ICANN shoots down .xxx yet again

It looks as if the board of ICANN has quickly brought the revival of the .xxx domain idea to a standstill: in a meeting in Lisbon, the board voted down ICM Registry's proposal, 9 to 5. In turning down the .xxx TLD application yet again, ICANN's board cited a number of reasons, including public policy concerns and varying global standards over what constitutes adult content. ICANN was concerned that it would ultimately end up being responsible for content found in the proposed TLD, noting that the belief of all pornographic content moving to the new domain and henceforth being easily blocked simply isn't going to happen. ICM Registry's proposals have run into opposition from the US government, the American Civil Liberties Union, and some conservative religious groups. Many pornographic website operators also opposed the move, as they feared that an .xxx TLD would result in governments restricting access to all sites in the domain, leading to a drop in traffic and revenues.

"The ICM application raises significant law enforcement compliance issues because of countries' varying laws relating to content and practices that define the nature of the application, therefore obligating ICANN to acquire responsibility related to content and conduct," said ICANN.

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The .xxx domain is entirely voluntary and policed. How many porn vendors do you think are going to submit themselves to this?

Furthermore, their reason for existence is to generate money - by restricting themselves to a .xxx domain, they would limit their income generating potential- that does not make business sense.

That, good sir, is exactly why this is a bad idea. If it worked, and absolutely all the porn vendors moved onto it, imo it would be an improvement since you wouldn't stumble across things (site squatters etc). Yes, and the Think Of The Children factor as well, although it should be the parents policing that not the gov't.
But, that's never going to happen. They'll never all do a mass move, it'd probably cost them to buy the new domains, there's the "why move?" factor, etc.

Good idea in theory, awful idea in the real world.

Esvandiary said,
That, good sir, is exactly why this is a bad idea. If it worked, and absolutely all the porn vendors moved onto it, imo it would be an improvement since you wouldn't stumble across things (site squatters etc). Yes, and the Think Of The Children factor as well, although it should be the parents policing that not the gov't.
But, that's never going to happen. They'll never all do a mass move, it'd probably cost them to buy the new domains, there's the "why move?" factor, etc.

Good idea in theory, awful idea in the real world.

i think you got good points.... im for the .xxx domain stuff myself.. although ithink your right as it will never happen cause if a high percentage of sites dont use it then whats the point. :(

p.s. i disagree with werejag and agree with most of the peoples comments that where going against him since they seemed to make more sence to me.... cause his "restricting freedom of speech" stuff is just crap since it aint restricting NOTHING , all it's doing is labeling it like how austrailia has .au etc etc etc. cause the .xxx domain would make it ALOT easier for people to filter out porn sites.... sure u can blame parents somewhat but this would make it far easier for them to block porn related sites!

ThaCrip said,

i think you got good points.... im for the .xxx domain stuff myself.. although ithink your right as it will never happen cause if a high percentage of sites dont use it then whats the point. :(

p.s. i disagree with werejag and agree with most of the peoples comments that where going against him since they seemed to make more sence to me.... cause his "restricting freedom of speech" stuff is just crap since it aint restricting NOTHING , all it's doing is labeling it like how austrailia has .au etc etc etc. cause the .xxx domain would make it ALOT easier for people to filter out porn sites.... sure u can blame parents somewhat but this would make it far easier for them to block porn related sites! ;)

ill explain a bit

the group of people wanting to move all porn sites to a .xxx tld want to ban such things. this is just a way to do it by pretending its protecting kids.

here is how they plan to do it

1. they force somehow all porn sites to a certain tld
2. then they get that tld blocked on a governmental isp level

we see this is true by a post of Emmy above.

after they do this what will these ppl ban next??? protecting rights some times protects people you do not agree. i will protect your right to choose.

parents have a right to block what their children see as long as it doesn't block my right to view it if i choose.
making it easier for parents is nice idea but this leads to the above nuts removing access for all. sorry but government has never been about making a parents job easier. parenting is a tireless job but they must do it.

god bless parents and the job they have

werejag said,

ill explain a bit

the group of people wanting to move all porn sites to a .xxx tld want to ban such things. this is just a way to do it by pretending its protecting kids.

here is how they plan to do it

1. they force somehow all porn sites to a certain tld
2. then they get that tld blocked on a governmental isp level

we see this is true by a post of Emmy above.

after they do this what will these ppl ban next??? protecting rights some times protects people you do not agree. i will protect your right to choose.

parents have a right to block what their children see as long as it doesn't block my right to view it if i choose.
making it easier for parents is nice idea but this leads to the above nuts removing access for all. sorry but government has never been about making a parents job easier. parenting is a tireless job but they must do it.

god bless parents and the job they have

Lol. Read my rebuttal, again you saw a hidden but non-existent subtext as you're just a conspiracy theorising child that doesn't want his porn supply limited. Porn sites aren't being forced on to the new TLD if it is allowed, therefore your points are moot and you're obviously just a dumbass.

Even if people wanted to ban the XXX domain it would never work, because porn sites would then start coming up on regular TLDs. and regular TLDs can never be so tightly policed. But, moreover, I think most people who support XXX domain realize this themselves, and have no delusions about what they can do.

The .xxx TLD is stupid anyway. There really is NO way you could make sure all the pornographic material was on an .xxx domain, and then you get into the question of what is considered porn in the first place.

And I don't know why America has to be brought up in this discussion. Looking at the last sentence, it seems like this decision was based on a global perspective anyway...

sorry to inform all non us citizens of the internet but here is the usa we have a radical political agenda made by radical right wing nutters. who try to restrict everything on moral or biblical grounds. we have been fighting the battle against these nuts for a long time. the radicals keep trying to codify Christian law into our government.

we are here to fight for freedom.

DigitalDude said,
yeah we been trying to get rid of em forever but they just keep coming back like the plague they are :(

they have a right to exist like these websites. thats the problem. we even allow them to exist. freedom has its price. our freedom comes with the right to allow them to exist.

werejag said,
sorry to inform all non us citizens of the internet but here is the usa we have a radical political agenda [. . .]

So you ARE from the USA! :P

intrinsik4 said,
werejag said,
sorry to inform all non us citizens of the internet but here is the usa we have a radical political agenda [. . .]

So you ARE from the USA! :P

yep this is true

PARANOID.

the article mentions religious groups dont want XXX either because they think it legitimizes porn.

people who want it are moderates, sorry to say.

brianshapiro said,
PARANOID.

the article mentions religious groups dont want XXX either because they think it legitimizes porn.

people who want it are moderates, sorry to say.

yeah and i have a bridge in san Fransisco.

werejag said,
a world vote how nice!!! or are you one of the stupid Americans that think they own the internet

now if you cry after i say this i am really sorry

i'm not from america and i'm not stupid

BBinder said,

now if you cry after i say this i am really sorry

i'm not from america and i'm not stupid

this is freedom of speech not accessible to a vote. minority right out rule majority rights. this is the basis of freedom.

pretell how you can vote a right away?

werejag said,
a world vote how nice!!! or are you one of the stupid Americans that think they own the internet

Go troll somewhere else.

Putting all adult material on a .xxx suffix should be done. It's no different than having .uk, .au, or any others.

MrCobra said,

Go troll somewhere else.

Putting all adult material on a .xxx suffix should be done. It's no different than having .uk, .au, or any others.

not only is its against us constitution but its illegal too on a moral ground. will you pay the difference in revenues to the companies ? will you force all debate to .debate or all freedom to .freedom ?

where will you censorship mongers stop?

werejag said,
a world vote how nice!!! or are you one of the stupid Americans that think they own the internet

And you are a Canadian who wishes they owned the internet...

jubber2002 said,

And you are a Canadian who wishes they owned the internet...

i am? please don't speak that which you don't know

jubber2002 said,
.
And I wish for you to do the same then please.

wish all you want but im not wrong and im not shutting up