IE continues to lose market share to other web browsers

Even though Microsoft's Internet Explorer 9 makes some gains in the web browser market, the overall trend is down for the company's web browser software. PC World reports that according to data from Net Applications, Internet Explorer's share of the web browser business went down .87 percent in the month of July. Overall the combined users of all the versions of Internet Explorer take up 52.81 perent of the web browser market.

The latest version of Microsoft's web browser, IE9, now takes up 6.8 percent of the total web browser market, a gain of 1.1 percent. IE9's web browser share is now higher than IE7. However it is still behind IE6 with 9.2 percent and IE8 which is the number one single browser version used with 29.3 percent. Second place goes to Google's Chrome web browser. It has now claimed 11.16 percent of the market. Mozilla's Firefox 5.0 is third with 10.4 percent. Apple's Safari 5.0 browser now has 5.2 percent of the market while the latest version of the Opera web browser just has 1.3 percent of the market.

Microsoft tries to spin the web browser numbers in a new official blog post. In particular the blog post concentrates on how IE9 is being adopted more and more by large businesses. It states, " Siemens deployed IE9 to 2,100 desktops as part of a pilot program and shared their excited about the new IE9 UI and how it integrates seamlessly with Windows 7." It also claims that IE9 is now being used by 25 percent of users that have Windows 7 installed on its PCs here in the US and 18 percent worldwide.

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Wow, and that comes as a surprise that they lose market share? Yet another useless article...sigh

Karma again. Whenever they abandon customers they will lose that market slowly. They abandoned XP users and now IE will eventually fall to far low market share %. They abandoned WM6.5 users and WP7 isn't doing well at all. You got to have some accountability towards your existing customer base. Hope IE dies an irrelevant death.

apple seem to be doing well despite ditching old products... existing customer base just forgot about their old grieviences and lap up the new fangled stuff apple comes out with....

i wonder why....

Looking at it from development and design standpoint.. I think all browsers need to adopt Webkit and just compete on browser features and not underlying rendering engine. Just keep improving Webkit.. everyone uses it and you win users by introducing quality UI and usability features.

Boz said,
Looking at it from development and design standpoint.. I think all browsers need to adopt Webkit and just compete on browser features and not underlying rendering engine. Just keep improving Webkit.. everyone uses it and you win users by introducing quality UI and usability features.

And every auto manufacturer should just adopt the same engine just differentiate with the bubble on top.

daft.

Poor Opera...1.3%...lol It's a great browser...
Anyways, I think another thing that really kills IE is it doesn't have some of the most basic features...Like spell check. Sure, there might be an addon somewhere for one, but something like that really needs to be part of the default setup...Let's face it...Kids can't spell anymore...

I really like this situation. Maybe they will build even better browser in the future. We all know IE9 was great step forward, but wasn't enough, obviously.

Let's see what we gonna get in IE 10, except all those html5 features. Personally, some more usability I'd like.

yazb123 said,
microsoft shouldnt be playing catch up with firefox and chrome, they should be ahead of the competition

They kinda already are, people just don't realize it yet because they bash IE based on its old, bad reputation

Coi said,

They kinda already are, people just don't realize it yet because they bash IE based on its old, bad reputation

No, they do realize it, but continue to bash it anyway out of fear. Plus the fact that it won't run on Windows XP. I mean, how dare Microsoft force me off of a 10 year old OS!

ahhell said,
"Internet Explorer's share of the web browser business went down .87 percent in the month of July"
HOLY **** THE END IS NIGH!!!

Well, if you remove .87% every month and then they will lose 10,44% in a year

There really isn't an advantage to use IE over the other browsers anymore... Before, in ages, past every website was designed for IE so it looked awful on other browsers.

Google seem to prioritize speed and simplification when Mozilla introduces new ways to work with your browsers and improved functionality... But I'm not sure where MS is going with their browser.


I also think a lot of companies and people are afraid to use IE. Give the IE team too much market share and power and we know what happens: the development stops and the standards sink!

"Internet Explorer's share of the web browser business went down .87 percent in the month of July"
HOLY **** THE END IS NIGH!!!

It depends on the question. Is the question "What is the best browser for me?", for me the questions is still "What is the less worse browser?" since years.

I am the only one with this opinion?

The big problem I think is Microsoft's commitment to carry on supporting IE6 until 2014! ..a browser that's now a decade old!! Unless there is a greater take up of IE9 and the forthcoming IE10, come 2014 when IE6 will hopefully finally die(!), I think IE's market share is going to be very small indeed!

I explored some of the reasons behind why IE6 is a growing problem right now in a recent blog post: http://blog.mid.as/index.php/2...osoft-holding-back-the-web/


This is stupid. It proves nothing.
Where are the numbers?
Why are all IE version seperate but other vendors aren't?
All all people that did the survey spread evenly across all types? No. So it's unfair.
Of course people that use the lower used versions will be smarter, this is a no brainer.

Look at the figures...

IE has a total market share of 52.71%
The bottom percentile of these results includes approx 80% of IE users, compared to 6% of FF users...huge difference
At the top percentile, add all IE up and you get approx 20% (3rd overall), in comparison to FF.

This means that 42.2% of IE's marketshare is in the bottom percentile, and 10.5% of IE's marketshare are in the top percentile.

FF has 1.3% in the bottom, while 7.3% in the top.

It still means that more IE users have a higher IQ than FF users.
Averages mean nothing when there are just so many more to bring down the numbers.

Microsoft_Bob said,

Only the corporates types and those that don't know what a browser is. Fortunately that's changing with each more savy generation.
Amen brother!

Microsoft_Bob said,

Only the corporates types and those that don't know what a browser is. Fortunately that's changing with each more savy generation.

Microsoft_Bob, please stop trolling. We know you here already.

yowan said,
People still use IE?

Umm yeah, 52.81% of people...which is a majority no matter which way you want to work it out

LLTC said,

Umm yeah, 52.81% of people...which is a majority no matter which way you want to work it out

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Right now, I personally think that Fx' and Chrome's percentages are far more important than some "dead" countable machines with IE. These much more active users I think is what counts, bring money and promoting the browsers freely.

ie9 is the best browser period, no question about it. if you use chrome or firefox, youre not using it because its better,you're using it because youre an anti ms crusader who thinks they are so ****in cool like its still 1996. if ie9 was also available for xp,then ie will have ate the rest of the others lunches.

ie9 is the best browser period, no question about it. if you use chrome or firefox, youre not using it because its better,you're using it because youre an anti ms crusader who thinks they are so ****in cool like its still 1996. if ie9 was also available for xp,then ie will have ate the rest of the others lunches.

vcfan said,
ie9 is the best browser period, no question about it. if you use chrome or firefox, youre not using it because its better,you're using it because youre an anti ms crusader who thinks they are so ****in cool like its still 1996. if ie9 was also available for xp,then ie will have ate the rest of the others lunches.

The fanboys have arrived xD But seriously I don't use IE because addons are better on virtually ever other browser and speedwise it's the pretty much the same old clunker it's always been (small improvements but still in the minor leagues), if we were anti-ms we wouldn't use Windows at all

vcfan said,
ie9 is the best browser period, no question about it. if you use chrome or firefox, youre not using it because its better,you're using it because youre an anti ms crusader who thinks they are so ****in cool like its still 1996. if ie9 was also available for xp,then ie will have ate the rest of the others lunches.
LOL! Funniest thing I've read all day! You're a real comedian!

Microsoft_Bob said,

It's a shame the rest of the world disagrees with you then xD.

The rest of the world. Of course. Trololol.

vcfan said,
ie9 is the best browser period, no question about it. if you use chrome or firefox, youre not using it because its better,you're using it because youre an anti ms crusader who thinks they are so ****in cool like its still 1996. if ie9 was also available for xp,then ie will have ate the rest of the others lunches.
I certainly agree with you regarding some parts.

-The UI is my favourite.
-The HTML5 support is highest in any browser.
-The hardware accelaration is still unrivalled by a great margin.
-No browser has been able to beat them in SinSpider since it launched. And IE10 preview 2 is even faster.
-And obviously far more secure than any browser( according to several security research groups)

So yes, it's my default browser too!

They just woke up too late, to correct the direction of their browser.

And had they released a version for XP, the numbers would have been a lot different, since so many businesses use it, and they are marketing it as "business-friendly" browser.

FMH said,
They just woke up too late, to correct the direction of their browser.

And had they released a version for XP, the numbers would have been a lot different,


IE pushes through Windows update are optional not mandatory, so I doubt it would have made that much difference.

FMH said,
... had they released a version for XP, the numbers would have been a lot different, since so many businesses use it, and they are marketing it as "business-friendly" browser.

Had they made it for XP it would suck just as bad as other 'modern browsers' on that platform. Why extend the life of a product which is less secure by default than the current batch.

Love it with my work based MS applications, hate it as a personal browser. Chrome just does exactly what I need it to.

bguy_1986 said,
too much fud being spread around about IE IMO...

Like ?

Like IE 7 not supporting inline-block for block level elements ?

Yes IE 9 is great. IE 8 was okay. But people did switch for a reason. And they are not going back to IE that easily. Not everyone is a fan of MS like people here at neowin. They did switch and it will take more than beeing as good for them to switch again.

Same thing will aply fo Firefox if they continue to have memory leak problems and start loosing too much market share to Chrome.

bguy_1986 said,
too much fud being spread around about IE IMO...

And IE deserves every bit of it. Microsoft has a lot of making up to do to erase a decade of poor security and sloppy software.

well ie9 its a good browser engine, but the horrible, uncustomizable and unfamiliar interface just kill it

The problem with IE is that it is catching up with established standards already followed by Firefox, Chrome, Safari, and Opera. Another thing is that IE9 requires Vista and later, while the latest versions of Opera/Firefox/Chrome still run on XP.

Z'Loth said,
Another thing is that IE9 requires Vista and later, while the latest versions of Opera/Firefox/Chrome still run on XP.

True, and you need to take into consideration that many people won't upgrade from IE8 because don't know about it or don't know how to... (With Windows 7).

They are attacked from so many fronts. Even addons or sync won't help much. The problem isn't a lack of features or sync -- IE has done pretty well in features the past couple of years. However, the problem is WP7 not doing well enough, and Bing not doing well enough. Apple is chewing through the tablet market right now, and therefore Safari Mobile is too. And Google is doing well with Android as well as search, which do many great things for both Chrome as a native browser, and for advertising Chrome. If Bing held 80% of search, or WP7 was the mobile platform of choice among users, there would be no IE problem. It would even have a greater market share with LESS features than today. So this trend should continue regardless what IE offers in the next version. It does not even matter. It's about the platforms, and a greater problem than technicalities of feature sets for Microsoft. The browser market share rules changed a long time ago now.

Until Firefox/Google/whoever can come up with a browser that has an automated and silent update system, and can be centrally managed by a server via AD GPO, I think I'll stick to good old IE...... A lot of people don't take this into consideration, that all these cute little "gadgets" that apple/google etc etc make while "shiny" just aren't ready for enterprise use....

danny62381 said,
Until Firefox/Google/whoever can come up with a browser that has an automated and silent update system, and can be centrally managed by a server via AD GPO, I think I'll stick to good old IE...... A lot of people don't take this into consideration, that all these cute little "gadgets" that apple/google etc etc make while "shiny" just aren't ready for enterprise use....

I think you might want to do some research before making statements you don't much about

mltcx said,

I think you might want to do some research before making statements you don't much about

So enlighten us, let us know how firefox and chrome tie into a windows environment with easy deployment, controls and GPO management?

danny62381 said,
Until Firefox/Google/whoever can come up with a browser that has an automated and silent update system, and can be centrally managed by a server via AD GPO, I think I'll stick to good old IE...... A lot of people don't take this into consideration, that all these cute little "gadgets" that apple/google etc etc make while "shiny" just aren't ready for enterprise use....

http://www.google.com/support/...=4a5e8d605c723c03&hl=en for GPO
and update Chrome main argument for security is automatic update and they focus on small incremental update

danny62381 said,
A lot of people don't take this into consideration,

A lot of people here forget that there's a market beside companies. If i am to believe some posters here 100% of the people using a computer use it 100% of the time in a company.

spudtrooper said,
So enlighten us, let us know how firefox and chrome tie into a windows environment with easy deployment, controls and GPO management?

danny62381 said the following:

Until Firefox/Google/whoever can come up with a browser that has an automated and silent update system, and can be centrally managed by a server via AD GPO

Those browsers already have automated and silent updating - if he didn't want the first part of his sentence to be decoupled from his second part then he shouldn't have used the comma or he should have structured as follows:

Until Firefox/Google/whoever can be centrally managed by a server via AD GPO....

Centrally managed implies updating as well hence the redundancy of having the two in the same sentence.

Microsoft's strategy is for modern operating systems and modern browsers. It's important they win in the Windows 7 space and beyond so why focus on IE6 and Windows XP?

Tom W said,
Microsoft's strategy is for modern operating systems and modern browsers. It's important they win in the Windows 7 space and beyond so why focus on IE6 and Windows XP?

Agreed, why waste time on Windows XP when customers are going to eventually upgrade to Windows 7 - it is just a matter of playing the waiting game.

fenderMarky said,
live mesh has bookmark synchronization... btw it's losing market because IE9 doesn't support xp.

and that's MS choice not to

fenderMarky said,
live mesh has bookmark synchronization... btw it's losing market because IE9 doesn't support xp.

Nor should it. IE9 is a modern browser. XP is not a modern OS. No reason Microsoft should support dying software.

FrozenEclipse said,

Nor should it. IE9 is a modern browser. XP is not a modern OS. No reason Microsoft should support dying software.

And yet their competitors, who are eating into their market share, do support XP. Hundreds of millions of people use XP in the workplace every day, we shouldn't be relegated to an out-of-date browser.

tomjol said,

And yet their competitors, who are eating into their market share, do support XP. Hundreds of millions of people use XP in the workplace every day, we shouldn't be relegated to an out-of-date browser.

XP users deserve nothing, really. It's not your fault, but there really is nothing you can do with it anymore from a developer's perspective. Even those other "modern" browsers you speak of have to be "dumbed down" to support XP. All that hardware acceleration you think you're getting is nowhere near what Windows Vista/7 users get.

guru said,
addons addons, addons and browser sync

Browser sync is kind of available with Live Mesh. Favorites only for now so not the best solution but it is a start for now. Let's hope they'll actually integrate it within IE itself for those that don't want Live Mesh.

MFH said,

IE has addons for ages…

i know.. an easier framework perhaps? IE doesnt have anywhere near the adons Chrome,FF and now even opera have.

guru said,

i know.. an easier framework perhaps? IE doesnt have anywhere near the adons Chrome,FF and now even opera have.

Agreed. The current COM model stinks. They need to make it a CLR host.

GreyWolf said,
Agreed. The current COM model stinks. They need to make it a CLR host.

Or maybe two frameworks - one that is more simplified and can be developed by non-programmers then another which is more low level and gives more control to the programmer. One of the benefits with the new Firefox and Safari/Chrome models is their use of web technologies which allow a beginner to average programmer to develop extensions easily - maybe adopt a framework that is already being used as to take advantage of the extensions that already exist.

Microsoft_Bob said,

Yeah and they're all useless compared with Firefox's

The only add ons worth having are adblock and flash block anyway, IMO. Could care less about any others. Can live without flash block, but adblock is a must.

GreyWolf said,

Agreed. The current COM model stinks. They need to make it a CLR host.

As long as DLR is supported on top as well, I'm all for it!!!!!

DrakeN2k said,
my prediction is that not one browser will be domant it will be the big 3 with equal marketshare

Which is a good thing. No one browser should dominate. Especially one made by Microsoft, given their history of holding back standards.

Microsoft_Bob said,

Which is a good thing. No one browser should dominate. Especially one made by Microsoft, given their history of holding back standards.
+1
Exactly. It's the way the web was intended to be like.

Microsoft_Bob said,
..., given their history of holding back standards.

Good thing they've learned from history and turned over a new leaf championing standards louder and harder than anyone else. Other browsers take the approach of 'look we support emerging standard x and vendor Y doesn't.'

That needs to stop. Having MS commit there test case suite to W3C is a good start.
Ensuring their browser passes other vendor test suites is another.

This is good news all around.

I like IE9.. i don't care if it loses marketshare.. the fact ie10 is already in preview builds and MS is chugging along to build windows 8 where html5 is integral i don't really have anything to worry about other than having a choice of browser.