Former Microsoft manager starting marijuana business

A little less than a month ago, Washington became one of the first states to legalize the sale of marijuana. While still illegal on a federal level, residents in the state can now sell the drug at the risk of being prosecuted by the federal government.

Jamen Shively, a former Microsoft product manager, plans on taking advantage of marijuana's new status in the state. 

According to a KIRO TV report, Shivley plans on starting a retail marijuana business. First, however, he'll spend about a year "researching and building" that business.

It's actually in his blood, too – metaphorically, not literally; OK, maybe literally as well: Shively's great grandfather, Diego Pellicer, was the world's leading marijuana producer in the late 19th century, KIRO's report claims.

"By creating the category of premium marijuana, we want to position it similar to a fine cognac, a fine brandy, a fine cigar," Shively told KIRO. "Something to be savored and enjoyed in small quantities by responsible adults."

Washington's legalization of marijuana goes into effect on Dec. 6. At that time, it will be legal for anyone 21 and older to possess marijuana. No word yet on if he plans on helping Microsoft CEO Steve Ballmer mellow out.

Source: KIRO TV via SmartPlanet | Image via KIRO TV

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theslam08 said,

1. I agree over the couner is a bad extension. But otherwise, responsible people dont go to work late, dont kill so much over MJ as they do crack/coke/heroin/etc. and MJ doesnt turn you into a 'junkie'. You know, you sound like the stupid officer on the history channel the other night talking about MJ, saying how coke and crack are better than MJ (like mj was class 1 whereas coke/crack was a class 2, 'not as bad').....ya ok. Let me go OD real quick. Yes healthy.

2. You have obviously never tried it. Its not like mushrooms that last hours. A quick relaxer is basically all it is.

3. Yes lets make cigarettes full of rat **** and road tar. And make people lose a day for every cancer stick they 'inhale'. Yes, muuuuch safer. You agree? Uncivilized? Again you have never tried it. When you see an uncivilized person, ask them what they are on...I guarantee you its not even close to MJ. MJ people would rather chill back eat some food and play some video games or watch some movies (chilling, NOT going heeyy all you black **** blam blam blam im going to go 'un civilized'.). Maybe its the natural 'wars' in the streets you see doing this, but guarantee you, its not stoners standing in the street saying hey MJ roulette!

4. Try before you bash. If you dont want to, then dont talk on the subject. It would be like me talking all about heroin as-if i was doing it on the daily (aka my point: ive never done heroin so it would make my points useless).

And the alcohol stupidness that no one brings up. No one can say how many accidents happen a year (check that, a day) all because some normal person decided to drink and drive, now your brother/sister is dead. But is alcohol on your 'uncivilized' 'bad idea' list? NO. People are 1 minded. I bet you are an alcoholic too [that never did wrong in your life - /s]....pfff. Go puff your cancer stick, drink your boose and crash your car. Ill be happy 'chilling' thank you.


No, I haven't done drugs or ever smoked. I don't see the appeal. I saw my grandmas die of lung cancer due to smoking. And alcohol causes a lot of accidents and health problems etc, I know. I've had the odd drink, again don't see the appeal in getting drunk. I'm not an alcoholic either, I'm 18 years old and yes I have done bad in my life. Also, I can comment with my opinion on the subject if I wish.

matt4444 said,

No, I haven't done drugs or ever smoked. I don't see the appeal. I saw my grandad die of lung cancer due to smoking. And alcohol causes a lot of accidents and health problems etc, I know. I've had the odd drink, again don't see the appeal in getting drunk. I'm not an alcoholic either, I'm 18 years old and yes I have done bad in my life. Also, I can comment with my opinion on the subject if I wish.

matt4444 said,

No, I haven't done drugs or ever smoked. I don't see the appeal. I saw my grandmas die of lung cancer due to smoking. And alcohol causes a lot of accidents and health problems etc, I know. I've had the odd drink, again don't see the appeal in getting drunk. I'm not an alcoholic either, I'm 18 years old and yes I have done bad in my life. Also, I can comment with my opinion on the subject if I wish.

Off topic yet somewhat related;

What is your view on gay rights?
What is your view on religion?

matt4444 said,
I'm probably going to get a load of s*** for saying this, but here I go. I think it is/was stupid to allow marijuana for everyone. For medical cases fine. But seriously, what if everyone was to begin smoking weed? Surely people would be late for work, people would smoke it and drive. Crime wouldn't go down to, as junkies would still be looking to fund their addiction.

Although weed is completely natural, it's not how life was meant to be experienced. As I once said to my friend "If people can't enjoy life without drugs, then there is something wrong with this world." And for people who say it would decrease crime due to dealers being out of business, it wouldn't there would still be demand for it or they would turn to worse crimes.

Also, it must be bad for your health as there is no way that inhaling smoke into your lungs can be good for you. Weed makes people uncivilized, it makes people do stupid things. I'm not telling people how to live their lives, I'm just saying if you let a drug rule your life, then your life must be pretty sad.

Rant over.

educate yourself..
First off you said ", it's not how life was meant to be experienced"
well that can't be true if people are all genetically born with a THC receptor in their brain. Its how people get high in the first place. the two receptors go hand and hand like a female part and a male part. so your claim goes out the window on that one..

second of all "Everyone is gonna turn in to junkies" ?
Junkies and pot users are not the same.. try going through Heroin or Cocaine or Cigarette smoke or Alcohol withdrawals and then compare that to marijuana withdrawals..
Also "everyone" will not turn into junkies.. Often people do drugs for a reason. Often their is "issues". Plenty of people go through life not doing drugs and they are content AND happy to get high on life. Many people also try smoking pot and don't like it (I've met many people like this) ANd many people may have smoked but quit because of many reasons.. such as the highs and lows.. ie the severe intensity of getting so high you can't get off the floor and you rhave a panic attack and think your gonna die off a heart attack.. i've had that happen a bunch of times myself lol
Experience that and you may never smoke again..

I think you should educate yourself.. I have
and I also smoked pot most of my life but quit permanently many years ago
simply because i got bored with it all and i started to forget to smoke my pot lol
I just lost interest and found other things to do with myself.. there was no profound reason and revelations or anything and NO i didn't have to go to rehab 'cause i was "one of the junkies".

If people can smoke and drink they should be able to smoke pot.
Although think some regulation should be imposed like no driving while high and no smoking anywhere near minors.. obviously only for adults. And no smoking in public places.. basically i don't think the general public should be exposed to it the same as cigarette smoking laws.

Oh and i knew you never did drugs or you would have known most off what i said already and that is the problem with society.. people like you are fast to spout off (and make laws etc) about things you know nothing about !
You sound like one of those old propaganda Marijuana films lol

I am Not PCyr said,

You need to stop telling everyone to educate themselves. Just because they don't share your opinions on smoking marijuana doesn't mean they're all uneducated idiots. And I'm sorry, smoking pot does do damage to your brain. And the more idiocy you keep spouting, the more it becomes obvious.

matt4444 said,
I'm probably going to get a load of s*** for saying this, but here I go. I think it is/was stupid to allow marijuana for everyone. For medical cases fine. But seriously, what if everyone was to begin smoking weed? Surely people would be late for work, people would smoke it and drive. Crime wouldn't go down to, as junkies would still be looking to fund their addiction.


Although weed is completely natural, it's not how life was meant to be experienced. As I once said to my friend "If people can't enjoy life without drugs, then there is something wrong with this world." And for people who say it would decrease crime due to dealers being out of business, it wouldn't there would still be demand for it or they would turn to worse crimes.

Also, it must be bad for your health as there is no way that inhaling smoke into your lungs can be good for you. Weed makes people uncivilized, it makes people do stupid things. I'm not telling people how to live their lives, I'm just saying if you let a drug rule your life, then your life must be pretty sad.

Rant over.

You got sand in the ears kid sdastfu

devHead said,

You need to stop telling everyone to educate themselves. Just because they don't share your opinions on smoking marijuana doesn't mean they're all uneducated idiots. And I'm sorry, smoking pot does do damage to your brain. And the more idiocy you keep spouting, the more it becomes obvious.

Ah, there is hope for the human race.

Knew that was going to be brought up. Amsterdam is now best known for cannabis and prostitutes, to me that seems very sad.

matt4444 said,
Knew that was going to be brought up. Amsterdam is now best known for cannabis and prostitutes, to me that seems very sad.

you have a problem with getting laid too ? lol
hey man if people can do it on camera legally then.. hookers should benefit too.
Porn stars have regulation and support which could potentially be extended to support sex workers and keep them safe..

Once again i doubt you know anything about it and are spouting off again..
I grew up around people like that and had many friends and acquaintances with hookers.
I guess if you don't know the people involved then they are meaningless to you then huh ?

I am Not PCyr said,

you have a problem with getting laid too ? lol
hey man if people can do it on camera legally then.. hookers should benefit too.
Porn stars have regulation and support which could potentially be extended to support sex workers and keep them safe..

Once again i doubt you know anything about it and are spouting off again..
I grew up around people like that and had many friends and acquaintances with hookers.
I guess if you don't know the people involved then they are meaningless to you then huh ?


No, I have no problem with sex obviously, but prostitution isn't exactly a respectable job, is it? If one of my friends was a prostitute, I wouldn't support them through it, I'd tell them to stop unless they wanted to contract a load of STIs.

you will NOT be able to start a marijuana business starting dec 6th until the liquor and substance board drafts laws and regulations regarding the selling of it which will not happen for another year at the most, and probably not until there is word from the federal government that they will not raid these new shops.

Ithyphallic52 said,
you will NOT be able to start a marijuana business starting dec 6th until the liquor and substance board drafts laws and regulations regarding the selling of it which will not happen for another year at the most, and probably not until there is word from the federal government that they will not raid these new shops.

Good thing he said he's going to research it for about a year then.

I don't really think you can use comparisons between marijuana and alcohol inasmuch as alcohol is a food that is metabolized by the body; marijuana is a drug and is not.

devHead said,
I don't really think you can use comparisons between marijuana and alcohol inasmuch as alcohol is a food that is metabolized by the body; marijuana is a drug and is not.

I agree, alcohol is much more dangerous. People die from drinking too much, wreck from drinking and driving, and get addicted to alcohol and end up physically harming themselves and others.

devHead said,
I don't really think you can use comparisons between marijuana and alcohol inasmuch as alcohol is a food that is metabolized by the body; marijuana is a drug and is not.

do your homework chief
google THC and how it works then come back and spout off..

lazy but still wanna throws some opinion around ?
I'll summarize for you.. Hemp is clothes, food and Hemp that has THC binds to matching male/female receptors in your brain we are all born with. We are designed and engineered to consume Marijuana.. unlike your Alcohol which is poison.

Pity more people don't get educated
Its nice n all to throw around your "matter of fact" opinions but go to school first !

I am Not PCyr said,

do your homework chief
google THC and how it works then come back and spout off..

lazy but still wanna throws some opinion around ?
I'll summarize for you.. Hemp is clothes, food and Hemp that has THC binds to matching male/female receptors in your brain we are all born with. We are designed and engineered to consume Marijuana.. unlike your Alcohol which is poison.

Pity more people don't get educated
Its nice n all to throw around your "matter of fact" opinions but go to school first !

I just said that alcohol is a food that is metabolized and marijuana isn't. Don't patronize me you pot-smoking jerk. That's not an opinion. And don't tell me to go to school. What are you, probably, 18? It's a pity you think everyone should be smoking pot. Alcohol isn't poison. Drinking it in moderation won't kill you. Get your facts straight.

devHead said,

I just said that alcohol is a food that is metabolized and marijuana isn't. Don't patronize me you pot-smoking jerk. That's not an opinion. And don't tell me to go to school. What are you, probably, 18? It's a pity you think everyone should be smoking pot. Alcohol isn't poison. Drinking it in moderation won't kill you. Get your facts straight.

I am not!

alcohol is a toxic drug that does not occur naturally (in any great quantity at least). THC does occur naturally and has a very low level of toxicity. Morphine is non-toxic and also occurs naturally. The notion of a thieving junkie is quite simply the result of illegalizing a substance that has been used for thousands of years.
The illegalizing of these drugs have been done for 'profit and control' and not for 'health' reasons; otherwise alcohol would have been banned long ago!
Why do we have receptors in our brains for these chemicals?

Edited by spUrr, Dec 3 2012, 9:16pm :

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