Google delivers Christmas cheer, complete with stuttering Android devices

The Google team has uploaded their "Happy Holidays" message for the year to YouTube, full of santa topped goodness and happy Android team members. However, despite all the hard work they've done, especially with Ice Cream Sandwich, Android still can't get away from the signature lag that haunts the platform, even in a cheer-filled video.

Users have always complained that Android lagged in certain areas (such as smooth scrolling), and whilst Ice Cream Sandwich claims to fix that, it's still not the case. Reviews around the web of the Galaxy Nexus show that the device still suffers the issues of it's precedecessors. Google even responded by explaining why it was so bad beforehand, how ICS "catches up to iOS" and how Android graphics acceleration actually works.

Techcrunch said in their review of the Galaxy Nexus that whilst some of the problems are fixed, "You’ll also still see a bit of lag in ICS when you do seemingly simple things" and went on to say that "ICS fixes many of Android’s performance issues, but there are plenty of times that you’ll still see stutter." It's great that it's getting better, but it's bewildering as to why the company hasn't been able to get rid of it yet.

However our very own Tim Schiesser disagrees with others on this point in his review of the Galaxy Nexus, saying that Android 4.0 "delivers the smoothest Android experience to date." Maybe it's all down to the person who's holding the device.

Perhaps at this time of the year it's time to put down our differences about Android, iOS and Windows Phone and just be happy we all have smartphones that aren't Windows Mobile based anymore.

Will Google ever be able to make a device with the buttery-smooth feel of iOS or Windows Phone? Some are beginning to wonder if it's actually possible. Enjoy the video below, laden with shameless advertising, happy Googlers and stuttering Android handsets. Merry Christmas!

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If you have an android phone that stutters, check it for Carrier IQ.. I did some testing side by side of identical HTC Evo 4G's, one with Carrier IQ, one without and noticed Carrier IQ causes all hell to break loose on phones, and I'm guessing that's the same for all carriers and models (and probably iPhones also.)

Are people pointing out the bit at the end where the phone is stuttering whilst taking a panoramic shot?
I'd rather the phone stuttered as it was concentrating on taking the multiple photos and stitching it together than concentrating on looking great and being smooth and ****ing up the photo.

Exactly... this is the "stuttering" in the video they refer to... the phone is doing a ton of work to stitch together this panoramic photo... it has nothing to do with the UI smoothness.

The UI in ICS 4.0.3 on Nexus S only stutters if your using a bad animated wallpaper that hogs all the resources... on other animated wallpapers it's smooth as silk just like using a static wallpaper.

Teebor said,
Are people pointing out the bit at the end where the phone is stuttering whilst taking a panoramic shot?
I'd rather the phone stuttered as it was concentrating on taking the multiple photos and stitching it together than concentrating on looking great and being smooth and ****ing up the photo.

Had Galaxy Nexus and the lag wasn't too bad, however the music app is god awful in how it will make a blazing loud noise then shut entire phone off. Had to take battery out each time just to turn phone back on.

Yeah.. humm. humm... people complain about stuttering... yet a lot of them own crappy computer and laptop that takes 20 minutes to boot up and they just shallow it..

Is the "stuttering" people are talking about, when the guy is taking the huge panorama photo? You realize it's taking a photo every second, and stitching it together into one big photo. It's not going to be smooth.

And I've seen my friends iPhone lag while scrolling though contacts.

And dumb topic title. Apparently people are happy with their 700k activations on Android devices per day. Split second lag isnt something people are really worried about. Applications on PCs take a few to load so its something people are used to. Just something for iPhone users to bitch and moan about Android users really. I have a Galaxy Nexus and it has little lag in some 3rd party apps. Other than that, no issues.

Next...

Edited by techbeck, Dec 21 2011, 11:50pm :

techbeck said,
And I've seen my friends iPhone lag while scrolling though contacts.

And dumb topic title. Apparently people are happy with their 700k activations on Android devices per day. Split second lag isnt something people are really worried about. Applications on PCs take a few to load so its something people are used to. Just something for iPhone users to bitch and moan about Android users really. I have a Galaxy Nexus and it has little lag in some 3rd party apps. Other than that, no issues.

Next...

Coming from Owen the title is hardly surprising..

Plus from what Jean-Baptiste Queru who is a Software Engineer with Android Open-Source Project, has said not everything in ICS is hardware rendered yet, some parts of the OS and Apps are still software renderedl, so with newer versions of ICS it will get better and better for smoothing out the stuttering in the UI.

I have the Galaxy Nexus myself and to say there is no stuttering would be a lie, I have used some of the custom roms with Android 4.0.3 and it made a huge difference in the "UI Stuttering", it is just about all gone now, so I think when 4.0.3 starts rolling out people will be much happier with how smooth it will be.

I've had a couple Android phones and i don't understand what this lag people are talking about. Never experienced it except on heavy websites (same websites where my computer would lag = bad programmed).

Really getting sick of this:

Samsung/HTC launch a phone: Find every excuse to why this phone will fail.

Apple launch a phone: Find every excuse to why this phone will succeed.

sam232 said,
Really getting sick of this:

Samsung/HTC launch a phone: Find every excuse to why this phone will fail.

Apple launch a phone: Find every excuse to why this phone will succeed.

You haven't been here long have you (I already looked at your profile, and you've been here two months)? Neowin's resident Apple-haters pick apart every iPhone release and constantly tell us why it simply doesn't stack up, and why it is doomed. Hell, you weren't even a member of this site the last time a new iPhone model was released!

roadwarrior said,

You haven't been here long have you (I already looked at your profile, and you've been here two months)? ;

Um that doesn't mean I haven't been visiting Neowin before that. Ive been visiting Neowin on and off since 2004 and daily since 2010. I suggest you Google what a "lurker" is. I only registered out of frustration at the level of Apple fanaticism around here to try and counter a lot of the lies and misinformation Apple fanboys spread about other smartphones.

side note: I liked your post by mistake, so -1 to the likes.

sam232 said,

Um that doesn't mean I haven't been visiting Neowin before that. Ive been visiting Neowin on and off since 2004 and daily since 2010. I suggest you Google what a "lurker" is. I only registered out of frustration at the level of Apple fanaticism around here to try and counter a lot of the lies and misinformation Apple fanboys spread about other smartphones.

side note: I liked your post by mistake, so -1 to the likes.

The Apple fanboys around here are greatly outnumbered by the Anti-Apple people. If you believe otherwise, you are either being willfully ignorant or only reading what you WANT to read. And despite what you and others around here might think, I don't even own any Apple products at the moment, although I have in the past (and likely will again). I just get annoyed at people around here who like twisting the truth, no matter what side of an argument they are on.

Oh, and I know what a lurker is. Hell, I was using the internet (and before that, other types of online services, all the way back to running a BBS on my Amiga and logging onto one on my C64) long before some of the people on here were even born.

roadwarrior said,

The Apple fanboys around here are greatly outnumbered by the Anti-Apple people.

Being Anti-Apple means nothing really, its like saying you are Anti AIDS or something. Any truly rational person wouldn't put up with Apple's behavior and BS it pushes on us. If Apple were a good corporate citizen and didn't push a load of BS on the public (unproportional to other corporations) then yes there would be something wrong with you if you were Anti-Apple.

"Anti-Apple fanboy" is a phrase coined by Apple fanboys to give the illusion that being Anti-Apple is being irrational.

roadwarrior said,

Hell, I was using the internet (and before that, other types of online services, all the way back to running a BBS on my Amiga and logging onto one on my C64) long before some of the people on here were even born..

OH and I was shoveling coal and eating raw turnip before all of you were born blah blah blah.

needmorecoffee said,
So the guy at the beginning of the video doesn't even use his android phone to listen to music?? If he was he'd know the phone was ringing!

He was listening to Google Music through Google Chrome.

needmorecoffee said,
So the guy at the beginning of the video doesn't even use his android phone to listen to music?? If he was he'd know the phone was ringing!

Why would he? He is at a desktop.

I don't get it. I've used some iOS devices and they do lag at times. I have an iPod Touch 3G with iOS 4 and it lags like crazy at time. My blackberry makes me want to throw it out the window. A little stutter here and there is not a make/break for me. All phones still occasionally stutter.

ARchamps said,
I don't get it. I've used some iOS devices and they do lag at times. I have an iPod Touch 3G with iOS 4 and it lags like crazy at time. My blackberry makes me want to throw it out the window. A little stutter here and there is not a make/break for me. All phones still occasionally stutter.

Then you should try an android device.

With android the premise is similar, just that they are occasionally smooth. They lag most of the time, and doing the simplest of things.

Just to be fair, I just recently used an Android Tab with honeycomb 3.2, and it had a dual core 1.2 GHz cpu with 1 GB of ram, and it was pretty smooth. In fact, it only stuttered on the web browser, facebook, mainly apps. The GUI was pretty smooth.

So to each his own.

Mr.Ed

Mr.ed said,

Then you should try an android device.

With android the premise is similar, just that they are occasionally smooth. They lag most of the time, and doing the simplest of things.

Just to be fair, I just recently used an Android Tab with honeycomb 3.2, and it had a dual core 1.2 GHz cpu with 1 GB of ram, and it was pretty smooth. In fact, it only stuttered on the web browser, facebook, mainly apps. The GUI was pretty smooth.

So to each his own.

Mr.Ed

Yup! That's the plan. I'm getting the Galaxy Nexus in Jan

ARchamps said,

Yup! That's the plan. I'm getting the Galaxy Nexus in Jan

The Galaxy Nexus is a beautifull phone. I would really like to see the performance of Android on that hardware, i mean, in person.

And you know, after trying that tablet, im really itching for an Android Tab, be it Samsung or Motorola, even Acer... they are really fine.

Also, i want to hack mine into oblivion... (Because we all know thats the best use for Android... right?)

Mr.Ed

Jaybonaut said,
Wow, I can't believe they put stutter in an ad - that's just terrible!

I've seen it in one of the HTC Sensation ads in the UK... I lol'd heartily and hugged my windows phone (okay, maybe that last part was exaggerated )

However our very own Tim Scheisser disagrees with others on this point in his review of the Galaxy Nexus, saying that Android 4.0 "delivers the smoothest Android experience to date."

So how is disagreeing exactly? You said most reviews say a lot of the stuttering and lagging have been fixed but it's not entirely gone and can still be seen in plenty of places, but it's an improvement right? Yea so the smoothest Android experience to date...

Just saying

Leonick said,

So how is disagreeing exactly? You said most reviews say a lot of the stuttering and lagging have been fixed but it's not entirely gone and can still be seen in plenty of places, but it's an improvement right? Yea so the smoothest Android experience to date...

Just saying


For some reason the remainder of his quote was omitted where he says "there's no lag"