European Parliament rejects ACTA in crushing defeat

The European Parliament has today rejected the Anti-Counterfeiting Trade Agreement. The somewhat one-sided against vote followed a failed attempt to postpone the decision because of ongoing investigations into Acta by the European Court of Justice.

Euro MP David Martin told the BBC: "It's time to give [Acta] its last rites."

The Verge reached out to an Oxfam spokesperson who told them that:

"Today marks a real turning point, a victory for poor people over the interests of big pharmaceutical companies. ACTA could have made life-saving drugs much costlier for the world’s poorest, resulting in devastating consequences for their health. With Europe’s rejection, we’re now hugely relieved that ACTA is going nowhere."

The result speaks for itself, with 478 votes against, 146 abstentions, and just 39 in favor.

In January, Poland voted to pass ACTA but some lawmakers in that country chose to protest the passage by wearing Guy Fawkes masks in Parliament. Back in February. ZDNet UK reported that Germany had chosen not to vote on ACTA until sometime after the European Parliament votes on the proposal.

In addition a few other European countries, including Poland, had already signed ACTA. The European Union's rules state that if just one country in the union doesn't both sign and ratify ACTA, the treaty cannot be enforced in the Union. Todays vote means that ACTA is in-fact dead in the water in Europe.

The US and other countries have already signed the ACTA treaty.

Via: BBC
Source: The Verge

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haha ahhh, classic example of scamming little pirates jumping on something they can use to make their own cause seem legit. Fact is, they were fighting their freedom to steal. They don't care about the external ramifications of the actions in stopping this. They don't care one bit.

Spirit Dave said,
haha ahhh, classic example of scamming little pirates jumping on something they can use to make their own cause seem legit. Fact is, they were fighting their freedom to steal. They don't care about the external ramifications of the actions in stopping this. They don't care one bit.

LOL WHUT?

So ACTA would have hit only the pirates in your belief?
You Sir, with all due respect - are delusional.

GS:mac

Spirit Dave said,
haha ahhh, classic example of scamming little pirates jumping on something they can use to make their own cause seem legit. Fact is, they were fighting their freedom to steal. They don't care about the external ramifications of the actions in stopping this. They don't care one bit.

That's like calling the people against Denmark's version of SOPA/ACTA pedophiles, since they implemented it under the cause of fighting child pornography.

It really doesn't matter what these bills are being used to fight, it's a matter of what they could mean for the population as a whole.

Spirit Dave said,
haha ahhh, classic example of scamming little pirates jumping on something they can use to make their own cause seem legit. Fact is, they were fighting their freedom to steal. They don't care about the external ramifications of the actions in stopping this. They don't care one bit.

If we had everything your way (I've seen a lot of your past comments as well), we would still be on vinyl. Also, home video would have 2 hours of adverts/trailers before you can watch the content you purchased - in fact, not sure there would even be home video. In the digital world, there would be no spotify, itunes, hulu, netflix, etc. etc.

I/we want pirates to have the freedom to carry on what they're doing. Its competition for the industry and allows not just the rich to buy their products. I choose to pay for Spotify because I believe its easier, quicker and better than what I find on TPB - but that is one of many services that has surfaced because of the fight (read as competition) against piracy. I believe in a world where everybody should enjoy some basic luxury as long as they work for it.

Are you in favour of ACTA ?

Spirit Dave said,
haha ahhh, classic example of scamming little pirates jumping on something they can use to make their own cause seem legit. Fact is, they were fighting their freedom to steal. They don't care about the external ramifications of the actions in stopping this. They don't care one bit.

Yeah **** those scamming little pirates at Oxfam and Doctors Without Borders!!!11one

neonspark said,
what a disgrace for the US to be in this league when even the lazy europeans managed to reject it.

Lazy Europeans?

Last time I checked we're better at consumer protection and various other topics than the US.
We're not lazy at all, we even once went out of our way to reject bananas that didn't comply to EU banana standards. (not kidding, that has been luckily turned over now though. It literally was the prime example of stupid jack*hit EU legislation)

Our EU legislation is VERY active. (not always a good thing, but you get the idea)

GS:mac

neonspark said,
what a disgrace for the US to be in this league when even the lazy europeans managed to reject it.

Well well... I guess you are referring to the work hours and vacation days... however that doesn't mean anything about the efficiency of people.

And please refrain from making such generalizations. Some other may come and say stupid ignorant Americans. After all 50% of the nation believes that the world is around 5000 years old.

ccoltmanm said,
America rules! USA USA USA

I know lots of lazy Americans. But I know a few lazy European workers.

Then would it be better to say "some people are lazy" without stating a particular group? Everyone is lazy, one way or another.

Wouldn't it just be better to report comments like this? I hate sweeping generalizations about anyone from any country to be honest, and this guy's post is just an embarrassment. Just downright offensive in my eyes at least.

I would like to know who these "39 in favor" are.

What age are they? Have they ever used the internet? Do they have any conflicting relationships with the entertainment industry? Do they have any qualifications outside of business/politics?

ShMaunder said,
I would like to know who these "39 in favor" are.

What age are they? Have they ever used the internet? Do they have any conflicting relationships with the entertainment industry? Do they have any qualifications outside of business/politics?

As far as i remember, European Parliament provides site where everyone interested can check summary for every poll - but unfortunately i cant remember site >:
For sure, mrs Gallo was pro ACTA.

ShMaunder said,
I would like to know who these "39 in favor" are.

What age are they? Have they ever used the internet? Do they have any conflicting relationships with the entertainment industry? Do they have any qualifications outside of business/politics?

Haha how dare they let big companies make 200 million dollar movies and expect me to buy a movie ticket, DVD and maybe some merchandise. Make it easier and legal for me to download it free. Not only will that show them, but more talented people will realize it is in the best interest of the people to produce a 200 million dollar movie and distribute it for free. It's not like thousands of people's lives are connected to the fate of a movie. Go download a movie and say f u to all th

ccoltmanm said,
Haha how dare they let big companies make 200 million dollar movies and expect me to buy a movie ticket, DVD and maybe some merchandise. Make it easier and legal for me to download it free.

That's not what ACTA is about, and you know it. It was designed to protect the interests of large, multi-billion dollar companies at the expense of all else. Most controversially it would criminalise generic medication and infringe civil liberties on a massive scale. Not only that but it was negotiated in secret without participation from developing nations and civil society groups. It was designed by big business, for big business without any concern for proportionality or consequence.

Modern film releases like The Avengers have demonstrated that if you produce a quality movie people will pay to see it, regardless of the fact they could pirate it for free (irrespective of the legal status of such an action). This wasn't just a case of pirates objecting to it - European politicians objected on an unprecedented scale.

Take your pro-business / anti-consumer sentiment elsewhere.

But they are against it ?

ccoltmanm said,
Haha how dare they let big companies make 200 million dollar movies and expect me to buy a movie ticket, DVD and maybe some merchandise. Make it easier and legal for me to download it free. Not only will that show them, but more talented people will realize it is in the best interest of the people to produce a 200 million dollar movie and distribute it for free. It's not like thousands of people's lives are connected to the fate of a movie. Go download a movie and say f u to all th

As theyarecomingforyou said firstly. Secondly, you nearly got this part correct "Make it easier and legal for me to download it free.": but I don't expect it to be free; either have ads or make an attractive price/subscription. I know ACTA is more than piracy, but if they start putting these restraints in, I know I won't be able to afford Spotify & Netflix as the price would sky rocket or the service would disappear.

On something a little unrelated to this discussion: movies cost that much because of the insanely high profits they were making from them. Actors, Directors, etc demanded more pay and therefore costs go up. Some movies with lower budgets are just as good those that cost 200 million, so in my opinion, reducing these pay outs isn't a bad thing and we may see less Drink, Drugs and Scientologists among actors.

I don't quite get this, it's illegal to download things where to should be paying for them...

If I get caught download I'll get a letter etc etc, so what does it matter if this went through or not?

Don't really understand

Dan~ said,
I don't quite get this, it's illegal to download things where to should be paying for them...

If I get caught download I'll get a letter etc etc, so what does it matter if this went through or not?

Don't really understand

It is not illegal everywhere. i.e. in the Netherlands it is illegal to upload a copyrighted material but it is not a felony to download it.

Dan~ said,
I don't quite get this, it's illegal to download things where to should be paying for them...

If I get caught download I'll get a letter etc etc, so what does it matter if this went through or not?

Don't really understand

ACTA was meant to operate not just only in virtual reality but also in real life.

Wasn't it that ACTA only gets effective if EVERYone signed it?
I mean not only on a EU scale, but for every signing nation?

Either way, I'm currently damn happy and this has restored a further tiny bit of trust in our democracy.

Sidenote: 39 in favor?
Names please

GS:mac

Edited by Glassed Silver, Jul 4 2012, 12:56pm :

Neobond said,
Yeah, I have since updated the article with a bit of background.

Cool cool.
By the way it was a real question, not hypothetical, as I wasn't 100% sure anymore so I thought I'd toss in my thoughts for a small debate. ^_^

GS:mac

ahhell said,
Don't worry, it'll be back.

It'll come back in pieces.

One legislation after another.
They have learned that ONE BIG POS contract means BIG protest.
Several small pieces of sh** don't stack up to the same amount of opposing protest.

GS:mac