Twitter account info to be released to Government in Wikileaks case

The ongoing Wikileaks story has taken a new turn with the US Government being given permission to obtain the Twitter account information of Icelandic Birgitta Jonsdottir, Dutch Rop Gonggrijp and American Jacob Appelbaum, all three associates of Julian Assange. The three had been fighting to keep their account information private, arguing that it goes against the US Constitution, however Judge Theresa Buchanan took sides with the Government saying, "the Twitter Order does not seek to control or direct the content of petitioners' speech or association," followed by explaining how the trio had "voluntarily conveyed their IP addresses to the Twitter website, thus exposing the information to a third party administrator, and thereby relinquishing any reasonable expectation of privacy.''

The American Civil Liberties Union does not agree with the ruling and plans to appeal as it is concerned about the privacy of Twitter users. "We are disappointed with the court's decision. The government should not be able to secretly gather private information related to individuals' Internet communications," "Unless the government obtains a warrant, individual users should have the right to find out about these orders and to go to court to challenge the government's justification for obtaining them" said the ACLU statement.

The Government is not seeking the original posts, but instead, wanted the IP addresses of all those involved which raises some questions and concerns about the future implications this court ruling may have for social networking and user privacy.

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Now is it only US IP addresses they are gathering, or will other nations' citizens have their privacy violated by the US Government?

martinDTanderson said,
Now is it only US IP addresses they are gathering, or will other nations' citizens have their privacy violated by the US Government?
Since the people of other nations have agreed to Twitter's terms and conditions and Twitter is a US company, the people of other nations have no say in the matter. If Twitter has a foreign office, then that foreign country could possibly force Twitter to not expose their citizens's personal information.

Well obviously that if there are government secrets they are sharing the government will issue an order to allow to do whatever they can to avoid that secret from being spread or known by the general public. All I see here IMO is a government trying to hide the **** they do from their citizens, since they believe they are some kind of gods that rule the world, and it'll never change.

I don't understand this whole hypocrisy argument. There is a HUGE difference between wanting to ensure that governments are transparent and your private life. I don't need someone to know every time I masturbate or every book I read, but I do want to know if my elected government is using funds to screw around, or if they are acting illegally. They are elected by the people, and must be accountable to the people. Private lives are not the issue here! I think politicians should have their privacy, but when they are using public funds or acting as representatives, they must be held accountable!

Please stop trying to argue that wikileaks people are hypocrites. It's a stupid thing to say.

Dazer said,
Please stop trying to argue that wikileaks people are hypocrites. It's a stupid thing to say.

Well what was Wikileak's motivation in publishing internal communications? Promote transparency, explore way in which decisions were made, expose possible ulterior motives? IF one takes the view that that's in the public interest, it's equally legitimate to consider that Wikileak's internal communications are of equal interest - why are we not entitled to explore Wikileak's decision making processes and motivation? And, of course, we can ask the same question as they ask - what does Wikileaks have to hide???

gb8080 said,

Well what was Wikileak's motivation in publishing internal communications? Promote transparency, explore way in which decisions were made, expose possible ulterior motives? IF one takes the view that that's in the public interest, it's equally legitimate to consider that Wikileak's internal communications are of equal interest - why are we not entitled to explore Wikileak's decision making processes and motivation? And, of course, we can ask the same question as they ask - what does Wikileaks have to hide???

good one.

gb8080 said,

Well what was Wikileak's motivation in publishing internal communications? Promote transparency, explore way in which decisions were made, expose possible ulterior motives? IF one takes the view that that's in the public interest, it's equally legitimate to consider that Wikileak's internal communications are of equal interest - why are we not entitled to explore Wikileak's decision making processes and motivation? And, of course, we can ask the same question as they ask - what does Wikileaks have to hide???
I am sure you can get your answers from Assange. Why are you ranting here? Go ask him and start a forum thread. We all would like to see what Assange has to say about your rhetoric.

Jebadiah said,
We all would like to see what Assange has to say about your rhetoric.

Well, let's all look at his tweets then! He favours transparency. So we should all see what he says in private to see if it matches his public rhetoric.

"True information does good" : Julian Assange. He keeps forgetting to explain that this is only true as long as it's other people's information and not his own.

The US are scared and paranoid and they go around preaching freedom of speech and claim to be a free country. Then in reality they only preach it when it suits them.

StevenNT said,
The US are scared and paranoid and they go around preaching freedom of speech and claim to be a free country. Then in reality they only preach it when it suits them.

+1

The US Government are a bunch of hypocrits.

darkthunder said,

+1

The US Government are a bunch of hypocrits.

Indeed, have been for a very long time and will be forever. Or at least until the general population gives a rats ass. Most could care less.

war said,
Indeed, have been for a very long time and will be forever. Or at least until the general population gives a rats ass. Most could care less.
"Couldn't".


And I agree.

Co_Co said,
you should make all your public and incriminating tweets from library computers, everyone knows that
And what about those dozen+ cameras? And let alone that most libraries (in my experience here in the US) require you to sign up first and sign in before you can use any computer.

paustin said,
It is ironic that they want to keep their personal information quiet while exposing others.....

Exactly what I was thinking.

chconline said,

Exactly what I was thinking.

How is exposing personal user information, the same thing as exposing dangerous government secrets? Secrets which are such, because the governments are afraid of the backlash from their own citizens.

darkthunder said,

How is exposing personal user information, the same thing as exposing dangerous government secrets? Secrets which are such, because the governments are afraid of the backlash from their own citizens.

There's so much backlash right now bro - look at all the riots/looting we have going on. What a pathetic argument.

paustin said,
It is ironic that they want to keep their personal information quiet while exposing others.....
Yeah that's what I don't care. Cause I know they (US Government) will never try this **** on me. I'd be their worst nightmare. Probably start WW3 on accident.

war said,
Yeah that's what I don't care. Cause I know they (US Government) will never try this **** on me. I'd be their worst nightmare. Probably start WW3 on accident.
.... yea, i'm sure you alone would be a total nightmare for the American Government.

war said,
Yeah that's what I don't care. Cause I know they (US Government) will never try this **** on me. I'd be their worst nightmare. Probably start WW3 on accident.
Comedian of the year.

uh huh.

read my comment above.

Welcome to the legalisation of Big Brother like dominance in Western civilisation ( the last hope left for individual freedom in the world). Individual privacy just got a shot in the foot!

Rahul Mulchandani said,
Welcome to the legalisation of Big Brother like dominance in Western civilisation ( the last hope left for individual freedom in the world). Individual privacy just got a shot in the foot!

This is not new, some of us who have a darker hue have been living this reality for the past couple of hundred years.
The ruling class just got tired of the gate keepers or buffers wanting more from them.
Welcome to the club.

Rahul Mulchandani said,
Welcome to the legalisation of Big Brother like dominance in Western civilisation ( the last hope left for individual freedom in the world). Individual privacy just got a shot in the foot!

England, to my understanding, is loaded with security cameras along the streets and everything, and America is headed that way. Seems like a good time for a revolution to me, let me whip out my constitution.

RichardK said,

How is this BS? If you don't want your information to be known, keep it to yourself.

When you signup to a website like Twitter, you expect your user details and information to remain with the site/company that you signed up to. There should be a disclaimer on every website henceforth that read:

"Your personal information may be sold or traded to US Government Officials."

darkthunder said,

When you signup to a website like Twitter, you expect your user details and information to remain with the site/company that you signed up to. There should be a disclaimer on every website henceforth that read:

"Your personal information may be sold or traded to US Government Officials."


Exactly... If you have committed no crime yourself, this shouldn't be a concern...

Northgrove said,
Exactly... If you have committed no crime yourself, this shouldn't be a concern...
First they came for the communists,
and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a communist.

Then they came for the trade unionists,
and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a trade unionist.

Then they came for the Jews,
and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a Jew.

Then they came for me
and there was no one left to speak out for me.

DerekMorgan said,
First they came for the communists,
and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a communist.

Then they came for the trade unionists,
and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a trade unionist.

Then they came for the Jews,
and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a Jew.

Then they came for me
and there was no one left to speak out for me.

Good one!

darkthunder said,

When you signup to a website like Twitter, you expect your user details and information to remain with the site/company that you signed up to. There should be a disclaimer on every website henceforth that read:

"Your personal information may be sold or traded to US Government Officials."

There is. Get off your lazy ass and do some research.

Law and Harm: We may disclose your information if we believe that it is reasonably necessary to comply with a law, regulation or legal request; to protect the safety of any person; to address fraud, security or technical issues; or to protect Twitter's rights or property.

Source: http://twitter.com/privacy