George lies about having a PSN account [Update]

The Internet is full of David vs Goliath stories. But when Sony allegedly decided to go after George Hotz for hacking the PlayStation 3, the Internet wept and donated to help fight his legal battles.

But, everything Hotz had said was not entirely true, specifically that he never had a PSN account. Unfortunately, it seems like many people bought into his story and donated to his cause. But from the releases from the Sony legal team, he never had a PSN ID and that he has also fled to South America. The statements below come from vghq.net, Sony filed in court that:

Though the evidence establishing personal jurisdiction is already overwhelming, SCEA has little doubt that there is much more. However, over the last several weeks. Hotz has engaged in a campaign to thwart jurisdictional discovery at every turn –regardless of whether the Court has ordered such discovery or not. Most seriously, after Magistrate Judge Spero ordered an inspection of Hotz’s devices and ordered Hotz to appear at a deposition in California, SCEA learned that Hotz had deliberately removed integral components of his impounded hard drives prior to delivering them to a third party neutral and that Hotz is now in South America, an excuse for why he will not immediately provide the components of his hard drives as requested by the neutral. Hotz’s attempts to dodge this Court’s authority raise very serious questions.

There was also this information about his PSN ID

    On January 12, 2011, Hotz submitted a declaration to the Court (Docket No. 19-1) in which he made unequivocal statements on a number of topics. However, when it came to discussing the PSN account, Hotz equivocated, stating: “To the best of my knowledge and belief, I do not have a PlayStation Network account.” Hotz also provided interrogatory responses that he has refused to verify, stating that he has not accessed the PSN. Bricker Decl. 4.Hotz identified four PS3 Systems in his possession. Bricker Decl., 4, Exh. C. He explained that he had purchased one of these consoles new in February 2010 and provided the serial number for that console. Id. SCEA used that serial number to determine that on February 25, 2010, Hotz purchased the PS3 System at a Gamestop store just miles from his home. Law Decl., 6; Bricker Decl., 6, Exh. E. SCEA’s records show that the same PS3 System was used on March 10, 2010 to create a PSN account under the user name “blickmanic.” Law Decl., 6, Exh. A. The IP address associated with the registration is located in Glen Rock, New Jersey, where Hotz lives.

We need to make it clear that Sony was/still is pursuing George Hotz, but his entire story was not exactly true. Unfortunately at this point it is hard to separate the truth vs what George Hotz has fabricated. He even went as far to create a rap aimed at Sony for the lawsuit that also fueled donations to his fight.

What is ahead for Hotz is unknown, now that he is in South America, he may be too far away for Sony to continue its fight. No matter what happens, the information that he puts forward now must be taken with a grain of salt as his previous statements were not entirely true.

[Update] An odd change of events has taken place and it turns out Sony has their facts mixed up. Hotz is on vacation in South America and has turned over the required information.

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This whole thing is silly. This is like sony sueing someone for painting there vaio or changing a hardrive. What if I modd my PS and give it a pink case... Am I going to get sues... He never hacked sony... He allowed ppl to hack there own consumer device in there home of there free will. He should run... hes young and scared casue one of the largest companys in the world is after him and money talks IN US legal system

I'm going to agree, while pedophiles, rapists, and murderers are getting a few years of time, our justice system wastes its time and resources with a kid that circumvented a copy protection scheme. Who cares. Nobody died from all of this hacking. Our economy is in crap shape, unemployment numbers are up, we have three wars going on, not to mention all the other crap we have to deal with on a regular basis. Anyone who wants to see this kid go to jail over a software hack is absurd. Let's fill up our jails with hackers. Yeah, that's the ticket!

This was probably the worst written article I ever saw on Neowin. And that is saying something...

Please clean this mess up. And fire the writer.

Hackers that release the tools to pirate console games aren't just hurting Sony, MS and Nintendo, but all of the smaller developers. Hacking a console in your own home isn't doing to much damage, but facilitating piracy has its consequences and those hackers that release their hacks will have to pay the price if they are caught. There is no noble fight to free anything here. Everyone that uses a console agrees to follow the rules set in place by the manufacturer (which they can change at any time). If people don't like it, then they don't have to buy the consoles in the first place. He obviously likes the console enough to buy 4 of them, but his actions, if not stopped, could have hurt the chances for future consoles (by making it harder to profit than it already is).

SONY NEEDS TO STOP BEING *******S AND DROP THE CASE!!!! Unless he actually stole these files from your servers directly, he used s/w he BOUGHT on a computer he BOUGHT to modify a colsole HE BOUGHT. No where in the US Constitution does it say that companies have a right to controll things that they make after they're purchased by a consumer. I'm pretty sure one of the ammendments in the Bill of Rights(US) is the right to property. It's as simple as this Once I purchase a product, It is mine to modify and change however I see fit. Therefore, A COMPANY HAS NO RIGHT TO CONTROLL WHAT WE CAN AND CAN'T DO WITH ITEMS WE PURCHASE unless of course we sign a contract with our SIGNATURE, that states otherwise.

it's sad to see Neowin has dropped to such a low level.
writing stories without any research at all.
and the comments are filled with corporate trolls.
sigh. miss the good old autopatcher days.

to Sony: F*CK OFF. stop bullying little kids you f*cking as*hole.

Surprise, Surprise, he lied and fabricated the truth and people gave him money. Now he's run away to another country instead of using the money to fight the charges.

I have no sympathy for this guy. He deserves what he gets.

Chrono951 said,
Surprise, Surprise, he lied and fabricated the truth and people gave him money. Now he's run away to another country instead of using the money to fight the charges.

I have no sympathy for this guy. He deserves what he gets.

Maybe you should take the time to read the comments before you

Because with more and more people blocking ads, they need their clicks from somewhere. Sensationalist titles = attention.

Educated Idiot said,
Because with more and more people blocking ads, they need their clicks from somewhere. Sensationalist titles = attention.

Funny thing is that the site everyone continues to link to as the source (including neowin) is literally 22 days old!

Read these first

http://psx-scene.com/forums/f6...-flees-south-america-83925/
http://www.wired.com/threatlev...1/03/sony-hotz-skipped-tow/
http://ps3.ign.com/articles/115/1157239p1.html

Serious question here. Why does the staff at Neowin continually use fly-by night websites as news sources. Please, don't give me this "because everyone is reporting this" nonsense. At least wired and IGN took the proper measures that real journalists would take, contact Hotz's attorney.

Anooxy said,

Haha, no. PS3 wasn't just jailbroken, you were able to play pirated games. That's a big deal compared to what he did to iPhone. Most of Hotz supporters are those who can't realize how much of an issue that is for Sony.

And jailbreaking the iphone allowed people to not just use different carriers but also install pirated apps instead of paying for them.

Ok, Ive been following Geohots work since he jailbroke the iPod / iPhone, Apple didnt persue him, many repsected him, he did the same or the PS3, Sony did persue him, and everyone respected him more..

Now that a little tidbit of info that hes in S. America, and everyone assumes he fled? seriously folks, after dealing with this kind of media and exposure, you would want to get out of the country yourself...

If and when he decides to come back, let the court and Sony go after him, but everyone is going to look and sound like a huge ass if it is all false (On sonys or Mr. Hotz' end)

Xerino said,
Ok, Ive been following Geohots work since he jailbroke the iPod / iPhone, Apple didnt persue him, many repsected him, he did the same or the PS3, Sony did persue him, and everyone respected him more..

Haha, no. PS3 wasn't just jailbroken, you were able to play pirated games. That's a big deal compared to what he did to iPhone. Most of Hotz supporters are those who can't realize how much of an issue that is for Sony.

really depends how you look at it, Geohotz work just jailbroke the PS3, people discovered it could play pirated games after, and george himself said that wasnt its intent (which doesnt matter if it was or wasnt true, might have just said that to cover his ass)

but with a jailbroken iphone, you can run (borderline) pirated apps rom cydia, I say borerline because they are created to basically do the same thing as the apps on the app store, even if they are created by someone else...

This is the first time that Neowin has let me down, but what a way to do it. Hope you enjoy your loose of confidence, but oh well, I'm not gonna be unfair, the writer of this article goes in a no serious fashion for me from now on.

If it is true he is just taking a vacation.. maybe it's because this is the last time he will ever have the money donated to him to be able to afford such a thing. Because after Sony is done with him, he will be a poor man for a while.

neufuse said,
obvisouly sony forgot to get the courts to mark him as a flight risk *lol*

lol, Sony is full of fail. Well he's not exactly a major criminal or terrorist unless Sony tried to make something up to paint him as one, this is the USA after all. So in my view he is perfectly entitled to take a trip on a pane

PotatoJ said,
Neowin is ****ing retarded. Hotz is on vacation. This article also has insufficient proof regarding proof of Geohot having a PSN account.

Most gaming relating sites are running the same story, it is Sony saying about his PSN account and him going to South America - where he has at least been since last week. George of the Jungle, in more ways than one

PotatoJ said,
Neowin is ****ing retarded. Hotz is on vacation. This article also has insufficient proof regarding proof of Geohot having a PSN account.

If I were in the midst of a legal case against such a large corporation, I would NOT take a vacation outside of the continent (country, perhaps...Canada is nice). All this does is add fuel to Sony's case that Hotz is guilty.

Byron_Hinson said,

Most gaming relating sites are running the same story, it is Sony saying about his PSN account and him going to South America - where he has at least been since last week. George of the Jungle, in more ways than one

That still is not proof that he indeed had a PSN account or not.
The article states that he did have one and takes it for a proven fact.

I really don't care much about this whole thing, but the article states that this guy lied based on a quote that related the console ID with a username and the IP address.

I'm not saying otherwise, but it is too much to make an assumption like that. A friend of his or even other person (the IP only relates to the town he lives in, not his house) can be the owner of that account. The original article mentions that searching the user name resulted on post about jailbreaking the PS3 as another fact. It still can be any person living in Glen Rock, NJ and not this guy.

Does it really matter if he had a PSN account or not? This is Sony trying to dirty up the defendent so when they get a jury together the odds of them finding people that would rule against Hotz would be greater than before. The same thing happens in criminal trials especially in rape cases. I don't agree with him fleeing to South America(if its true), but hes young and scared.

This isn't like Sony taking down a botnet, or a mass piracy group this is sony taking down a kid. I understand sony is trying to set president, but if he really did flee the jurisdiction this is probably one of the smartest Hotz could have done. No president means its more likely for another Hotz to come up and hack the PS4 and sony will have to do this all over again. Unless they can continue the trial without him being there...

And for those of you that are complaining because Hotz exposed multiple games to being acted...get over it.

eviltwigflipper said,
I understand sony is trying to set president, but if he really did flee the jurisdiction this is probably one of the smartest Hotz could have done. No president means its more likely for another Hotz to come up and hack the PS4 and sony will have to do this all over again.

I believe the word you're looking for is "precedent". (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Precedent)
Although I can imagine SCEA trying to set "president" too, an image which is truly terrifying indeed.

lunarworks said,
It does matter if he signed up for a PSN account: It means he agreed to the Terms of Service.

Also, he's not a kid. He's 21.

21 is a kid.. he had a whole life ahead of him until sony took it away.

lunarworks said,
It does matter if he signed up for a PSN account: It means he agreed to the Terms of Service.

Also, he's not a kid. He's 21.

21 is still very young. Hell, Im only 28, and I still feel young, but looking back on 21, it is still very much a kid, as maturity is not hit well upon the later 20's usually.... though some of us may never fully mature

blahism said,

21 is a kid.. he had a whole life ahead of him until sony took it away.

I'm lost - what has been taken away so far? If he's on vacation, very little

blahism said,

21 is a kid.. he had a whole life ahead of him until sony took it away.


*facepalm* seriously?

He made a *choice* when he 1) decided to hack firmware, and 2) decided to release that info to the public. These are the consequences of those choices...he knew full well that Sony would come down on him like a ton of bricks.

The fact that he's now tampering with evidence AND running away means he thinks he's going to be found guilty of breaking the ToS. So what if he's the small guy vs. a big corporation? If we let one idiot like this get away with it then everyone would be at it, and there wouldn't be a console to hack to begin with!

And whats the bet that the jury Sony does agree to wont have ever used an PS3 nor likely to have seen one being used and therefore have no idea about whats really going on

Bhav said,

*facepalm* seriously?

He made a *choice* when he 1) decided to hack firmware, and 2) decided to release that info to the public. These are the consequences of those choices...he knew full well that Sony would come down on him like a ton of bricks.

The fact that he's now tampering with evidence AND running away means he thinks he's going to be found guilty of breaking the ToS. So what if he's the small guy vs. a big corporation? If we let one idiot like this get away with it then everyone would be at it, and there wouldn't be a console to hack to begin with!

I take it you don't have any nasty ghosts in your closet...


I believe the word you're looking for is "precedent". (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Precedent)
Although I can imagine SCEA trying to set "president" too, an image which is truly terrifying indeed.

Thank you I knew that looked wrong but chrome didn't correct it .

Easy to tell the kids from adults, or at least the mature from immature.
This kid broke the law, suckered hundreds to thousands of other suckers out of money, lied to the courts, and ran out of the country, and there are still retards rooting for him.... sheesh, how are some people so dense?
If you still root for him, just continue to give him your money. I'm sure he will very much enjoy it, and you would most likely just lose it anyway, seeing how you already show less than average intelligence.

shakey said,
Easy to tell the kids from adults, or at least the mature from immature.
This kid broke the law, suckered hundreds to thousands of other suckers out of money, lied to the courts, and ran out of the country, and there are still retards rooting for him.... sheesh, how are some people so dense?
If you still root for him, just continue to give him your money. I'm sure he will very much enjoy it, and you would most likely just lose it anyway, seeing how you already show less than average intelligence.

Yes it is kiddo...

With maturity you will find the term 'retard' incorrectly used in your comment, and offensive.

With maturity people are less likely to assert someone 'broke the law', at least in the US, as there is the whole pesky 8th amendment, due process, and presumption of innocence.

With maturity you will have seen injustice, and realize how power and money can destroy lives.

Keep in mind, this was a civil lawsuit...

Sony pushed the legal limits with the pursuit of this person, and the judge allowed gathering of evidence that violated the privacy of individuals outside of the scope of the case. A better defense team would have stopped Sony's abuses.

The real story has nothing to do with this specific person, as I would bet most people that supported him didn't know or care about him, but did care about Sony's horrid actions and the questionable details of the lawsuit.

People should be questioning if these types of actions are in fact illegal, as there are some really good legal arguments that they are not. For example, you do realize his hack was to enable the 'Other OSes' feature, which is something the US military also bypassed in their PS3 clusters?
(Do you see Sony suing the US military?)

The other part of this story that should be questioned, is the massive money and power that targeted a single individual, and how the legal system failed to equalize this.

I am not a fan of George, and don't really care about his hack, but I do care that Sony would impoverish a person and effectively destroy their life. If I found myself in the same situation, I can envision saying 'screw it' and leave as well.

This was a civil lawsuit, this was not a criminal lawsuit, which makes the entire evidence process and the ramifications of the judge's rulings even more troubling.

Should I be able to take the wealth of my company, and sue you, and then use that lawsuit to gather evidence on all your neighbors, all the people that viewed your facebook page, evidence on everyone that viewed any videos you published on YouTube?

The answer should be no, and it probably should have been no in this case as well.

I hit a nerve did I? First, this is a forum. How someone types is not a way to judge their age or mental capacity, as many here use English as a 2nd language and make many mistakes. Someone can speak how ever crudely they please, and still be more mature than most. Speech is something you get from your environment, and isn't the best tool for judgement.....
Buuttt...... English teacher, here is a definition for :
re·tard
-noun
a. a mentally retarded person.
b. a person who is stupid, obtuse, or ineffective in some way: a hopeless social retard.

If you potentially cost my company millions to billions, Yes, I would push to the furthest extent of the law to stop you and those around you trying to. Just because Sony is a big company, and Geo is a little kid, does not make Sony wrong on how they did what they did.

If you did something like this, I would be calling you the same as what everyone else is calling Geo. Don't want that kind of attention, then maybe you play by the rules that are governing what you have and use.

If you don't want to be known as a pedo, don't mess with kids. If you don't want Sony on your ass, don't mess with their software and then distribute it around the internet.

Two things:
1) there is no cited source for this post, so it could be entirely fictional.
2) There are some goddamn stupid people that continue to think that Geohot is being unfairly oppressed.

LonoSG said,
1) there is no cited source for this post, so it could be entirely fictional.

It's cited in the post text...

The statements below come from vghq.net

LonoSG said,
Two things:
1) there is no cited source for this post, so it could be entirely fictional.
2) There are some goddamn stupid people that continue to think that Geohot is being unfairly oppressed.

+1

What I get from this is that it's quite sad a person is forced to run from the country for jail-breaking their piece of tech. Sad indeed.

helios01 said,
What I get from this is that it's quite sad a person is forced to run from the country for jail-breaking their piece of tech. Sad indeed.

But if as he said - his case is sound and he has nothing to worry about and would bury sony in court - why did he need to? I guess the belief he has done something wrong may be behind it

Byron_Hinson said,

But if as he said - his case is sound and he has nothing to worry about and would bury sony in court - why did he need to? I guess the belief he has done something wrong may be behind it

People commit suicide over less. WHen you're young and facing hundreds of thousands of dollars (or millions) in liabilities or the possibility of bankruptcy before you have your first job the last thing young people do is act rationally and mostly because this case is irrational to begin with. Sony basically killed this kids future over a freaking GAME console.

blahism said,

People commit suicide over less. WHen you're young and facing hundreds of thousands of dollars (or millions) in liabilities or the possibility of bankruptcy before you have your first job the last thing young people do is act rationally and mostly because this case is irrational to begin with. Sony basically killed this kids future over a freaking GAME console.

Well he loved the publicity early on and hasn't been exactly lowering the ego on his blog so....

This is madness, bullying by Sony.
George Hotz = 1x (Very Intelligent, should be working for Sony) Person
Sony = Multimillon $ Enterprise corporation with at least 100x people on their legal team.

Come on Sony. Stop bullying and Just pay him off not to peruse this and not to give away any secrets.

As the saying goes: Keep your friends close but keep your enemies closer!!!

mammix2 said,
This is madness, bullying by Sony.
George Hotz = 1x (Very Intelligent, should be working for Sony) Person
Sony = Multimillon $ Enterprise corporation with at least 100x people on their legal team.

Come on Sony. Stop bullying and Just pay him off not to peruse this and not to give away any secrets.

As the saying goes: Keep your friends close but keep your enemies closer!!!


"Not to pursue this and not to give away any secrets?" He already has already found the vulnerability and published it publicly...

mammix2 said,
This is madness, bullying by Sony.
George Hotz = 1x (Very Intelligent, should be working for Sony) Person
Sony = Multimillon $ Enterprise corporation with at least 100x people on their legal team.

Come on Sony. Stop bullying and Just pay him off not to peruse this and not to give away any secrets.

As the saying goes: Keep your friends close but keep your enemies closer!!!


So a company should just let it go and not protect their property? In your words stealing from wealthy is ok? You do realize more piracy means less games, don't you?

The funniest about it is that Geohot is an arrogant brat, he didn't do jack **** about hacking PS3, he just published master key and tried to claim the fame, nothing more. He did release a firmware though, but so did others, except others are smart enough to be quiet and not brag about it.... and when you look at it, he's not that intelligent, is he?

theh0g said,

So a company should just let it go and not protect their property? In your words stealing from wealthy is ok? You do realize more piracy means less games, don't you?

The funniest about it is that Geohot is an arrogant brat, he didn't do jack **** about hacking PS3, he just published master key and tried to claim the fame, nothing more. He did release a firmware though, but so did others, except others are smart enough to be quiet and not brag about it.... and when you look at it, he's not that intelligent, is he?


Your argument about others keeping quite is flawed(" except others are smart enough to be quiet and not brag about it"). Only after Geohot released the key, others were able to create a cfw. since you need the key to sign the cfw. If you dont know what you are talking about dont say it. I am not here to argue about your comments just pointing out whats wrong with your comment.

still1 said,

Your argument about others keeping quite is flawed(" except others are smart enough to be quiet and not brag about it"). Only after Geohot released the key, others were able to create a cfw. since you need the key to sign the cfw. If you dont know what you are talking about dont say it. I am not here to argue about your comments just pointing out whats wrong with your comment.

Wasn't the whole deal due to some internal employee of Sony leaking things?

Anooxy said,

Wasn't the whole deal due to some internal employee of Sony leaking things?

Then why don't Sony go after the person who leaked it? Go for the source but I guess that's to obvious.

mammix2 said,

As the saying goes: Keep your friends close but keep your enemies closer!!!

So true, he could have been very useful for Sony to use his talent but no Sony has to be heavy handed and go over the top and basically treat him as some sort of major criminal.

Sony has handled this so baldly and the US legal system stinks. Firstly it seems that seem who ever has the most money wins and secondly your guilty until proven innocent and not the other way around like it is here in Western Europe. The US legal system totally stinks in my view and needs reforming and take a leaf from a sane country like here in England.

nub said,
Why doesn't sony just drop this **** already?

Sure let's forget all those lost $$$ and move on. They need to set an example if this occurs again.

Anooxy said,

Sure let's forget all those lost $$ and move on. They need to set an example if this occurs again.

What lost $$$? As far as i know Hotz wasn't running a pirate ring nor did he steal the Playstations involved.

Anooxy said,

Sure let's forget all those lost $$ and move on. They need to set an example if this occurs again.

What lost $$$? As far as i know Hotz wasn't running a pirate ring nor did he steal the Playstations involved.

blahism said,

What lost $$? As far as i know Hotz wasn't running a pirate ring nor did he steal the Playstations involved.

The more you Hotz fans try to evade it the more I'm amused. The whole issue resulted in people being able to play pirated games. This makes Sony lose a lot of money. And why, all because of Hotz's doing. They don't care if he claims he didn't do it for pirating... in the end it resulted to that. And they want to tell them people to not attempt stupid stuff like him next time or they'll do this again.

With the way Sony was able to get the judge to force getting info on people who google/watched the youtube video, twitter accounts, and everything else, and seemed to over step its bounds as somehow an enity of the law(really why are they allowed to be the ones to sniff through people's information instead of law enforcement?...) basically I can see why he would leave the country, the chance of fair trial in first place is gone, even if he did have a PSN account(not that they matter at all...), in america it is no longer innocent till proven guilty for civil crimes since corporations have too much power, and hands in the hands of the legal system/government, same way they got the right to throw as much money as they want for elections, making the people weak and slaves to whoever is in power....

Anooxy said,
If you want a fair trial, you don't lie to the court.

Not necessarily...there's alot of people who don't lie and they still go to prison...why do you think there are people who are found not guilty years later still get released from prison.

Zedox said,
Not necessarily...there's alot of people who don't lie and they still go to prison...why do you think there are people who are found not guilty years later still get released from prison.

What he said is syntactically correct. He didn't say "you will get a fair trial as a result of not lying to to court". You also misinterpreted it as "don't lie to the court and the court's decision will agree with the absolute truth," which is not what a fair trial is.

If George Hotz wanted anything to go his way at all, he would've told the truth.

Zedox said,

Not necessarily...there's alot of people who don't lie and they still go to prison...why do you think there are people who are found not guilty years later still get released from prison.

Those people are usually found not guilty because DNA testing wasn't around or as completely new at the time of judgement. These days, you don't see many innocent people going to jail, unless they are involved with the mafia/gang and take the fall for someone else (on purpose).

As for Sony 'sniffing' through the information, here in the US, people are innocent until proven guilty. It is up to Sony to prove Hotz is guilty and thus they are going through any documents they can get their hands on to prove their case. This is quite normal.

Zedox said,

Not necessarily...there's alot of people who don't lie and they still go to prison...why do you think there are people who are found not guilty years later still get released from prison.

I never said the opposite was true.

Anooxy said,
If you want a fair trial, you don't lie to the court.

they have no proof that it was infact geohotz that created the mentioned PSN account it could have been anyone with access to the PS3 in question that created the account but alas the US legal system is so screwed up that the burden of proof falls on the accused not the accuser

kennyout said,
With the way Sony was able to get the judge to force getting info on people who google/watched the youtube video, twitter accounts, and everything else, and seemed to over step its bounds as somehow an enity of the law(really why are they allowed to be the ones to sniff through people's information instead of law enforcement?...) basically I can see why he would leave the country, the chance of fair trial in first place is gone, even if he did have a PSN account(not that they matter at all...), in america it is no longer innocent till proven guilty for civil crimes since corporations have too much power, and hands in the hands of the legal system/government, same way they got the right to throw as much money as they want for elections, making the people weak and slaves to whoever is in power....

You're an idiot. This kid did something illegal and released it for everyone. This can cause a lot of problems not just for Sony but for the thousands of people that work for Sony. Did you even think before posting?

norseman said,

You're an idiot. This kid did something illegal and released it for everyone. This can cause a lot of problems not just for Sony but for the thousands of people that work for Sony. Did you even think before posting?

Nice how you call him an idiot, when it seems like you were the one that didnt think before posting...I dont care either way whether the kid is innocent or not. But what gets me is how sony was able to get all this info in the first place. You cannot seriously believe this was above board, what with all the privacy issues that judgement skirts.

Shouldn't the title say "George Hotz runs *to*South America; lies about having a PSN account" - not that he runs South America?
Unless of course he has been appointed the new King of South America, in which case he can grant himself a pardon for any wrongdoing.

gark said,
Shouldn't the title say "George Hotz runs *to*South America; lies about having a PSN account" - not that he runs South America?
Unless of course he has been appointed the new King of South America, in which case he can grant himself a pardon for any wrongdoing.

All hail King Hotz!? D:

still1 said,
Isnt it obvious that he would have created a psn id and whoever believed it should be real dumb

Ever heard if 'innocent until proven guilty'? Of course he's going to deny everything, he's in deep **** either way.

what said,

Ever heard if 'innocent until proven guilty'? Of course he's going to deny everything, he's in deep **** either way.


"But, everything Hotz had said was not entirely true, specifically that he never had a PSN account.Unfortunately, it seems like many people bought into his story and donated to his cause."
i was quoting this statement... many knew that he was lying and still donated.... who ever believed his story and donated will be real dumb and yeah he is in **** load of trouble.

The Protagonist said,
he better not have used the donation money to get to south america, i else it wont be sony he will have to worry about >:@

what about the people that gave him money? Aiding a fugitive? *lol*

The Protagonist said,

he wasn't a fugitive at the time so i am off the hook

Just wait until the courts issue warrants for bank records of anyone who donated to him *lol* you know Sony will try..... just because...

The Protagonist said,
he better not have used the donation money to get to south america, i else it wont be sony he will have to worry about >:@

oh man, you actually donated to this fool... sorry, but hahahahahhahahaha
One fool made a fool of thousands. That's what you get for supporting immature kids who have no respect for the law.

shakey said,

oh man, you actually donated to this fool... sorry, but hahahahahhahahaha
One fool made a fool of thousands. That's what you get for supporting immature kids who have no respect for the law.

shakey said,

oh man, you actually donated to this fool... sorry, but hahahahahhahahaha
One fool made a fool of thousands. That's what you get for supporting immature kids who have no respect for the law.

This article puts a HUGE smile on my face. First, because he ran to S. America, which clearly indicates Sony has a great case going for them and he is ****ed. Second, I hope Sony goes after everyone that donated to this now assumed felon. They won't get anything because facts were few and far between at the time of donation, but it should be a lesson to these kids in the future to think before they act.

I applaud Sony for continuing their pursuit of Hotz, and I hope the kid is brought to justice

Elessar said,

I applaud Sony for continuing their pursuit of Hotz, and I hope the kid is brought to justice

Justice for what though? You do realize Sony is waisting US criminal system time by chasing someone who really didn't commit a crime. If you think jailbreaking is a "crime" worthy of someone having to jump countries as their only defense we're screwed.

I don't agree with what he did by taking donations and leaving, but i don't agree with what Sony is doing either.

blahism said,

You do realize Sony is waisting US criminal system time by chasing someone who really didn't commit a crime.
well thats your opinion rather than fact. obviously that isn't the case otherwise I assume that the case would have been thrown out if there was no US law being broken.

Spyder said,
well thats your opinion rather than fact. obviously that isn't the case otherwise I assume that the case would have been thrown out if there was no US law being broken.

Meanwhile, murderers and rapist get off easy. **** our legal system.

Elessar said,

This article puts a HUGE smile on my face. First, because he ran to S. America, which clearly indicates Sony has a great case going for them and he is ****ed. Second, I hope Sony goes after everyone that donated to this now assumed felon. They won't get anything because facts were few and far between at the time of donation, but it should be a lesson to these kids in the future to think before they act.

I applaud Sony for continuing their pursuit of Hotz, and I hope the kid is brought to justice

I hope this little **** gets what he deserves. He should never have released what he did and his fleeing to South America proves his guilt more than anything. I hope Sony finds him down there, removes his sex organ and turns him in a girly-boy for the locals to take turns on.

Elessar said,

Second, I hope Sony goes after everyone that donated to this now assumed felon.

I applaud Sony for continuing their pursuit of Hotz, and I hope the kid is brought to justice

Yeah, sony should sue everyone!!! How dare they donate a dollar or two to this guy! sony should sue them for millions each. There is never any real justice in the world for corporations. And once everyone is sued, the space-time continuum will fold in on itself, and the jail break will cease to exist...so it has been written.

norseman said,
I hope this little **** gets what he deserves. He should never have released what he did and his fleeing to South America proves his guilt more than anything. I hope Sony finds him down there, removes his sex organ and turns him in a girly-boy for the locals to take turns on.
What? That's horrible.

norseman said,

I hope this little **** gets what he deserves. He should never have released what he did and his fleeing to South America proves his guilt more than anything. I hope Sony finds him down there, removes his sex organ and turns him in a girly-boy for the locals to take turns on.

Wow, I've never met anyone who felt so strongly about the DMCA.

What type of inhumane tortures do you think are warranted in other DMCA violations like ripping a DVD to my HTPC.

shakey said,

oh man, you actually donated to this fool... sorry, but hahahahahhahahaha
One fool made a fool of thousands. That's what you get for supporting immature kids who have no respect for the law.


It may come as a surprise to you but most people have no respect for the DMCA. You realize that if you ever attempted to transfer one of your rightfully purchased DVD's to your phone or mp3 player (or any other device in a digital format) you would have been aiding in the circumvention of the DMCA.

Do you consider everyone who bought a DVD decrypting app on the same level as people who donated to geohotz? After all, they are guilty of the exact same thing (which is why said companies must exist outside of the united states).