IE10 to ship with Windows 8?

Microsoft may have just taken the wrapping paper off of IE9, but the IE10 rumors are already starting to surface. The latest, and possibly first, IE10 rumor says that it will ship with Windows 8.

This information comes from Win7China, who also provided some of the first legitimate Windows 8 screenshots. Because they potentially have a solid source of information, this rumor holds a bit of weight. They also state that IE10 is already in Windows 8 M3, but we have yet to confirm that information.

The idea of including IE10 with Windows 8 seems logical. Considering that IE9 just launched, if the rumored Windows 8 launch days are correct, the browser would be well over a year old when Windows 8 finally ships to the consumer. Other than this little bit of information, not much else is known about IE10.

There have been a lot of leaks surrounding Windows 8 over the past few weeks. While we have yet to see the new dynamic interface in the new platform, 'Aero Lite' has shown the general direction Microsoft is taking with the Windows 8 UI.

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Microsoft is really eager to push our new versions all the time... What's the big difference, between like IE version seven and nine?

Tpiom said,
Microsoft is really eager to push our new versions all the time... What's the big difference, between like IE version seven and nine?

Support for web-open font specification.

A completely new rendering engine based on the HTML5 and ECMAScript specs. The ECMAScript (JavaScript) engine compiles the JScript to native code for faster execution. The ECMAScript compiler actually optimizes the code removing unnecessary function calls, etc.

The rendering engine also supports hardware acceleration via the GPU for blazingly fast html based animations/transitions, etc.

A more modular design allowing for the components that do the heavy lifting in web surfing to be updated independently, allowing for the inclusion of new CSS/HTML/JS elements as specifications are ratified.

A re-vamped compatability mode that actually makes sites designed for ie6 usable in ie9.

Just to name a few differences.

dotf said,

Support for web-open font specification.

A completely new rendering engine based on the HTML5 and ECMAScript specs. The ECMAScript (JavaScript) engine compiles the JScript to native code for faster execution. The ECMAScript compiler actually optimizes the code removing unnecessary function calls, etc.

The rendering engine also supports hardware acceleration via the GPU for blazingly fast html based animations/transitions, etc.

A more modular design allowing for the components that do the heavy lifting in web surfing to be updated independently, allowing for the inclusion of new CSS/HTML/JS elements as specifications are ratified.

A re-vamped compatability mode that actually makes sites designed for ie6 usable in ie9.

Just to name a few differences.


1: its still the Trident Engine.
2: Compatibility mode is still godawfull.

I dont know about IE10, but WMP13 could finally get native support for MKA,MKV,OGG, OGM, FLAC, WebM + SRT, ASS, SSA and SUB..

I really think they are pushing Windows8 a bit too fast, this shouldn't be released till 2014 considering how stable and fast the performance is with Windows 7 at this point. Simple update additions can bump Win7's performance up if need be for the time being.

sava700 said,
I really think they are pushing Windows8 a bit too fast, this shouldn't be released till 2014 considering how stable and fast the performance is with Windows 7 at this point. Simple update additions can bump Win7's performance up if need be for the time being.

What's the problem with a 2-3 year release schedule? I don't see people complaining over Apple releasing new versions of OSX every 1-2 years.

Microsoft NEEDS to push out Windows versions regularly or we'll see a XP-Vista fiasco again.

floopy said,

What's the problem with a 2-3 year release schedule? I don't see people complaining over Apple releasing new versions of OSX every 1-2 years.

Microsoft NEEDS to push out Windows versions regularly or we'll see a XP-Vista fiasco again.

Actually, the fact that they needed to release it instead of waiting even more years was the problem with Vista. They could have spent another couple of years fixing Longhorn's bugs, but they chose to axe the project entirely, & release a rushed version of XP that, although has less bugs than Longhorn, still had many cuz it was rushed.

'Course, that's Apple for ya. MSFT needed to compete as Apple was preparing Leopard...

But, whatever, I agree with a 2-3 year release schedule.

MASTER260 said,

Actually, the fact that they needed to release it instead of waiting even more years was the problem with Vista. They could have spent another couple of years fixing Longhorn's bugs, but they chose to axe the project entirely, & release a rushed version of XP that, although has less bugs than Longhorn, still had many cuz it was rushed.

'Course, that's Apple for ya. MSFT needed to compete as Apple was preparing Leopard...

But, whatever, I agree with a 2-3 year release schedule.


Windows XP was codenamed Whistler, not Longhorn.
Windows XP was not rushed into release. It was ready in 64bit well before release. Due to consumer market running 32bit hardware, they rewrote Windows XP back to 32bit, this was done in a rush (which is why before SP1 Windows XP was utter crap)
And from Longhorn to Vista was neither done in a rush.

...and while WMP 12 is the best player and uses the fewer resources, I'd like version 13 with some more file types support.

Windows 8 with IE10 and WMP13! Ideal! Both with the best HWA implementation!

I'd like not to depend anymore on third party codecs or whatever...

if the rumored Windows 8 launch days are correct, the browser would be well over a year old when Windows 8 finally ships to the consumer.

As long as MS updates IE9 to compete with other browsers and remains current, then there should be no pain with IE9 during the build up to Win8/IE10.

I hope they read the suggestions on the connect site, in particular the suggestions about the GUI.
IE9.0 works very well here, depending on the website better than chrome (e.g. sites with flash games), but the GUI need some work and new ideas.

I think Microsoft should consider upgrade IE as other browsers do, like update or add some features every few weeks/ months.

GraphiteCube said,
I think Microsoft should consider upgrade IE as other browsers do, like update or add some features every few weeks/ months.

No business would take IE seriously then. This is why Chrome will never gain a significant marketshare. Do they even release security patches for old versions?

GraphiteCube said,
I think Microsoft should consider upgrade IE as other browsers do, like update or add some features every few weeks/ months.

Like floopy said, Windows and Internet Explorer are used professionally, they release milestones only to assure business users that they are stable, dependable releases and updates only fix problems not add features to prevent compatibility issues.

The bleeding edge is of no use to most business, they need reliability.

floopy said,

No business would take IE seriously then. This is why Chrome will never gain a significant marketshare. Do they even release security patches for old versions?

Chrome isn't IE (thank god). There is no such thing as old version. There is just Chrome.

alexalex said,

Chrome isn't IE (thank god). There is no such thing as old version. There is just Chrome.


And that is exactly why no one will take Chrome seriously. Businesses can't afford to roll out a browser every 3 months. Sticking to older versions wouldn't work because of the lack of security patches.

floopy said,

No business would take IE seriously then. This is why Chrome will never gain a significant marketshare. Do they even release security patches for old versions?

Is it even necessary? Chrome doesn't need admin rights to update itself and doesnt need to nag nobody about updating, right? It just happens. Whether this is a good or a bad thing, that's up to companies to decide, but chrome can work this way. (Unless they install chrome through google desktop).

yowan said,
Chrome will already be at v30 by this time
i wonder if chrome will hit triple digits. seems awkward- chrome 100...

lunarworks said,

New Windows? Yes. New IE? Yes. New Office? Can we hold off a bit longer on that?

No, MS wants Office 15 out and running on Win8 on ARM tablets. It's a key piece to the plan.

GP007 said,

No, MS wants Office 15 out and running on Win8 on ARM tablets. It's a key piece to the plan.

and it would encourage emigration ,instead of having it in one device
why not upgrade all the machines?

Fred 69 said,

Heard of Adobe Reader X?

Yeah, and I was going to use that as an example but felt it was irrelevant since Adobe and Apple aren't really competitors and no one really cares about Adobe naming schemes

ApuBo said,

at that time maybe IE13?

My guess:
IE 10 with Windows 8 at the end of 2012
IE 11 in mid-2014
IE 12 with Windows 9 at the end of 2015

It's looking like Microsoft are developing a predictable schedule here, which is probably by design.

Timble said,

My guess:
IE 10 with Windows 8 at the end of 2012
IE 11 in mid-2014
IE 12 with Windows 9 at the end of 2015

It's looking like Microsoft are developing a predictable schedule here, which is probably by design.

I dunno, IE seems to be on a 12month schedule, and everyone expects them to talk and even start off IE10's dev next month at MiX. So, I think we'll get IE10 before the final version of Win8 for the desktop (I think we'll see win8 for tablets first like that one rumor said). So IE11 in 2013 and so on.

Timble said,

My guess:
IE 10 with Windows 8 at the end of 2012
IE 11 in mid-2014
IE 12 with Windows 9 at the end of 2015

It's looking like Microsoft are developing a predictable schedule here, which is probably by design.

I do agree a bit although i think they will just do minor upgrades for IE10 just to say it has it.. I think they are realizing they need to upgrade it more often like chrome or others..

GP007 said,

I dunno, IE seems to be on a 12month schedule, and everyone expects them to talk and even start off IE10's dev next month at MiX. So, I think we'll get IE10 before the final version of Win8 for the desktop (I think we'll see win8 for tablets first like that one rumor said). So IE11 in 2013 and so on.

i hope so.

we don't went release lag like
between
IE6 > IE7 (which is the longest gap , 5 years i believe ?)
IE7 > IE8 which is roughly 3+ years

Mohitster said,

There will never-ever be a certain something "Internet Explorer 13" !!! I can bet!


MS already announced they will skip IE13 and just go from IE12 to IE14

Shadowzz said,

MS already announced they will skip IE13 and just go from IE12 to IE14
did they really? why are they so supersitious with the number 13?

Timble said,

My guess:
IE 10 with Windows 8 at the end of 2012
IE 11 in mid-2014
IE 12 with Windows 9 at the end of 2015

It's looking like Microsoft are developing a predictable schedule here, which is probably by design.

you can count on another MS OS like Vista2 to alter those timelines

dave164 said,
Shouldn't be much of a surprise. Hopefully there will be updates along the line before IE10 though.

Looking at Microsoft's past performance and current policy, this is exactly in line with what we've been expecting. Three years for each Windows version and 18-24 months for each browser revision puts both at the end of 2012 or beginning of 2013. Our expectations thus far also tell us not to expect a single update to either product (except security patches) in between...