Firefox Loses Browser Share, Safari Gains

According Aliso Viejo, California-based Net Applications' January 2007 report, Mozilla Firefox has lost browser market share (from 14% to 13.7%) while Apple's Safari has grown in browser usage (from 4.2% to 4.7%). For Firefox, this is the first dip since May 2006. "It appears to be a real dip," not a statistical anomaly, said Vincent Vizzaccaro, Net Applications' executive vice president of marketing and strategic relationships. Partly based on the open-source Konqueror, Safari previously held 3.1% of the browser market – its growth could indicate a slow but steady increase in Macintosh sales. "The more interesting trend is on the Safari side. It looks like it's taking share away from browsers in the Windows environment," said Vizzaccaro. Windows XP still has an overwhelming lead in operating systems, however, with 85% (Vista was at a mere 0.2% since by then it had only launched to businesses). Microsoft's Internet Explorer accounted for 79.8% of the browser market in January.

News source: PC World

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mrmckeb said,
FF needs to stop ignoring the OSX and Vista UI-designs. Some users don't like things to look freakish.

The problem with that is
1) They scared off the developer who was fixing Mozilla's native look.
2) They abandoned the native look and basically said "we don't give a damn" (much to the annoyance of both some Mozilla foundation developers and the community alike).

While Mozilla are concentrating on fixing functionality on Vista, don't expect them to fix the native look any time soon.

Not much of a drop, but a drop just the same. It had to start somewhere. Nice to see people coming to their senses and realizing Firefox is not the greatest thing since the invention of the wheel. In fact, NO WHERE near as great even.

I have Netscape,FF & IE on my Machine I can see the difference in velocity ! FF its better but It doesnt display all the pages an IE and Netscape do it.. whatever FF Rocks!

I was a Firefox user for about 2 years but I recently moved back to IE7 now that it has add-ons that do the same thing as Firefox's extensions and it tends to load pages faster, at least in my experience.

One thing I will not miss is the memory leaks but I'll see with Firefox 3.0.

Right in the same boat here. Used FF religiously for a long time, but recently had to format my computer, and it has yet to be reinstalled. IE7 is an excellent browser.

And @ everyone else - .3% may be small, but when you don't own much of the market to begin with, it's not something to blow off, and that goes double when you haven't lost market share in 9 months.

-Spenser

It's no wonder, Firefox on OS X sucks, both the UI and the underlying engine (Engine's good, but it's not a very good port, it's slow and doesn't use the new API's, it's still using Classic Mac API's)

Ah, but that means the Firefox + Safari share has risen by 0.2% - therefore it's likely IE share has gone down. >_>

I really don't care about firefox-safari shuffling - they're both very decent browsers that don't force coders to hack code to work.

Pox said,
Ah, but that means the Firefox + Safari share has risen by 0.2% - therefore it's likely IE share has gone down. >_>
See my post #2. IE went up just a bit, 0.1 percentage point. Same source of data, but different news report that includes the IE info linked in that post.

It'll be interesting to see how Safari vs. Firefox3 turns out since Fx3 is going to have drastically better OSX support (Cocoa widgets, native theming, etc). I know one common complaint against Firefox on OSX is that it just doesn't behave like a native app.

well since apple moved to intel more people its buying macs because it can install windows too, so this increase its kinda expected

Is that what is actually happening though? What does that say? That people always wanted macs? Are you saying that the increase in... the safari browser usage... is a direct result of people buying macs... so that they can run windows... which doesnt run safari?

I stopped using Safari on my Mac Mini for Firefox 2. Once Firefox got integrated spell checking I was convinced. Firefox also opens and loads pages faster then Safari (significantly faster) on my 1.2GHz G4 Mac Mini.

Safari also has integrated spell checking. Even in any supported language, and you know there are many.

I still think Safari is more OS-compliant and opens more quickly than FF.

Safari matters because it is being ported to qt and will be used in KDE 4. I know what you're thinking KDE another .5% in the user base. But KDE4 will also run in Windows, meaning Konqueror/Webkit/Safari or whatever they call it, will be running on Windows. Another 3 platform browser engine.

chavo said,
Safari matters because it is being ported to qt and will be used in KDE 4. I know what you're thinking KDE another .5% in the user base. But KDE4 will also run in Windows, meaning Konqueror/Webkit/Safari or whatever they call it, will be running on Windows. Another 3 platform browser engine.

Why?

What does KDE do that Windows doesn't already?

I perhaps am looking at it from a dated perspective (I recall using KDE, pre-1.0), but it was largely a suite of mid-level apps that looked and acted similar, because back in those days, no two X11 apps looked the same (as GTK had yet to take off big time)

The big promise was an office suite, but OpenOffice killed that need. Aside from that, it was just some applets and a very large taskbar, all of which are done by other Windows facilities.

I honestly mean no offence, but from what little I've seen, it's more a case of safari needing better standards support, than sites needing to support it.

yakumo said,
I honestly mean no offence, but from what little I've seen, it's more a case of safari needing better standards support, than sites needing to support it.

Wasn't the Safari browser the first to properly display the "Acid 2" web standards test?

yakumo said,
I honestly mean no offence, but from what little I've seen, it's more a case of safari needing better standards support, than sites needing to support it.

Nope, there are just loads of lousy unskilled web developers that spend too much time in WYSIWYG editors.

Shadrack said,

Wasn't the Safari browser the first to properly display the "Acid 2" web standards test?


Yes it was.

Well I have been running nightlies of Safari (WebKit) and everything works fine, more than the latest build of Safari.

For the end user, being backwards compatible with browser quirks is unfortunately more important than complying to the Acid 2 test. Well, it's what will decide how a lot of web sites will look anyway.

There's more to standards than the Acid tests, and basing your like/dislike of a browser solely on this test is, well, dumb. Personally, Safari sucks. Poor JavaScript error reporting, poor DOM support, and poor XML support keeps me away from it. I occasionally play with WebKit builds, but Safari's off my major support list for the time being.

You can talk about standards all day long, but the only meaningful standard in IE6. An ironic statement because it has such poor standards support. With almost 80% market share EVERY page needs to display correctly on IE6, no acceptations. Because of this, every other browser must be able to display pages designed for IE6 correctly. Call it the IE6 standard enforced by market share. After all, is there anymore authoritative group than the user base?

Firefox: down 0.3 percentage points
Safari (OSX): up 0.5 percentage points
IE also gained: 0.1 percentage points
Opera, old Netscape, etc all lost marketshare (source)

So, are the additional Safari (Mac) users switchers from Windows that previously also used Firefox on Windows? Seems to make sense.

These numbers are so small that you can't make a fair statment from them, but in addition to your point you could also have Firefox on Mac users switch to Safari and Firefox on Windows switching to IE7.

exactly.... which basically means nothing... as im sure stuff fluctuates withing .3 percent fairly often.

bottom line = nothing to worry about ;)

me personally i doubt ill be switching from firefox to any other browser anytime soon.... only way i see me switching is if they make firefox bloated... like what happened to netscape over the years... it used to be good (back in the mid 1990's ish) then went to hell.