Huge multi-monitor enhancements coming in Windows 8

A post briefly appeared on the Building Windows 8 blog that outlined some of the new multiple monitor features that will be coming in Windows 8. We're not fully sure why the article is not available at the time of writing (at this link), but we luckily managed to pull a copy and tell you what's coming for multi-monitor users in Windows 8.

As is a common feature Microsoft has opened the article with some statistics on multi-monitor users in Windows. According to their data, 85.32% of desktop and 95.64% of laptop users use just one monitor, leaving 14.68% and 4.36% using at least two monitors respectively. Microsoft recognizes the benefits of using two or more monitors for multitasking and they will be bringing a number of cool features to Windows 8 that will enhance using multiple monitors.

For improved wallpaper support Microsoft is adding a few new features. Firstly, multi-monitor users will be able to select different desktop backgrounds for each of their monitors, and where needed and configured (for example with different monitor sizes/resolutions or even orientation) Windows will shuffle through images that it thinks are most suited to the monitor set-up. Also, you'll be able to set a specific option that spans wallpapers across multiple monitors for cool effects.

Normally these desktop background features have only been available with third-party software, so it's great to see that Microsoft are going to efforts to improve the out-of-box experience.

Another major improvement that is coming is the multi-monitor taskbar that many users have complained about the lack of in Windows 7. In Windows 8, users will have the option to show the taskbar on secondary monitors, and then there will be options to choose how the application icons are shown on these taskbars. By default the app buttons will be shown on both taskbars, but you can set it to show app buttons only on the taskbar belonging to the monitor where the application is open.

Again these features have been limited to third-party software in the past, but due to users heavily requesting them they will be present in Windows 8.

Microsoft has also been working on improving the way the Metro Start Screen and apps are displayed on multi-monitor set-ups, and starting with the Release Preview there will be new ways to display Metro items across two or more monitors. The Windows 8 team reports that while previously the Start screen and charms were only available on the one monitor, improvements will be made that will activate the gesture corners on all monitors.

This means that you will be able to show the Start screen and WinRT apps on whichever monitor you choose depending on what monitor you mouse to the bottom-left in. You'll also be able to bring up charms and the app switcher on any of your monitors, again depending on where you activate the gesture corners.

Finally Microsoft are improving the way the corners are activated, as with multiple monitors it can be extremely hard to get the corners to work without mousing to the next monitor. There will be a larger area that you can mouse to activate the Metro elements, and these will not interfere with moving between monitors.

The Windows 8 team close by saying how they have "lots of ideas for how [they] could do even more with Metro style apps on multiple monitors", including the possibility of multi-monitor APIs. While we wait for any more improvements, most of the features listed above will be coming with the Release Preview.

Update: Here's the video that accompanied the article and we would like to point out that this is 8331.0.fbl_uex.120425 (thanks for the tip W4Live!).

Images courtesy of Building Windows 8

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I thought Windows-8 was oriented for for the touch-n-scratch type of users. Now, MS is wanting us to buy more than one touch-screen? If the multiple-monitor support is not oriented for touch screens, where are the rest of the features for keyboard-centric users?

It doesn't if you don't want it too? The start screen is still a menu that opens and closes on your command, and Metro programs are optional.

~Johnny said,
It doesn't if you don't want it too? The start screen is still a menu that opens and closes on your command, and Metro programs are optional.

When I open the start menu, it takes up the entire screen. I don't like it. I'm not using a tablet.

I have just one simple request. When I bought my HP PC it came with a program called "Wallpaper Picture Position Enabler" which allowed "Stretch to Fill" as an option for the wallpaper background position. That doesn't work anymore on Windows 8, but it was my favored setting. I would want them to add this officially to the OS. --- Or, they could put in more flexible controls for determining how the wallpaper shows ,whichever .

The more I look at screenshots of Windows 8 the more I think they should've dumped Aero in favor of how Office 15 and Visual Studio 11 will look (no transparency, solid Metro like style). I think the "desktop" mode would've blended much better than with this transparent Aero that is the exact opposite of Metro...

Obry said,
The more I look at screenshots of Windows 8 the more I think they should've dumped Aero in favor of how Office 15 and Visual Studio 11 will look (no transparency, solid Metro like style). I think the "desktop" mode would've blended much better than with this transparent Aero that is the exact opposite of Metro...

Therein is a big problem MS faces. By obsessing with the Metro UI, they have abandoned the laptop/desktop market for which Aero works very well.

The multi-monitor work, and other new additions like inherent 3D support are a part of the new WDDM/WDM specification for Windows 8, and has been available in whitepapers for months now.

If you are curious about the video technology changes, head over to Microsoft and search for WDDM and Windows 8.

There are some nice evolution features of the WDM/WDDM technologies, and if you haven't ever looked up WDDM/WDM, it would be a good time to see why the technology introduced in Vista and updated in Windows 7 is ahead of what other OS technologies provide like RAM virtualization, new DMA GPU technologies, new BUS transfer and memory mapping technologies that are going on under the hood to the most important which is the ability to preemptively multi-task GPU threads at the NT kernel level. (Which is why Crysis in a Window doesn't grind the Aero composer to a halt and other GP-GPU operations in other applications don't lock up the GPU and depend on applications to properly yield GPU time..)

thank goodness, it has always driven me crazy not having my apps on my second screen not minimize to it's own taskbar. My second screen is my TV, so it's a real hassle when something minimizes back to my PC monitor that is off and I am across the room on the couch.

Win8 just keeps getting better. Now I just have to get used to metro instead of the start menu (which I barely use other than pinning few programs for quick access, which will just be tiles instead on metro).

tsh2000 said,
Have they fixed the blank 2nd monitor lock screen problem from Vista/7 yet?

Why is that a problem? You don't need the lock screen copied to other monitors.

And how, might I ask, does it do that when the screen is still powered on?

Dot Matrix said,

It saves power not using other monitors.

tsh2000 said,
And how, might I ask, does it do that when the screen is still powered on?

Right now, when I lock my Windows 7 machine, it shuts off the side monitors. They're not only blank, but get put in standby mode as well.

You don't need the other monitors when you're up and away from your machine, and it's locked.

Dot Matrix said,

Right now, when I lock my Windows 7 machine, it shuts off the side monitors. They're not only blank, but get put in standby mode as well.

You don't need the other monitors when you're up and away from your machine, and it's locked.

Agree with your last point, having something on all your screens when the PC is locked is the most pointless request ever.

I think the monitors going to stand by is something unique to you though, or maybe your own personal power settings. On my machine when I lock the screen, my second monitor just goes black. It doesn't go to stand by.

TCLN Ryster said,

On my machine when I lock the screen, my second monitor just goes black. It doesn't go to stand by.

Yeah same. You can move your cursor over to the other monitor.

"There will be a larger area that you can mouse to activate the Metro elements, and these will not interfere with moving between monitors."

This is a huge improvement: right now I cannot use my Tablet pen to activate any of the menus.

Nice enhancements. Good to see that it's still being polished and refined. I think with such a paradigm shift from Win7, this one has to be able to evolve more. Almost makes me want two monitors...

Honestly... they are such simple features and I wondered why they were not included in Windows 7. But I am glad that they are here now.
Keep up the good work Windows 8 team!

este said,
Honestly... they are such simple features and I wondered why they were not included in Windows 7. But I am glad that they are here now.
Keep up the good work Windows 8 team!

Well there really isn't a reason to keep it off Win7... I would hope they add this to Win7 with SP2 or some sorta addon you need to download from Microsoft to enable it.

sava700 said,

Well there really isn't a reason to keep it off Win7... I would hope they add this to Win7 with SP2 or some sorta addon you need to download from Microsoft to enable it.

Here's a reason: it takes away an advantage Win8 holds.
Anything that gets people away from Windows 7 ASAP is ideal for MS. More Win8 sales, and most importantly it will hopefully get them using Metro.

And usage of Metro rather then the desktop has to be an absolute paramount goal for MS because every Metro app sale means more money going to them. On the desktop they don't get a piece of every sale.

Profit > Consumer convenience or preference.

sava700 said,

Well there really isn't a reason to keep it off Win7... I would hope they add this to Win7 with SP2 or some sorta addon you need to download from Microsoft to enable it.


And there really isn't a reason to add it to Win7. It's not security related, and it doesn't add support for a new standard. You have to have something held back to make people want to upgrade.

sava700 said,

Well there really isn't a reason to keep it off Win7... I would hope they add this to Win7 with SP2 or some sorta addon you need to download from Microsoft to enable it.

Wow, how self-entitled are you. You bought the Windows 7 product with it's documented feature set, Microsoft do not owe you anything. Microsoft are not a charity.

If they added every new feature they developed to all their older versions for free, they'd never sell any copies of the new version and they'd go out of business. I realise this may be shocking to you, but businesses exist to make money.

I am pretty sure most of that is in CP already... i know that my wallpapers size according to orientation, and screen size, i have a 3 monitor setup, 2 landscape "24, and one portrait "21 screen, with my taskbar running across all 3 monitors, and the taskbar only displays running apps / windows on the taskbar of the monitor that the app / window is displayed on. Very much like ultramon... its awesome!

mine does.... that was one of the first things i noticed when i finished setting up Win8 CP .... and set my own wallpapers folder... then also had the option to setup the taskbar settings.... ill be happy to screenshot for u!

Sulphy said,
mine does.... that was one of the first things i noticed when i finished setting up Win8 CP .... and set my own wallpapers folder... then also had the option to setup the taskbar settings.... ill be happy to screenshot for u!

charms bar and start screen, not the taskbar...

xpclient said,
Good for people who actually upgrade to Windows 8 and who have multiple monitors: a very small combination.

Not really, I'm not touching Win8 won my desktop. It's used exclusively via a mouse/keyboard and I'm pretty comfortable with feeling Win8 is a dramatic downgrade in that respect.

But I commonly connect my laptop to a secondary monitor, and I could see being swayed to use Win8 on a convertible laptop.

You can turn on the independent second monitor taskbar in the consumer preview - and you also set independent wallpapers in the same!

I'm surprised nobody else mentioned/noticed this..

I wonder if they've done anything to improve the way games always launch on what is set as the primary monitor. I have a HDTV connected that I want to use for gaming, but everytime I do I first have to Win+P to select the other display. Speaking of that shortcut, I wonder if they've done anything to improve that as the displays weren't easy to identify there.

They still need to do something about that tiny activation area for the start menu and the fact that you can't click the popup that comes up when you hover your mouse there. It just goes against the whole window thumbnails thing that Win 7 had for apps.

Finally!

I spoke to Jim Allchin about this back in 2007 and at the time it was said that normal users would be too confused about having an "active" taskbar on two or more screens, 5 years later it will finally become a reality. The Windows 7 taskbar spanning is pretty lame, and that's why I use Ultramon.

Good move by Microsoft

Neobond said,
Finally!

I spoke to Jim Allchin about this back in 2007 and at the time it was said that normal users would be too confused about having an "active" taskbar on two or more screens, 5 years later it will finally become a reality. The Windows 7 taskbar spanning is pretty lame, and that's why I use Ultramon.

Good move by Microsoft


He failed to realize that having more than one monitor is definitely not normal.

"Microsoft has also been working on improving the way the Metro Start Screen and apps are displayed on multi-monitor set-ups, and starting with the Release Preview there will be new ways to display Metro items across two or more monitors."

I hope this means I can run two WinRT apps each on different monitor. I have 4 year old notebook with 1280 x 800 px so I cant run two apps on one monitor. Having two monitors could be a workaround as my external monitor is 1280 x 1024 px (it sucks I know).

I think once you hit the 6x6 target, the app switching menu appears. From the video, iIf you move left and down away for the 6 vertical pixels, then you the mouse cursor slips into the left screen.

I think, once the app switching menu is activated, that AS LONG AS the mouse cursor is still within the menu, then it can not go to the next screen even if you move hard left.

I have a tendency to hit hard top-left corner and drag down hard-left. If I do this on the new implementation, my cursor will still slip to the screen on the left because I went outside of 6 pixels.

So, I could seriously set up a second monitor for all the Metro/touch stuff, and any desktop apps will be launched to the monitor in that mode?

If so, that's dramatically increases the appeal.

smot said,
So, I could seriously set up a second monitor for all the Metro/touch stuff, and any desktop apps will be launched to the monitor in that mode?

If so, that's dramatically increases the appeal.

If I understand correctly apps are launched to whichever monitor you launch them from, so you could do this by just using the start screen (or the taskbar etc.) on your "desktop" monitor when you wanted to launch a desktop app, and using the start screen on your "Metro" monitor when you wanted to launch a Metro style app. I don't think there's a way to set a "rule" like "desktop apps will always go to monitor A, Metro style apps will always go to monitor B", it just depends on how you launch them.

smot said,
So, I could seriously set up a second monitor for all the Metro/touch stuff, and any desktop apps will be launched to the monitor in that mode?

If so, that's dramatically increases the appeal.

Nope, Metro apps open in the monitor their initially opened on. If you wish to change the monitor, you'll have to do it after the fact for each application.

Its a very nice improvement

Multi monitor always had issues with W7 regarding snapping items to the right or left using 3 displays

Brian Miller said,
How about including all the features that Ultramon has had for the last 10 years?
http://www.realtimesoft.com/ultramon/

- efficiently move windows and maximize windows across the desktop
Never needed or see a point in this feature across all displays but snap in has been in 7 since beta

- manage more applications with the Smart Taskbar
Its there in Windows 8 now

- control application positioning with UltraMon Shortcuts
Im guessing this is to auto launch a window in the same position it was in? With W7 and snapins its not hard and has less error

- multi-monitor support for desktop wallpapers and screen savers
Option is there in WIndows 8, unless you mean for it to auto join it together? there is website which have pre-done 2-3 display wallpapers. Also Screensavers will always display accross all displays but focus on the primary one (prob screen saver dependant but still) the point of it however is to display when your not there so who sees it?

- mirror your main monitor to secondary monitors for a presentation
Hasnt this been there since XP?

Brian Miller said,
How about including all the features that Ultramon has had for the last 10 years?
http://www.realtimesoft.com/ultramon/
How about buying Ultramon rather than putting them out of business by doing everything they're doing and charging for? Microsoft shouldn't be in the business of destroying ecosystem companies.

ahinson said,
How about buying Ultramon rather than putting them out of business by doing everything they're doing and charging for? Microsoft shouldn't be in the business of destroying ecosystem companies.

Improving Windows is always welcome, we shouldn't refuse to accept any progress for fear it may prevent the sales of other products.
If we took that stance we would never implement anything new, because there is almost always software that duplicates the new functionality.

Moreover, Microsoft isn't in this for charity. Drawing sales away from Ultramon is a GOOD thing for them.
For consumers, this merely provides Ultramon more incentive to improve their software and make it more capable. Which certainly isn't a bad thing.

Owen W said,
Meh. Doesn't fix Metro

No but it's a start. AND this is HUGE precedent setting event in MS terms.

They heard you, folks.

Let's see if they can fix the invisible GUI issue for desktop users too...

bogas04 said,

fix your perception that it's broken.

So... if someone tells you something is good, you automatically agree with them and assume the problem is your perception?

That is insane. If I drive a car into your house and tell you that it looks better like that, I assume you're going to say agree with me. After all, your perception MUST be wrong. I told you it's better, I drove it in, therefore it must be better right?

Crazy as it may seem Metro probably isn't the singe greatest innovation in the history of UI design and may not ideally meet everyones needs perfectly.
This is why people tend to like options, so they can configure things to suit their own tastes.

This is also why there is such a thing as OSX and Linux, because Windows doesn't ideally suit everyone.

This is also why there are desktops, laptops, tablets etc. Because one solution isn't ideal for everyone.

I could go on, but I imagine you get the point.

Disliking Metro or any other UI design decision doesn't make someone wrong, it means they have a difference of opinion and that UI is ill suited to them.
It would undoubtedly be easier if everyone used their computers in the same way and had the same opinions about everything, but alas this isn't the case and almost certainly never will be.

RandPC said

So... if someone tells you something is good, you automatically agree with them and assume the problem is your perception?

That is insane. If I drive a car into your house and tell you that it looks better like that, I assume you're going to say agree with me. After all, your perception MUST be wrong. I told you it's better, I drove it in, therefore it must be better right?

Crazy as it may seem Metro probably isn't the singe greatest innovation in the history of UI design and may not ideally meet everyones needs perfectly.
This is why people tend to like options, so they can configure things to suit their own tastes.

This is also why there is such a thing as OSX and Linux, because Windows doesn't ideally suit everyone.

This is also why there are desktops, laptops, tablets etc. Because one solution isn't ideal for everyone.

I could go on, but I imagine you get the point.

Disliking Metro or any other UI design decision doesn't make someone wrong, it means they have a difference of opinion and that UI is ill suited to them.
It would undoubtedly be easier if everyone used their computers in the same way and had the same opinions about everything, but alas this isn't the case and almost certainly never will be.

No , i sat and used Metro for months , understood it , saw it's potential , and then liked it. It is no different than the previous methodology, now when you hit windows key you get similar menu where you can search your stuff, and now even sort it for your own ease , see some live tiles / information about new mail etc , and then get back to desktop. In W7 you can only search and see a list of hotlinks. Anyways , it may be anything , but broken. He didn't say he disliked it , he said it is not yet fixed.

excalpius said,

No but it's a start. AND this is HUGE precedent setting event in MS terms.

They heard you, folks.

Let's see if they can fix the invisible GUI issue for desktop users too...

Or, the product is still in beta and these improvements to features they ALWAYS stated were unfinished would have happened anyway.

It looks like the app switch menu has 6 previous apps. On my laptop, I can only see 4 at a time. Is this list dependent on vertical resolution?

KevinN206 said,
It looks like the app switch menu has 6 previous apps. On my laptop, I can only see 4 at a time. Is this list dependent on vertical resolution?

In the video you can see one of the monitors he is using appears to have room for more than 6 (around 10?) so I guess the answer is yes.

OK nearly perfect Microsoft how about a way to span the metro "start screen" whatever you call it across more than one monitor and the login/lock screen image, pretty please then it will be perfect!

Sylar0 said,
OK nearly perfect Microsoft how about a way to span the metro "start screen" whatever you call it across more than one monitor and the login/lock screen image, pretty please then it will be perfect!

Why would you want the start screen spanning two monitors? That would just be a mess, especially if you had different sized monitors as alot of people do.

Some people already moan that the "start menu" is full screen, don't give them more moaning ammunition by making it span all their monitors when all they want to do is launch an app lol.

Other changes I noticed from the video:

It looks like the charms and Start/last app previews come up much quicker now, no slow animations like in the CP. Also a very welcome change especially for the charms.

Also, the preview thumbnails in the corners on the left are smaller now, and only become full-size when you bring up the switcher. At first I thought maybe that was addressing the complaints from people who were confused when they tried to move to click on the thumbnail instead of the corner and it disappeared, but that doesn't seem to be the case - while it happens too quick in the video for me to tell for sure, it looks like the thumbnails still fade out while your mouse pointer is still on them. I guess they just think a smaller button is less "tempting"?

contextfree said,
Other changes I noticed from the video:

It looks like the charms and Start/last app previews come up much quicker now, no slow animations like in the CP. Also a very welcome change especially for the charms.

Yes! Even the start screen seems to open up quicker!

This will be the only reason I will upgrade to Windows 8 early on. I have dual monitors and everything works right out of the box on a fresh install of the Consumer Preview.

"also, it would appear that now the task-switcher on the left hand side shows the titles of the apps also. "

I noticed that too, very welcome change as the switcher was kind of useless without them - it sometimes took so long to scan the thumbnail list for the app you wanted that it was faster to just go to Start and click on the tile.

in addition to the new multi-monitor improvements, the back/forth buttons are more metro-ey, and so are all the other buttons and menus also, it would appear that now the task-switcher on the left hand side shows the titles of the apps also.

Matthew_Thepc said,
in addition to the new multi-monitor improvements, the back/forth buttons are more metro-ey, and so are all the other buttons and menus also, it would appear that now the task-switcher on the left hand side shows the titles of the apps also.

It should cos you are running one of with two monitors and not two pcs

HoochieMamma said,
Have a feature that turns on Metro ONLY when it detects a touch screen and we will be set!

This comment proves you don't give a darn about what this post is about and are hating metro coz others do too.

bogas04 said,

This comment proves you don't give a darn about what this post is about and are hating metro coz others do too.

Yes, of course I hate Metro just "coz others do too" you hit the nail right on the head with that one. <snipped>

/s

Back on planet earth, this is a very needed feature for people who use multi-monitor setups.

Edited by Calum, May 16 2012, 9:30am :

bogas04 said,

This comment proves you don't give a darn about what this post is about and are hating metro coz others do too.

No, it proves he is thinking out of the box. The BEST way to address the invisible GUI controls/Metro issue would be via the Ease of User/Accessibility controls.

And a VERY easy way to integrate that would be as HoochieMamma says, re: "If single Touchscreen detected, master controls invisible by default. If more than one monitor connected OR no touchscreen detected, then master controls are visible by default."

That would make a HUGE difference to the general public/techno-illiterate home and business legacy Windows users....you know, the 90%+.

excalpius said,

No, it proves he is thinking out of the box.

Apparently, so out of box that the topic was forgotten and some other issue was raised irrelevantly. Perhaps later on the words "Multi Monitor" came up in his post and which still don't exist in your post. So very out of box.

excalpius said,

And a VERY easy way to integrate that would be as HoochieMamma says, re: "If single Touchscreen detected, master controls invisible by default. If more than one monitor connected OR no touchscreen detected, then master controls are visible by default."

That doesn't make any sense - whether the controls being "undiscoverable" is a problem is independent of whether you're using mouse or touch (or both). There really isn't much difference between "swipe from edge" and "mouse to / swing around corner" in that regard - both are using intrinsic affordances of the input method rather than visible controls. If discoverability is a problem in one case it's equally a problem in the other case.

Edited by contextfree, May 16 2012, 5:21am :

contextfree said,

That doesn't make any sense - whether the controls being "undiscoverable" is a problem is independent of whether you're using mouse or touch (or both). There really isn't much difference between "swipe from edge" and "mouse to / swing around corner" in that regard - both are using intrinsic affordances of the input method rather than visible controls. If discoverability is a problem in one case it's equally a problem in the other case.

Indeed, and lets not forget the "Quickstart" tutorial that all new users will be shown that nobody has yet seen. This should be all the discoverability the average human with an IQ greater than 10 should need.

HoochieMamma said,

Yes, of course I hate Metro just "coz others do too" you hit the nail right on the head with that one. <snipped>

/s

Back on planet earth, this is a very needed feature for people who use multi-monitor setups.

Metro works great on multi monitor, what are you talking about ?

All these options added for a defunct desktop. Where is the multi screen metro support in applications. hmm, thats the way Microsoft want to take us right?

sagum said,
All these options added for a defunct desktop. Where is the multi screen metro support in applications. hmm, thats the way Microsoft want to take us right?

Read the article: "The Windows 8 team close by saying how they have "lots of ideas for how [they] could do even more with Metro style apps on multiple monitors", including the possibility of multi-monitor APIs. While we wait for any more improvements, most of the features listed above will be coming with the Release Preview."

sagum said,
All these options added for a defunct desktop. Where is the multi screen metro support in applications. hmm, thats the way Microsoft want to take us right?

It's almost as if: http://blogs.msdn.com/b/b8/arc...-style-and-the-desktop.aspx

In this light, the role of the Windows desktop is clear. It powers the hundreds of thousands of existing apps that people rely on today, a vast array of business software, and provides a level of precision and control that is essential for certain tasks. The things that people do today on PCs don't suddenly go away just because there are new Metro style apps. The mechanisms that people rely on today (mice, physical keyboards, trackpads) don't suddenly become less useful or “bad” just because touch is also provided as a first-class option. These tools are quite often the most ergonomic, fast, and powerful ways of getting many things done.

Which brings us back to the improvements we're making to the desktop experience: we believe in the Windows desktop. It powers the experiences today that make a Windows 7 PC the most popular device in the world. So, even if we believe that over time many scenarios will be well-served by Metro style apps, for the foreseeable future, the desktop is going to continue to play a key role in many people's lives. So we are going to improve it. We're having a good dialog about what folks might think about our design choices but also wanted to put these choices in a broader context of the unmatched utility of the desktop.

They have almost everything I want. The last thing they need is a button on the upper right hand corner of windows (to the left of minimize, restore, close) that enables you to "send" windows to other monitors, even if the application is maximized. This feature is available via 3rd party tools such as Ultramon and is hands down the most frequently used feature that I use when dealing with multi-monitor computers. I have multiple monitors on my home and work computers and would never dream of going back to just 1 monitor. It makes life SO much easier and more productive!!

Tim Dawg said,
They have almost everything I want. The last thing they need is a button on the upper right hand corner of windows (to the left of minimize, restore, close) that enables you to "send" windows to other monitors, even if the application is maximized. This feature is available via 3rd party tools such as Ultramon and is hands down the most frequently used feature that I use when dealing with multi-monitor computers. I have multiple monitors on my home and work computers and would never dream of going back to just 1 monitor. It makes life SO much easier and more productive!!

I agree those are really handy, but using Win+Shift+Arrow is also available as a keyboard shortcut

Scorpus said,

I agree those are really handy, but using Win+Shift+Arrow is also available as a keyboard shortcut

I just shuffle them along with Win+Arrow... but I'll have to give WIn+Shift+Arrow a go

PsYcHoKiLLa said,
" 95.64% of laptop users" No sh*t sherlock

My laptop is hooked to a second monitor when it is at my work desk. I suspect that a lot of people flip between "desk mode" and "travel mode," especially when the job calls for working on the go at times. If I had the option, I'd hook up a third screen that I found for free.

Relativity_17 said,

My laptop is hooked to a second monitor when it is at my work desk. I suspect that a lot of people flip between "desk mode" and "travel mode," especially when the job calls for working on the go at times. If I had the option, I'd hook up a third screen that I found for free.

I only use my laptop's screen... to each their own. Surprisingly I develop apps for WP7 all on my little 13" laptop screen lol.

Chrono951 said,
Ok, this drastically improves my outlook on Windows 8.

My thoughts exactly. This improvement alone will be drastically influential on my decision to upgrade.

Chrono951 said,
Ok, this drastically improves my outlook on Windows 8.

Same here but this should be something included in Win7 SP2 or some sorta addon from Microsoft. There is no reason not to support this towards Win7 since why even have a damn task bar in win8 when they removed the stupid start button....derp.

Chrono951 said,
Ok, this drastically improves my outlook on Windows 8.

Fcking. Finally. This was talked in the list of improvements of Win8. Glad they already made a better alternative!

And if you have a good eye, you can see that also the left bar has been improved! Now you can clearly see the names of the apps you are currently running!

I seriously can't wait to test out the Release Preview now.

Adding to my previous post. Now that they are talking about multiple monitors, they should allow more than 6 rows of Tiles to be displayed when having 1920 x1080+ screens. It looks great on 1680 x 1050, but anything higher looks like one is wasting too much space.

Edit: See for example 00:13 of the video. You can see that it would undoubtedly fit 2 more rows to it... People that have high res screens is because they want more of the space to be used, not to be wasted.

Chrono951 said,
Ok, this drastically improves my outlook on Windows 8.

Indeed. I don't think anyone realizes just how drastic a fix this is considered inside MS.

Since MS has had all of these issues documented internally for almost a year now, this can only mean that all of the professional feedback (re: bitching loudly!) was heard.

Kudos to whoever inside MS finally cracked a skull or two. 8D

Now, can anyone do anything about an Ease of User/Accessibility option so that desktop users aren't alienated by the millions by a GUI that has INVISIBLE master controls. 8P

excalpius said,

Indeed. I don't think anyone realizes just how drastic a fix this is considered inside MS.

Since MS has had all of these issues documented internally for almost a year now, this can only mean that all of the professional feedback (re: bitching loudly!) was heard.

Kudos to whoever inside MS finally cracked a skull or two. 8D

Now, can anyone do anything about an Ease of User/Accessibility option so that desktop users aren't alienated by the millions by a GUI that has INVISIBLE master controls. 8P

Or possibly, they planned to have these features in already, but it's not possible to get everything done at once.

Jose_49 said,
Adding to my previous post. Now that they are talking about multiple monitors, they should allow more than 6 rows of Tiles to be displayed when having 1920 x1080+ screens. It looks great on 1680 x 1050, but anything higher looks like one is wasting too much space.

Edit: See for example 00:13 of the video. You can see that it would undoubtedly fit 2 more rows to it... People that have high res screens is because they want more of the space to be used, not to be wasted.

I don't know about 1920x1080, but at 2560x1600 there are a lot more than 6 rows shown. I believe I had to go to the start settings and slide something to show more, though.

excalpius said,

Indeed. I don't think anyone realizes just how drastic a fix this is considered inside MS.

Since MS has had all of these issues documented internally for almost a year now, this can only mean that all of the professional feedback (re: bitching loudly!) was heard.

Kudos to whoever inside MS finally cracked a skull or two. 8D

Now, can anyone do anything about an Ease of User/Accessibility option so that desktop users aren't alienated by the millions by a GUI that has INVISIBLE master controls. 8P

These were announced and shown when Windows 8 was made public...

excalpius said,
Since MS has had all of these issues documented internally for almost a year now, this can only mean that all of the professional feedback (re: bitching loudly!) was heard.

Or, the product is still in beta and all features are in a state of evolution based on user feedback from the DP and CP.