EA confirms PC version of Battlefield 3 won't be sold on Steam

About a month ago a web page on the official Battlefield 3 web site briefly showed a list of all of the retail and download sites that the upcoming first person shooter could be purchased. A huge omission on that list was Steam, Valve's PC game download service which is by far the biggest of the PC game download sites with 30 million registered users. The web page was quickly removed and neither Valve nor Battlefield 3's publisher Electronic Arts commented at the time about Steam not appearing on the game's retailer list.

This week in a post on the Battlefield 3 message boards, an EA rep confirmed that the game would in fact not be released on Steam. The message states, "Unfortunately, Steam has adopted a set of restrictive terms of service which limit how developers interact with customers to deliver patches and other downloadable content. No other download service has adopted these practices." It added, "We are intent on providing Battlefield 3 players with the best possible experience no matter where they purchase or play their game, and are happy to partner with any download service that does not restrict our ability to connect directly with our consumers. We hope to work out an agreement where Steam can carry Battlefield 3."

Valve has yet to comment about EA's allegations. Earlier this year the publisher pulled two more of its PC games off of Steam, Crysis 2 and Dragon Age 2. As before, EA said Valve's alleged restrictions on how it handles patches and downloadable content were the reason. So far, no other game publisher has pulled games off of Steam for the reasons EA has described.

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Are people still talking about this? If the game isn't available on Steam then what's the big deal with going to a store and buying it on disc? Hell it can be ordered from Amazon if you want to save on tax and shipping is either free or costs little.

Reading some of these posts you'd think Steam was the only way to buy and play PC games. Well it isn't; it's just a digital distribution service like Origin, Impulse, and Direct2Drive. Some people like it, some hate it but there it is. Maybe I'm in the minority here but I prefer to buy my games on disc and install them. That which is new, and digital, isn't always better.

I guess I better start pre-ordering now that it's confirmed it won't be available on Steam

But honestly, people used to rage and complain about Steam a few years ago. Now everyone worships it - let's give Origin a chance

:: Lyon :: said,
I guess I better start pre-ordering now that it's confirmed it won't be available on Steam

But honestly, people used to rage and complain about Steam a few years ago. Now everyone worships it - let's give Origin a chance

Very true.

SpyderCanopus said,
Open Steam > Click the "Games" menu > Click "add non-Steam game to library"

VIOLA! BF3 on Steam!

Not. The. Same.

And you know it.

no thanks EA, ill would like to stick with steam, its called my choice, BTW if it wasnt for steam, us KIWIs would be paying your over the top prices ATM!!

I have two steam powered games and they are both having issues with my 6990 and two monitors. Support won't reply to my ticket. In other words I am gland BF3 isnt on steam

Riva said,
Support won't reply to my ticket. In other words I am gland BF3 isnt on steam

What games? Are you certain you're emailing the CORRECT support department? Typically you'd go for the publisher/developer for help with the game you downloaded off Steam...

Riva said,
Support won't reply to my ticket. In other words I am gland BF3 isnt on steam

What games? Are you certain you're emailing the CORRECT support department? Typically you'd go for the publisher/developer for help with the game you downloaded off Steam...

I was mad about this at first, but now that I've been using Origin for a while I don't really care. It's really not that bad even though its a **** move from EA.

In the end those who want to play BF3 will buy it any way they can and the whiners will just lose out.

To be honest I would prefer to own the physical media for this game - there is a psychological barrier to me of spending £35 or £40 on a digital download, vs actually owning the disks.

But that said I love Steam and have splashed out on games when they've been in the sales.. £8 is a bit more acceptable to me I can't help but feel this is very short sighted by EA, however they know they're going to sell absolutely shed loads of copies of this game so I guess they can afford to act like dicks!

Chicane-UK said,
To be honest I would prefer to own the physical media for this game - there is a psychological barrier to me of spending £35 or £40 on a digital download, vs actually owning the disks.

I used to think like that, then realised how much space I was saving in my room. I have over 100 games on Steam now, would hate to try find a place for them!

AFineFrenzy said,

I used to think like that, then realised how much space I was saving in my room. I have over 100 games on Steam now, would hate to try find a place for them!

And I can have the same games installed automatically on my laptop, any new computer I buy, when I'm visiting friends or relatives, etc. All it takes is my Steam login and the time it takes to first-time install the game in question.

I don't do physical media anymore.

I don't want it on steam... I would rather have the physical copy of the disk than depend on steam or any other digital outlet. I would rather download the patches myself than have them pushed automatically as they are with Steam. When I'm done with the game I'll sell it and recover some costs that I put in to it. So long as they don't require the disk to be in the drive I'm ok with it but since they patched that out of BF2 I don't think they will make that mistake with BF3 with some lame DRM.

sava700 said,
I don't want it on steam... I would rather have the physical copy of the disk than depend on steam or any other digital outlet. I would rather download the patches myself than have them pushed automatically as they are with Steam. When I'm done with the game I'll sell it and recover some costs that I put in to it. So long as they don't require the disk to be in the drive I'm ok with it but since they patched that out of BF2 I don't think they will make that mistake with BF3 with some lame DRM.

I think the game key would be linked to your EA account so you cant sell it.

It's really hard for me to take a side in this dispute between Valve and EA when neither are making it clear what the dispute really is. All I've heard is that there are "restrictions" on something relating to how the publisher can distribute stuff for the game. That's pretty vague... What exactly are these restrictions?

Valve isn't allowing anyone to sell DLC directly. It has to be on the Steam storefront.

Otherwise, they take the game down. It's a relatively recent rule so they're ignoring games that were on the service already, unless new DLC comes out which breaks the rule.

And people are calling EA greedy. Huh?

randomevent said,
Valve isn't allowing anyone to sell DLC directly. It has to be on the Steam storefront.

Otherwise, they take the game down. It's a relatively recent rule so they're ignoring games that were on the service already, unless new DLC comes out which breaks the rule.

And people are calling EA greedy. Huh?

Ok so its a new rule so no more games that use Games for Windows Live then.

Doli said,

Ok so its a new rule so no more games that use Games for Windows Live then.


Unless they don't have DLC or sell it through both like Fallout 3, yes. I suspect Valve is going to back down on this since it's not likely to win them any friends. We'll see.

SpyCatcher said,
EA to customers - we want to you to pay us more money!

You do realise that some EA games on Steam can be activated in Origin using the Steam "CD-Key".

What's the big deal. Buy the game at retail or another digital store. Origin only needs to be used for updates, doesn't need to run in the background or anything while playing. You know, kinda like buying games before Steam came along. It amazes me how people hate console gaming for being a closed environment when Steam that you love, is used in the same way. One platform. I've got no love for EA but they can do what they want just like everyone else including Valve who are a quite a bit more restrictive with their games on Steam than EA are with Origin.

Now who said PC users don't like closed environments? Sure, we like having choice in hardware to run games better, and we can do so much more with our PCs. But software wise, I think we all like unity. Unity, as in, not having several applications that do the exact same thing.

I would not want to run Steam, Impulse, and Origin when I can get everything on Steam. It's like downloading Open Office because Office 2010 doesn't support a single required format. You want the application you were using before to do all these things so you don't have to bog your computer down with more applications.

Same concept to why I choose to run Trillian instead of 3-4 different messengers: It's less of a hassle.

You don't need Origin to run when playing Battlefield. Buy games from retail. I understand running numerous clients is a pain but if all they are is store fronts then it's not much different from buying from different online shops. Just the means to get the software is downloading rather than waiting for delivery to your door. You can add short cuts to Steam as well so you still have that single portal you like. Whatever floats your boat of course, just saying the fuss is rather misplaced.

Well you don't need Origin when you play Battlefield 2 Bad Company 2. It doesn't actually do anything other than simply download the application for you.

(I bought it via Origin)

undu said,
I know that, I'm asking about Battlefield 3.

Origin is only required in the background if you want to use the overlay, unlike Steam where it HAS to be running to even load the games themselves.

TBH the retail copies of BF3 will probably come with Origin for keeping the game up to date but that's all, just like EADM which Origin replaced.

Oh and some EA games on Steam can be activated in Origin using the Steam "CD-Key".

Again. Source, please.

I'm asking because in the Alpha was mandatory, the game could only be launched through Origin.

undu said,
Again. Source, please.

I'm asking because in the Alpha was mandatory, the game could only be launched through Origin.

How about that fact that I use both Origin and Steam, does that make me an unreliable source?

Source on that?

It adds the BF3 Alpha to the Games Explorer so you can launch it without Origin.

So you've pulling out of your ass that Battlefield 3 won't require Origin. good.

Also you're wrong, the battlelog web launched origin to launch the bf3 alpha.
As for my source, I was an alpha tester, sorry if I don't have a video on that.

undu said,
So you've pulling out of your ass that Battlefield 3 won't require Origin. good.

Also you're wrong, the battlelog web launched origin to launch the bf3 alpha.
As for my source, I was an alpha tester, sorry if I don't have a video on that.

I never said that it won't require Origin to be installed to keep it up to date, did I? So you just pulled that out of your ass!!

I was an Alpha tester as well so I know for a fact that Origin doesn't need to be running to launch the game, as I already said, Origin only needs to be running to allow access to the overlay.

oceanmotion said,
What's the big deal. Buy the game at retail or another digital store. Origin only needs to be used for updates, doesn't need to run in the background or anything while playing. You know, kinda like buying games before Steam came along. It amazes me how people hate console gaming for being a closed environment when Steam that you love, is used in the same way. One platform. I've got no love for EA but they can do what they want just like everyone else including Valve who are a quite a bit more restrictive with their games on Steam than EA are with Origin.

Thank you! Tired of Steam whiners ragging on EA. Steam is great, but it does not need to be the end all in gaming. Plus it's nice to give Steam some competition.

neo158 said,

I never said that it won't require Origin to be installed to keep it up to date, did I? So you just pulled that out of your ass!!

I was an Alpha tester as well so I know for a fact that Origin doesn't need to be running to launch the game, as I already said, Origin only needs to be running to allow access to the overlay.

I never said it would require origin, I didn't pull anything out of my ass.

On a more interesting note, it's been confirmed the game WILL require Origin.

http://bf3blog.com/2011/08/ori...ired-to-play-battlefield-3/

"Vote with your wallets." I'm not buying Battlefield 3 until I see it on the front page of Steam. I don't care if it takes forever and a day, I refuse to be bullied into being forced to use that POS called Origin. Their store barely works. If Steam and Origin were football teams, it'd be like Barcelona vs. a 5-a-side pub team.

MightyJordan said,
"Vote with your wallets." I'm not buying Battlefield 3 until I see it on the front page of Steam. I don't care if it takes forever and a day, I refuse to be bullied into being forced to use that POS called Origin. Their store barely works. If Steam and Origin were football teams, it'd be like Barcelona vs. a 5-a-side pub team.

Good. That means one less person clogging up the multiplayer servers.

Not like it's insanely difficult to go buy it at a real store...ooooh what a concept.

MightyJordan said,
I refuse to be bullied into being forced to use that POS called Origin.
Note that this only affects Steam; Direct2Drive, GamersGate and everywhere else are still selling it along with every other EA game that has been pulled from Steam due to this disagreement.

MightyJordan said,
"Vote with your wallets." I'm not buying Battlefield 3 until I see it on the front page of Steam. I don't care if it takes forever and a day, I refuse to be bullied into being forced to use that POS called Origin. Their store barely works. If Steam and Origin were football teams, it'd be like Barcelona vs. a 5-a-side pub team.

So you've never used Origin but insist it's a POS!!

The Origin Store works perfectly, downloads are quicker than Steam and have a consistant download speed as well.

MightyJordan said,
"Vote with your wallets." I'm not buying Battlefield 3 until I see it on the front page of Steam. I don't care if it takes forever and a day, I refuse to be bullied into being forced to use that POS called Origin. Their store barely works. If Steam and Origin were football teams, it'd be like Barcelona vs. a 5-a-side pub team.

Steam isn't the holy grail of PC gaming. Sure, it's popular but that doesn't mean it has to be your one and only source of buying and downloading PC games. I have games on Direct2Drive, Impulse, and Origin because of pricing and availability.

I don't know why you think Origin is a "POS". Care to tell us why? "Their store barely works." is too vague.

SharpGreen said,

Good. That means one less person clogging up the multiplayer servers.

Not like it's insanely difficult to go buy it at a real store...ooooh what a concept.

heh except with said retail DVD purchase you then have to reg it and play it via their Origin service

Mando said,
heh except with said retail DVD purchase you then have to reg it and play it via their Origin service

Yeah, but unlike Steam, Origin doesn't need to be running to play the games that use it.

MightyJordan said,
"Vote with your wallets." I'm not buying Battlefield 3 until I see it on the front page of Steam.

Yup, me too. I don't buy games if they're not on Steam. It's just that simple.

There's plenty of competition out there for all of EA's "franchises". This just makes the decision easy.

Unfortunately, Steam has adopted a set of restrictive terms of service which limit how developers interact with customers to deliver patches and other downloadable content. No other download service has adopted these practices.

Basically, this translates to: "Steam makes it difficult for us to rob our customers for even more money at every opportunity"

Caleo said,

Basically, this translates to: "Steam makes it difficult for us to rob our customers for even more money at every opportunity"

Well that's just complete ignorance.

Exactly, some games are cheaper on Origin. Bulletstorm is a good example, £19.99 on Origin, £29.99 on Steam so which service is robbing their customers again?

Caleo said,
Basically, this translates to: "Steam makes it difficult for us to rob our customers for even more money at every opportunity"

You mean 'Steam makes it difficult for us to rob our customers for even more money at every opportunity without Valve getting a cut.' Which is still absurd, but at least more accurate.

Valve isn't being anyones friend here...except their own.

neo158 said,
Exactly, some games are cheaper on Origin. Bulletstorm is a good example, £19.99 on Origin, £29.99 on Steam so which service is robbing their customers again?

SOME GAMES ARE CHEAPER ELSEWHERE? NO FREAKING WAYYY!!

Steam isn't always the lowest, but it is quite convenient. So convenient that some people including myself would rather go through Steam than pull up Amazon just to save $10, wait for it to ship, then install with disc(s), and so forth. Go with what's cheaper if price is your concern, you aren't being "robbed" if you're just too lazy to look elsewhere.

neo158 said,
Exactly, some games are cheaper on Origin. Bulletstorm is a good example, £19.99 on Origin, £29.99 on Steam so which service is robbing their customers again?

You realise EA sets the price of games on Steam right? So... its EA robbing their customers.