Following Blue, ‘Threshold' is the next wave of Windows updates

Microsoft has moved to a rapid release cycle and we have now seen the fruits of this refined release cycle with ‘Blue’ which was a wave of releases across many of the company’s core products. If you were wondering what would follow Blue, the answer is “Threshold” and it is targeting a Spring 2015 release date.

The information comes from the reliable Mary Jo Foley who has previously stated that Microsoft would be releasing updates in the spring of 2015 and now we know the codename for the updates. While we do not know exactly what all will be in the updates, know that the release will work to move all Windows based products closer together including Windows Phone, Windows, and Xbox One.

The report cites that ‘Threshold’ will build upon cross-platform commonality for “high value activities” with the idea being that Microsoft will work to narrow the gap between its key platforms. This shouldn’t come as a surprise as we have been hearing for some time that Microsoft wanted to make Windows one platform that spans multiple types of devices.

MJF states that the post Windows 8.1 update, simply called Update 1 should arrive in the Spring of 2014 along with Windows Phone 8.1

The name “Threshold”, for those who are curious, comes from one of the Xbox’s premier games, Halo, that made its debut back in 2001.

Source: Mary Jo Foley

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Maybe, just maybe, Microsoft will fix the mess they created with Windows-8 and didn't fully fix with Windows-8.1. Hint: think laptop and desktop users with their applications that are mouse and keyboard oriented running on a desktop. If not, long live Windows-7.

in the future they will say, "cortana's first step toward world domination began w/ the threshold update in the spring of 2014..."

The problem with technology updates is that it makes you want to get older too fast (e.g I wished 2015 was next month )

2015 ?? Really 2 years away from something they have been talking about for 5 years now back in the win 7 days and when windows phone came out they showed a demo game that played on the phone, than on the pc and on the xbox..
I don't understand google releases stuff days after MS. I was just showing my team miracast with windows 8.1 and how kewl it was, they very next day google shows off their own and it works with apple tv ... why can't MS move this quickly.

i suspect the "incremental upgrade" thing isn't really working for microsoft. hard to break old habits and mindsets.

Spring 2015...so far away. , granted it's better than every 3-5 years for a new Windows release...but still. I also hope that isn't the time when they open the Xbox One to indie developers (that don't have to be accepted through the program)...

Zedox said,
Spring 2015...so far away. , granted it's better than every 3-5 years for a new Windows release...but still. I also hope that isn't the time when they open the Xbox One to indie developers (that don't have to be accepted through the program)...

I doubt it'll be that long. This might mean more of a core API update for 2015 so that more than just the kernels are shared between the OS'. I expect to see Xbox One updates through 2014 and iirc, they did say that they're going allow you to turn your XB1 into a developer unit sometime in 2014. So far they haven't said that plan has changed.

Zedox said,
Spring 2015...so far away. , granted it's better than every 3-5 years for a new Windows release...but still. I also hope that isn't the time when they open the Xbox One to indie developers (that don't have to be accepted through the program)...
We still have to get another update between now and then. Since that is that far away, and the upcoming update is called "Update 1", there might be an "Update 2" between Spring 2014 and Spring 2015.

Free update for current 8.x users, like 8.1 was to 8.0, or is this a full-blown OS? It's a legitimate question that needs to be asked, IMO.

It'll be interesting to see how the pricing model evolves if MS is sticking with this accelerated release schedule. For one thing, I don't think they'll be able to nickel-and-dime consumers for every update. OTOH, Windows itself (the OS) is such a large part of MS's income, they can't start making every incremental update free...

_dandy_ said,
Free update for current 8.x users, like 8.1 was to 8.0, or is this a full-blown OS? It's a legitimate question that needs to be asked, IMO.

It'll be interesting to see how the pricing model evolves if MS is sticking with this accelerated release schedule. For one thing, I don't think they'll be able to nickel-and-dime consumers for every update. OTOH, Windows itself (the OS) is such a large part of MS's income, they can't start making every incremental update free...

I believe that for the same major version number, the updates will be free to existing owners.
For those who don't own Win 8, It'll be a paid upgrade.

In other words, exactly like Blue (8.1).

I'm referring only to desktop Windows here. Dunno about WP8.

Ice_Blue said,

I believe that for the same major version number, the updates will be free to existing owners.
For those who don't own Win 8, It'll be a paid upgrade.

In other words, exactly like Blue (8.1).

I'm referring only to desktop Windows here. Dunno about WP8.

That's really the question. Once 8.x is the dominant Windows OS[*], they won't be able to keep giving it away for free forever.

[*] Windows 8 haters, this is not the point.

_dandy_ said,

That's really the question. Once 8.x is the dominant Windows OS[*], they won't be able to keep giving it away for free forever.

[*] Windows 8 haters, this is not the point.

True. But they will have to up the major version at some point.
Problem is what magnitude of change will prompt this.

Seeing as how they are into incremental upgrades now, how are they going to justify a major version number.

(I'm thinking OSX here).

_dandy_ said,
Free update for current 8.x users, like 8.1 was to 8.0, or is this a full-blown OS? It's a legitimate question that needs to be asked, IMO.

Threshold could be Windows 9. Windows 8 will have been out for 2.5yrs by the time threshold is out.

_dandy_ said,
Free update for current 8.x users, like 8.1 was to 8.0, or is this a full-blown OS? It's a legitimate question that needs to be asked, IMO.

Well, that's unknown. The only thing that is kind of sure, is that this will be Windows NT 6.4, but what name it will get? It could be either Windows 8.2, 8.5 or 9, in that last case, Windows 8 users are likely to have to pay.

Atomic Wanderer Chicken said,
What do you mean by classic code?

You know what I mean. Code that remains in Windows but is superseded by new features in Metro.

Dot Matrix said,

You know what I mean. Code that remains in Windows but is superseded by new features in Metro.


I would buy a horse first and a saddle after that. If and when Metro apps capabilities and functionalities will superseded Desktop ones maybe. Right now this is not the case.

Fritzly said,

I would buy a horse first and a saddle after that. If and when Metro apps capabilities and functionalities will superseded Desktop ones maybe. Right now this is not the case.

Not with Windows RT

Dot Matrix said,

Not with Windows RT

Indeed! I wonder if the lack of alternatives could have been one of the factors in the "not stellar" sales of the OS though.......

Dot Matrix said,
I wonder if we'll see the removal of more classic code.

Doubtful as you'll find that many of the Metro dll's have dependencies on win32 - grab a copy of dll dependency tracer and you'll see how Metro isn't a new subsystem but merely a wrapper around win32.

In the meantime I received several emails from MS forum moderator about suggestions as "File manager", "installing apps on SD cards" etc. being closed because "now" WP8 has such features...
Would it be so difficult to proper wording and say: " Closed because this functionality will be added with WP 8.1" which is what I hope it means?

Fritzly said,
In the meantime I received several emails from MS forum moderator about suggestions as "File manager", "installing apps on SD cards" etc. being closed because "now" WP8 has such features...
Would it be so difficult to proper wording and say: " Closed because this functionality will be added with WP 8.1" which is what I hope it means?

You might find this interesting then.

http://wmpoweruser.com/windows...of-an-updated-skydrive-app/

Thanks for the link; personally I prefer the way it is in W8.1 though: Skydrive should be just a folder and show up in a File manager.

Fritzly said,
Thanks for the link; personally I prefer the way it is in W8.1 though: Skydrive should be just a folder and show up in a File manager.

If the new skydrive app in WP8.1 acts like the Win8.1 app then it's both. It doesn't give you the old school tree view from the desktop world but it does let you manage file, though basic.

Atomic Wanderer Chicken said,
It really irked me that Microsoft had to add all these things in the Windows 8.1 update, to serve the traditional desktop user community.

Maybe I'm reading your comment "to serve all the traditional desktop user community"

How big is the desktop community??? Huge. Who else will they target?

The Windows tablet community in contrast is very small, when stacked up to Android and iOS. It makes me question if what Microsoft is trying to accomplish with Windows 8 is worth the effort.

Atomic Wanderer Chicken said,
It really irked me that Microsoft had to add all these things in the Windows 8.1 update, to serve the traditional desktop user community.

Windows 8.1 is probably used by 99% desktops and 1% tablets so why wouldn't they want the overwhelming majority users to have a better experience.

Hello,

MJF states that the post Windows 8.1 update, simply called Update 1 should arrive in the Spring of 2014 along with Windows Phone 8.1

I imagine it will be called at RTM Windows 8.2; Its stupid to call it "Windows 8.1 Update 1" if they wanna move away from "Windows XP Professional Service Pack 1"

riahc3 said,
Hello,

I imagine it will be called at RTM Windows 8.2; Its stupid to call it "Windows 8.1 Update 1" if they wanna move away from "Windows XP Professional Service Pack 1"

Unlikely. It will just be windows 8.1 sp1. What's so hard about that?

-adrian- said,
They will call it GDR1

They've already dropped that with WP, they simply call them "Update" now, so it'll probably be the same with windows 8.

"Threshold" in 2015 will likely be Win 8.2. But "Update 1" will just be called exactly that.

And MS don't do Service Packs anymore. No point when Windows is now updated every 12 - 18 months.

It's nice being a Win 8 user and getting all these free updates that actually add new features and improve stuff. Unlike most Service Packs of the past.

Hello,

neonspark said,

Unlikely. It will just be windows 8.1 sp1. What's so hard about that?


Microsoft I believe announced they were dropping the whole Service Pack thing...

neonspark said,

Unlikely. It will just be windows 8.1 sp1. What's so hard about that?

The hard part is the part where Microsoft stated that they dropped the use of "SP" for Windows.

Microsoft had best fix the Windows-8.x mess long before Spring 2015. Laptop and desktop users in non touch-centric environments will stay with Windows-7 (or, hopefully can restore their systems back via a system restore before they jumped into Windows-8.x and realized their mistake).

TsarNikky said,
Microsoft had best fix the Windows-8.x mess long before Spring 2015. Laptop and desktop users in non touch-centric environments will stay with Windows-7 (or, hopefully can restore their systems back via a system restore before they jumped into Windows-8.x and realized their mistake).
im a very happy windows 8 and .1 keyboard/mouse user. For me it has improved enormously over windows 7.

other then that it wont be 8.2 because there wont be a kernel upgrade.
windows naming is following original nt versioning numbers

TsarNikky said,
Microsoft had best fix the Windows-8.x mess long before Spring 2015. Laptop and desktop users in non touch-centric environments will stay with Windows-7 (or, hopefully can restore their systems back via a system restore before they jumped into Windows-8.x and realized their mistake).
I think you're the one who's mistaken; I've used Windows 8 on my laptop for the past year and a half and it works fine. I have Windows 7 on here too but I choose not to use it.

For those who don't know. Threshold is as mentioned from Halo but to be precise is it the planet you see next to Halo ring in the first game Combat Evolved.