Gartner: Windows 8 tablets more for IT professionals

The tablet market is still growing worldwide and today a new research report from Gartner predicts that in 2012, we will see sales of tablets reach 119 million units. If that turns out to be true, it will represent a whopping 98 percent increase compared to 2011 where 60 million tablets were sold worldwide.

The report predicts that Apple's iPad will continue to dominate sales of the tablet market with 61.4 percent of the total market and tablets based on Android will take up 31.9 percent of the market.

Microsoft plans to launch Windows 8 in late 2012 and the company has been hyping up the OS's Metro interface for touch screen devices, especially tablets. Gartner predicts that Microsoft's tablet market share will be 4.1 percent in 2012 but will increase to 11.8 percent by 2016.

However, Gartner's report also predicts that Windows 8 as a tablet OS will be more popular with a particular audience. Carolina Milanesi, research vice president at Gartner, states:

IT departments will see Windows 8 as the opportunity to deploy tablets on an OS that is familiar to them and with devices offered by many enterprise-class suppliers. This means that we see Windows 8 as a strong IT-supplied offering more so than an OS with a strong consumer appeal.

Both Dell and HP have already announced plans to release business-based Windows 8 tablet devices.

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Seriously, Windows 8 will do fantastically in enterprise.

Every single person I've seen using an iPad at work spends most of their time either RDP into windows or on a citrix connection, usually into windows XP sessions that are absolutely awful for touch.

I don't agree with their speculation. 11.8% by 2016 is stunningly small for Windows 8.

Such researche are quite inaccurate. Predictions exceeding a few quarters should not be taken seriously.

excalpius said,
Gartner: The place stock investors who don't know anything about computers go for advice on computers. 8P

Exactly.

But Gartner doesn't know much either. Just see their older reports. iPhone "shouldn't" have become mainstream, Android should've been smaller than Symbian, and Blackberry was to hold its percentage marketshare, rather than see a decrease in it.

It's sad how close-minded most of the commenters on Neowin are. It seems like they haven't even given Windows 8 a real chance. It's absolutely awesome on my HP Convertible AND on my desktop. You don't need to spend time in Metro if you don't want to. The start menu is Metro, but so what? 2 seconds is the most time I spend in there.

derekaw said,
To most people 'tablet' means iPad.

This is unfortunately very true; nowadays ignorance is rampant..........

I don't see Windows 8 tablets appealing to the IT professional one bit.
If anything, IT professionals are luke warm to the whole Metro concept.

If you're not using a win7 tablet today in anticipation of using a win8 tablet tomorrow in a better form factor, You're not going to be eager to buy.

I predict the consumer market will bite faster, due to the ease of use, and simplified management.

dotf said,
I don't see Windows 8 tablets appealing to the IT professional one bit.
If anything, IT professionals are luke warm to the whole Metro concept.

If you're not using a win7 tablet today in anticipation of using a win8 tablet tomorrow in a better form factor, You're not going to be eager to buy.

I predict the consumer market will bite faster, due to the ease of use, and simplified management.

Actually, I think most are interested and currently using an iPad whenever possible. A desktop OS on a tablet is as bad as a touch UI on a desktop. It sucks. Metro will make Windows tablets much more viable in all markets.

MorganX said,

A desktop OS on a tablet is as bad as a touch UI on a desktop. It sucks. .

Mind to elaborate why a "Desktop OS", your words, would be bad on a Tablet?
A Tablet is a laptop with added features; I have been using a Tablet running Vista and W7 and I fail to see what made it a bad experience.

Fritzly said,

Mind to elaborate why a "Desktop OS", your words, would be bad on a Tablet?
A Tablet is a laptop with added features; I have been using a Tablet running Vista and W7 and I fail to see what made it a bad experience.

Better phrasing would be a Keyboard Mouse optimized UI on a tablet is as bad as a touch optimized UI on a desktop. Win 7 and the Explorer UI is not great on tablets/touch screens. Metro is not great on Desktops without touch. Both are useable, but far from great.

MorganX said,

Better phrasing would be a Keyboard Mouse optimized UI on a tablet is as bad as a touch optimized UI on a desktop. Win 7 and the Explorer UI is not great on tablets/touch screens. Metro is not great on Desktops without touch. Both are useable, but far from great.

I have nothing against "Touch" but I do not see its usefulness while using programs like Outlook or Excel etc.; sure I can touch the screen to access the program and even to, for example, opening the window to create a new email but in order to write the email content, filling data on a spreadsheet, writing a note or a letter etc. etc. I would prefer to use the ink capabilities; people who prefer a keyboard can use it, both the onscreen one or, if using a "Convertible" Tablet, a physical one.
Said that, if we are talking about control a domotized house and media like TV, music etc. I agree that a light, slate form, kind of device with a "Touch" screen and keyboard would be better.

The 2016 market share predictions seem very wrong - very low! If I'm not wrong, these tablets will be mass manufactured (especially the WOA versions) which would mean economies of scale would tramp ipad pricing. Reason being that 1.) most people spend more time on a PC @ work, they are more likely to purchase a PC for home. 2.) With Metro deployed in the workplace, Metro most familiar at home as well. 3.) Metro will be running on ARM as well as Intel 32 & 64 bit machines (oh, & Windows Phones). This consistency will create a familiarization effext on the general userbase.
The reason why the original Windows tablets were not huge sellers to the general public was because they were expensive, bulky & UI wasn't touch friendly. IT personel loved them no doubt (oh, & college students too).

Not optimism, Gartner's numbers are a gross under-estimation.

And I agree with PoohGQ's analysis. Windows 8 and Windows Phone would help each other become mainstream. Their success is tied.

Yes, I can well see a Windows-8 table being useful to check e-mail, surf the Internet, along with some "look at what I have"; which can also be very well done via any halfway competent smart phone. As for any kind of serious or intense data entry--not going to happen, unless one connects a hardware keyboard.

TsarNikky said,
Yes, I can well see a Windows-8 table being useful to check e-mail, surf the Internet, along with some "look at what I have"; which can also be very well done via any halfway competent smart phone. As for any kind of serious or intense data entry--not going to happen, unless one connects a hardware keyboard.

What about Bluetooth keyboards/cases, like this one: http://www.amazon.com/ZAGGmate...yboard-iPad-1/dp/B0052P93CY

I predict the opposite.
Not to mention if this was so true wtf is the point of pushing metro so hard, wasn't the whole point consumers and other singularly task oriented users?

edit. re-reading I see once again the headline doesn't match the content and gartner is talking about it-professionals in the sense of rolling it out to the userbase who want tablets, not them actually using them.

rajput you have always been a MS troll. I have followed you for months and lost interest in your words. Save it for another forum please.

norseman said,
rajput you have always been a MS troll. I have followed you for months and lost interest in your words. Save it for another forum please.

im writing this on my windows 7 (which i love) box... try again?

and thanks for following me. who should i make the autograph to? just norseman or do you have an actual name?

rajputwarrior said,

im writing this on my windows 7 (which i love) box... try again?

and thanks for following me. who should i make the autograph to? just norseman or do you have an actual name?

It's more your pig-headedness and inaptitude to understand new features that's annoying. Everyone here, like you said, wants an iPad and only an iPad. I recently purchased a Samsung 7 Slate and have been running Windows 8 CP on it and every single person that's had a look at it and used it wants one. Two of my friends have already ordered them and we're waiting on Windows 8 to come out so we can purchase some similarly specced tablets for our mobile employees.
The only drawback at this stage is the cost but considering the corporate discounts large companies like Dell provide I'm sure it won't be a problem.

Fred 69 said,

It's more your pig-headedness and inaptitude to understand new features that's annoying. Everyone here, like you said, wants an iPad and only an iPad. I recently purchased a Samsung 7 Slate and have been running Windows 8 CP on it and every single person that's had a look at it and used it wants one. Two of my friends have already ordered them and we're waiting on Windows 8 to come out so we can purchase some similarly specced tablets for our mobile employees.
The only drawback at this stage is the cost but considering the corporate discounts large companies like Dell provide I'm sure it won't be a problem.

and apparently in your stupidity you forgot to read the article and didn't realize it was meant for corp and enterprises, not you and your friends...

also corps don't get huge discounts at all. enterprise hardware is more expensive cause of things like warranty and support. all of you comment in the views of a bunch of hobbyists, which is fine, but this has nothing to do with that.

rajputwarrior said,
how does that make sense? they can't connect to an AD...

they are just as useful on an enterprise network as an android tablet or ipad.


Not all Windows tablets will be WOA tablets and will in-fact be an actual computer.

Chsoriano said,

Not all Windows tablets will be WOA tablets and will in-fact be an actual computer.

so you're gonna use a ten inch computer? that doesn't make sense. windows 8 is gonna flop in enterprise thanks to their UI.

and if i use a full blown OS on a tablet that means I have to get a tablet that has an actual desktop/laptop level hardware inside which would be expensive as hell. there is no point in that.

rajputwarrior said,

so you're gonna use a ten inch computer? that doesn't make sense. windows 8 is gonna flop in enterprise thanks to their UI.

and if i use a full blown OS on a tablet that means I have to get a tablet that has an actual desktop/laptop level hardware inside which would be expensive as hell. there is no point in that.

Basically all anyone does in the enterprise with an iPad or Android is check email. With Office and Lync, and custom apps as well as being a great RemoteApp client, it should do just fine. Metro is fine for Tablets, people don't really want or need a desktop on a tablet, hence tablet optimized OS' fail on tablets.

MorganX said,

Basically all anyone does in the enterprise with an iPad or Android is check email. With Office and Lync, and custom apps as well as being a great RemoteApp client, it should do just fine. Metro is fine for Tablets, people don't really want or need a desktop on a tablet, hence tablet optimized OS' fail on tablets.

you can do the majority of that no problem with android or iOS. microsoft even has an official office client coming out for iOS. vmware does all of the above as well no problem (we use VDI at work, works great on iOS, so/so on android).

I would 100 percent agree with this if the ARM tablets were able to join an AD, but MS shot themselves in the foot with that one.

rajputwarrior said,

thanks for proving my point... but to each their own!

it wasnt really to prove a point, just saying that a device like that is what i want. who knows what form factors will be around for 32/64bit models, nothing has been shown yet.

dafin0 said,

it wasnt really to prove a point, just saying that a device like that is what i want. who knows what form factors will be around for 32/64bit models, nothing has been shown yet.

to me that's a niche market and i personally know that is something that wouldn't interest me or the people i work with just cause of the costs factors/benefits.

rajputwarrior said,

to me that's a niche market and i personally know that is something that wouldn't interest me or the people i work with just cause of the costs factors/benefits.


yeah i understand your thinking, im still a bit up in the air about it all. i work in computer repairs so no mater what ill have to get used to them.

dafin0 said,

yeah i understand your thinking, im still a bit up in the air about it all. i work in computer repairs so no mater what ill have to get used to them.

You know who's gonna love this? People who travel a lot. It sucks to use a laptop on a plane - the tray isn't big enough, for one thing. But a tablet that will create and edit documents and spreadsheets, and, more importantly, run other programs that are made for Windows and will never be ported to iOS or Android, that is the appeal. Who cares if it's on Active Directory? Programs like Sugarsync or Dropbox fix that problem, because they sync your work between on/off domain computers. In fact, I'd rather my tablet remain mine, and not be partially owned by the company, anyway.

JoDaddy said,

You know who's gonna love this? People who travel a lot. It sucks to use a laptop on a plane - the tray isn't big enough, for one thing. But a tablet that will create and edit documents and spreadsheets, and, more importantly, run other programs that are made for Windows and will never be ported to iOS or Android, that is the appeal. Who cares if it's on Active Directory? Programs like Sugarsync or Dropbox fix that problem, because they sync your work between on/off domain computers. In fact, I'd rather my tablet remain mine, and not be partially owned by the company, anyway.

sugarsync and dropbox doesn't fix that problem. apparently you think all an AD does is sync files between multiple machines which it DOESN'T do that at all. office is coming to iOS so that makes the first part of your statement mute and other office tablets apps already exist that work really well for both android and iOS. if you're statement

JoDaddy said,

You know who's gonna love this? People who travel a lot. It sucks to use a laptop on a plane - the tray isn't big enough, for one thing. But a tablet that will create and edit documents and spreadsheets, and, more importantly, run other programs that are made for Windows and will never be ported to iOS or Android, that is the appeal. Who cares if it's on Active Directory? Programs like Sugarsync or Dropbox fix that problem, because they sync your work between on/off domain computers. In fact, I'd rather my tablet remain mine, and not be partially owned by the company, anyway.

yeah very true. i do see a need for them, how many people also see the need is yet to be seen.
at the small shop that i work at a few people have displayed interest in Windows based tablets.

rajputwarrior said,

so you're gonna use a ten inch computer? that doesn't make sense. windows 8 is gonna flop in enterprise thanks to their UI.

and if i use a full blown OS on a tablet that means I have to get a tablet that has an actual desktop/laptop level hardware inside which would be expensive as hell. there is no point in that.

One lesson about Executives, they get what they want. If they want a tablet, it is the job of IT to deliver. Android and iOS tablets are a pain a secured and complex environment. Given the opportunity to deliver a tablet running a known OS, known security tools and familiar apps (Office); IT departments will be happy.

zeke009 said,
One lesson about Executives, they get what they want. If they want a tablet, it is the job of IT to deliver. Android and iOS tablets are a pain a secured and complex environment. Given the opportunity to deliver a tablet running a known OS, known security tools and familiar apps (Office); IT departments will be happy.

i know this, and all the execs i deal with want iPads and nothing else. Me (and the rest the IT department) could care less about windows 8. we all played with it, laughed, and went back to windows 7 happily. we happily would give android tabs (i have one and love it) but they don't want them. they all want ipads. and from my experience, none of them care about being able to edit or create documents. it's more for email, presentations and looking over documents. that's all they use them for.

rajputwarrior said,

i know this, and all the execs i deal with want iPads and nothing else. Me (and the rest the IT department) could care less about windows 8. we all played with it, laughed, and went back to windows 7 happily. we happily would give android tabs (i have one and love it) but they don't want them. they all want ipads. and from my experience, none of them care about being able to edit or create documents. it's more for email, presentations and looking over documents. that's all they use them for.

Android tabs are garbage IMO. Terrible. We provide execs with iPads. Android tabs are outlawed. Hopefully Windows 8 tabs can eliminate iPads and iTunes. High hopes for the Lumia 900 and Titan II eliminating iPhones.

As for Windows 8, on desktop, yes laugh. On Server, I suggest you take a second look.

MorganX said,

Android tabs are garbage IMO. Terrible. We provide execs with iPads. Android tabs are outlawed. Hopefully Windows 8 tabs can eliminate iPads and iTunes. High hopes for the Lumia 900 and Titan II eliminating iPhones.

As for Windows 8, on desktop, yes laugh. On Server, I suggest you take a second look.

i haven't checked out windows 8 server yet. i do have high hopes for that though. 2008 and 2008 r2 are both brilliant.

rajputwarrior said,

you can do the majority of that no problem with android or iOS. microsoft even has an official office client coming out for iOS. vmware does all of the above as well no problem (we use VDI at work, works great on iOS, so/so on android).

I would 100 percent agree with this if the ARM tablets were able to join an AD, but MS shot themselves in the foot with that one.

Based on typical use, I'm not sure a tablet needs to be able to join AD. The Exchange client will be secure. Slates like the Samsung are full PCs and will be able to join. WOA will be tablets, supporting Metro only apps, I'm not sure why I would need want tablets to join AD.

MorganX said,

Based on typical use, I'm not sure a tablet needs to be able to join AD. The Exchange client will be secure. Slates like the Samsung are full PCs and will be able to join. WOA will be tablets, supporting Metro only apps, I'm not sure why I would need want tablets to join AD.

tracking, printers, policies etc etc. i think in a corp environment it wouldn't be so bad.

rajputwarrior said,

you can do the majority of that no problem with android or iOS. microsoft even has an official office client coming out for iOS. vmware does all of the above as well no problem (we use VDI at work, works great on iOS, so/so on android).

I would 100 percent agree with this if the ARM tablets were able to join an AD, but MS shot themselves in the foot with that one.

The iPad Lync app is awesome. itunes, lack of expandability, and cost of repair/replacement as well as lack of centralized management are some of the reasons a lot of people don't want iOS in the enterprise. Of course, custom tablet apps will be huge especially if deployed through a private MS Store in Windows 8.

rajputwarrior said,
how does that make sense? they can't connect to an AD...

they are just as useful on an enterprise network as an android tablet or ipad.

I was distracted from the point you were making in every single one of your comments by your lack of capitalization. I don't know why, but it seems to me that anyone who acts like they know everything about computers and their users would use proper sentence formats.

Also, as a consumer, I will be buying a Windows 8 tablet. Metro is so amazing and will be perfect on a tablet device for my fingers. It will be like a laptop if I need it to be (desktop mode, attach mouse and keyboard), and like my WP7 on a larger scale when using Metro on the go. Perfect.

rajputwarrior said,

so you're gonna use a ten inch computer? that doesn't make sense. windows 8 is gonna flop in enterprise thanks to their UI.

and if i use a full blown OS on a tablet that means I have to get a tablet that has an actual desktop/laptop level hardware inside which would be expensive as hell. there is no point in that.

Why so? I replaced my laptop with a "Convertible", PC Tablet ten years ago and never looked back.

The way Gates envisioned a Tablet was to give, to the users who wanted it, everything a laptop offered plus additional features.
That was what I liked then and I still like nowadays and this is the reason I never considered an iPad and I would not consider a WOA Tablet.

Fritzly said,

Why so? I replaced my laptop with a "Convertible", PC Tablet ten years ago and never looked back.

The way Gates envisioned a Tablet was to give, to the users who wanted it, everything a laptop offered plus additional features.
That was what I liked then and I still like nowadays and this is the reason I never considered an iPad and I would not consider a WOA Tablet.

that's you. that's good. im glad you guys see the value in windows 8, but in corp i just don't. morganx made a great point about how execx are and they are not going to be carrying around a bunch of accessories with their tablets to make it into a laptop, they would just buy a thin laptop like a macbook air or zenbook.

rajputwarrior said,

that's you. that's good. im glad you guys see the value in windows 8, but in corp i just don't. morganx made a great point about how execx are and they are not going to be carrying around a bunch of accessories with their tablets to make it into a laptop, they would just buy a thin laptop like a macbook air or zenbook.

We all have our own preferences and I have no problem with it but........
I use "Conertible" Tablets which are laptops plus the Tablet specific features.

rajputwarrior said,

sugarsync and dropbox doesn't fix that problem. apparently you think all an AD does is sync files between multiple machines which it DOESN'T do that at all. office is coming to iOS so that makes the first part of your statement mute and other office tablets apps already exist that work really well for both android and iOS. if you're statement

No, I didn't think that AD only copies files. But you do need it to access network shares. That's where programs like Sugarsync, Dropbox come in. However, I just saw Intel's specs for Win 8 tablets, and it includes AD, so it doesn't matter, anyway.

Is Office really coming to iOS, or is it just a rumor still? I saw a picture, but then MS denied it. That would be fantastic if it was. However, I still need to run non-Office programs, and that is why I am looking forward to checking out a Win 8 tablet. From what I know, it will actually be a full computer.