Dell will keep selling Windows 7 PCs after Windows 8 launch

Remember when buying a new PC with Windows Vista became more or less impossible just a few months after Windows 7 launched? That apparently won't be the case with the transition between Windows 7 and Windows 8. Dell has already admitted that it will continue to sell new PCs with Windows 7 pre-installed well after the launch of Windows 8 on October 26th.

PCWorld.com reports that, according to Dell's Alison Gardner, "We’re still moving our business customers from [Windows] XP to Windows 7." For those large businesses, Dell will continue to offer Windows 7 installations on new Latitude, OptiPlex and Precision PCs. Dell is also  recommending to big companies that they don't make the switch from Windows XP to Windows 8 unless they need PCs with touch screen hardware. Gardner added, "The OS migration for a large company is no small feat. We make it easier but it takes some planning and work."

Dell's Alienware division, which offers gaming PCs, will also offer Windows 7 as an install option after Windows 8 launches. Gardner said, "For Alienware customers, they know what they want and we give them that choice."

So far, Microsoft has yet to announce a cut-off date for when OEMs can stop selling new PCs with Windows 7 installed. Microsoft allowed PC hardware companies to sell machines with Windows XP pre-installed until October 2010. The cut off date for Windows Vista, which failed to gain as much traction in the market, was in October 2011.

Source: PCWorld.com | Image via Dell

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We already have a memo out to our bigger clients to order in their new PC's now before Win8 comes out, so they can use Win7

If the had any sense they would partner with Canonical. OEMs joining together to crush Microsoft, that's all I'm interested in reading in relation to Microsoft news.

jasonon said,
they should just force windows 8 on people so that they begin to learn the ways of the metro
You got that Right! The only thing that keep me From 8 full time is Mce Hate paying for hardware That cannot use without paying another fee to use it stay on 7 for awhile longer

Windows 8 will appeal to all those who have something in their pockets bigger than their dicks It's a smart phone/tablet world unfortunately, but it sizes up pretty well with what they have to compare it to, nothing

When you call any tech support or sales line, if you get a response you believe is wrong, you always have the right to ask for 2nd level support or a supervisor. Remember most front line call center people make between min. wage and $12 bucks an hour. Which means you will come across call center staff that either don't care about their job or are winging it because they are doing it for the paycheck and could care less about tech. (NOT SAYING ALL ARE JUST THAT IT HAPPENS).
As to the Windows 7 OEM sells, someone correct me if I'm wrong but I don't recall Microsoft announcing that Windows 7 will stop being allowed by OEMs yet. Once they do, you can bet to hear from Neowin and every other tech site on the planet with posts of "hurry before its to late to get W7" .... In addition, yes you do have the right to downgrade, all the way to Vista but that rule comes from Microsoft, the OEMs unless they specifically say they will (and probably charge you a downgrade fee that is usually $50 to $75) don't like to go there. OEMs like HP, DELL, Lenovo build their equipment in an assembly line, and with a minimal changes, that is why they can charge the low rates that they do. When some one asks for a "One Off" request (No they do not get 100s of daily requests to go back to visita) then they have to get someone (that they have to pay a wage to) to work on a "One Off" process.
This is why you pay so much more with Allienware and other high end equipment, you are paying for the right to have them build more "One Off" equipment and the labor (wages) that takes.

Those are my 2 cents
Alex
Head of TechGeekandMore.com

ya agreed.
i know Sprints call center tech support hired anyone with no experience.
they made people take a typing test which was a joke (didn't matter how bad you were)
then a couple weeks classroom paid orientation and tutorials on how to use one program.
.. congrats your a leet tech support pro now lol

I talked to 2 sales people at Dell and the first one said Win 7 will be in limited supply after Win 8 comes out. Neither knew of the 'downgrade' option and one said you would have to install Win 7 with the CD to downgrade..... are they not revealing the truth or just ignorant? I still don't know if an individual, not a business, can get a new PC with Win7 on it, after Win 8 is released or for how long. The 'downgrade' option sounded like the solution, but not according to Dell.

leeShell said,
I talked to 2 sales people at Dell and the first one said Win 7 will be in limited supply after Win 8 comes out. Neither knew of the 'downgrade' option and one said you would have to install Win 7 with the CD to downgrade..... are they not revealing the truth or just ignorant? I still don't know if an individual, not a business, can get a new PC with Win7 on it, after Win 8 is released or for how long. The 'downgrade' option sounded like the solution, but not according to Dell.

a dell salesman that doesn't know about the downgrade option ?

qualifications by job title are meaningless i know people personally
working for a variety of pc industry sectors from tech support to programmers
and they ARE ALL BLOODY MORONS that could barely turn on their pc..
so saying so and so worked here or there means squat.

I'm a novice and confused. After Windows 8 is out this month, will Dell not allow individuals who are NON-business customers to still buy a pc direct from them with Windows 7 still on it? Someone here said "Unfortunately Microsoft won't allow OEM's to give non-business customers the same choice". I don't want Windows 8 and I'm afraid if I wait until it's out, I won't be able to buy a pc direct from Dell with Windows 7. Can someone please confirm or clarify? Thanks

leeShell said,
...

Dell's Alienware division, which offers gaming PCs, will also offer Windows 7 as an install option after Windows 8 launches. Gardner said, "For Alienware customers, they know what they want and we give them that choice."

If it's from their Alienware line.

Is this because they know deep down Windows 8 is not the be all end all sort of OS they want us to believe it is? Don't get me wrong I do see why Windows 8 is a good OS.. I just also see that 7 is also a very good OS to work with, and the better choice in some ways for some users.. Like myself..

windows95isg8 said,
Is this because they know deep down Windows 8 is not the be all end all sort of OS they want us to believe it is? Don't get me wrong I do see why Windows 8 is a good OS.. I just also see that 7 is also a very good OS to work with, and the better choice in some ways for some users.. Like myself..

No. It is because it's a new OS, just like before and it would be more practical for them to still continue offering the previous OS at least on this gen of PCs. Besides, you can just downgrade if it comes preinstalled with 8.

The Laughing Man said,

How exactly is this a "bad" move?

Because choice is bad, mmkay?

Now stop thinking for yourself and join the fold. The Microsoft way™.
Obey.

Jarrichvdv said,
What a ****ty move

Have you actually tried "using" Windows 8 as a primary OS? Dell think there is a chance it could be another Vista - just imagine all the customer complaints, and the cost of supporting these.

68k said,

Have you actually tried "using" Windows 8 as a primary OS? Dell think there is a chance it could be another Vista - just imagine all the customer complaints, and the cost of supporting these.


Exactly. Not to mention how corporations would end up with daily calls from the same users over and over again trying to find the most basic functions on Windows 8, functions that are more intuitive and obvious in Windows 7. Working in the environment I do, Windows 8 would cause a near shutdown of productivity unless we (the corporation deploying it) could customize it to a level where it wouldn't impact the end users severely.

Smart move. Even with low sales they'll see on W8 pc's allot of the one's they do sell will be sent back because people won't know what to do without the start button or how to find previous screens. Too many annoying clicks to get where you need to go.

simplezz said,
Unfortunately Microsoft won't allow OEM's to give non-business customers the same choice.

Couldn't they stockpile massive quantities of Windows 7 licenses to live off for the next few years after the deadline for OEM licenses ends?

simplezz said,
Unfortunately Microsoft won't allow OEM's to give non-business customers the same choice.

Erm the OEM edition totally allows users to downgrade to 7 or even Vista. It's in the license agreement, just like before, sans XP for obvious reasons.

simplezz said,
non-business customers the same choice.

Did you read the part about the Alienware line being available with Win7?
I do not recall Alienware being a business oriented product line.

deadonthefloor said,

Did you read the part about the Alienware line being available with Win7?
I do not recall Alienware being a business oriented product line.

Alienware probably make up a pretty small % of their overall sales, an option of what version of Windows the user wants across their entire range would be more desirable.

simplezz said,
Unfortunately Microsoft won't allow OEM's to give non-business customers the same choice.

Talking out of your ass as usual, I see.

thealexweb said,

Couldn't they stockpile massive quantities of Windows 7 licenses to live off for the next few years after the deadline for OEM licenses ends?


I can tell you that the company I work for will continue having Windows 7 installed on the Dell devices we receive, even if Windows 8 was what was shipped. We have no intention of migrating to Windows 8 at this time, we're still only halfway through migrating to Windows 7 (we're talking well over 160,000 systems and upgrading software that's used on those devices... not as easy as it looks.) So while Microsoft might force the OEMs to Windows 8, they can't force the corporate users with volume licensing to migrate.

Makes perfect sense, since a lot of businesses are still in transition from Windows XP. The difference between an 11 year old OS and modern operating system such as Windows 8 would be too overwhelming.

torrentthief said,
they should do this for all customers, not just businesses. I hate metro, hence why i uninstalled win8 and i'm back on win7 sp1.

It was less effort to spent a few min on disabling metro and enjoy all the other advantages and goodies Win8 has over Win7.

Shadowzz said,

It was less effort to spent a few min on disabling metro and enjoy all the other advantages and goodies Win8 has over Win7.

Disabling Metro would only have been a temporary solution, future updates from MS would probably break it.

Shadowzz said,

It was less effort to spent a few min on disabling metro and enjoy all the other advantages and goodies Win8 has over Win7.

How do you disable Metro?

thealexweb said,

Disabling Metro would only have been a temporary solution, future updates from MS would probably break it.

Using the feature Microsoft gives people in Windows, you can make it so you never see Metro.

All the 3rd party add on crap and hacks are not needed. Just throw in a script to flip you to the desktop at login. Windows has a scheduling service.

(I won't even explain that the 'Metro' or 'Start screen' is just a bigger 'Start Menu' and when you think of it like that, it is a tiny and mindless transition, even for the most stubborn users. So instead of the Start menu popping up 1/4 screen, it pops up full screen, that is so... oh, that really isn't any different if you 'think'.)

thenetavenger said,

Using the feature Microsoft gives people in Windows, you can make it so you never see Metro.

All the 3rd party add on crap and hacks are not needed. Just throw in a script to flip you to the desktop at login. Windows has a scheduling service.

(I won't even explain that the 'Metro' or 'Start screen' is just a bigger 'Start Menu' and when you think of it like that, it is a tiny and mindless transition, even for the most stubborn users. So instead of the Start menu popping up 1/4 screen, it pops up full screen, that is so... oh, that really isn't any different if you 'think'.)

I didn't say whether I personally like the Start Screen or not but you felt the need to have a mini-rant regardless...

thenetavenger said,

(I won't even explain that the 'Metro' or 'Start screen' is just a bigger 'Start Menu' and when you think of it like that, it is a tiny and mindless transition, even for the most stubborn users. So instead of the Start menu popping up 1/4 screen, it pops up full screen, that is so... oh, that really isn't any different if you 'think'.)

Funny. The same thing came to my mind yesterday. It is more like a full-screen start menu, and once you think of it that way, it's not as annoying anymore somehow.

Also, one of the reasons that desktop users hate metro is because of the metro apps on it. Well, guess what, you can remove all those apps and replace them with desktop applications. All done and set.

P.S. I don't have windows 8 so let me ask this; can you create a folder shortcut tile on start screen?

eddman said,

Funny. The same thing came to my mind yesterday. It is more like a full-screen start menu, and once you think of it that way, it's not as annoying anymore somehow.

Also, one of the reasons that desktop users hate metro is because of the metro apps on it. Well, guess what, you can remove all those apps and replace them with desktop applications. All done and set.

P.S. I don't have windows 8 so let me ask this; can you create a folder shortcut tile on start screen?


Perfect way to explain it. I don't know what all the fuss is about metro. Like you said, it is a full screen start menu.

eddman said,

P.S. I don't have windows 8 so let me ask this; can you create a folder shortcut tile on start screen?

Yes. Right-click the folder, and click "pin to Start".

Of course they will. There wasn't much difference between vista and 7, so dropping vista wouldn't have impacted sales.

8, on the other hand, is a very different experience and not everyone would want it, initially at least.
Windows 7 is here to stay for some time.

eddman said,
Of course they will. There wasn't much difference between vista and 7, so dropping vista wouldn't have impacted sales.

8, on the other hand, is a very different experience and not everyone would want it, initially at least.
Windows 7 is here to stay for some time.

Finally, an intelligent comment. Not BWING BAK DA START MENUUU M$!!!!

ingramator said,

Finally, an intelligent comment. Not BWING BAK DA START MENUUU M$!!!!

nice jab at people who don't like win 8
i havn't seen any commentary like that its usually well thought out rants..
your comment fits a formula which has become the norm around here as
pretty much the only way to lash out back at the haters.
pretty much any topic discussing win 8 you get a few of these type of comments.

Nivce try but sorry thats a fail..
feel free to try again.

casue liek omoggggzz winodws [8] M$ M$ M$ suckss yo !!111111ONE