Browser Roundup: Internet Explorer, Chrome, Firefox and Opera

Things are heating up in the browser arena lately, and there's been a lot of news to cover. This segment brings you the latest news about all web browsers.

Internet Explorer: Last week, on HitsLink, a browser tracking web site, it was shown that for the month of June, Internet Explorer began to gain market share -- it gained 0.57 percent, which seems small on paper but is a huge increase in users for a browser that has been losing popularity for years. Internet Explorer claimed this share back from Firefox, which dropped from 25 percent share to 24 percent. Apparently the browser is still used by "more than 6 out of 10 people" and IE8 is used by "more than one in four users on the Web", according to Ars Technica.

Microsoft also launched IE9 platform preview 3 at an event in San Francisco last week - the latest iteration boasts how the browser effectively beats the competition on speed, with videos being shown, as well as a download being offered. The new browser offers Direct X 9 and 10 integration and uses the GPU for acceleration -- the browser can render interactive content at a higher frame rate then other browsers, as shown off in the video on Windows Team Blog.

Google Chrome: Chrome has overtaken Safari for third place overall on a weekly basis, making it the number three browser, behind Internet Explorer and Mozilla Firefox, with 28.5 percent market share. Apparently, Google Chrome's been in third place for a while, but it's the first time in the U.S. that it's beaten Apple's Safari, Engadget reports.

A Google employee also said that Google is currently experimenting with web applications further in Google Chrome, with new builds offering web applications that load in the background with constantly updated data - in web applications such as GMail.

 

Mozilla Firefox: Mozilla announced today that Firefox has reached over 2 billion add ons downloads, with 60,000 add ons in the extension gallery online, according to Mashable. Mozilla Firefox 4.0 is well underway with a beta expected in the near future after the early "Beta 1" was released on Mozilla servers last week, and then pulled shortly after - Firefox 4.0 will feature large improvements with a new, faster JavaScript engine, HTML5 support, new themes for Windows/Mac/Linux and more.

Mozilla also submitted its iPhone application - "Firefox home" to Apple for approval recently, and is awaiting the go-ahead from Apple to begin offering its app on the iPhone store. The application simply syncs the user's history to their phone -- the history is synchronized from the Mozilla Sync add on (Formerly Mozilla Weave) on the desktop. When clicked it sends the user to the built in Safari client.

Opera: Version 10.6 has just landed, hot on the heels of 10.5 -- it features WebM support (the first browser in final version to support it) and faster JavaScript support. To try it out, head over to the Opera website here.

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Ok, lets get a PERSPECTIVE at things. It seems none of you ever read a single line of statistics and source lookup. A huge slap to Neowin for not providing us with a SOURCE link to the stats. Anyhow, I've looked it up and here i believe this is the source: http://marketshare.hitslink.co...r-market-share.aspx?qprid=1

Here's the market share according to NetMarketShare for Opera between March and June: 2.37, 2.30, 2.43, 2.27%. Yes, there IS a 6% decrease from May to June, but 6% is NOT the figure of interest. Ever heard of a trend? Try to spot a trend for the Opera browser using the NetMarketShare figures. And please, please let me know if you spot one.

If I were to do a statistical test on these figures and try to publish the result as a graph like the one above, e v e r y o n e with some sense of logic would understand and notice the issue. I believe (and sincerely hope) that everyone does already.

Opera is my main, I do use Chrome to play around with though. Firefox is long gone off my system because it was slow and started to bug out on me.

Allot of people complain about Opera not having extensions, and I agree, but look at what these extensions did for FF, just slowed it down and make it a hog. Not sure anymore if I need or want all of these extensions in my browser.

Sethalos said,
Opera is my main, I do use Chrome to play around with though. Firefox is long gone off my system because it was slow and started to bug out on me.

Allot of people complain about Opera not having extensions, and I agree, but look at what these extensions did for FF, just slowed it down and make it a hog. Not sure anymore if I need or want all of these extensions in my browser.

maybe it's because there are way too many FF extensions installed. I have only FEW Firefox extensions installed (adblock plus & noscript) and combining them with the proper Firefox "tweaks", Firefox is hardly a problem on my XP computers.

Firefox isn't the only browser that has extensions, Sethalos. Check out Chrome versions 5 and greater. They too have extensions. I've installed AdThwart and Flashblock for Chrome. Even Apple Safari 5 has extensions though extensions in Safari 5 are hidden and you have to enable them manually.

I only use Opera to view simple web sites w/out all those flash-heavy stuff. I only use IE to visit the Windows Update site and download some updates from there.

Is it just me, or has Chrome been REALLY lagging on Neowin lately (when scrolling in the comments section of news posts)?

Problem doesn't exist in Firefox or Safari in Windows. Just Chrome... on my laptop and my quad-core desktop.

What about the upcoming Flock 3? Apparently it's gonna be using the Chromium codebase and WebKit and stuff. I'm a Firefox user myself, but I tried Flock 2 last year (that one used Gecko) and it was fun, albeit bloated a little bit. To me, it almost feels like Firefox with a new skin, but then, there's tons of features to better support social websites. However, maybe all browsers have that by now, I'm not even sure.

Anyway, great round-up article! I'll definitely update to Firefox 4 when it comes out, and of course I'll check IE9 because I assume it's gonna be pushed to us via Windows Update.

qdave said,
Never switched from ie and most likely wont do so in the future.

I wonder how many viruses/malware you have on your system by now. I dread to think...

LoveThePenguin said,

I wonder how many viruses/malware you have on your system by now. I dread to think...

IE8 on Windows 7/Vista is the most secure browser. It is much more secure than Firefox because of Protected Mode and SmartScreen Filter.

pezzonovante said,

IE8 on Windows 7/Vista is the most secure browser. It is much more secure than Firefox because of Protected Mode and SmartScreen Filter.

Does it still support ActiveX? If so then it's the most insecure browser. Sorry to burst your bubble.

same here, no adblocker. no flashget and the lack of noscript apllication makes all the other browsers unusable no matter how fast and pretty they are.

mattbiernat said,
same here, no adblocker. no flashget and the lack of noscript apllication makes all the other browsers unusable no matter how fast and pretty they are.

Agreed. Firefox beats all the others in terms of extensibility. I've tried chromium on Ubuntu, and while it's pretty good, it's bereft of functional addons, and does not permit the user to disable animation, so for those reasons it wont be replacing FF for me any time soon.

IntelliMoo said,
No true ad blocker, no true use. So Firefox FTW no matter what. lol

So true. Without an adblock plus the web is unusable these days. Oh and flash block as well for those annoying flash ads.

I'll never understand Opera's lack of browser market share. I've been using it for years and have always thought it be a very solid browser. I'm not going to say that it is the best, but it is far better than a lot of other browsers out there.

Zer0_II said,
I'll never understand Opera's lack of browser market share. I've been using it for years and have always thought it be a very solid browser. I'm not going to say that it is the best, but it is far better than a lot of other browsers out there.

In europe and in the mobile space it's got a much greater market share. In addition I don't pay much attention to net applications statistics because of their skewed numbers.

FF and Opera are the best browsers and IE 9 will be on par with the leage very soon and looks to be the best browser in the leage with gpu advantage for web loading. FF 4 is sick and Opera is awsome. Chrome is evil and IE 9 is rising.

it seems unfair to opera, i find opera to be faster, eat less resources and DO MORE than chrome and safari, even firefox without addons.

Opera its customizable, its the most standard compliant browser, did i say that its fast?

http://service.futuremark.com/...per/results.action?key=2w8T

its just unfair the whole hate against opera, they are inovators and its always improving their browser, they make it customizable and its a full experience out of box.

Anyways my prefered browser and default its firefox because of the addons, i wish that mozilla improve the speed and resource usage in the next version instead of focusing on a crappy copy Chrome UI...

eilegz said,
its just unfair the whole hate against opera,

IE/MS fb's hate opera because they filed a complaint against MS in europe, which ultimately led to the ballot browser screen. In the end it's a good thing for consumers, but they'll never admit that.

I'm using Chrome. I was using Firefox since back when it was was in its 1.x betas. I do miss the addons but I would miss the speed of Chrome more. Sort the speed out of Firefox and you'll win me back.

Opera, I just get the hold of that browser. It just feels a bit odd. Something feels like its missing.

I'm happy that Opera, the browser that forced a competitor to advertize their product, is losing market share. All browsers are free, so if your browser is better and you do your advertising, then anybody can win market share. No need to use lame tactics. As for the rest, it appears that Chrome, with its different look and advertizing is winning popularity. It is certainly not the fastest, and it is less standards based than most others as newest speed and standards test demonstrate http://www.engadget.com/2010/0...7-lead-the-pack-in-windows/

Charles Keledjian said,
All browsers are free, so if your browser is better and you do your advertising, then anybody can win market share. No need to use lame tactics.

You don't think including a browser in an OS that has a monopoly on the desktop market gives them an edge? The EU competition regulator didn't agree with you I'm afraid. Now I'm waiting for the US to adopt the same stance.

I'm using Opera for years now, with IE as backup when a site is doing some nasty IE only stuff.
It's for me feature complete (love mouse gestures), fast and have a nice UI.
Of course I have tried to work with FireFox, Chrome, Safari, etc. but I just love Opera and it's working great for me

After all these years...still using Opera. All the features I use are built in. Tried using other browsers but keep coming back to Opera.

I use K-Melon as the backup browser.

gameboy1977 said,
I really hate opera, because I tested it. I like IE and Safari, because they are simple to use.

are you serious, if you hate the inteface you can customize it you know

Been really liking this newer Opera lately. 10.54 was only out for a matter of days before 10.60, but it cranks!!

Didn't much like Opera at all during the 9x version, but it was always my default browser from version 5.04 up unti the 9x's.

Might get there again now!!

Seamonkey still rules for me.

From my experience, IE 8 seems sluggish even doing someting like openign a new tab. I don't dislike IE 8 except for the lack of most (add-ons) or other features I can get with/thru Firefox or Chrome. Chrome is faster to me than Firefox, but I don't like the lack of settings/options compared to IE/Firefox. Thankfully, it does have a lot of comparable or unique add-ons/extensions to compete with Firefox. Maybe I should have, but I've never tried Safari, primarily because I've always had the impression that it really didn't offer anything not available thru IE, Firefox, and/or Chrome. From my past experience, Opera is quite good and I've tried it many times over the last 12 years or so. But, I've always ended up going back to IE or Firefox (or now even Chrome).

For those that prefer Firefox, you might want to check out Pale Moon (http://www.palemoon.org), which is just Mozilla's Firefox optimized for modern processors. Firefox by default is NOT optimized so that it works for everyone/everything. Pay attention to the current news regarding Pale Moon at http://www.palemoon.org/news.html.

Kendra said,
From my experience, IE 8 seems sluggish even doing someting like openign a new tab. I don't dislike IE 8 except for the lack of most (add-ons) or other features I can get with/thru Firefox or Chrome. Chrome is faster to me than Firefox, but I don't like the lack of settings/options compared to IE/Firefox. Thankfully, it does have a lot of comparable or unique add-ons/extensions to compete with Firefox. Maybe I should have, but I've never tried Safari, primarily because I've always had the impression that it really didn't offer anything not available thru IE, Firefox, and/or Chrome. From my past experience, Opera is quite good and I've tried it many times over the last 12 years or so. But, I've always ended up going back to IE or Firefox (or now even Chrome).

For those that prefer Firefox, you might want to check out Pale Moon (http://www.palemoon.org), which is just Mozilla's Firefox optimized for modern processors. Firefox by default is NOT optimized so that it works for everyone/everything. Pay attention to the current news regarding Pale Moon at http://www.palemoon.org/news.html.

+1! People here must have really old computers, how can everything but chrome be slow? Firefox loads instantly on my system and performs well even with 20 tabs open, which is so not what I can say about IE8.
For the record, my system is a Q6600 with 4GB of ram ^^. Not bad, but definitely not the best by today's standards.

epk said,
+1! People here must have really old computers, how can everything but chrome be slow? Firefox loads instantly on my system and performs well even with 20 tabs open, which is so not what I can say about IE8.
For the record, my system is a Q6600 with 4GB of ram ^^. Not bad, but definitely not the best by today's standards.

I have an i7 930, 12GB RAM, Intel SSD and FireFox still loads like it's running on a 512MB Virtual Machine. When I click the Chrome button, it's open in the blink of an eye. When I click the FireFox button, I almost have time to check my email in Chrome in the meanwhile until it's started. For me, FireFox isn't any faster than Internet Explorer, except for loading sites themselves. But opening tabs and new windows takes just as long as IE.

It's not about specs, it's about relative performance. I have a Core i7 @4GHz, 6GB RAM and a Vertex LE SandForce SSD and Chrome is noticeably faster and more responsive than Firefox. And I found myself spending so long customising the interface each time when Chrome simply gets it right out-of-the-box.

I'll continue using Chrome until a better browser comes along, as I certainly don't have any allegiance to it.

Kendra said,
From my experience, IE 8 seems sluggish even doing someting like openign a new tab.

As with most things Microsoft, this is likely caused by third-party programs. Disable all addins and then try opening a new tab in IE. 90% of the time, removing all addins will cause tabs to load *instantly* in IE.

In my experience, the Sun Java plugin is usually what slows down IE the most on a clean machine run by a PC enthusiast. Disabling this one plugin is usually enough to solve the problem.

I'll stick with Firefox, the Underdog always wins the day when you least expect it. And where would any of the other browsers be had it not been for Firefox's continued innovation, it pushed everyone else to move forward, and it'll always do so.

I'm sorry but you can't stick to a product because it "used" to be innovative; afterall, IE was innovative in its day. No, the reality is that Firefox has fallen behind the times. It has poor standards support, poor performance, poor visuals and doesn't stand up well against the competition. The only thing it has going for it is the huge support for addons but they only further slow down the browsing experience.

kazuyenPH said,
What is the importance of BROWSER MARKET SHARE?

to determine what browser feature is dominate and code for it ?

what company are doing it right ?

kazuyenPH said,
What is the importance of BROWSER MARKET SHARE?

Control the browser market and you control the gateway to the internet - which in turn translates into search engine revenue, That's a > 10 billion dollar industry. So the clamouring for domination is understandable considering what's at stake.

LoveThePenguin said,

Control the browser market and you control the gateway to the internet - which in turn translates into search engine revenue, That's a > 10 billion dollar industry. So the clamouring for domination is understandable considering what's at stake.

Ok but honestly why should we as end users care? We all know the answer, it is just another thing to go all fanboy about.

Seems people need to root for their favorite web browser, favorite phone, favorite console like they are sports teams. Pretty sad but from an end user perspective that is about the only reason we should care whihc is not a real reason at all.

LoveThePenguin said,

Control the browser market and you control the gateway to the internet - which in turn translates into search engine revenue, That's a > 10 billion dollar industry. So the clamouring for domination is understandable considering what's at stake.

Market share equaling search revenue is a common misconception, it is only true for browsers that make specific deals with Google such as Firefox due to Google's search share and brand name dominating that market.

I'm using FireFox now but I guess I'll be using IE9 again instead of FireFox
(when IE9 is released or its beta)

As a long time user of Firefox, from it's Phoenix (0.7-ish) days to ~3.0 I have to agree that it became to cumbersome. That was the main reason I switched to Chrome/Chromium. There's just no way to have your main browser take 5-10 seconds to load. I still use it from time to time, but only when I need to download 20+ pics from a page, as there's still a few extensions I use in FF that just aren't available on Chrome - yet. It would be cool if Moz managed to make 4.0 great once again.

Intenet Explorer? Ha! Yeah, I used it - in 1999. Time has passed MS by while they stopped developing it for 5+ years. So unless they perform a miracle with IE9 and the rest of the browsers stand still, forget it.

Opera has always been a nice browser, but never really caught my attention despite many trials over the years. Safari? OMG no. Thanks for Webkit, but alas it sucks badly on Windows.

I'm always trying new builds, heck, I like to try them. But for the last year or so, Chrome simply rocks. And yes, to me it is rock solid, can't remember the last time it crashed.

Keep 'em browsers-a-comin'!!! Multiple choice is good. Use the browser YOU like and don't let anyone tell you otherwise. Google can have my browsing history. See if I care. Next site!

Frankenchrist said,
Intenet Explorer? Ha! Yeah, I used it - in 1999. Time has passed MS by while they stopped developing it for 5+ years. So unless they perform a miracle with IE9 and the rest of the browsers stand still, forget it.

They already have done that. Unless MS does something stupid the development previews put them, maybe not ahead like in the IE4 erra, but at least back on par with the other browsers, and ahead in many individual aspects.. If IE6 was Vista, and IE9 is gonna be Windows 7..

In the end there's no excuse for ME to be behind when they get serious, they have all the tools and manpower they needed to be a contender again. And personally I didn't mind IE7 and IE8, they worked find for most things.. Though I'm a Chrome user now..

Ryoken said,

They already have done that. Unless MS does something stupid the development previews put them, maybe not ahead like in the IE4 erra, but at least back on par with the other browsers, and ahead in many individual aspects.. If IE6 was Vista, and IE9 is gonna be Windows 7..

In the end there's no excuse for ME to be behind when they get serious, they have all the tools and manpower they needed to be a contender again. And personally I didn't mind IE7 and IE8, they worked find for most things.. Though I'm a Chrome user now..


IE8 is still in par with current browsers, and was ahead of the rest when ti was released.. but hey, its from MS so lets rip on it like good bandwagoneers.
IE9 will be ahead of any other browser, if they werent releasing information on what they where doing, Mozilla wasn't busy on the hardware support yet, or not as much.

And for using Chrome, have fun with a broken javascript engine and screwed up Flash
they ****ed up the javascript engine just for speed. amazing.
Feels like IE6 era all over again, having to make seperate parts of a website just for a broken browser.

Shadowzz said,

And for using Chrome, have fun with a broken javascript engine and screwed up Flash
they ****ed up the javascript engine just for speed. amazing.
Feels like IE6 era all over again, having to make seperate parts of a website just for a broken browser.

On par with current browsers? Cool, you continue thinking that.
Broken javascript engine? Have you ever tried running IE though the Sputnik Javascript Conformance tests? IE 8 and 9pre hangs on those tests. So yeah, you're right, and you probably think Netscape won the browser war too.

Frankenchrist said,

On par with current browsers? Cool, you continue thinking that.
Broken javascript engine? Have you ever tried running IE though the Sputnik Javascript Conformance tests? IE 8 and 9pre hangs on those tests. So yeah, you're right, and you probably think Netscape won the browser war too.

Just ran it on my Vista desktop.
Results FWIW: 5080p/166f

Frankenchrist said,
As a long time user of Firefox, from it's Phoenix (0.7-ish) days to ~3.0 I have to agree that it became to cumbersome. That was the main reason I switched to Chrome/Chromium.

I agree completely. I used Firefox as my default browser from when it was known as Phoenix but since Chrome came about I haven't looked back. Firefox is simply far too slow loading and if you install a few addons then it's simply ridiculous. I was constantly prompted about a new update for an addon that did absolutely nothing but slowed down my browser launch by 10+ secs.

Frankenchrist said,
Have you ever tried running IE though the Sputnik Javascript Conformance tests?

Real world compatibility != synthetic tests compatibility.

I guess a large amount of users onyl want a simple web browser, without spend any thoughts about it. Or maybe they hear what others say, and this is wrong.
Firefox= "Hey Fx have tons of great addons", unfortunately the user install one of the addons that slow down Fx or the complete system.
Chrome= They hear: "It's very fast, but it's google, it collect all your data."
Opera= I don't know exactly what's wrong with this browser, but the amount of users who use it is low, since years. I guess the GUI is too much for a lot of users.
IE= They hear: "Hey it's from MS, anything is better than this browser!"
Safari= "Sorry, I use a PC not a Mac".

However, from the user point of view, I am not surprised about this results.

Lastwebpage said,
I guess a large amount of users onyl want a simple web browser, without spend any thoughts about it. Or maybe they hear what others say, and this is wrong.
Firefox= "Hey Fx have tons of great addons", unfortunately the user install one of the addons that slow down Fx or the complete system.
Chrome= They hear: "It's very fast, but it's google, it collect all your data."
Opera= I don't know exactly what's wrong with this browser, but the amount of users who use it is low, since years. I guess the GUI is too much for a lot of users.
IE= They hear: "Hey it's from MS, anything is better than this browser!"
Safari= "Sorry, I use a PC not a Mac".

However, from the user point of view, I am not surprised about this results.


your pretty much dead on there, altho for Opera, its probably because most still remember the Free version and the Pay-for version. Where the free version was covered in ads and sucked majorly.
And for IE its funny how people rip on it, just because its from MS.

Vow_Z said,
I enjoy using Opera for its godly smooth scrolling.

Well there exist an addon for firefox that will do the smooth scrolling for you

eliokh said,

Well there exist an addon for firefox that will do the smooth scrolling for you


Smooth scrolling is already in Firefox, just disabled by default.

Options > Advanced > Browsing > [x] Use smooth scrolling

When Firefox 4 is released, people will have a very different view of Firefox. JaggerMonkey will be as fast as V8 and SunSpider, it will be 64-bit and will be much quicker at start-up.

ArKeYa said,
When FF4 gets released the other browsers have gone in another new leap.

And, that leap will initiate with the launch of FF4

Meph said,
When Firefox 4 is released, people will have a very different view of Firefox. JaggerMonkey will be as fast as V8 and SunSpider, it will be 64-bit and will be much quicker at start-up.

and it will have to go against Chrome 7 , IE9 and Safari 6

we will see how efficient FF then

Ci7 said,
and it will have to go against Chrome 7 , IE9 and Safari 6

With some luck Chrome 6 will be out by the end of the year. Highly unlikely that more than 2 major versions of Chrome are released in the same year. Internet Explorer 9 is currently scheduled for next year and Apple releasing Safari 6 before 2012 is highly unlikely given their glacial development speed when it comes to desktop Safari and OS X as a whole as of late.

Chrome works nicely for Windows but on OSX I stick to Firefox. It just works better than the competition despite having a longer startup time.

Have been a Chrome user, but since the last dev build I haven't been too keen. I have been using Firefox lately and I have been reminded why I liked it to begin with.. the addons. I am kind of excited about 4.0 news for Firefox... especially when I can see some OS X love.

Chrome FTW
I used to love FF but it became sooooo slow which was a shame as this was one of its main benefits when I started using it a few years back.

Chrome is fast plus the built in bookmark sync'ing makes it the best browser by a mile.

Chrome is the shizent stain. beauty!!! Ffox is shiny and become slowed down buy all of its billion addons eventually. IE=over flowing septic tank and opera sits there looking cool doing nothin

I'd use Opera if I could but there's been a lag of about 10 seconds between requesting a page and it starting to load since I jumped up from 10.10 (which was quite perfect) - might have something to do with the fact that I am behind a proxy. So I stopped using it. Firefox is just ugly (I use the Twenty10 theme to get around that), and it is extremely slow to startup (I open and close browser windows frequently), and it is quite unresponsive to be honest. Chrome is fast to startup and to load webpages. So I alternate between that and IE8 (which is equally fast and responsive) to browse and test pages I create.

Koshy John said,
I'd use Opera if I could but there's been a lag of about 10 seconds between requesting a page and it starting to load since I jumped up from 10.10 (which was quite perfect) - might have something to do with the fact that I am behind a proxy. So I stopped using it. Firefox is just ugly (I use the Twenty10 theme to get around that), and it is extremely slow to startup (I open and close browser windows frequently), and it is quite unresponsive to be honest. Chrome is fast to startup and to load webpages. So I alternate between that and IE8 (which is equally fast and responsive) to browse and test pages I create.

Opera = Ugly + Fast. IE = Ugly + Fast. Firefox = Slow. Chrome = Fast + Cool.

Jebadiah said,

Opera = Ugly + Fast. IE = Ugly + Fast. Firefox = Slow. Chrome = Fast + Cool.

From the screenies above. I'd say Opera is currently more handsome than FF. Anyways... Thats an opinion of taste, just like yours above.

Koshy John said,
I'd use Opera if I could but there's been a lag of about 10 seconds between requesting a page and it starting to load since I jumped up from 10.10 (which was quite perfect) - might have something to do with the fact that I am behind a proxy. So I stopped using it. Firefox is just ugly (I use the Twenty10 theme to get around that), and it is extremely slow to startup (I open and close browser windows frequently), and it is quite unresponsive to be honest. Chrome is fast to startup and to load webpages. So I alternate between that and IE8 (which is equally fast and responsive) to browse and test pages I create.

Opera is great... they just need a new CEO.. someone like Steve Jobs

Jebadiah said,

Opera = Ugly + Fast. IE = Ugly + Fast. Firefox = Slow. Chrome = Fast + Cool.


How is chrome cool, all browser besides IE look like the same goddamn browser.

dead.cell said,

No.

How About Opera is cool, super fast and awesome but i miss extensions. Give that to it and you get market share!

Redz0ne said,
The Ballot screen is really working for Opera

Its going to be the only 'major' browser without extensions. I dont even know why they consider them selves a major browser but whatever. Its the least competitive, even their level of whining cant fill that gap

thenonhacker said,
You forgot the /sarcasm
I love how some people can only tell sarcasm by the "/sarcasm"!!! Totally nails it! /sarcasm

thenonhacker said,
You forgot the /sarcasm
I love how some people can only tell sarcasm by the "/sarcasm"!!! Totally nails it! /sarcasm