Digg users fight back, sabotage main page

It’s fairly common to hear that most people don’t like change. The common saying is “if it ain't broken, don’t fix it”, this mannerism tries explaining that if you have something that works, don’t drastically change your formula. Unfortunately, Digg.com is learning this the hard way as users are fighting back, and they’re getting creative about it too.

There are many reasons users are upset, ranging from the “bury” button disappearing and “upcoming stories” that are not longer presented to the thumbs up and thumbs down buttons which have been replaced with arrows. While nothing earth shattering, these little changes have changed the way Digg users were able to operate the website. 

Whilst Kevin Rose has stated that the “upcoming stories” will return, he has remained quiet so far on other changes that users are demanding.  Digg.com has a lot of power and influence on the Internet.  Stories that hit the front page are rewarded with hundreds of thousands of hits and can be the equivalent of hitting the lottery for content producers. 

Digg users out of frustration are hitting back by forcing all the top stories to link to Diggs competition, Reddit.com . Currently of the 16 stories on the front page, 13 of them link to reddit.com, one to Reuters, one to Techmeme and one to an advertisement. 

Effectively, Digg users are fighting back by redirecting nearly all of Digg’s traffic to Reddit based stories. As the users continue to fight the change, Digg is stuck between a hard place and money it used to develop V4 of its software. Do they appease their users and revert to V3 or do they stick to their guns and ride out this disruption to its service?
 

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I forgot to include corporate agendas in addition to Hollywood/Celebrities, anything or anyone deemed famous or well known is guaranteed a spot on the front page even for stories that aren't voted as popular. Expect to see a lot more crap besides that stupid Paris Hilton tweet on the front page if they don't do something about it.

Sadly there's not much choice other than Digg, well there's Slashdot and Reddit, but not the same thing as Digg and Reddit looks like a 1990's era html site designed by a third grader.

Was only a matter of time, all this celebrity and Hollywood crap is infiltrating all social networks, Myspace, Facebook, Twitter and now Digg, nothing is safe.

I wonder if this is the reality of net neutrality. If the tea party tools actually buy into supporting a tiered internet out of reactionary anti-liberalism, would the subversive geeks (the likes of 4chan, digg, etc), start doing all kinds of service attacks on networks and sites that take advantage of upper-tier love? Huh.

The "new" digg is a big fail, I'm all for new things when it actually IMPROVES things (like the new Neowin was awesome)

The "users" need to get over it and either leave the site or deal with it

"Protesting" the changes will do nothing long term

and for the record, both the old and new Digg are meh, and so is Reddit, mostly spam and junk "news"

z0phi3l said,
The "users" need to get over it and either leave the site or deal with it

"Protesting" the changes will do nothing long term

and for the record, both the old and new Digg are meh, and so is Reddit, mostly spam and junk "news"

This.

"There are many reasons users are upset, ranging from the “bury” button disappearing and “upcoming stories” that are not longer presented to the thumbs up and thumbs down buttons which have been replaced with arrows. While nothing earth shattering, these little changes have changed the way Digg users were able to operate the website. "


the writer of this article needs to do a little more "research". missed the point entirely. buried as lame.

prime2515102 said,
I've never been to this site in my life. Why would the things other people like concern me?

Because you may actually like what other people like?

If you are interested in a subject, and other like minded people share what they believe to be quality content, and vote it up to the front page, you get to see stuff that may well have passed you by otherwise.

I think that's the basic concept.

The iPhone app is stuffed now too. And the digg design rss feed I subscribe to is showing any old story that's not at all design related. Worst site upgrade ever.

speedstr3789 said,
reddit is butt ugly

You really do get used to it. And once you do, the content and community is so much better than Digg. The comments are often intelligent and the subreddits are fantastic little communities, rich with information.

Axon said,

You really do get used to it. And once you do, the content and community is so much better than Digg. The comments are often intelligent and the subreddits are fantastic little communities, rich with information.

I wanted to upvote this >.>

spikey_richie said,

I've visited the link posted near the top, and I see thumbs.

They switched them back 2 days or so ago. The article isn't that up to date ..

According to Rose the main page is a problem with the algorithm since they moved everything to completely new servers. They're working on fixing the problem. As far as getting rid of the bury button apparently that was because companies were gaming the system. He talks about it on yesterday's TWiT. (http://twit.tv/263)

*Note: I don't normally go to Digg and have no bias for or against it. I simply get my news from other feeds.

bcronin said,
Seema a pretty juvenile response to resort to vandalism. Speaks volumes about the Digg audience.

Digg is supposed to display stories the users think deserve to be there. The users have decided that reddit articles should be there. In no way is this "vandalism". The reddit articles have 1500+ diggs by the time they hit front page. Other articles hitting the front page range from 25-80 diggs.

Selling out to corporations says a lot more about Digg's operators. If I submit a story right now there is NO WAY (short of specifically searching for it - which probably wouldn't work anyway) for people to find it. The users have every right to be upset about that.

I was wondering what was going on. Since they changed, Digg has just been pure crap. Nothing on the front page is worth reading, and everything is broken, deleted, or mainstream crap. Logged on Today for the first time in about 4 days, and all I saw was reddit stories. I was like, hahaha, great, digg is broken and has become reddit somehow, at least now something to read is on the front page though

Digg has been pointless since day one. Therefore their users are even more pointless. Ignore the lot and they'll simply go away.

Nogib said,
Digg has been pointless since day one. Therefore their users are even more pointless. Ignore the lot and they'll simply go away.

Riiiight. A site of that magnitude will simply vanish over night with it's entire userbase simply because you "ignore" them. Lol

I want what you're on!

No, but look how quickly MySpace faded when Facebook became popular. Reddit is taking advantage of the severe problems with Digg. To be honest I never liked Digg from the beginning, as I found it to be a perfect example of what was wrong with Web2.0.

0sm3l said,
For some reason I've never used digg before... I'm not even sure what it does lol

Its just a collection of links from other websites, used to be that when users like something they submit it to digg, the more submissions (diggs), the higher the link appears in the stories.

0sm3l said,
For some reason I've never used digg before... I'm not even sure what it does lol

It's where trolls go. :-0

This article misses the point. It isn't the minor cosmetic crap that Digg users are protesting, it's the change in the entire process. Now instead of individual users submitting, the site was overrun with auto-submitted stories from main stream media outlets...and quite dubious/crappy ones like mashable and guyism.

If they don't fix that main issue, the site is deader than Julius Caesar.

excalpius said,
This article misses the point. It isn't the minor cosmetic crap that Digg users are protesting, it's the change in the entire process. Now instead of individual users submitting, the site was overrun with auto-submitted stories from main stream media outlets...and quite dubious/crappy ones like mashable and guyism.

If they don't fix that main issue, the site is deader than Julius Caesar.


Agreed. They are ****ed about all the mainstream crap, not about the site design change, at least most of them are.

P.S. Found a typo "remained quite so far on other" - should be "remained quiet so far on other"

Calum said,
This is sad The changes look really nice to me anyway.

Out of interest what is it that you like? The new look is generally fine but it's the axing of key features that users are objecting to, not aesthetics. The new Digg has been designed to force mainstream media content from advertisers down users throats. This is in stark contrast to the original Digg that relied on it's users to submit and police content.

I don't visit Digg more than a few times a week now. It is very politically bias (liberal). But besides that, it is mostly pointless meme's and crappy email pictures.

On topic, this is a creative way to voice your opposition of the service without really harming the site per se. Shows how useless the digg up feature really is and how it is influecned by sheep that are just jumping along with what is the flavor of the hour.

ccoltmanm said,
I don't visit Digg more than a few times a week now. It is very politically bias (liberal).
Yep. I only visit it a few times a week out of habit from the "good old days."

In theory, this update does mean that there should be less biased things (since you can't bury conservative leaning articles as easily), but considering the news about "Conservative Bury Squads" recently on Digg prompting the change (among other abusers), and still having the heavy bias, I have my doubts.

I think Digg is slowly approaching irrelevance as a cleaner 4chan, and without a bury button, I definitely will end up going even less.

SpyCatcher said,
Use to go to Digg 3 to 5 times a day, now I may go once a day.
Yeah, I found with most of the stuff, I'd already reddit...

SpyCatcher said,
Use to go to Digg 3 to 5 times a day, now I may go once a day.

I quit going to digg over 2 years ago. Use to be pretty good news site, but then it just became a fanboy site of people digging up stories not in quite an honest way, backfighting, name calling.
I just got tired of the garbage.

.Neo said,
Change is scary. We should all revert back to the Stone-age and halt every bit of progress.

There's nothing wrong with positive change but what Digg have destroyed their site with the latest changes. These changes don't deserve support and it's good to see that users are fighting back.

.Neo said,
Change is scary. We should all revert back to the Stone-age and halt every bit of progress.
Or maybe you should research what you're commenting on instead of sounding like a dolt? The new Digg is worthless. Instead of content that users actually voted up being on the front page, anything submitted by a major website gets featured. Yesterday's top story was some ****ing tweet by Paris Hilton, because it was an article from time.com submitted by Time Magazine.

.Neo said,
Change is scary. We should all revert back to the Stone-age and halt every bit of progress.

You are seriously uninformed on this subject to make such a statement. If you knew what has gone on with the new redesign and how corporate interests and money has bought the site and how the users have been thrown out the door you wouldn't make such statements. And man they have been banning HUNDREDS of accounts about this. If you post anything Anti-v4 Digg ur account is gone. Including my own for a comment I made on a Digg v4 related story.

Vice said,
You are seriously uninformed on this subject to make such a statement.

You are seriously lacking any sense of humor and seriously take things way too serious.

.Neo said,

You are seriously lacking any sense of humor and seriously take things way too serious.

... except that your comment wasn't funny.

.Neo said,

You are seriously lacking any sense of humor and seriously take things way too serious.

Come back when your jokes are funny and we'll talk.

Hot said,
Or maybe you should research what you're commenting on instead of sounding like a dolt? The new Digg is worthless. Instead of content that users actually voted up being on the front page, anything submitted by a major website gets featured. Yesterday's top story was some ****ing tweet by Paris Hilton, because it was an article from time.com submitted by Time Magazine.

Indeed. If I'd like to see all the articles from major websites, I'd use their RSS feeds. Digg just became that with v4.

.Neo said,

You are seriously lacking any sense of humor and seriously take things way too serious.

Sounds like a classic case of the "it was a joke honest" copout to me.