Google renews search agreement with Firefox

The team at Mozilla is likely breathing easier today. The company behind the free and popular Firefox web browser announced today that it had secured a new three year agreement with Google. The new arrangement will allow Google to remain the default search engine for Firefox during that time period. The financial specfics of the new deal were not revealed.

The previous agreement between Google and Mozilla ended in late November. In early December, the two companies were in negotiations for trying to extend the search engine deal. Mozilla was heavily reliant on Google's search engine for its money. It admitted earlier this year that it gets 84 percent of its revenues via royalties from its older search agreement with Google.

Indeed, the company launched a new donation page on its web site while the talks with Google were taking place, asking people to chip in to support the development of the free Firefox web browser.

Google, of course, has its own Chrome web browser which, according to one source, has now overtaken Firefox as the world's second most popular browser (behind Microsoft's Internet Explorer).

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Glad to know firefox will be stable atleast next 3years, getting sick of hate news/rumours everywhere against FF.

Its about time. I was wondering why the nightly builds kept sending me through Yahoo! instead. Need a way to change the default search engine on the home page.

Wombatt said,
Thats great news! Dont think I could have dealt with something like Bing!

It's about the default search engine... you could always switch it back to Google with just 2 mouse clicks.

Wombatt said,
Thats great news! Dont think I could have dealt with something like Bing!

Yeah, it's too hard to switch the default search engine, and we gotta keep that Google market share up as best as we can right?

People say MS pays for Bing market share but then what is this deal if not the same in the end?

GP007 said,
People say MS pays for Bing market share but then what is this deal if not the same in the end?

Mozilla originally used Google as the default search engine before they were paid to do so hence it's merely logical continuation of it.

MiukuMac said,

Mozilla originally used Google as the default search engine before they were paid to do so hence it's merely logical continuation of it.

My point still stands, they're paying to have it be the default, it doesn't matter if mozilla used it from the get go, it's the same sorta "search deal" in the end.

GP007 said,

My point still stands, they're paying to have it be the default, it doesn't matter if mozilla used it from the get go, it's the same sorta "search deal" in the end.


If they didn't MS would so what is your point?

recursive said,

If they didn't MS would so what is your point?

That it's the same thing in the end, what don't you understand? The same old double standard seems to be at work as ever. I just pointed out how this deal is the same as what MS does, that's all. Yet at the end of the day the two are viewed somehow different to some people I guess.

Opensource is like communism, things slowly get done through committees and arrive at horrible quality. Linux and Firefox is an example of that. Unless Mozilla find a new way of making money, relying on Google for revenue won't keep the top engineers around very long.Opera should take over Mozilla and remove their horrible gecko rendering engine and replace it with Presto.

Edited by flexkeyboard, Dec 20 2011, 10:52pm :

flexkeyboard said,
Opensource is like communism

And proprietary is like fascism.. Blah blah blah.. Give me a break.
flexkeyboard said,

things slowly get done through committees and arrive at horrible quality. Linux and Firefox is an example of that.

Wait.. does that mean that Vista was open source then? Dang, I didn't know that.
flexkeyboard said,

Unless Mozilla find a new way of making money, relying on Google for revenue won't keep the top engineers around very long.

Some people do coding because they enjoy it. Hence, why so much FOSS exists. I think you need to crawl back into your capitalist, proprietary cave, where no one ever does anything without monetary gain involved.
flexkeyboard said,

Opera should take over Mozilla and remove their horrible gecko rendering engine and replace it with Presto.

Gecko works fine for me. Perhaps your computer sucks.

flexkeyboard said,
Opensource is like communism, things slowly get done through committees and arrive at horrible quality. Linux and Firefox is an example of that.

Open Source is one of the reasons you're able to post on this site, not to mention it powers some of the largest sites in the world, including Google, Youtube, Yahoo and millions upon millions of websites and services across the globe.

Do I need to go on?

But let's just face it, you're a) talking out of your ass b) trolling.

And you fail, miserably.

flexkeyboard said,
Opensource is like communism, things slowly get done through committees and arrive at horrible quality. Linux and Firefox is an example of that. Unless Mozilla find a new way of making money, relying on Google for revenue won't keep the top engineers around very long.Opera should take over Mozilla and remove their horrible gecko rendering engine and replace it with Presto.
Obvious Opera fanboy is obvious.
If Firefox is so bad, why is it that Firefox has over 10x the market share of Opera?

If open source is so slow, can you explain why Google Chrome (and Firefox) is so far ahead of Opera? The obviously superior (according to you) closed source Opera is inferior to Chrome, an open source browser.

On top of that, this website (and many, perhaps most others) runs on an open source OS, using open source web-server software, using open source database software. If you hate open source so much, GTFO the internet.

Wolfbane said,
Obvious Opera fanboy is obvious.
If Firefox is so bad, why is it that Firefox has over 10x the market share of Opera?

If open source is so slow, can you explain why Google Chrome (and Firefox) is so far ahead of Opera? The obviously superior (according to you) closed source Opera is inferior to Chrome, an open source browser.

On top of that, this website (and many, perhaps most others) runs on an open source OS, using open source web-server software, using open source database software. If you hate open source so much, GTFO the internet.

You can't always go by popularity on how good something is...McDonald's has horrible burgers, yet they are very popular. Opera doesn't advertise enough..Though I wouldn't say that Opera is inferior to Chrome. That is an opinion, not fact..You're doing the same thing that they were doing..

And Firefox should stick with Gecko..We need competition, not companies buying everyone up.

Anyways..
But as others have said, OOS has advantages and disadvantages...But without OOS, the internet, and computers would be a lot different..You can't have the internet and not have the 'communist' software not running it..

Not surprised that Google renewed it..Would have been stupid not to...If I'm not mistaken, they even give money to Opera to be the default browser, and they only have something like 1.5% marketshare on desktops (Higher on mobile) lol

Wolfbane said,
Obvious Opera fanboy is obvious.
If Firefox is so bad, why is it that Firefox has over 10x the market share of Opera?

So does that mean IE9 is better than Firefox then?

On top of that, this website (and many, perhaps most others) runs on an open source OS, using open source web-server software, using open source database software. If you hate open source so much, GTFO the internet.

That doesn't prove anything. A proprietary server OS, webserver and database software need a lot of money. By using open source, they are cutting back costs. Also, why isn't this website's CMS opensource? If you're so in love with opensource then GTFO the biggest websites of the web, including Google, because they all use proprietary scripts.

Anooxy said,

So does that mean IE9 is better than Firefox then?

That doesn't prove anything. A proprietary server OS, webserver and database software need a lot of money. By using open source, they are cutting back costs. Also, why isn't this website's CMS opensource? If you're so in love with opensource then GTFO the biggest websites of the web, including Google, because they all use proprietary scripts.

IE is the most used browser because it's the default on the most used (by far) OS. Firefox doesn't have that advantage, yet it's still the 2nd or 3rd most popular (depending on where you get your stats).

Where did I say that I was in love with open source? I said that open source is not bad, and somehow you think not hating open source == loving open source?

As for only using open source to cut back costs, I challenge you to find me a better proprietary webserver than Apache, a better proprietary database software than MySQL, and a better proprietary server OS than Redhat Enterprise (BTW Redhat is both OSS and proprietary).

_Heracles said,

Firefox needs to feel the burn some more.

Why? Has it offended you somehow?

It would be pretty dumb NOT to sign an agreement, given that, browser allegience aside, Firefox still has >20% of the market, and even Google can't afford to miss out on losing a fifth of their potential market.

_Heracles said,

Firefox needs to feel the burn some more.

Why does a charity need to "feel the burn"? A lot of other charities depend on the Mozilla Foundation's donations.

Meph said,

Why does a charity need to "feel the burn"? A lot of other charities depend on the Mozilla Foundation's donations.

How can Mozilla be free from Google's influence if it is dependent on Google?

For all intensive purposes it is safe to call Firefox Google Firefox.

_Heracles said,

How can Mozilla be free from Google's influence if it is dependent on Google?

For all intensive purposes it is safe to call Firefox Google Firefox.


If you follow the Mozilla blogosphere, you'll see that all they do is write about how Google are harming the Web.