iPhone 4 sales still solid ahead of iPhone 5

It's a smartphone that's over a year old and a new version is just a few weeks away from being released (we think). But Apple's iPhone 4 continues to sell well very well at its two US outlets, Verizon and AT&T, even with those two factors in place. AllthingsD.com reports that in a note to investors today, Stern Agee analyst Shaw Wu said, "We had modeled a sizeable quarter-to-quarter decline to reflect a pause and inventory drawdown ahead of a refresh and we now think this is conservative."

Another analyst, Canaccord Genuit's T. Michael Walkley, agrees, saying, "Our checks indicated strong sales of the iPhone 4, as it remained the top selling smartphone at AT&T and Verizon despite increasing consumer expectations for the iPhone 5 launch." Indeed, AT&T still manages to sell units of the iPhone 3GS, a smartphone that is now over two years old.

So why is the public so interested in buying the iPhone 4 despite its age and the imminent launch of the iPhone 5?? One reason is simply that Apple's smartphone is still perceived by the public to have a better design and better features than any other smartphone, even though there are plenty of rival devices that have more advanced features. Another reason might be iTunes which is integrated tightly into the iPhone, offering a one stop shop for downloading apps, movies, TV shows, music, podcasts and books.

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So why is the public so interested in buying the iPhone 4 despite its age and the imminent launch of the iPhone 5??

Because most people who want iPhones don't follow tech news/blog sites...

My girlfriend's son wants to blow his money right now on a B&N Nook Color. I've explained to him that a new Nook Color is probably right around the corner and Amazon might even have a decent Kindle Color tablet device by Christmas. He really just doesn't want to wait. That's how most people are.

Melfster said,
Whats crazy is some samsung galaxy 2 is going to outsell the iphone. I just don't see that happening.

Doubt it will happen. And who/where is this being said? Just curious.

Melfster said,
Whats crazy is some samsung galaxy 2 is going to outsell the iphone. I just don't see that happening.

Its pretty common knowledge that even though Android as a platform is selling much better than iOS, iPhone is outselling all other single smartphone handsets. Not sure where you are getting this idea that the Samsung Galaxy 2 will outsell the iPhone.

Shadrack said,

Its pretty common knowledge that even though Android as a platform is selling much better than iOS, iPhone is outselling all other single smartphone handsets. Not sure where you are getting this idea that the Samsung Galaxy 2 will outsell the iPhone.

Well the Thunderbolt was outselling the Verizon iPhone 4. So if he is just simply labeling that the GS2 is outselling the iPhone is quite believable. You see the GS2 come in many variants across the countries and network providers just like the iPhone. So I don't doubt especially here in the US where 4G phones is what a lot of people want.

at this point, I just think it would be funny if Apple came out and said there is no iPhone 5 device, just an iPhone 4 running iOS5... no new hardware...

Stewart Gilligan Griffin said,
at this point, I just think it would be funny if Apple came out and said there is no iPhone 5 device, just an iPhone 4 running iOS5... no new hardware...

Would be funny an fine by me. I'm due an upgrade by the end of may 2012. As long as there's a new phone out by then I'm happy with that

DomZ said,
Strangely enough a guy in work upgraded from his 3GS to a 4 today, despite knowing a 5 is due out.
He'll only feel bad, in a month or so.

All I can think of anymore whenever I see or hear, "iPhone 4" is a stupid bear repeating "I want an iPhone 4," over and over, followed by, "I don't care. I don't care. I don't care."

I got into a huge fight at a local phone shop the other day. A sales guy tried selling an iPhone 4 to a girl there and I was waiting in line behind her. When she asked if we could expect a new iPhone in the upcoming few months the sales guy flat out said "no". A bit too quick if you'd ask me leading me to believe he knew about the rumors. Long story short, I stepped in and told the girl a refresh is most likely due in October. She then decided not to make the purchase getting the both of us in a fight with the sales guy.

.Neo said,
I got into a huge fight at a local phone shop the other day. A sales guy tried selling an iPhone 4 to a girl there and I was waiting in line behind her. When she asked if we could expect a new iPhone in the upcoming few months the sales guy flat out said "no". A bit too quick if you'd ask me leading me to believe he knew about the rumors. Long story short, I stepped in and told the girl a refresh is most likely due in October. She then decided not to make the purchase getting the both of us in a fight with the sales guy.


.Neo said,
I got into a huge fight at a local phone shop the other day. A sales guy tried selling an iPhone 4 to a girl there and I was waiting in line behind her. When she asked if we could expect a new iPhone in the upcoming few months the sales guy flat out said "no". A bit too quick if you'd ask me leading me to believe he knew about the rumors. Long story short, I stepped in and told the girl a refresh is most likely due in October. She then decided not to make the purchase getting the both of us in a fight with the sales guy.

Who cares if the answer was quick. Maybe the guy was asked that question so many times that he was getting sick of it. Seems a silly thing to get in a fight over. And yes, I know Apple's refresh schedule.

Now, if the clerk said that he hasnt heard anything on the i5...then yea, I would of called him a moron and been with ya.

jesseinsf said,

Shut up....Just shut your fanboy hole. Yes is as easy to say as no is. In this case "No" is easier because the loss of sales. Anyway, you are pathetic.

Wow, testy arnt you? Did I say not to buy an Apply product? No, I did not so please explain to me how that is a fanboy comment. I just stated it was a silly thing to fight over, and again. I made no mention of not buying an Apple product nor did I say anything negative or against the company. And read the OP. People are still buying hte 3gs so it will not hurt sales at all. People will buy what they want when they want regardless if it is 2yrs old or not.

Chill out dude, geesh.

techbeck said,
Who cares if the answer was quick. Maybe the guy was asked that question so many times that he was getting sick of it. Seems a silly thing to get in a fight over. And yes, I know Apple's refresh schedule.

Now, if the clerk said that he hasnt heard anything on the i5...then yea, I would of called him a moron and been with ya.


FYI, he did claim there was nothing to report on the next iPhone. Also, the guy behind the counter became all red and started yelling to me I should mind my own business when he lost his sale. The girl and I walked away laughing. Beyond that, I couldn't care less about you being with me or not really...

.Neo said,

FYI, he did claim there was nothing to report on the next iPhone. Also, the guy behind the counter became all red and started yelling to me I should mind my own business when he lost his sale. The girl and I walked away laughing. Beyond that, I couldn't care less about you being with me or not really....

Well, you didnt say that. And I would of went one step further and got the guy in trouble if he was being rude to me.

And I will express my opinion whether you care or not.

techbeck said,

Well, you didnt say that.


Have fun ****ing all over other short anecdotes that are supposed to be a bit of fun if that makes you feel better. And who was arguing here? I'm just clarifying my story after that sour response of yours.

.Neo said,

Have fun ****ing all over other short anecdotes that are supposed to be a bit of fun if that makes you feel better.

I will. /s

And I didnt mess up anything. Expressing my opinion. Dont like it, dont reply.

techbeck said,

I will. /s

And I didnt mess up anything. Expressing my opinion. Dont like it, dont reply.


Don't know how to respond lighthearted to an anecdote, don't reply.

.Neo said,

Don't know how to respond lighthearted to an anecdote, don't reply.

I was not being rude in my comment. Expressing my opinion and I can reply if I want if I am following the guidelines and rules. Just like you can. See how that works?

techbeck said,

I was not being rude in my comment. Expressing my opinion and I can reply if I want if I am following the guidelines and rules. Just like you can. See how that works?


Yet you are telling me not to reply. See how that's in conflict? When I don't "like" your opinion, I can reply all the same since I'm allowed to by the guidelines and rules. You could have formulated your initial reply in a totally different and more friendly/lighthearted manner, too bad you didn't.

.Neo said,

Yet you are telling me not to reply. See how that's in conflict? You could have formulated your initial reply in a totally different and more friendly/lighthearted manner, too bad you didn't.

And you could of included the whole story in your original post as well. I was just going off of what you said and then later on you posted the whole story.

Must be a Monday thing today....time to move on.

techbeck said,

And you could of included the whole story in your original post as well. I was just going off of what you said and then later on you posted the whole story.

Must be a Monday thing today....time to move on.


Apparently you just don't get the idea behind a short anecdote and seem to require a full transcript of the conversation that took place. Such a shame...

.Neo said,

Apparently you still don't understand the idea behind a short anecdote and seem to require a full transcript of the conversation that took place. Such a shame...

Oh please, include the whole story next time..

And if it makes you feel better and will stop the silliness, then I apologize if I offended you, upset you, or made you feel the least bit annoyed.

techbeck said,

Wow, testy arnt you? Did I say not to buy an Apply product? No, I did not so please explain to me how that is a fanboy comment. I just stated it was a silly thing to fight over, and again. I made no mention of not buying an Apple product nor did I say anything negative or against the company. And read the OP. People are still buying hte 3gs so it will not hurt sales at all. People will buy what they want when they want regardless if it is 2yrs old or not.

Chill out dude, geesh.


The girl spacifically want to know if a new version was coming out soon. He said "NO".These days you can't trust a sales person in mid-retail. If he said yes to her question then he probably would have lost a sale because it is clear that she wanted the latest and greatest and not old s**t.

techbeck said,

Oh please, include the whole story next time.


It's absolutely astonishing really, you still don't seem to understand, or want to understand for that matter,what a quick anecdote is all about and are still completely incapable of reacting lighthearted to it. Learn to take some things with a grain of salt.

jesseinsf said,

Shut up....Just shut your fanboy hole. Yes is as easy to say as no is. In this case "No" is easier because the loss of sales. Anyway, you are pathetic.

WOW! No coffee today? Nicotine?

Anyway the guy is an idiot. My response would have been most likely but nobody knows for sure the exact date. But if the customer is asking, she should have done her research first. You can't expect a salesperson to tell you the truth all the time.

jesseinsf said,

The girl spacifically want to know if a new version was coming out soon. He said "NO".These days you can't trust a sales person in mid-retail. If he said yes to her question then he probably would have lost a sale because it is clear that she wanted the latest and greatest and not old s**t.

Yea, whatever. Your first response to mind was plane stupid and it obvious you have no self control. So I am not going to bother even talking to you anymore. Obvious you are an unstable and angry person

.Neo said,

It's absolutely astonishing really, you still don't seem to understand, or want to understand for that matter,what a quick anecdote is all about and are still completely incapable of reacting lighthearted to it. Learn to take some things with a grain of salt.

I was not over reacting and just giving what I thought on your half stated post. If you dont like what I have to say...they that is really your problem, not mind.

It's absolutely astonishing that you are continuing to talk about this after I apologized for causing you any grief. I am done and really dude, get over yourself.