Image allegedly of Windows Phone 8.1 shows multi-tile select, notification center

Microsoft may be planning to add the ability to select multiple tiles in the next major update for its Windows Phone operating system, if an image allegedly of Windows Phone 8.1 is any indication.

An image posted by Windows-Phone.pl shows what appears to be the new capability, with four tiles highlighted with check marks in the top right corner of each. If the image is legitimate, it would bring Windows Phone 8.1 in line with Windows 8, which allows users to select multiple tiles. In addition to the multi-select feature, the rumored notification center icon makes another appearance; the tile for the notification center was first revealed in an image released Sunday.

The notification center tile in the newly released image looks identical to the image released Sunday, and the format of the photo is also similar. Both images feature a Windows Phone 8.1 device in front of a monitor showing what appears to be Windows 8.1 in the background. The format is likely being used to lend credence to the photos' authenticity, though it could be easily faked.

Windows Phone 8.1 is expected to be released early next year, though Microsoft hasn't formally provided any timeline for the update.

Source: Windows-Phone.pl via WMPoweruser | Image via Windows-Phone.pl

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My friend is always complaining that he never gets Whatsapp or LINE notifications, He had to open the apps in order to know there's a message. The notification center on my iPhone is great. I think is good when MS, Apple & Google listen to their customers.

This is it! This is what the masses have been waiting for! Now Windows Phone will take off like a rocket! Now everyone will want Windows Phone, nothing can stop Windows Phone being number 1 now!

derekaw said,
This is it! This is what the masses have been waiting for! Now Windows Phone will take off like a rocket! Now everyone will want Windows Phone, nothing can stop Windows Phone being number 1 now!

can you not

A big tile that takes up a lot of real estate? Hell, copy...do something. Pull from top, pull from side....something. Why use up valuable real estate that is shown all the time.

That's not a notification centre. Grow a pair, steal the idea from Android and have a pulldown like every other bloody smart phone on the planet.

Well, since the NT kernel has replaced the CE kernel in WP8, and NT supports both 32 & 64 bit, yes, it could. It depends on the chip though.

MaddddHatter said,
The question now is, can Windows Phone 8.1 run 64-bit apps? If not then MS is falling further behind.

MaddddHatter

As long as there's a 64-bit CPU sure, why not? Windows NT has supported 64-bit for a very long time. Since most WP programs aren't native code they don't need to be recompiled. Other native code programs can use WoW64. Mobile apps really don't need to address more than 2GB of memory, so there really is no need for the to move to 64-bit until (if ever) they do.

All what i'm interested in WP8.1 is less restrictive support for files stored on SD card. For now, i am unable to see anything what i have on it.

Personally I wish they'd just mandate more internal storage. For now being able to put music, videos, and photos on the SD card is enough for me. WP doesn't expose the filesystem to the user and until it does there's not a whole lot more you can or need to do with the SD card.

I'm pretty sure that all these leaks (doesn't matter from which company they are) are rather controlled sneak-peeks rather than acutally leaks. It's just easier to generate interest with "leak" than "review", people feel more exlusive and vip-ish reading informations that are heavily guarded.

minster11 said,
Wait what's good about multi select? What's the advantage of notification as a tile if I have to select it?

I'm assuming that on flip the notification tile will give you something useful...

As for multi-select, it would allow you to remove multiple tiles at once. Not the most useful use case, but I can't think of any others... LOL

M_Lyons10 said,

I'm assuming that on flip the notification tile will give you something useful...

As for multi-select, it would allow you to remove multiple tiles at once. Not the most useful use case, but I can't think of any others... LOL


multiselect then move, delete, maybe form a group (this would be good, form a group of tiles that will always stick to each other as displayed), maybe change colour, size.....

M_Lyons10 said,

I'm assuming that on flip the notification tile will give you something useful...

As for multi-select, it would allow you to remove multiple tiles at once. Not the most useful use case, but I can't think of any others... LOL

Yea I was trying to think what else the multi-select could be for. In the photos app it's essentially for that too...grab a bunch and delete.

Every time we see a mention or a screenshot about notification center in WP8, some smart person will come up and say that its not needed and another 3-4 people will reply saying why its justified. Guess what? It's coming for sure which means MS does think its important so there is no point debating why its required or not.

Coming to the point, if this is how MS plans to implement the notification center through a tile then its epic fail and really stupid. We need a notification center which can be accessed easily and from anywhere. Whether we like it or not, Google really nailed the notification center in Android, no wonder Apple strictly copied it too. I'm not saying MS should copy them but I hope there is a better way of doing this.

Also does anyone else feel restricted with only 5 apps that can show notification on lockscreen? I feel quite restricted to be honest.

How can you complain about it from a screenshot? we do not know if it can be accessed somewhere else yet. for all we know that tile is temporary till the group responsible for the actual way gets it programmed.

StandingInAlley said,
Every time we see a mention or a screenshot about notification center in WP8, some smart person will come up and say that its not needed and another 3-4 people will reply saying why its justified. Guess what? It's coming for sure which means MS does think its important so there is no point debating why its required or not.

Coming to the point, if this is how MS plans to implement the notification center through a tile then its epic fail and really stupid. We need a notification center which can be accessed easily and from anywhere. Whether we like it or not, Google really nailed the notification center in Android, no wonder Apple strictly copied it too. I'm not saying MS should copy them but I hope there is a better way of doing this.

Also does anyone else feel restricted with only 5 apps that can show notification on lockscreen? I feel quite restricted to be honest.

Swiping would only work on the Start Screen since WP is a horizontally based OS. Swiping in apps only moves the app's screen, and swiping down reveals signal bars, battery status, etc.

Dot Matrix said,

Swiping would only work on the Start Screen since WP is a horizontally based OS. Swiping in apps only moves the app's screen, and swiping down reveals signal bars, battery status, etc.

Tapping the top of the screen reveals the status icons, not swiping. Swiping isn't detected and instead appears the same as a tap. All they'd have to do to put a notification center drop down is only start showing it after you've dragged down about 2cm. Dragging less than that or tapping will show the status icons as it currently does.

I can't help but be bothered about notifications on WP8.1 and not Windows 8.1. Surely for those who use it on a tablet or use metro apps on the desktop it would be useful.

I'd like to be able to select the colours on tiles independently...unless I'm being a special-ed and haven't spotted an already existing way to do that.

I really hope multi-select results in the ability to Group Live Tiles on the Start Screen. If so, I also hope they include an auto categorise and smart fit option that keeps it looking neat n tidy.

Interesting. It's becoming more and more like Windows 8. I hope they make it so that swiping to the right lets you see the notifications.

Anaron said,
Interesting. It's becoming more and more like Windows 8. I hope they make it so that swiping to the right lets you see the notifications.

Why have the tile then?

GP007 said,
Why have the tile then?

I hope that's just there as another option to get to the notifications. I want to swipe over for this.

while swiping right seems logical, that's going to break the UI everywhere except the home screen.

- Think how you swipe for changing pivots.
- Swipe right in the app list will take you back to home instead of a notification center

There is no other way to do a notification center but
- go with Android style
or
- use the app switcher UI

GP007 said,

Why have the tile then?

Why get rid of it? Someone out there may not want to swipe to the right. Options are usually a good thing.

BajiRav said,
while swiping right seems logical, that's going to break the UI everywhere except the home screen.

- Think how you swipe for changing pivots.
- Swipe right in the app list will take you back to home instead of a notification center

There is no other way to do a notification center but
- go with Android style
or
- use the app switcher UI

App pivots are optional. And swiping to the right from the app list should always bring you to the home screen. What I meant was having the notification centre accessible by swiping to the right from the home screen, just like the app list is accessible by swiping to the left from the home screen.

Anaron said,
Why get rid of it? Someone out there may not want to swipe to the right. Options are usually a good thing.

App pivots are optional. And swiping to the right from the app list should always bring you to the home screen. What I meant was having the notification centre accessible by swiping to the right from the home screen, just like the app list is accessible by swiping to the left from the home screen.

Options are good and I agree but if you still have to go back to the home screen then it being a tile or you swiping from the left of the home screen is kind of the same thing. The sticking point here is the need to still go back to the home screen at all to access it.

GP007 said,
The sticking point here is the need to still go back to the home screen at all to access it.

Well, they could (and should) make it so that people can access the notifications with a swipe from all apps; so one could see and respond to notifications as well as your most used settings. It could (and should) also feature settings from the app you were in, along with the help from that app, as well as an "about" that app (featuring version number etc).

That's the way I see it anyway and hope it will be implemented in Windows Phone 9 as well as Windows 9 - then I'll make the switch to that ecosystem

Nice! I've really been enjoying my Windows Phone, and these are really welcome features. I hope Microsoft continues to streamline the platform and kick up competition between Apple and Google.

BajiRav said,
why the red boxes on the Winver in the background?

That's how it was at the source -- just the thing they were trying to highlight as notable.

BajiRav said,
why the red boxes on the Winver in the background?

The phone is running both operating systems simultaneously and driving an external monitor.

Dot Matrix said,
Notification center still seems highly redundant. That's what Live Tiles are for.

True, but sometimes you get notifications for apps that arent pinned. (at least i do)

Dot Matrix said,
Notification center still seems highly redundant. That's what Live Tiles are for.

What if you get notifications for an app that is not pinned or what if you have lots of apps pinned and you get a notification for an app that is at the very bottom? Surely having to scroll all the way down or having to hunt the app down is not good design.

Dot Matrix said,
Notification center still seems highly redundant. That's what Live Tiles are for.

Not everyone wants every single app that have pinned onto their homescreen. And even if they did, who wants to scroll all that way checking for tiles that have them, amongst the tiles that dont?

iOS Apps show a number by them, people still complained they had to scroll all those homescreens to see which App had made the sound.

Dot Matrix said,
Notification center still seems highly redundant. That's what Live Tiles are for.

Agree. I can see the notification tile being a useful compromise though...and presumably it can be un-pinned if not required personally.

Dot Matrix said,
Notification center still seems highly redundant. That's what Live Tiles are for.

How's that work when the screen locks? Does it show multiple snippets of email? Oh wait, no it doesn't. It doesn't even light up when something comes in.

briangw said,

How's that work when the screen locks? Does it show multiple snippets of email? Oh wait, no it doesn't. It doesn't even light up when something comes in.

I know if I get an email it'll show me on the lock screen...and if i have other messages or emails it has the number shown at the bottom. Depends how you have the lock screen notifications set up.

Or are you talking about something else?

Dot Matrix said,
Notification center still seems highly redundant. That's what Live Tiles are for.

Great foresight into user design. What if an app not on live tiles releases a notification and you miss it? hm... OH WELL!

SirJimmyOfRussell said,

I know if I get an email it'll show me on the lock screen...and if i have other messages or emails it has the number shown at the bottom. Depends how you have the lock screen notifications set up.

Or are you talking about something else?

I'm talking about having the ability to see snippets from multiple emails, like you can with an iPhone or an Android. That and having the screen light up when an email comes in would be nice.

Windows Phone is a good phone, just not a great on-call phone when I traded my work iPhone to test out this Lumia 920.

Dot Matrix said,
Notification center still seems highly redundant. That's what Live Tiles are for.

Based on what we're seeing so far, I would agree... I'm hoping this is not the full implementation, as it's severely lacking...

Kalint said,

Great foresight into user design. What if an app not on live tiles releases a notification and you miss it? hm... OH WELL!

Absolutely, but at the same time, I think if they're doing a notification center, they should do it right. Just creating another live tile really isn't it...

Kalint said,

Great foresight into user design. What if an app not on live tiles releases a notification and you miss it? hm... OH WELL!

If you're not interested enough in the app to pin it to the start screen, you're probably not interested in the notifications it sends.

Anyway, the only real reason for a notification center is to group all the past toast notifications. And yes, I believe that would be useful because they are transient.

rfirth said,

If you're not interested enough in the app to pin it to the start screen, you're probably not interested in the notifications it sends.

This.

Dot Matrix said,

This.

Flawed Logic is immensely flawed. I have a tonne of apps on my android Phone that don't get a spot on any of my homescreens, but I still want notifications from them. Even if I do have ALL my apps pinned on my homescreen, that was so annoying when I had a Windows Phone, hearing it beep and then going hunting on my screen for which single tile had a new update for me.

Are you so against a Notification Center? What's wrong with a centralised place for all your notifications that you can get to without having to waste time hunting for?

rfirth said,

If you're not interested enough in the app to pin it to the start screen, you're probably not interested in the notifications it sends.

Anyway, the only real reason for a notification center is to group all the past toast notifications. And yes, I believe that would be useful because they are transient.

Brillant logic as ever. lmfao. Thank god windows isnt in airplanes with that logic of yours wahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa.

Nazmus Shakib Khandaker said,

I am tired of people being blind fanboys. It's discussing. Stop being a slave to Microsoft

I'll give you a tip, if you ever go to his house don't drink the kool-aid.

Dot Matrix said,
Notification center still seems highly redundant. That's what Live Tiles are for.

Here's an idea, if they do release a notification center don't use it, just stick to live tiles and let people who want to use it use it. I want a place where all notifications can be found as i miss plenty on live tiles. I will still use live tiles and yes i like them but they do have shortcomings that will be solved with a notification center.

think of it like this, you don't have to use it

Nazmus Shakib Khandaker said,

I am tired of people being blind fanboys. It's discussing. Stop being a slave to Microsoft

Huh? The apps I'm most concerned about are pinned to the top of my screen. The apps I don't care for aren't, and their notifications are turned off. Too many notifications, and you're suffering from information overload, plus extraneous data usage. I could guarantee that any one person here only has a *handful* of apps they truly care receiving notifications from.

Mine are the basics:
Social (People Hub/FB/Twitter)
News (Bing News)
Weather (Bing Weather/Weather Channel)
Messaging (Text Messages/Mail/Skype)

All these tiles easily fit on the first few rows of screen real estate.

Edited by Dot Matrix, Sep 11 2013, 10:47pm :

Dot Matrix said,
Notification center still seems highly redundant. That's what Live Tiles are for.

True, but the biggest complaint about WP has been feature and parity with iOS/Android. This is just another step in closing that gap. Now, all we need is Instagram for the non-believers.

Dot Matrix said,
Notification center still seems highly redundant. That's what Live Tiles are for.

Not if you do not want to pin all your apps to the start screen.
Besides what is wrong with offering options to satisfy as many people as possible?

M_Lyons10 said,

Based on what we're seeing so far, I would agree... I'm hoping this is not the full implementation, as it's severely lacking...

Absolutely, but at the same time, I think if they're doing a notification center, they should do it right. Just creating another live tile really isn't it...

True, it should be a swipe and be accessible from every open app, go back to the start menu and click the tile is counterintuitive.

Fritzly said,

Not if you do not want to pin all your apps to the start screen.
Besides what is wrong with offering options to satisfy as many people as possible?

Like I said above, how many people here have more than a handful of apps they want notifications for? Not every Windows Phone apps has notifications or even live tiles.

Dot Matrix said,

Like I said above, how many people here have more than a handful of apps they want notifications for? Not every Windows Phone apps has notifications or even live tiles.

Your experience with it is very subjective though, but even so. Are you against a unified notification area? Even if you do have a handful of apps, it beats hunting down which tile made the beep.

McKay said,

Your experience with it is very subjective though, but even so. Are you against a unified notification area? Even if you do have a handful of apps, it beats hunting down which tile made the beep.

No, but why waste time on such a trivial feature, when the dev tems could be working on other killer features?

Dot Matrix said,

Huh? The apps I'm most concerned about are pinned to the top of my screen. The apps I don't care for aren't, and their notifications are turned off. Too many notifications, and you're suffering from information overload, plus extraneous data usage. I could guarantee that any one person here only has a *handful* of apps they truly care receiving notifications from.

Mine are the basics:
Social (People Hub/FB/Twitter)
News (Bing News)
Weather (Bing Weather/Weather Channel)
Messaging (Text Messages/Mail/Skype)

All these tiles easily fit on the first few rows of screen real estate.

Just because you only use a few that pin to the top of your screen doesn't mean everyone does. And for most people to fit everything in the top they have to use the tiny tile size and then the live tiles aren't live anymore and just show a number.

Not only that, but a notification center is available system-wide and that panel can be used for quick toggles which are badly needed. Especially rotation lock which is being added in GDR3.

I don't know why you argue against it. It's a HUGE item on the "Cons" list for WP, especially for anyone considering switching from Android or iOS. It really is. Not only that, but they ARE PUTTING IT IN. Microsoft THEMSELVES thinks it's a good idea and you're a big MS fanboy yet don't agree with them?

This IS a killer feature and I'm really glad they're working on it but if it ends up being just a tile then I'll be disappointed.

Dot Matrix said,

Like I said above, how many people here have more than a handful of apps they want notifications for? Not every Windows Phone apps has notifications or even live tiles.


I would say enough if MS is going to add this functionality.....
Besides the advantage of the start screen is the ability to arrange tiles in the way that better fit each user; adding a notification center could allow them to unpin some tiles from it or reposition them, etc....
Windows got its market share because allows people to customize it any way they want.

rfirth said,

If you're not interested enough in the app to pin it to the start screen, you're probably not interested in the notifications it sends.

First off, you need to scroll through the home screen. Second (and most important), even if I have apps that I don't want to have pinned to my home screen, I still want to be able to get the occasional notification - for example a bill reminder app that might show me notifications once a month - I would never pin it to my home screen but I sure as hell would want to see that notification once a month.

Your logic is obviously flawed. Yes, some people have certain wants and needs but not everyone is equal and to have a successful piece of software it needs to be flexible enough to serve different people and different needs.

mrp04 said,

Just because you only use a few that pin to the top of your screen doesn't mean everyone does. And for most people to fit everything in the top they have to use the tiny tile size and then the live tiles aren't live anymore and just show a number.

Not only that, but a notification center is available system-wide and that panel can be used for quick toggles which are badly needed. Especially rotation lock which is being added in GDR3.

I don't know why you argue against it. It's a HUGE item on the "Cons" list for WP, especially for anyone considering switching from Android or iOS. It really is. Not only that, but they ARE PUTTING IT IN. Microsoft THEMSELVES thinks it's a good idea and you're a big MS fanboy yet don't agree with them?

This IS a killer feature and I'm really glad they're working on it but if it ends up being just a tile then I'll be disappointed.

The whole idea behind the live tiles was to eliminate the need for a notifications center. Apple/Google don't have interactive tiles, therefore have the need to display that information somewhere.

There is also no real way to implement one, since WP is already a highly gestured OS.

Dot Matrix said,

The whole idea behind the live tiles was to eliminate the need for a notifications center. Apple/Google don't have interactive tiles, therefore have the need to display that information somewhere.

There is also no real way to implement one, since WP is already a highly gestured OS.

Look, I want you to understand that the world doesn't revolve around you. You have to realize that when most people is asking for a notification center, there is a genuine need. If live tiles where truly enough (which they aren't), no one would be complaining! Just because YOU don't need it, you shouldn't say that it is useless feature.

Second of all. I want to let you know that I am a HUGE Microsoft fan. I love Windows and I love Microsoft services. But even I look at things realistically and accept issues with both Microsoft products and services. I have NEVER, I mean NEVER, saw you being critical of anything by Microsoft (except maybe totally failed products like the Kin). I mean come on. I like MS, but I am NOT a slave to MS. I WILL NOT ignore things that MS lacks.

I am grateful for Microsoft, but I try to understand that REAL issues of MS products. For instance, I understand that Windows 8 is a mess (I might not mind it, but most does). I urge you to not be a slave to Microsoft.

Nazmus Shakib Khandaker said,

Look, I want you to understand that the world doesn't revolve around you. You have to realize that when most people is asking for a notification center, there is a genuine need. If live tiles where truly enough (which they aren't), no one would be complaining! Just because YOU don't need it, you shouldn't say that it is useless feature.

Second of all. I want to let you know that I am a HUGE Microsoft fan. I love Windows and I love Microsoft services. But even I look at things realistically and accept issues with both Microsoft products and services. I have NEVER, I mean NEVER, saw you being critical of anything by Microsoft (except maybe totally failed products like the Kin). I mean come on. I like MS, but I am NOT a slave to MS. I WILL NOT ignore things that MS lacks.

I am grateful for Microsoft, but I try to understand that REAL issues of MS products. For instance, I understand that Windows 8 is a mess (I might not mind it, but most does). I urge you to not be a slave to Microsoft.

I *really* don't appreciate being called a damn slave. I'm simply stating that Notification Center functionality has been included in the OS since day 1. Anything extra is simply redundant. I like Windows Phone because of the fact it's not a cluttered and overloaded OS like Android is.

Edited by Dot Matrix, Sep 12 2013, 3:17am :

Dot Matrix said,

I *really* don't appreciate being called a damn slave. I'm simply stating that Notification Center functionality has been included in the OS since day 1. Anything extra is simply redundant. I like Windows Phone because of the fact it's not a cluttered and overloaded OS like Android is.

The notification functionality in WP is EXTREMELY LACKING. If it wasn't, then why would MICROSOFT be making a notification center that DOESN'T SUCK?

Live tiles are fine if everything you like can be pinned to the top. That's a total of 8 medium-sized tiles. I need more than that. If I make things tiny then it's just a number indicator which is nowhere near the functionality of a notification center. You can't see a preview or dismiss the notification until you open the app. You can't access your notifications from anywhere in the OS. I have to return to the home screen. Then when I want to go back I'll be greeted with "Resuming..." for a while depending on the app. I can't quickly toggle settings. I can't dismiss notifications. I can't do quick actions. Live Tiles are great, but they're NOT mutually exclusive with a notification center. They're just NOT.

If you really don't like that extra functionality then here's a good idea: don't use the notification center. If they implement it as a silly tile then unpin it. If they implement it like Android and iOS (which is what they should do) then simply don't slide down from the top of your screen and you won't see it. You can continue to use lacking live tiles. Except when it is rolled out (and your phone FINALLY receives it after Microsoft certifies it, the OEM certifies it, and then your carrier holds it hostage for 2 months) you will end up using it because it's just better.

Dot Matrix said,

I *really* don't appreciate being called a damn slave. I'm simply stating that Notification Center functionality has been included in the OS since day 1. Anything extra is simply redundant. I like Windows Phone because of the fact it's not a cluttered and overloaded OS like Android is.

Ohhhh you actually believe live tiles are better than a notification center. Boy this is awkward...

Kalint said,

Ohhhh you actually believe live tiles are better than a notification center. Boy this is awkward...

He is showing no sign of understanding that others have different needs. I would have amore open mind and be more understanding of others needs.

Nazmus Shakib Khandaker said,

He is showing no sign of understanding that others have different needs. I would have amore open mind and be more understanding of others needs.

No... It's because he is something that starts with the letter s and ends with hill.

Kalint said,

No... It's because he is something that starts with the letter s and ends with hill.

No he's not, he's simply a fanboy and not a very good one. Why would a Microsoft shill be arguing against a feature that they're hard at work implementing? Doesn't make sense.

Island Dog said,
Notification center is something needed long ago in Windows Phone. Lets hope they get it right.

I've never owned a device with one, so what do you think it should be like?

I'm hoping it's like the iPhones (more for displaying multiple emails on the lock screen. It sucks being on call and not knowing when a message comes in like how the iPhone can be set up to do and lights up. And I'm not talking about audible alerts.) Very little customization here....

Chikairo said,

I've never owned a device with one, so what do you think it should be like?

Take a look at the latest Android one, it's EXTREMELY powerful. Can be accessed from anywhere in the OS, has quick toggles for wifi, bluetooth, rotation, hotspot, flashlight, etc. You can see notifications from each app and the notification can contain text and action buttons. Individual notifications can be dismissed by swiping them away or you can clear all notification by pressing a clear all button. Notifications can even be zoomed in on by making the pinch/unpinch gesture to get more or less options. It's perfect. I really badly want that for my WP.

When I got my Android phone (only had iPhones before), that's what impressed me the most: JellyBean Notifications Center. It's very powerful and useful. Couldn't live without it now