Crysis 2 leaks to the web

A few years back Crysis changed the landscape of the PC gaming market. Primarily because it came with, at that time, incredible graphics and demanding hardware requirements. That game is due for a sequel, Crysis 2, which is expected out in a few weeks. To the dismay of Crytek, a late development build of Crysis 2 has leaked to the web.

The leak, according to Facepunch.com, is now circulating on your favorite torrent site and is a playable build of the game. Not only did the game leak but also the DRM Solidshield master key files which will allow users to bypass the embedded DRM.  

A leak of a highly anticipated game spells bad news for Crytek as many users will most likely now pirate the game rather than paying for the retail product. With less revenue, it makes it harder to cover all of the costs associated with producing a tier 1 game such as Crysis.

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I don't feel one bit bad about this leak, after the epic hassle I had with their draconian DRM in my legitimately purchased crysis game two years ago I think this serves them right.

No only it's beta, but the max setting are MEDIUM even if you put it to MAX setting (if you look at the renderer) so, very very incomplete..

what i like most about these kind of leaks is the extra stuff like test levels, remember the hl2 leak, it had sh*t loads of test levels, that kind of stuff is pretty interesting on it's own.

micro said,
lol, the only point of ANYONE playing this leak is to see how the graphics are. Crysis games aren't going to win any medals for story. Lets be real here.

Haha, that is so true. If there is a demo ill just wait for that. Just to see if it will run on my pc. i cant be bothered wasting 10 gig for a benchmarking game

lol, the only point of ANYONE playing this leak is to see how the graphics are. Crysis games aren't going to win any medals for story. Lets be real here.

micro said,
lol, the only point of ANYONE playing this leak is to see how the graphics are. Crysis games aren't going to win any medals for story. Lets be real here.

Well just like COD series.. Crappy SP.. that's why i hate MP, company don't bother to do good SP and want to cash in MP

With this being a VERY beta leak(build date is over a month ago), and after playing it a bit, I am still buying the retail copy. It is no where near a final product, missing files, settings don't stick, missing dialog, etc...

Anyone that plays this leak and decides they don't need to buy the retail copy, well, they are not gamers. They are that guy who grabbed it for bragging rights.

This leak will NOT hurt sales.

i have the feeling that my keyboard and mouse won't even meet the requirements.i didn't like the first one anyway.I don't really get all the hype.I think companies like nvidia fund them to sell their cards.It feels like a dirty trick to create game just to sell vid-cards.I will never buy a card to play crysis but i would buy a complete system to play Diablo3

I hope it won't have too much of an affect, I played the demo for 369 and found the multiplayer so enjoyable that it made me say "I'm definitely buying this game".

Good thing they released it for consoles too, where the ratio of pirated games is much less than that of PC

Now, this isn't killing the game more than a released retail copy is...

I doubt that the beta-downloaders will stay with the beta once the game is fully released. Also, Crytek and/or EA should have protected the game better from their own people.

If anything concerning specific pirating happening to this is same as the first game which is because of the doubt and uncertainty instilled by the developers and without a demo or anything, nobody want to go spend $60+ on a game that runs like a power point presentation if at all.

This is one of the saddest issues that happened to the pc gaming industry recently. We're all losing with it in the long term.

It's unfinished/beta it leaked and yet yes this is bad for crytek. Although when it is released it will be thrown around the internet anyways. I have purchased the previous crysis game(s) with full intent on buying this one. I played the beta and its not as crashy as people above are making it buggy yes. But not one crash.

Dusco25 said,
I think this was leaked on purpose to give people a taste and make them want to go buy it

+1

Because :
a) it is just a beta.
b) you will not be able to play with a illegal copy and this game is purchased mainly by online gamers.

Dusco25 said,
I think this was leaked on purpose to give people a taste and make them want to go buy it

I agree. While cracks are usually the work of pirates, this is free publicity for the game.

DKAngel said,
yeah its dx9 and crashes alot by the looks of it whats the point anyways

The point? "DRM Solidshield master key files" That's the point.... you don't need to play this version if you don't want the keys will work on any version including the gold version. That is the point of it all which I'm not sure how Crytek will adjust for this.

Back in 2007 a British band Radiohead released a free music album. Yes free. It was illegally downloaded 240,000 times the first day on the torrents. Despite what they all say about trying it out and blah blah pirates are going to pirate no matter what and they actually have almost no impact on what would have actually sold.

shial said,
Back in 2007 a British band Radiohead released a free music album. Yes free. It was illegally downloaded 240,000 times the first day on the torrents. Despite what they all say about trying it out and blah blah pirates are going to pirate no matter what and they actually have almost no impact on what would have actually sold.

its not illegally downloaded if they torrented a free seed.

shial said,
Back in 2007 a British band Radiohead released a free music album. Yes free. It was illegally downloaded 240,000 times the first day on the torrents. Despite what they all say about trying it out and blah blah pirates are going to pirate no matter what and they actually have almost no impact on what would have actually sold.

That was their guilt for people having paid for KID A and AMNESIAC... ;O

shial said,
pirates are going to pirate no matter what and they actually have almost no impact on what would have actually sold.
With what evidence can you support that conjecture? If pirates didn't exist in the first place, they couldn't pirate - so that doesn't make sense.

Its a broken beta though, I.e. no updates, incompatible multiplayer, etc. Who knows, might generate some buzz for the real thing.

I've mentioned this in the other thread.
Pirates will just get this game anyway. They had no intention of buying the game anyway. It just means they can moan about it earlier.

If you were going to buy the game anyway. The leak will not change your mind.

"A leak of a highly anticipated game spells bad news for Crytek as many users will most likely now pirate the game rather than paying for the retail product. With less revenue, it makes it harder to cover all of the costs associated with producing a tier 1 game such as Crysis."

Oh gee, a leak spells bad news. As if there is no blockbuster game which doesn't get pirated/ cracked on day 0. The only thing that's different is that the pirated version in this case was released 1 month prior to the game even going retail, which means there will be a certain number of 12 years old pirate bay users who would have lost interest in the game by the time it's released.

"A leak of a highly anticipated game spells bad news for Crytek as many users will most likely now pirate the game rather than paying for the retail product. "
Yea... I doubt there will be a whole lot more pirating it now than if there were no leak.
Most pirates simply pirate games, they don't buy them no matter what, and then there are the few that pirate to try games before they buy and they would have bought it anyway. The rest are people who don't pirate and will buy the game either way...

Leonick said,
"A leak of a highly anticipated game spells bad news for Crytek as many users will most likely now pirate the game rather than paying for the retail product. "
Yea... I doubt there will be a whole lot more pirating it now than if there were no leak.
Most pirates simply pirate games, they don't buy them no matter what, and then there are the few that pirate to try games before they buy and they would have bought it anyway. The rest are people who don't pirate and will buy the game either way...

its because they earn so much money on people who buy it, then try it and wont like it and are basically stuck with a worthless game they spend 70euro's on.
thats where they lose their money on, impulse buys >.>

Shadowzz said,

its because they earn so much money on people who buy it, then try it and wont like it and are basically stuck with a worthless game they spend 70euro's on.
thats where they lose their money on, impulse buys >.>

Nah, the kind of people that will go out and buy or order crysis in an impulse purchase kind of way are usually among the people who don't pirate.

The pirates that pirate to try and buy if they like would just wait for a torrent to come up to be able to try it even if it took a week or two, most of them simply aren't the impulse buyer type.

The only way I see it actually hurting sales is if some of the try and buy pirates forgets that it's a beta and doesn't buy the full version due to some bug or something

Ah, cmon, this doesn't change a thing. When final version comes out it'll be cracked and downloaded a million times anyway. Plus this is just barely working.

John Freeman said,
Ah, cmon, this doesn't change a thing. When final version comes out it'll be cracked and downloaded a million times anyway. Plus this is just barely working.

^ This.

schiz-o-phren-ic said,
THIS is why PC gaming is on its last legs...

don't tell please it's impossible on xbox or ps3

iamawesomewicked: why not on high settings? Crytek deserves every bit of piracy. they dont deserve any money. the piracy is as the result of them being so obssessive on making demanding and unoptimized games.

pirate = dick!

Personally I'll wait for the release.

Thanks Neowin, for helping spread the news to potential pirates! I actually thought discussing piracy was against Neowin rules - I say ban everybody that has indicated they will/have be downloading this!

)-(orus said,
pirate = dick!

Personally I'll wait for the release.

Thanks Neowin, for helping spread the news to potential pirates! I actually thought discussing piracy was against Neowin rules - I say ban everybody that has indicated they will/have be downloading this!

Okay - why the irritation on *your* part?

If you work for Crytek, EA, or a distributor, I can see why you'd be irked (especially Crytek, as the leak indicates poor corporate security) - otherwise, the leak has no impact, given the state of the code.

1. The leak is (from observations) of very early code, and is not even of as solid quality as the MP demo for XB360.

2. The leak of the security tokens is fixable - generate a new token with no commonalities with the old and the problem is solved. (If you can't do that, then the security system/DRM was useless from the beginning, leak or not.)

3. Given those two points, the impact on sales will be little to none, especially in terms of PC sales.

PGHammer said,
Okay - why the irritation on *your* part?.
Bad quality code puts people off buying games. Those who aren't so bothered by the quality may no longer feel the need to purchase the game. It lowers expectations about the stability of the gaming market. It discourages developers from developing for the PC. And of course: leaking stuff like this is against the law.

Kirkburn said,
Bad quality code puts people off buying games. Those who aren't so bothered by the quality may no longer feel the need to purchase the game. It lowers expectations about the stability of the gaming market. It discourages developers from developing for the PC. And of course: leaking stuff like this is against the law.

The legal aspects are one thing (which is why I agreed that if you are *directly* impacted, you would have reason to be irked).

However, the code quality is known to be worse than that of the MP demo for the XB360, let alone the still-forthcoming demo for PC. If the code in the PC demo is still poor (highly unlikely), then Crytek would have a major problem (that still would have nothing to do with the leak).

Have we forgotten about two other major PC beta-code leaks (and I'm talking *since* the leak of Doom 3) - specifically, that of an early beta of UT3 and a similar leak of HL2? Neither leak impacted PC sales one iota. (In fact, both became multiple Game of the Year award winners.) Also, why would poor corporate security (which ANY leak of code highlights) discourage PC game development? If it were a true discouragement (which I don't believe), why is Valve *still* doing PC game development? It can be used as an *excuse* by game developers - however, any excuse-huntiung means that the developers weren't serious (about either PC-game development or security).

PGHammer said,
Have we forgotten about two other major PC beta-code leaks (and I'm talking *since* the leak of Doom 3) - specifically, that of an early beta of UT3 and a similar leak of HL2?
You said it yourself: early beta. Hell, HL2 was early alpha, if that. This doesn't sound like an early beta of Crysis.

No, a leak of code doesn't necessarily indicate poor security - it could be leaked by someone who was justifiably allowed to have access to the code.

saw it today on torrents...not worth it. why spoil the experiance untill Crytek releases a properly fine tuend game.

9Gb of freebie. Thanks Crytek. Though you have to note this is still a beta but near final enough to be fully playable.

Shining Arcanine said,
People keep saying that this will harm sales, but there is a possibility that it will actually increase them. A study in Japan showed that piracy increased DVD sales. The same could be true for video games.
Japanese tentacle rape videos and western video games are very different things.

hdood said,
Japanese tentacle rape videos and western video games are very different things.

its actually true that piracy actually improves sales for GOOD games, music and movies. it only costs money to the big crappy companies (hi EA! *waves*).
I found music, games and movies i would've NEVER heard off if it wasnt for piracy.
3 cheers for piracy!

It happened to Doom III, it happened to Halo 3 and Reach, it happened to Half Life.

Those games all had horrible sales because of piracy! Right?

Unwonted said,
It happened to Doom III, it happened to Halo 3 and Reach, it happened to Half Life.

Those games all had horrible sales because of piracy! Right?

+1

Unwonted said,
It happened to Doom III, it happened to Halo 3 and Reach, it happened to Half Life.

Those games all had horrible sales because of piracy! Right?


Don't forget to mention:
CoDs,

Yeah, I remember back when this happened to Half-Life 2. Valve made no money, swore off PC development, and closed shop shortly thereafter.

Oh wait...

random_n said,
Yeah, I remember back when this happened to Half-Life 2. Valve made no money, swore off PC development, and closed shop shortly thereafter.

Oh wait...

Yeah man I wish Valve would just do one good thing for computing like even some sort of online sales platform or release more games on PC other than Half-Life 1!

What a damn shame. I was really hoping this wouldn't happen. PC gaming is quite volatile and nowhere near as "stable" as it was in the past. It's no wonder more and more developers are looking to consoles to sell games. As DL said, Crytek deserves better.

This is what happens when you betray your home market and give a much anticipated demo to the ones who won't appreciate it half as much. Crytek sold out completely to Microsoft and Nvidia, and I am not happy at all.

Reacon said,
This is what happens when you betray your home market and give a much anticipated demo to the ones who won't appreciate it half as much. Crytek sold out completely to Microsoft and Nvidia, and I am not happy at all.

or giving us crappy xbox ports with poor keyboard/mouse controls!!!!!

FU game developers! They been threating their consumers so horridly the past decade, that offcourse piracy (harr harr i b a pyrat!) goes wild...
its legal to download copyrighted material and use it for yourself in the Netherlands \o/ am so glad with that, still buy decent games, but saved me from buying a f*ckload of games which wouldnt've been worth it.

Reacon said,
This is what happens when you betray your home market and give a much anticipated demo to the ones who won't appreciate it half as much. Crytek sold out completely to Microsoft and Nvidia, and I am not happy at all.
How on EARTH does that result in a leak? Do you have any reason at all to substantiate that?

Shadowzz said,

offcourse piracy (harr harr i b a pyrat!) goes wild...
its legal to download copyrighted material and use it for yourself in the Netherlands \o/ am so glad with that,

Watafak? Is the paradise there? lol! Legal Hashish, Legal Downloads... I'm native European, time to move over there!

I know games leak, but this sucks for Crytek, it really does. Hard to explain exactly why, but I just feel they deserve better then this from the PC community. They gave a lot to the PC gaming community, "but it can it play crysis" literally defined PC graphics for a good few years.

I for one still fully plan on purchasing this Day 1 for the PC. And I hope everyone else plans on still doing the same. PC sales need to not be affected by this, or that pretty much seals the fate of Cryteks support on the PC. Whether or not their latest game is now being released on consoles, and whether or not they did release a demo on the consoles and not the PC, I just feel this is a low blow. If anything it now FORCES them to shift their focus predominately towards consoles. One could argue they were doing that already, but this move now solidifies the fact. Again, this may have been the case anyway, and the consoles may very well be their platforms of choice now, but I really feel this whole leak very well may seal the deal if it has an adverse effect on the sales of the PC version.

With all that said, I personally prefer to see the game in all of it's Direct X 11 glory and not the gimped DX9 version this leak supposedly is. Hell, Crysis 2 in DX11 itself is a huge reason why I now own 2 460 GTX's in SLi.

Reacon said,
Good for you on owning a Nvidia card, seeing as CryEngine3 will not support DX11 on ATI cards because Nvidia gave them loads of money. DX11 is a unified platform. Don't believe the bs about ATi just not conforming to "standards". DX11 is a standard, there's no effing difference.

Crytek's lost sale is not due to the beta, but this action it itself. They don't deserve my money if they're going to sell out and leave the people who spent 300+$ on ATi cards in the dust.

I'm going to download this and play it to my hearts content. F*** you Crytek. Seriously, f*** you.

Of course DX11 will work on ATI cards. Just because it's sponsored by Nvidia doesn't mean it Won't work?

TRC Bear said,

Of course DX11 will work on ATI cards. Just because it's sponsored by Nvidia doesn't mean it Won't work?

No. They removed support for DX11 on ATi cards. From what I heard.

Reacon said,

No. They removed support for DX11 on ATi cards.

Source? So far I haven't been able to yield any results when searching for Crysis 2 not supporting DX11 on an AMD card. Which btw, doesn't really make any sense as it doesn't matter whether the card is nVidia or AMD, if the game supports DX11 then any DX11 card will work just fine. I think you may be misunderstanding something.

Reacon said,

No. They removed support for DX11 on ATi cards. From what I heard.

Reacon, I haven't found any evidence that support was removed for ati/amd cards. Just bought a 6870 in order to crossfire it with an eventual cpu upgrade to sandy bridge. I would really be disappointed if you were proven right, but I highly doubt it

However I did find plenty of videos saying 5870x2 "slices through Cryengine 3 like butter".... although not mentioning if dx11 is involved.

This video is a developer tech demo (very interesting) showing the ati logo in the intro, which makes me believe ati is part of the development and wouldn't allow this. Plus they supported dx11 first and IMO still do it better.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...PgnFaKk&feature=related

actually I just "listened" to the video and they say its running dx11. Anyway lets hope for the best! And if not some hacker dude will provide us a nice fix so that your system reports an nvidia gpu to the game. It's been seen before.

Edited by wwphil, Feb 12 2011, 6:34am : new info

Reacon said,

No. They removed support for DX11 on ATi cards. From what I heard.

Hahaha if this isn't a troll you are severely misinformed

TRC Bear said,

Of course DX11 will work on ATI cards. Just because it's sponsored by Nvidia doesn't mean it Won't work?

However, *if* the developer (Crytek in this case) tacked on specific features that are supported *only* on nVidia hardware (which is pretty much the only reason that a GPU developer, be it nVidia or AMD, would have their logo on the game), that does do a disservice to the gaming community at large.

On the subject of the leak - it has nada to do with the PC gaming community at all. All a leak (any leak) of preliminary game code indicates is poor responsibility-taking (by the leaker) and shoddy corporate security (on the part of the leak victim, if the leak came from in-house, as it did in this case). Nothing more, and nothing less.

PGHammer said,

However, *if* the developer (Crytek in this case) tacked on specific features that are supported *only* on nVidia hardware (which is pretty much the only reason that a GPU developer, be it nVidia or AMD, would have their logo on the game), that does do a disservice to the gaming community at large.

On the subject of the leak - it has nada to do with the PC gaming community at all. All a leak (any leak) of preliminary game code indicates is poor responsibility-taking (by the leaker) and shoddy corporate security (on the part of the leak victim, if the leak came from in-house, as it did in this case). Nothing more, and nothing less.


like PhysX? or unreal engine games that run so much smoother on Nvidia's then AMDs?
hate it when they develop it mainly for 1 brand of GFX and not at least Nvidia & AMD (screw intel!)

Shadowzz said,

like PhysX? or unreal engine games that run so much smoother on Nvidia's then AMDs?
hate it when they develop it mainly for 1 brand of GFX and not at least Nvidia & AMD (screw intel!)

In the case of UE3, the PhysX decision was prior to their acquisition by nVidia (also, different UE3-engined games use the engine features differently - UT3 uses it differently than Gears of War, for example. In fact, I can play GoW at a taller resolution and taller LoD than UT3 on the same hardware, which includes an AMD (not nV) GPU, and no PhysX support) - even then, I'd still call the decision to do so *wrong* and fracturing.

Reacon said,

No. They removed support for DX11 on ATi cards. From what I heard.

If it's true, then AMD paid a Crytek's Developer to release in the wild the game.

Just a thought!

Specs... Want to know specs.... The real thing, now that the game has leaked .

Edit: Was looking for it... It says Crysis 2 Beta Full.... What's the difference from the original version?

"spells bad news for Crytek as many users will most likely now pirate the game rather than paying for the retail product. With less revenue, it makes it harder to cover all of the costs associated with producing a tier 1 game such as Crysis."

Oh, come on. When did you become the all-knowing authority that knows what people are "most-likely" going to do. I would say that most users are "most-likely" going to pay for a multiplayer game. Piracy would happen regardless of a leak. It is purely speculative to conclude that this will negatively affect sales. Even after it is formally released, it will still be impossible to tell how this has affected sales.

If they make a good game, people will pay for it. Especially since the selling point of a lot of these games is the multiplayer component.

I really doubt that a nearly feature complete game leaking to the web 49 days early is going to help sales...if you can justify that it will boost sales, i'm all ears.

bdsams said,
I really doubt that a nearly feature complete game leaking to the web 49 days early is going to help sales...if you can justify that it will boost sales, i'm all ears.

Every single one of us has bought a game that we've played before, so saying "I've played this game thus I will not buy it" doesn't really work. Especially if the multiplayer is as good as they claim...

Unwonted said,
Every single one of us has bought a game that we've played before, so saying "I've played this game thus I will not buy it" doesn't really work. Especially if the multiplayer is as good as they claim...
Every single one of us has bought a game after having access to a full pirated copy? That's quite a claim.

It's a shame a large number of people will download this and later complain when Crytek will no longer develop for the PC.

FlintyV said,
It's a shame a large number of people will download this and later complain when Crytek will no longer develop for the PC.

Why would they blame anyone but themselves for this? Someone from there company leaked it.

FlintyV said,
It's a shame a large number of people will download this and later complain when Crytek will no longer develop for the PC.

Blame the pirates not the PC user base.

FlintyV said,
It's a shame a large number of people will download this and later complain when Crytek will no longer develop for the PC.

Eh, I can see how this could go both ways. I'd say it's extremely discouraging to see someone releasing it on a torrent site, but at the same time the same thing could happen for users who happen to own a hacked PS3/XBox 360 that will play burned discs, so it's not like going over to consoles only will solve this problem for future games.

FlintyV said,
It's a shame a large number of people will download this and later complain when Crytek will no longer develop for the PC.

You say that like Consoles have a less pirate rating?

Its the DRM which causes pirates on PC these days... Anyway they might actually get some good feedback out of it

brent3000 said,

You say that like Consoles have a less pirate rating?

Its the DRM which causes pirates on PC these days... Anyway they might actually get some good feedback out of it

yeah right, it's the people not wanting to pay for something that they can get for free, simple as that. Don't try to make it sound like it is for a good cause

IMO this wouldn't have happened or not as many people would have downloaded this if Crytek released a PC demo.

Xilo said,
IMO this wouldn't have happened or not as many people would have downloaded this if Crytek released a PC demo.

Seriously? What a silly notion. A demo would not have stopped a leak. That's like saying, if I don't eat toast in the morning, China will have an earthquake. Totally unrelated and pointless.

nekkidtruth said,

Seriously? What a silly notion. A demo would not have stopped a leak. That's like saying, if I don't eat toast in the morning, China will have an earthquake. Totally unrelated and pointless.


No, it wouldn't have stopped the leak. However, people like to try out the game before they buy to see if it's worth buying. I know I do it quite often on Steam and PSN. With no demo, the only way to test it out is to pirate it.

Xilo said,

No, it wouldn't have stopped the leak. However, people like to try out the game before they buy to see if it's worth buying. I know I do it quite often on Steam and PSN. With no demo, the only way to test it out is to pirate it.

You said "IMO this wouldn't have happened". That indicates that you believe the leak took place because there was no demo. Which is of course, makes no sense. Now, if you were to say something like "If you released a demo, less people would pirate!" which you sort of tacked on the end of your comment, that would make more sense. The fact remains, the game was leaked and it has nothing to do with whether there is a demo or not.

nekkidtruth said,

Seriously? What a silly notion. A demo would not have stopped a leak. That's like saying, if I don't eat toast in the morning, China will have an earthquake. Totally unrelated and pointless.


You are really, really bad at analogies.

bob_c_b said,

You are really, really bad at analogies.

Is that so? The whole point was to use a totally horrible analogy that made no sense what-so-ever. Such as his statement that this wouldn't have leaked had there been a demo. I'm sorry you failed to comprehend that.

Xilo said,

No, it wouldn't have stopped the leak. However, people like to try out the game before they buy to see if it's worth buying. I know I do it quite often on Steam and PSN. With no demo, the only way to test it out is to pirate it.

so if you want to test drive a ferrari, you will steal it from the dealer?

nekrosoft13 said,

so if you want to test drive a ferrari, you will steal it from the dealer?


Dealers let you test drive. Hence, you don't have to steal.

nekrosoft13 said,

so if you want to test drive a ferrari, you will steal it from the dealer?

What exactly does this have to do with this conversation? This isn't a debate about whether pirating software is stealing. You should try reading before replying. The original statement claims if there was a demo, there would never have been a leak. Which is ridiculous to say the least. You can crawl back into your hole now.

Xilo said,

No, it wouldn't have stopped the leak. However, people like to try out the game before they buy to see if it's worth buying. I know I do it quite often on Steam and PSN. With no demo, the only way to test it out is to pirate it.

Is it even up for sale yet?

Xilo said,
IMO this wouldn't have happened or not as many people would have downloaded this if Crytek released a PC demo.

I understand what you mean, plain and simple there is going to be a lot of people that download this to try it out. If there was a demo available then you download that knowing its legal and you make your decision to buy or not.

I really do wonder why some people get so frustrated by other users opinions and fell the need mock them in their reply. Go make your own forum and mock everyone who joins, see how many followers you get..

bob_c_b said,

You are really, really bad at analogies.

And you are really, really bad at understanding English.

The whole point of his comment was that it was SUPPOSED to be a bad analogy, just as bad as "if they had released a demo, the game wouldn't have been leaked".

Xilo said,

Dealers let you test drive. Hence, you don't have to steal.

By your analogy a demo=test drive. Guess what this dealer does not let you test drive the product because it is not released yet. Do you understand the analogy?

deuz said,

By your analogy a demo=test drive. Guess what this dealer does not let you test drive the product because it is not released yet. Do you understand the analogy?

Ferrari's also cost several hundred thousand dollars. Cars depreciate the more you drive it. Most people cannot afford one. Your analogy is invalid.

Xilo said,

Ferrari's also cost several hundred thousand dollars. Cars depreciate the more you drive it. Most people cannot afford one. Your analogy is invalid.

How the hell did you guys manage to get on the topic of the cost of a ferrari from a news report about a game leak????!!

superconductive said,

How the hell did you guys manage to get on the topic of the cost of a ferrari from a news report about a game leak????!!

They're too busy trying to figure out who is wrong to worry about intelligence in conversation.

Xilo said,

Ferrari's also cost several hundred thousand dollars. Cars depreciate the more you drive it. Most people cannot afford one. Your analogy is invalid.

but does ferrari advertise to the average joe? i think think not. Ferrari meets specific niches. crysis on the other hand is mass marketed. Your analogy is invalid.

Xilo said,

Ferrari's also cost several hundred thousand dollars. Cars depreciate the more you drive it. Most people cannot afford one. Your analogy is invalid.

If your that stupid, to not understand the posts, dont post. . Ferrari is an example. Analogies are not literal. Go back to school.