Concept images reveal possible features in Windows 8

It shouldn't come as a surprise that Microsoft is always pulling ideas from multiple angles when trying to determine how to proceed with its next OS. If you don't try to innovate, then your product becomes stale and you will give up some market share.

With that in mind, it is no surprise that Microsoft is willing to try pretty drastic ideas in the concept stages to see if the features would actually be of value in the final OS that ships to consumers. Zdnet has uncovered some concept images that were submitted to Microsoft from their Microsoft R&D India arm.  Zdnet states: 

Microsoft R&D India was tasked last year with overseeing an “…academic – industry collaborative project…” consisting of the creation of “…new and innovative interfaces and user experiences for the next generation Operating system Windows 8 for information workers.”

The images posted show some of the concepts that were submitted to Microsoft that could potentially end up in Windows 8. The ideas, in a nutshell, consist of multiple desktops/flip and smart sticky notes. It should be noted that the desktop flip does look similar to the 3D flip that is currently in Windows 7 but Zdnet speculates that it may be part of the touch screen based UI. 

Also, the sticky note idea is nothing new, both OS X and Windows currently allow this feature but a few simple additions such as reminders (it pops up on the screen on a certain date) could be a welcomed addition.  

It is speculated that these pictures are only part of the puzzle and that there are more to the concepts that what the picture shows. Regardless, these concepts do provide a glimpse at what Microsoft has at least considered for its upcoming OS.  

 

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It is the most advanced feature that win8 will take for another amount of memory...
I think it will worth the money. MS cant do anything in windows, just making a new skin put some pity extra, and sell it.

jasonon said,
multiple desktops just like OS Lion i see i see

OMG. Um, this is such a no, I should capitalize it on several lines.

OS Lion is introducing a way to handle multiple desktop drawing/hosting for applications, which is something that has existed in Windows since NT 3.51 back in 1996.

whats their obsession with tiles, metro look and flip? it may look good on a phone "not" but on a pc it will be retarded. if windows 8 will look like & act like wp7 i may also switch to osx.

Here we go again.... depressed linux users that always say "COPIED!" for a minimum stupid thing. There are 1000 programs that give me those "smart" sticky notes in windows and so why Microsoft can't give me his version too?

KDE developers should be arrested for all the copies they made from OSX and Windows...

Get a life (and eventually a girlfriend).

fenderMarky said,
Here we go again.... depressed linux users that always say "COPIED!" for a minimum stupid thing. There are 1000 programs that give me those "smart" sticky notes in windows and so why Microsoft can't give me his version too?

KDE developers should be arrested for all the copies they made from OSX and Windows...

Get a life (and eventually a girlfriend).


Soooo true! Furthermore I doubt that all those feature they claim Microsoft to copy, were first developed for Linux. For example: Virtual Desktops were already present in 1985 (Amiga 1000), that's 6 years before anyone even heard of the Linux-kernel!

Microsoft takes the Linux UI Intefaces and say to the people who doesn't know about GNU/Linux

"hey, this interface its new in and we developed"

the proof, the Binary Copy of KDE4 and they called "Aero", and what now? the will copy XFCE or LXDE and say it's "Wind"?

i really dissaponted, i'm not running Linux cuz my family doesn't know how manage it, but i will teach they, in order to sweep out Windows.

i don't know, you guys, but i don't like plagiarism.

JosePanita said,
Microsoft takes the Linux UI Intefaces and say to the people who doesn't know about GNU/Linux

"hey, this interface its new in and we developed"

the proof, the Binary Copy of KDE4 and they called "Aero", and what now? the will copy XFCE or LXDE and say it's "Wind"?

i really dissaponted, i'm not running Linux cuz my family doesn't know how manage it, but i will teach they, in order to sweep out Windows.

i don't know, you guys, but i don't like plagiarism.

How do you explain KDE4 being released after DWM? Maybe Microsoft used a time machine to go into the future, get a copy of KDE4, go back in time by 5 years and put it into windows.

Roberticus said,
Anyone else noticed the "Advanced Desktop Mode and standard / classic mode"?

Wind vs Aero?

Nope, everyone is busy arguing the hell out of whether Microsoft implementing a useful feature to the other 90% of the world is good or not.

Yeah, here's a clue linux fanboys: multiple desktops have been around since Norton Desktop/Utils for Windows 3.1 before Linux (or you) were even a twinkle in your daddies eye.

Back then we used a REAL *nix OS - Sys V R4 bishes ROFL@linux

You can't implement a desktop flip that looks the same as window 3d flip, it'll be just confusing.
Also it's just a visual gimmick that doesn't add anything. They should make a visually pleasant way to switch desktops that also allows to easily drag windows across desktops and/or show live contents of several desktops at once, rather than being just pure bling.
Maybe something similar to Compiz's Expo plugin.

And while they are at adopting interesting features from other OSes they could also add the ability to drag and resize windows without needing to go searching for the borders or the titlebar.

Booo to Microsoft for adding new things to it's platform. Let's better stick to what we have already and stop any progress, I bet it would be the best thing ever.

I agree these are not innovative concepts, but they are new to the platform and might be very useful to have them integrated in the OS, IF ever. So stop bitchin' about something no one knows for sure.

YAY! Multiple Desktops! One thing I've always loved about Linux. It will be even greater if you can put each desktop on its own monitor. That could make for a wicked setup.

You can see the multiple desktops using a program in Windows. Although I don't remember which one, which you could zoom in and zoom out several desktops at the same time...

And yeah... That has been in most Linux distributions for quite some time...

Jose_49 said,
You can see the multiple desktops using a program in Windows. Although I don't remember which one, which you could zoom in and zoom out several desktops at the same time...

And yeah... That has been in most Linux distributions for quite some time...

I had something back when I first got my laptop that essentially turned my desktop into a rotatable 'cube'. It was a cool thing to have, but it was a separate program, not integrated, and slowed down my computer too much for my liking. (or maybe it was just that I still had vista at the time)

Jose_49 said,
You can see the multiple desktops using a program in Windows. Although I don't remember which one, which you could zoom in and zoom out several desktops at the same time...

And yeah... That has been in most Linux distributions for quite some time...

Dexpot is one of the better ones and offers Aeropeek integration to the Windows 7 taskbar.

WickedScribbler said,

Dexpot is one of the better ones and offers Aeropeek integration to the Windows 7 taskbar.


Dexpot would be the best one if the finally incude the "Persistent Taskbar". Because currently the taskbar is per desktop, which in my opinion defeats the purpose of the superbar!

LOl, who the hell cares if multiple desktops has been in linux forever? Give it a rest, it's something I've heard windows users would like to have. If it's something people want, enough of them, MS adds it. If MS takes an idea from something else it's bad now but all these years that Linux distros have been taking UI ideas from Windows and Mac it's been "innovation" right?

Tpiom said,
Multiple desktops?!

Windows is so far behind! It has been in most Linux distros forever...

It has been a part of TweakUI and PowerToys for Windows since at least with XP, can't remember if it was in 98 or not. Simply put, there have been freeware editions of this available for as long as I can remember, so development resources were probably not a priority.

schubb2003 said,

It has been a part of TweakUI and PowerToys for Windows since at least with XP, can't remember if it was in 98 or not. Simply put, there have been freeware editions of this available for as long as I can remember, so development resources were probably not a priority.

I do remember seeing a program that did that in Windows 98, not sure if it was the Powertoy version. Anyway I've never seen any need for it myself since I run all of my programs maximized making multiple desktops (or even one) pointless.

Tpiom said,
Multiple desktops?!

Windows is so far behind! It has been in most Linux distros forever...

OMG GUYS! DON'T IMPLEMENT A USEFUL FEATURE IF YOU WEREN'T THE FIRST TO DO IT! NO ONE WOULD BENEFIT FROM THAT!

Really, this crap is getting old. Every time a new OS comes out the first thing said is how it's copied from another system. Who the hell cares? If all of the OSes can share features (but implement them in their own way to individualize), then computing can evolve faster. Do you even begin to realize how many features each OS has gotten from other OSes? Every OS would be crap if you could never use a feature because something similar was on another OS.

Tpiom said,
Multiple desktops?!

Windows is so far behind! It has been in most Linux distros forever...


They did experiment with it in the early Longhorn alphas.

schubb2003 said,

It has been a part of TweakUI and PowerToys for Windows since at least with XP, can't remember if it was in 98 or not. Simply put, there have been freeware editions of this available for as long as I can remember, so development resources were probably not a priority.

NT4 had this basic feature (multiple desktops) just needed a resource kit tool (and later power toys) to use it, worked in future versions as well.

Must be the same as tablets, any real OS separation will be a bad move by MS. The OS needs to fit all models PC, phone, tablets. It needs to scale from one to the next, and needs to be able to run (or be able to run) all tablet/phone apps on the PC in much the same way as on the tablet. Having 2 completely different, or separate models of programs and styles, would be a really bad move. Larger tablets, smaller tablets, and phones all need to scale the exact same OS. That same OS should run on whatever hardware MS decides to plant the OS on. So I would guess that emulation for Win8 tablet apps must be built into the foundation of the OS, and everything else should be a customizable "by size of screen" experience. It all comes down to what percent of the public will be buying full size computers in 4 years? So take all extras and bloat out of the OS, then make it expand on any size device (in a usable way for that size), then make it emulate all tablet software and hardware on the PC. If not, we will have middle sized and large tablets with tons of wasted space, people who do not know (or care in 4 years) how to go from A to B to C, and the very next months Android 11.2.1 will have already fixed ANY downfalls of the Windows OS (released to the public as a mostly working beta).

(Haven't read other comments:)
"Microsoft R&D India was tasked last year with overseeing an “…academic - industry collaborative project…” consisting of the creation of “…new and innovative interfaces"

Nothing innovative here.........

rsvr85 said,
(Haven't read other comments:)
"Microsoft R&D India was tasked last year with overseeing an “…academic - industry collaborative project…” consisting of the creation of “…new and innovative interfaces"

Nothing innovative here.........


It's new and innovative for the Windows OS.

rsvr85 said,
(Haven't read other comments:)
"Microsoft R&D India was tasked last year with overseeing an “…academic - industry collaborative project…” consisting of the creation of “…new and innovative interfaces"

Nothing innovative here.........


Huh? So please explain to me what the "advanced desktop mode" is. Oh wait, that wasn't even explained here.

I think starting to judge W8 for copying based on concepts that may or may not be real is pretty harsh.
No offense but i could draw something crazy and send it in as a leak.

JosePanita said,
what a copy of GNU/Linux very dissapointing

If Microsoft imitates a feature in Linux, that would suggest that the feature in question is good. What dissappoints you when they implement a supposedly good idea?

JosePanita said,
what a copy of GNU/Linux very dissapointing

While multiple desktops are a part of other os' UI, it really would be nice to have a native implementation on windows.

That was one thing I hated when I switched between osx/linux and windows.

JosePanita said,
what a copy of GNU/Linux very dissapointing

If you are dissappointed with copies how come you use GNU/Linux which are abviously copies to the core? Double standards much?

James_H said,

If Microsoft imitates a feature in Linux, that would suggest that the feature in question is good. What dissappoints you when they implement a supposedly good idea?

Disappoints us that they consider it innovative when these desktop transitions and 'smart' sticky notes have been on Linux composited desktops for years now.

JosePanita said,
what a copy of GNU/Linux very dissapointing

My thoughts exactly. well about the copy of Linux. I'm not sure if that's disappointing though. It would be nice to see Windows implement features from other OSs. Makes it more appealing

Sacha said,

Disappoints us that they consider it innovative when these desktop transitions and 'smart' sticky notes have been on Linux composited desktops for years now.


Indeed if all of their "innovations" are already available on others OS's then I too will be dissappointed. I personnally prefer the OSX user experience, but I'm still with windows for its affordability. If Microsoft can't pick it up though, I might switch...

James_H said,

Indeed if all of their "innovations" are already available on others OS's then I too will be dissappointed. I personnally prefer the OSX user experience, but I'm still with windows for its affordability. If Microsoft can't pick it up though, I might switch...

Bye.

Sacha said,

Disappoints us that they consider it innovative when these desktop transitions and 'smart' sticky notes have been on Linux composited desktops for years now.

Well, it may not look innovative at first glance, due to the concept being available in other OS's, but keep in mind that they may be looking for a different way of doing it.

sviola said,

Well, it may not look innovative at first glance, due to the concept being available in other OS's, but keep in mind that they may be looking for a different way of doing it.


Good point

Sacha said,

Disappoints us that they consider it innovative when these desktop transitions and 'smart' sticky notes have been on Linux composited desktops for years now.

Originality, just for the sake of it, is rarely a good idea. I dont know why a lot of people expect radical changes every time a new OS is released. Is not necessary.

James_H said,

If Microsoft imitates a feature in Linux, that would suggest that the feature in question is good. What dissappoints you when they implement a supposedly good idea?

What is disappointing is that micro pinus i mean mikerowsoft actually charging you for what is available in a free os. Also why should they be allowed to copy from linux when they always bother linux with lawsuits. This is so hypocritical.

JosePanita said,
what a copy of GNU/Linux very dissapointing

it's not fair to call it a copy. the users are demanding these features. you can't call a feature a copy because it is considered a general function. (initially all operating systems SHouLD have had spaces etc...)

What the hell is with you and all the "copying" thing. Who cares if they copy a feature from another OS? If they do, it probably means that it's good.

JosePanita said,
what a copy of GNU/Linux very dissapointing

Holy freaking batcrap crazy...

A majority of the applications and interfaces in GNU/Linux are taken from Windows. This isn't just hyperbole, it is a fact of most of the GUI projects, as trying to look and work like Windows is easier to get people to migrate from Windows. (Sadly many of them still look like Windows95, which is apparently when most of the Linux community stopped using Windows and they don't realize things no longer look like that.)

Are you serious or being funny without a rimshot?

Sacha said,

Disappoints us that they consider it innovative when these desktop transitions and 'smart' sticky notes have been on Linux composited desktops for years now.

Ok, you and others are really missing the point.

These things have been on Windows for years too.
• Does no one remember Active Desktop from 1997?
• Did no one use the Microsoft virtual desktop powertoy in the 90s?
- There is one variation from a 3rd party I used on Windows 98 that did the whole spining of the desktop in a cube.
• Did no one use Xerox "Rooms" on Windows 3.0?
- PS Xerox Rooms was the original Virtual Desktop concept from the mid 80s, and was available on several OSes over the next few years. It was not a GNU/Linux creation, trust me or go look it up, as it has a patent.
• Does no one use any virtual desktop application on Windows today, really? There are tons of them, most of them free.
• Does no one use the Sticky Notes in Vista or Windows 7? It is built in, trust me.

Which brings me to what you and everyone else here seems to be missing.
THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH VIRTUAL DESKTOPS OR STICKY NOTES!

The first point is a variation on Virtual Desktops, with the more interesting aspect not mention or shown above, and is a new paradigm.

The second point is the 'smart' note concept that it draws context of what is in the note, and can 'react' based on what you are writing in the note.

So if you type:
-- Jane Doe 555-1111 Call about prescriptions tomorrow
On a Note, or wherever...
It adds Jane Doe to your contacts and adds a reminder to your calendar to call her and also makes sure your online and mobile devices have this information for you.

Seriously...
This is NOT about freaking Sticky Notes or 3D Compiz Virtual Desktops from freaking Linux.

Microsoft avoided the kernels and OS models used in Unix when they created NT because of the inherit flaws in the Unix OS model and kernel technologies, like Linux still uses. So I seriously doubt they are looking to Linux today to rip off outdated design ideas.


Did anyone else note, that these are only 'ideas' submitted from various sources at one Microsoft location in India?

JosePanita said,
what a copy of GNU/Linux very dissapointing

Lolz...Windows XP had Multiple desktop with Microsoft PowerToy tool.

Smart sticky notes? really ?
Nothing sticks out as really interesting to be honest, then again they are just concepts that may or may not be selected to be implemented in W8.

Azyr said,
Smart sticky notes? really ?
Nothing sticks out as really interesting to be honest, then again they are just concepts that may or may not be selected to be implemented in W8.

What's wrong with smart sticky notes? I think they could be very useful, they could even grab information from a news site or something. Or alert you when an email you've been waiting for comes.

De.Bug said,

What's wrong with smart sticky notes? I think they could be very useful, they could even grab information from a news site or something. Or alert you when an email you've been waiting for comes.

Yea, they could - but I was thinking of more general changes in the way the UI reacts - this kind of looks like re-polish, even the "multi desktop" isn't a new way that an UI reacts imo.

Azyr said,
Smart sticky notes? really ?
Nothing sticks out as really interesting to be honest, then again they are just concepts that may or may not be selected to be implemented in W8.

Sticky Notes are sooo 1980's.

De.Bug said,

What's wrong with smart sticky notes? I think they could be very useful, they could even grab information from a news site or something. Or alert you when an email you've been waiting for comes.

For a person who takes no notes smart sticky notes sounds like nothing. But to those who actually do its priceless.

Azyr said,
Smart sticky notes? really ?
Nothing sticks out as really interesting to be honest, then again they are just concepts that may or may not be selected to be implemented in W8.

I would lean more towards 'smart notes' in general, that could be implemented in various forms.

There is no reason that a note to do something doesn't add it to the calendar with the associated contact. Or an email can't be smart and realize you are asking for a meeting, and prompt to add the meeting when the person writes back and confirms. (Without the Outlook requests, etc - It just happens anywhere from anything.)

I can remember a Bill Gates presentation from around 1992 with a lot of this stuff, sadly the context recognition didn't mature very fast or have the connected information we do today.

Although some of this stuff has been common in several Microsoft technologies going back to the 90s, but hasn't made it to any mainstream products.

De.Bug said,

What's wrong with smart sticky notes? I think they could be very useful, they could even grab information from a news site or something. Or alert you when an email you've been waiting for comes.
because apple didn't come out with it first