking to Windows 2000 for the first half of its lifespan?

Or were just making an uninformed comment with no actual memory of Windows XP's launch?

Dot Matrix said,

Cool. What's in Windows 9?

Doesn't matter. What matters is that by then people will have learned enough about how to use Windows 8 that Windows 9 will have a very small learning curve... and people will magically think it's fixed and more intuitive.

Oh, and it will include all the changes made in Windows 8.1

Joshie said,
You mean everybody hated it, called it childish and ugly, and swore they'd be better off sticking to Windows 2000 for the first half of its lifespan?

Windows XP has a hideous blue-green-red interface and a ghastly start menu. Good thing you could turn that off, and nice to see a company like Microsoft making such options available for users that don't like the new interface.

Joshie said,

You mean everybody hated it, called it childish and ugly, and swore they'd be better off sticking to Windows 2000 for the first half of its lifespan?

Or were just making an uninformed comment with no actual memory of Windows XP's launch?

How you felt about XP clearly depended on whether you were coming from Windows 2000 or Windows 98/ME.

And anyway, the point I was making had nothing to do with the launch but rather how stubbornly the OS has stuck around and will stick around. People hated Vista and stuck with XP. A lot of people hate 8 and are sticking with 7. The end result is the OS will be around for a long time.

Buio said,

Windows XP has a hideous blue-green-red interface and a ghastly start menu. Good thing you could turn that off, and nice to see a company like Microsoft making such options available for users that don't like the new interface.

The irony was that having classic mode available did nothing to minimize the "Fisher Price OS" criticisms.

When it comes down to it, people just really, really like to complain.

Joshie said,


When it comes down to it, people just really, really like to complain.

Yes! especially when they have countless valid reasons for doing so, and windows 8 has given cash paying customers an endless supply of valid reasons, obviously.

I doubt they will add all that features in Windows 9 or that Windows 9 will be any good. So far Microsoft is more focused on tablets and you wont see any good feature for desktop users anymore!

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Good it made no sense to skip the start screen. If you want to get to the desktop it takes two seconds to click the tile. Modern apps are the future of Windows. It would only punish app developers to have consumers skipping the interface. MS is putting all of its effort into WinRT only to assist people in opting out? That makes no sense and would be incredibly damaging to their app store.

Avatar Roku said,
Good it made no sense to skip the start screen. If you want to get to the desktop it takes two seconds to click the tile. Modern apps are the future of Windows. It would only punish app developers to have consumers skipping the interface. MS is putting all of its effort into WinRT only to assist people in opting out? That makes no sense and would be incredibly damaging to their app store.

I disagree. My dad had a saying: "There is one key to sales, son. You just have to make it easy for the customer to give you their money." Whether we like it or not, many people want the UI to remain more or less the same as it's been for years.

Even if the users who desire to boot directly into desktop are in the minority, they still likely represent 100's of millions of potential buyers. MS might just make a ton of money by giving them what they want.