iPhone 4S pre-orders top one million in 24 Hours

While it may have looked like the iPhone 4S was going to be met with mediocre sales, Apple has announced that the they have sold 1 million iPhone 4S devices in the first 24 hours.

The announcement that they have moved this many units in such a short time period is a bit surprising considering the ho-hum reaction it received. But, it is hard to argue with the facts and considering that they moved 1 million units in the first 24 hours speaks volume about how popular the device is with the general consumer.

The bigger surprise is that the iPhone 4S topped that of even the iPhone 4, which had 600k pre-orders in the first 24 hours. Apple states:

Apple today announced pre-orders of its iPhone® 4S have topped one million in a single day, surpassing the previous single day pre-order record of 600,000 held by iPhone 4. iPhone 4S is the most amazing iPhone yet, packed with incredible new features including Apple’s dual-core A5 chip for blazing fast performance and stunning graphics; an all new camera with advanced optics; full 1080p HD resolution video recording; and Siri™, an intelligent assistant that helps you get things done just by asking.

The iPhone 4S came approximately 18 months after the release of the iPhone 4. With improved internals and Siri, it would look like Apple has another blockbuster device on its hands.
 

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....and in 5 months 2 million people have preordered iPhone 5. Phone is overrated, people will buy anything that has an "i" in front of it even if it's overpriced.

It wouldn't surprise me coming from Apple if these figures were merely the number "sold" to stores and carriers, not to end users.

TCLN Ryster said,
It wouldn't surprise me coming from Apple if these figures were merely the number "sold" to stores and carriers, not to end users.

Nope these are actual pre-orders by customers. Apple never talks about "shipped" numbers, only sales.

TCLN Ryster said,
It wouldn't surprise me coming from Apple if these figures were merely the number "sold" to stores and carriers, not to end users.
Actually, like KingCrimson said, Apple's "shipped" and "sold" numbers line up pretty damn well, unlike most other manufacturers (I'm looking at you, Samsung).

KingCrimson said,

Nope these are actual pre-orders by customers. Apple never talks about "shipped" numbers, only sales.


Fair enough then.

Although most Apple Fans are true fans, as in fanatics. It stands to reason most of the diehards would get the phone on day one. The true test will be to see how well it continues to sell after launch. Personally I don't think it's a big enough step to warrant upgrading from the iPhone 4. And those that are on the 3GS or earlier, are clearly not that bothered about the latest and greatest anyway.

Add two more. Upgrading me and my wife from the 3GS.

Jedimark, it's not a minor update to the 4. It's a pretty big upgrade internally. Yes the external look is identical, but that's okay.

Those on the "S" cycle get the new and improved (and fixed) version of the newest model.

jafoman said,
Add two more. Upgrading me and my wife from the 3GS.

Jedimark, it's not a minor update to the 4. It's a pretty big upgrade internally. Yes the external look is identical, but that's okay.

Those on the "S" cycle get the new and improved (and fixed) version of the newest model.

A lot of people bought into the rumor mill claiming this would be TEH GREATZ END PURRFICT AY-FONE FAIIIIV!!! Meanwhile, Apple did things their way and gave us the S-cycle upgrade people should've expected. It's essentially the iPhone 4 done even better, the same way the iPhone 3GS was the iPhone 3G improved.

Alot of people who had the 3GS and were locked in 18-24 month contracts when the 4 came out will now be eligable to upgrade despite perhaps the general feeling of disapointment that it's only a minor update.

Why does anyone act surprised? There exist a few million people who must have every new iDevice at the time of release. It's only after that group has obeyed their compulsion that the sales numbers become impressive.

smot said,
Why does anyone act surprised? There exist a few million people who must have every new iDevice at the time of release. It's only after that group has obeyed their compulsion that the sales numbers become impressive.

Apple has already sold 70 million iPhones? How many more idiots are there?

No disrespect intended towards Steve Jobs, but with him out of the picture, hoping to see Flash a little bigger screen, and even something like Swype come to the device eventually.

I wish they would bring the audio feature to the iOS. Sad it needs a gig of ram, or so i heard? I would love to set alarms with my voice.

warwagon said,
I wish they would bring the audio feature to the iOS. Sad it needs a gig of ram, or so i heard?

You mean Siri? I don't think it needs that much RAM; I think it's just Apple keeping it as an exclusive feature for the latest model.

I find the bandwagon Apple hate almost as entertaining as actual Apple products! So many people here love to jump on Apple's products. Not new hardware? Not new features? If you've actually used something made by Apple for more than a few minutes, you'd see what all the fuss was about.

This isn't the 1990s Apple.

Xenomorph said,
If you've actually used something made by Apple for more than a few minutes, you'd see what all the fuss was about.

This isn't the 1990s Apple.

Android sales/market share would disagree with you. I also know many people who went from Apple to Android and couldnt be happier. I have also used many Apple products for more than a few minutes and I still prefer other products. For me its about getting and doing more for my money.

why would people go nuts for a 4S when there are already superior driods available? ah well i guess some people just dont know - like those dopes that buy american made cars ;-)

the420kid said,
why would people go nuts for a 4S when there are already superior driods available? ah well i guess some people just dont know - like those dopes that buy american made cars ;-)

Yea, Ford is one of the best car companies.

And there are people that wonder why anyone would want an Android phone when WP7 is way more refined.

Oh I know, because it does what they want.

the420kid said,
why would people go nuts for a 4S when there are already superior driods available? ah well i guess some people just dont know - like those dopes that buy american made cars ;-)

Cause Android sucks?

FMH said,
Okay, it's doing well so far!


But I really really don't understand how it would stand any chance against the likes of Nexus Prime and Pantech Vega!

http://www.engadget.com/2011/1...uth-korea-dual-core-1-5ghz/

Will the Pantech Vega even make its way to the US?

As for the Nexus Prime, Google does a great job of killing off Nexus devices all on its own. Google doesn't advertise them well, and the carriers don't advertise them because they can't load their junk on them or restrict their upgrades.

But both of those points aside, the iPhone 4S can still hold its own. I think people are getting too tied up in MHz (like they were back in the Pentium 4 days).

FMH said,
But I really really don't understand how it would stand any chance against the likes of Nexus Prime and Pantech Vega!

Don't worry, I'm sure the iPhone 4S will do well. Joe Public doesn't care about an extra 0.5Ghz. Furthermore, there's more to a smartphone/tablet/computer than just raw specs; not that the 4S is severely underpowered compared to its rivals. (Also, a 4.5" screen is just overkill. For me and my normal-sized hands anyway.)

I'm trying to figure out what people actually wanted from the new iPhone. It may be in a similar case, but it's internal components are much improved over the iPhone 4.

LTE phones aren't ready for the mass market yet (which is the market the iPhone targets), with their low battery life and limited coverage of LTE itself.

I think people are forgetting that the increased numbers is because of Sprint getting the iPhone now. That's a huge amount of added customers.

I'm with Sprint and I've been personally holding out for the iPhone ever since the first rumor of Sprint getting it came out. I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of other people did the same.

I thought that was part of the reasoning too. I had a few of my friends currently with the EVO variants and asked about getting the iPhone. I wont say Sprint alone packed on 400K upgrades but Verizon being one as well for all the people that couldn't do upgrades in February because they just got some droid less than 1yr ago.

That plus aren't they doing 29 carriers at launch in 15 countries this time vs 15 carriers in 5 countries? - I don't see this saying ONLY US preorders or was preorders only available in the USA?

SHoTTa35 said,
That plus aren't they doing 29 carriers at launch in 15 countries this time vs 15 carriers in 5 countries? - I don't see this saying ONLY US preorders or was preorders only available in the USA?
7 countries at launch. It'll be available in the 22 other countries by the end of October.

And this is just more proof that the consumer will buy anything with an Apple logo on, regardless of if it's a good product or not.

Tom said,
And this is just more proof that the consumer will buy anything with an Apple logo on, regardless of if it's a good product or not.

How is it not a "good product" though? Has one of the best cameras in any phone, has a top notch processor that has been proven in the Ipad2, has one of the best app stores and is probably the most supported phone (3rd party) due to its popularity. I def understand the whole isheep thing but the iphone is a proven device. (Owner of a Droid X and am doubtful I will ever leave android based phones)

And this just proves that the definition of "good product" differs from person to person.
Just because it may not suite your needs doesn't mean it won't others.

jerzdawg said,

How is it not a "good product" though? Has one of the best cameras in any phone, has a top notch processor that has been proven in the Ipad2, has one of the best app stores and is probably the most supported phone (3rd party) due to its popularity. I def understand the whole isheep thing but the iphone is a proven device. (Owner of a Droid X and am doubtful I will ever leave android based phones)
Because it doesn't have a screen the size of the space shuttle! I swear, WP7 and Android manufacturers are just in a ****ing contest over screen size nowadays. "My penis...erm, screen is bigger than your screen!"

Elliott said,
Because it doesn't have a screen the size of the space shuttle! I swear, WP7 and Android manufacturers are just in a ****ing contest over screen size nowadays. "My penis...erm, screen is bigger than your screen!"

Its not about a ****ing contest at all. There are just more choices when you go with WP7 or Android and thats what attracts people the most. And I never ran in to anyone comparing and bragging that their screen size is bigger than someone elses.

Personally, I have big hands and like having at least a 4" screen. I had a 3.5" android phone years ago and just didnt work well for me. Not everyone has small hands.

techbeck said,
There are just more choices when you go with WP7 or Android and thats what attracts people the most.
Actually, low cost and good user experience is what attracts people. Choice/competition just tends to lead to that.

techbeck said,
And I never ran in to anyone comparing and bragging that their screen size is bigger than someone elses.
That mock quote was the manufacturers talking, not the users.

techbeck said,
Personally, I have big hands and like having at least a 4" screen. I had a 3.5" android phone years ago and just didnt work well for me. Not everyone has small hands.
However, it's become a race to the biggest. If you want a phone that has a best-in-class CPU and good features, you almost certainly have to get a > 4" screen now (which is personally too big for me). What good is choice if everybody's just copying each other's spec sheets?

Elliott said,
Because it doesn't have a screen the size of the space shuttle! I swear, WP7 and Android manufacturers are just in a ****ing contest over screen size nowadays. "My penis...erm, screen is bigger than your screen!"

While I agree the huge screens are a bit much, it's nice to have the option for the people who want them. Personally, I like 4" screens.

Elliott said,

That mock quote was the manufacturers talking, not the users.

However, it's become a race to the biggest. If you want a phone that has a best-in-class CPU and good features, you almost certainly have to get a > 4" screen now (which is personally too big for me). What good is choice if everybody's just copying each other's spec sheets?

You're making to big a deal about screen size. Its more about competition than anything. In the Android world, they release similar specs and designs to compete against one another. Have to remember that Androids have many diff manufacturers to compete against. Only one company makes an iPhone so if you want to buy an iPhone, you have one place to go. If you want an Android, you need to be able to offer similar specs to compete as well as provide something that the customer wants more than another device.

And people want a 4" screen and it has been proven with a LOT of iphone users complaining that the iPhone doesnt have a bigger screen. So if more people want a 4" screen, makes sense to produce more 4" screens than smaller ones. And newer best-in-class hardware comes out with newer phones and does not rely on screen size.

Tom said,
And this is just more proof that the consumer will buy anything with an Apple logo on, regardless of if it's a good product or not.

Do you honestly consider an iPhone 4S a poor product??

It may not be the best in your opinion and your needs, but I see no special competition in speed, camera speed, optics, app market, and the AI with Siri. And yes, Siri is more than a dictation app...

Seriously. This ridiculous hyperbole with highly advanced products being considered "look, they buy anything with Apple logos, haha lolz" is at least as bad as something coming from a hardcore Apple fan. You don't even argue for your opinion, you just post something ridiculous that you need to get off your chest. You're just as bad.

techbeck said,

You're making to big a deal about screen size. Its more about competition than anything. In the Android world, they release similar specs and designs to compete against one another. Have to remember that Androids have many diff manufacturers to compete against. Only one company makes an iPhone so if you want to buy an iPhone, you have one place to go. If you want an Android, you need to be able to offer similar specs to compete as well as provide something that the customer wants more than another device.

And people want a 4" screen and it has been proven with a LOT of iphone users complaining that the iPhone doesnt have a bigger screen. So if more people want a 4" screen, makes sense to produce more 4" screens than smaller ones. And newer best-in-class hardware comes out with newer phones and does not rely on screen size.

Screen size has become one of the defining factors of Android/WP7 spec sheets, so yes, I'm making a big deal about screen size. You brought up choice, so I brought up the fact that a 4" screen is too big for me. There isn't a single Android phone that I know of nowadays that has best-in-class hardware with a screen smaller than 4".

The problem here is equating choice and competition. They're not the same. In a way, competition between vendors has removed choices for the consumer.

Elliott said,
There isn't a single Android phone that I know of nowadays that has best-in-class hardware with a screen smaller than 4".

And why is that a big deal?

In a way, competition between vendors has removed choices for the consumer.

In a small way, but there are difference choices when going from Motorola, HTC, Samsung. I still know lots of people who prefer a physical KB over the touch. Then you have 3d (which is useless IMO but some like) and many other difference choices.

techbeck said,
And why is that a big deal?

I, personally, find 4-inch simply too big in many cases; it just doesn't feel comfortable anymore in my pocket. Those 4,7-inch tablet/smartphone crossbreeds are especially insane.

techbeck said,
And why is that a big deal?
As a person that uses a phone with one hand frequently and has average sized hands, 4" is too big for my thumb to extend to any point on the screen.

.Neo said,

I, personally, find 4-inch simply too big in many cases; it just doesn't feel comfortable anymore in my pocket. Those 4,7-inch tablet/smartphone crossbreeds are especially insane.

Yea, 4.7 is getting crazy, I agree. But my 4" screen fits fine in my pocket. Now if it was bulky/thick...then that would be an issue.

Elliott said,
As a person that uses a phone with one hand frequently and has average sized hands, 4" is too big for my thumb to extend to any point on the screen.

So then its the same thing. Some people, iPhone is to small for their hands...and some people, Android is to big. So you enjoy your iPhone, and I will enjoy my Android.

.Neo said,

I, personally, find 4-inch simply too big in many cases; it just doesn't feel comfortable anymore in my pocket. Those 4,7-inch tablet/smartphone crossbreeds are especially insane.

I agree with this. I don't want to carry around a purse (i mean European carry-all) for my phone.

Shadrack said,

I agree with this.


I agree too. Anything above 4" is just oversized for me. (Note: talking about just phones here.)

I always wonder why people are so drawn to apple. The technology used in their products is not new. There is no true 4g lte models. Apple is always late to the game. I know most of my friends ditched the iphone a long time ago. They all use android. I myself have never one an apple product and never will. They are always overpriced and such a waste of money. That is just my opinion.

jznomoney said,
I always wonder why people are so drawn to apple. The technology used in their products is not new. There is no true 4g lte models. Apple is always late to the game. I know most of my friends ditched the iphone a long time ago. They all use android. I myself have never one an apple product and never will. They are always overpriced and such a waste of money. That is just my opinion.

And you will never know why unless you give it a chance yourself. Call it overpriced, but when it comes to quality and reliability, Apple tops almost every survey taken in the past 8 or so years.

I was part of the "will never purchase an Apple" product bandwagon for years, and I worked for a wireless carrier for 2 years and was given an iPhone 3G as a demo, since then I have bought every iPhone released since, and now own a MacBook Pro.

Its your loss more than anything, because you can't deny that Apple makes products that "just work".

TokyoKiller said,

And you will never know why unless you give it a chance yourself. Call it overpriced, but when it comes to quality and reliability, Apple tops almost every survey taken in the past 8 or so years.

I was part of the "will never purchase an Apple" product bandwagon for years, and I worked for a wireless carrier for 2 years and was given an iPhone 3G as a demo, since then I have bought every iPhone released since, and now own a MacBook Pro.

Its your loss more than anything, because you can't deny that Apple makes products that "just work".

And some people say crack is great to...tho I will never try it.

And just work? Dont get me started on that because thats how Apple used to be. Now there are more and more problems with what they are producing because they are growing bug to fast. Their RnD is suffering because of it.

And people who dont use Apple products are not missing much. Its all about preference and what they want to do with a phone. I have used an iPhone several times but will never buy one for myself. I dont like Apple's control on all their products and who they are as a company.

And a lot of people buy Apple products because of Apple and the logo. Not because they actually know what they are getting/buying. Having an Apple product is a status symbol and I have asked many people why they are getting an Apple product. Their response is "because its cool" which IMO, isnt a good reason to buy anything.

jznomoney said,
I always wonder why people are so drawn to apple. The technology used in their products is not new. There is no true 4g lte models. Apple is always late to the game. I know most of my friends ditched the iphone a long time ago. They all use android. I myself have never one an apple product and never will. They are always overpriced and such a waste of money. That is just my opinion.

There are things more important than specs: usability, design and apps for instance. And as you have said, it's just a matter of opinion. I've been using PC for 10 years, been upgrading to every single versions of Windows, from Longhorn builds to early Windows 7 beta builds. Yet I fell in love with Mac after trying out for one day. Now I can't really go back to PC anymore. In the end, it's personal satisfaction that matters

techbeck said,
Having an Apple product is a status symbol and I have asked many people why they are getting an Apple product. Their response is "because its cool" which IMO, isnt a good reason to buy anything.

You really need to ask yourself why they consider it's "cool". Products don't become "cool" by random chance. Few companies rise to the top like Apple do. The appeal lies in my opinion in that they aren't bloated by third party apps like some Android handset from Samsung (much like Windows installs from Dell are), and in the quality. I don't really see any quality issues that you're talking of, and hear much more problems with e.g. HTC in that case.

Northgrove said,

You really need to ask yourself why they consider it's "cool".

Oh, I do. I ask them why they think it is cool and they cant give me an answer. Buying something because its cool and not knowing anything about the product is just plain stupid.

Elliott said,
But...the phone is so disappointing! It doesn't even have a 7" Super AMOLED Plus Maxi screen!

It is disappointing...to a lot of people. Why I want to see the iPhone 3 upgrades as compared to people upgrading from an iPhone 4. If more are going from a 4 to a 4s, thats just plain stupid IMO. Not enough differences to justify going from a 4 to a 4s IMO.

techbeck said,

It is disappointing...to a lot of people. Why I want to see the iPhone 3 upgrades as compared to people upgrading from an iPhone 4. If more are going from a 4 to a 4s, thats just plain stupid IMO. Not enough differences to justify going from a 4 to a 4s IMO.

Whilst I somewhat agree, I see no point holding on to an old phone if you're due an upgrade. People, including myself, can sell their iPhone 4 and use the money not only to purchase a new handset on their renewed contract, but use the extra money to pay for some of the new contract.

richardsim7 said,

Whilst I somewhat agree, I see no point holding on to an old phone if you're due an upgrade. People, including myself, can sell their iPhone 4 and use the money not only to purchase a new handset on their renewed contract, but use the extra money to pay for some of the new contract.

With the way the economy is going in the world, people need to be smarter with their money. So people should really think about spending more money on something when what they have suits them just fine. Gets people in trouble.

I always think before I buy something if I am going to use it to its potential and if I really need it. Over the past several years, it has saved me lots of money. I dont need to save the money, but I see no reason to upgrade to something with little differences. Still have a single core Android phone with 3g. Works great, suits my needs, and is fast with no lag. Would I like something better? Sure I would and I will upgrade as soon as I find a reason to do so.

Besides a few minor changes with the iPhone 4s hardware...all other upgrades can be done on most older iPhones with a software update.

techbeck said,
It is disappointing...to a lot of people. Why I want to see the iPhone 3 upgrades as compared to people upgrading from an iPhone 4. If more are going from a 4 to a 4s, thats just plain stupid IMO. Not enough differences to justify going from a 4 to a 4s IMO.
I'm upgrading from an iPhone 4 to an iPhone 4S. The A5 processor, greatly improved camera, HSDPA+, and Siri are more than enough for me to justify $199.

richardsim7 said,

Whilst I somewhat agree, I see no point holding on to an old phone if you're due an upgrade. People, including myself, can sell their iPhone 4 and use the money not only to purchase a new handset on their renewed contract, but use the extra money to pay for some of the new contract.

You don't "have" to upgrade though, you could move to a Sim only contract and save yourself a heap of money.

After a 2 year contract for an iPhone it works out about £950 to £1100 on any package regardless or your minutes/text/data/handset price combination.

Sim only you can get 500+mins,texts,data for about £10 a month. Over the next two years saving £700+


Elliott said,
I'm upgrading from an iPhone 4 to an iPhone 4S. The A5 processor, greatly improved camera, HSDPA+, and Siri are more than enough for me to justify $199.

$199 O_o? Did you mean $649 - $849? Or maybe you just like that $2500+ 2-year contract?

RealFduch said,
$199 O_o? Did you mean $649 - $849? Or maybe you just like that $2500+ 2-year contract?
You mean the contract I'd be paying for anyway?

techbeck said,

It is disappointing...to a lot of people.

And apparently it's not disappointing to many as well.

Elliott said,
I'm upgrading from an iPhone 4 to an iPhone 4S. The A5 processor, greatly improved camera, HSDPA+, and Siri are more than enough for me to justify $199.

How are you getting it for $199...? It's going to be significantly more than that considering you are buying off contract.

Elliott said,
But...the phone is so disappointing! It doesn't even have a 7" Super AMOLED Plus Maxi screen!

You forgot the 3D dual-screen part...

DukeEsquire said,
How are you getting it for $199...? It's going to be significantly more than that considering you are buying off contract.
Apparently, AT&T or Apple forgot to actually extend my contract when I purchased my iPhone 4, so...

If they hadn't, I would've had to wait a few weeks, but I'd still upgrade eventually.

lt8480 said,

You don't "have" to upgrade though, you could move to a Sim only contract and save yourself a heap of money.

After a 2 year contract for an iPhone it works out about £950 to £1100 on any package regardless or your minutes/text/data/handset price combination.

Sim only you can get 500+mins,texts,data for about £10 a month. Over the next two years saving £700+


Not in the US. In the US plans cost the same regardless of phone subsidization status.

Shadrack said,
Not in the US. In the US plans cost the same regardless of phone subsidization status.
Exactly. There's really no choice in the matter, so there's no downside to getting a subsidized phone. The only problem with going on contract is that you can't switch carriers on a whim.

Elliott said,
Exactly. There's really no choice in the matter, so there's no downside to getting a subsidized phone. The only problem with going on contract is that you can't switch carriers on a whim.

That's crazy. In the UK you can buy just a sim on contract for say £10... the same contract with an iPhone would perhaps cost £30 - £40 a month... with a "free phone".

techbeck said,

It is disappointing...to a lot of people. Why I want to see the iPhone 3 upgrades as compared to people upgrading from an iPhone 4. If more are going from a 4 to a 4s, thats just plain stupid IMO. Not enough differences to justify going from a 4 to a 4s IMO.

I really don't think Apple counts on or needs to count on people upgrading from the iPhone 4. In the big picture that will be a pretty small percentage, mostly techie people.

People upgrading from previous iPhone generations who have run out their original contracts and more importantly people who don't yet have a smartphone are Apple's bigger target markets.

Fact still stands... If apple make it... People will buy it... I know alot of people "upgrading" to this handset after the lack of iphone5...

But time will tell if it holds its ground over the new nokia's etc...

brent3000 said,
Fact still stands... If apple make it... People will buy it...

It's not as simple as that. Apple has built a pretty solid ecosystem, especially now with iCloud. No one is forced to buy Apple products, and few will care if someone didn't especially now with recent news of Android handsets becoming more "hip". Yet people do. It's a lot about Apple's vertical market, good marketing, and good products with a solid reputation and positive customer satisfaction surveys.

The 4S in particular wasn't a huge leap compared to the 4, but it'll no doubt push a whole lot of 3GS users over the edge of upgrading, now that their subscription plans run out.

brent3000 said,
But time will tell if it holds its ground over the new nokia's etc...

I think it's the other way round.

Cant help but wonder if Jobs death has anything to do with the amount of preorders.

And willing to bet that more iPhone 3 users are upgrading that iPhone 4. Waiting for those numbers to come out...if at all.

techbeck said,
Cant help but wonder if Jobs death has anything to do with the amount of preorders.

And willing to bet that more iPhone 3 users are upgrading that iPhone 4. Waiting for those numbers to come out...if at all.

I'm wondering the same thing. Is this a purchase frenzy because it was the last iPhone he personally managed the development of? For the lack of new features and everything, it really wouldn't make sense to upgrade otherwise...

techbeck said,
Cant help but wonder if Jobs death has anything to do with the amount of preorders.

And willing to bet that more iPhone 3 users are upgrading that iPhone 4. Waiting for those numbers to come out...if at all.


I don't think so. I think it's too expensive to motivate your "support". Just compare to how many donate to charity after historic celebrity deaths in cancer. Not even enough to make the news. And then charities are far more convient to donate to than purchasing a phone. No, this would go against much of what I perceive about humanity and convenience.

Northgrove said,

I don't think so. I think it's too expensive to motivate your "support". Just compare to how many donate to charity after historic celebrity deaths in cancer. Not even enough to make the news. And then charities are far more convient to donate to than purchasing a phone. No, this would go against much of what I perceive about humanity and convenience.

A lot of people bought Michael Jackson music/records/cds/whatever else after he died. His music sales were much better after he was dead. Why I am curious if this is the case with the iPhone. Thats all.

techbeck said,
Cant help but wonder if Jobs death has anything to do with the amount of preorders.

And willing to bet that more iPhone 3 users are upgrading that iPhone 4. Waiting for those numbers to come out...if at all.

Right, because first-day pre-order iPhone sales have never been all that great... /s

Shadrack said,

Right, because first-day pre-order iPhone sales have never been all that great... /s

They were better received than the 4s appeared to be.

techbeck said,
Cant help but wonder if Jobs death has anything to do with the amount of preorders.

Lets assume it does. Who's death at Apple explains the millions of phones Apple sold in July, August, and September?

Do you really need some sort of conspiracy theory to explain that the successor to the hottest selling Apple product in their history is continuing to sell well?

They were better received than the 4s appeared to be.

That's not true at all.

http://techcrunch.com/2007/07/...00million-profit-for-apple/

The original took several days to 'sell out', it was only 700k units shipped.


The 3Gs took several days to reach 1 million sold:
http://www.apple.com/pr/librar...e-3Gs-in-First-Weekend.html

And again for the 3GS
http://www.apple.com/pr/librar...lion-iPhone-3GS-Models.html

The iPhone 4S is their fastest selling device, according to Apple "surpassing the previous single day pre-order record of 600,000 held by iPhone 4." :
http://www.apple.com/pr/librar...lion-in-First-24-Hours.html

What universe do you live in where first day iPhone sales were ever better than the new one?

evn. said,

Do you really need some sort of conspiracy theory to explain that the successor to the hottest selling Apple product in their history is continuing to sell well?

Oh relax. Never stated or implied it was a conspiracy theory. Things sometimes sell well/better when someone dies. It was just a question. And I didnt say that iPhone for sales WERE worse now than they were before. I said it appeared that way or appeared they would be. At least thats what I meant.

techbeck said,
Cant help but wonder if Jobs death has anything to do with the amount of preorders.

And willing to bet that more iPhone 3 users are upgrading that iPhone 4. Waiting for those numbers to come out...if at all.

I don't think people bought this because of his death but you can't argue that his death did put apple in the spotlight. This added media attention for apple must have had an impact on sales in some way.

techbeck said,

Oh relax. Never stated or implied it was a conspiracy theory. Things sometimes sell well/better when someone dies. It was just a question.

Just as honest as Fox News with their "Is Obama a Nazi?" questions.... But it's just a question...

techbeck said,

Oh relax. Never stated or implied it was a conspiracy theory. Things sometimes sell well/better when someone dies.

I'll accept your proposal. Who's death is responsible for the iPhone 4 selling better than the iPhone 3GS?
If nobody is responsible for that, then why can't the same "popular product is updated and continues to sell well" process be at play here?

And I didnt say that iPhone for sales WERE worse now than they were before. I said it appeared that way or appeared they would be. At least thats what I meant.

Let me refresh your memory:

>>>> Cant help but wonder if Jobs death has anything to do with the amount of preorders.
>> Right, first-day pre-order iPhone sales have never been all that great
They were better received than the 4s appeared to be.

Given that we're in a story about the iPhone 4S "appearing" to have first-day pre-order sales >= 1 million units it "appears" to be selling about 1m a day.

You asserted that "[previous iPhone models ] were better received than the 4s appeared to be" when that's patently false. The context is pretty clear given you quoted a line about first day pre-order sales immediately before making that statement. Perhaps you let your zeal to say how poorly "the unwashed masses" recieve the iPhone 4S get in the way of your clear thinking?

I don't think people bought this because of his death but you can't argue that his death did put apple in the spotlight. This added media attention for apple must have had an impact on sales in some way.

As opposed to all those previous iPhone launches that no major media outlet covered?

If anything Steve Jobs' death is a distraction for Apple: in the four past updates to the iPhone the only media message was "new hotness from Apple, even more wonderful than last years stinky model!" now the message is "New hotness from Apple, with a hint of sadness about the loss of an somebody involved in some of the most well-received films of our childhood"

evn. said,

Let me refresh your memory:

And then I also said "at least thats not what I meant" And I NEVER said that other phones sold better. I said they were reviewed and appeared to have better comments about them. I never once mentioned sales figures.

Relax and read the whole post instead of just trying to argue.

and this quote, what YOU SAID i said I didnt...reread who said that.


>> Right, first-day pre-order iPhone sales have never been all that great

Shadrack said that. If you want to argue, like it appears you do, find someone else to argue with.

Edited by techbeck, Oct 10 2011, 5:46pm :

Shadrack said,

Just as honest as Fox News with their "Is Obama a Nazi?" questions.... But it's just a question...

So a guy cant ask or pose a question without someone making a big deal about it. Its a question I asked, period. If you have a problem with it and have to quote/mention something else that is off topic, good for you and have fun.

techbeck said,
And willing to bet that more iPhone 3 users are upgrading that iPhone 4. Waiting for those numbers to come out...if at all.
Does it matter? A purchase is a purchase.

techbeck said,
Cant help but wonder if Jobs death has anything to do with the amount of preorders.

I honestly doubt that Jobs' death is one of the major reasons why there have been over a million preorders. Anyone who thinks that it is, is seriously overestimating the cult-like attitude of Apple "fanboys". Anyone who buys one because of it, is seriously an idiot and should rethink their priorities in life. It's selling well mainly due to the same reasons the other models have sold so well for.

omgben said,
I think it has more to do with the fact that the 4S is avaliable on two additional carriers this go 'round.

That too. I forget about how it works in the US sometimes.

I have put a pre-order in for the 4S, why? The answers simple. my 3GS is up for renewal so thought get it as quickly as possible while its new.