Iranian Government encourages piracy

The Iranian Research Organization for Science and Technology (IROST), an organization directly connected to the Iranian Government, is charged with evaluating and advising policy makers on science and technology issues. They are also host to a large FTP server full of pirated software. Searching the FTP you will be able to find a wide range of applications all legal to download and use if you are an Iranian citizen.

The FTP server, which was discovered by TorrentFreak, was open to anyone around the world but shortly after being discovered access was cut off. Initially they password protected the FTP and then they cut off access completely to anyone outside of Iran. The server was host to multiple versions of software applications including: Microsoft Office 97 to 2010 or Photoshop 5.5 through CS3 along with appropriate serial numbers, cracks and keygens.

Hosting a site full of pirated software is not illegal in Iran. The copyright law in Iran only covers works created by citizens of the country, music, movies, applications and games created anywhere else are not covered under the law so they are free to be shared.

Iran is a member of the World Intellectual Property Organization (WIPO) whose purpose is to promoted the protection of intellectual property throughout the world. But has yet to actually sign the WIPO copyright treaty or any of the other international copyright agreements that would make pirating software illegal.

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Legally, they are not obliged to protect international copyrighted materials because they haven't signed the agreement.

It's upto the countries whose intellectual property has been affected there to negotiate with Iran and make them comply. HOWEVER, there are much bigger and more important issues at play now, such as the regional security, that just trump any concerns for the copyright law.

On a side note, the West, with the help of BP, pillaged the Iranian oil for a quarter of the 20th century, so it's kinda hypocritical to accuse them of stealing some virtual products after stealing their natural resources.

This is what happens when politicians don't like eachother but won't admit it.

Sanctions blanctions - it's all about dick measuring and political chesting. It is right and correct that backwards sub-humane countries are cut off from the benefits of world communication such as SourceForge, but it's a shame innocent people are punished because of it.

At the end of the day, some people who are dead against human rights will carry on doing so .. whilst the others will dance around in their hemp dresses complaining about a country they've never lived in properly whilst chewing humanely terminated vegetables.

It's very difficult for the population of a controlled state such as Iran to leave, let alone have any kind of freedom. It's a big prison and most of the people don't realise yet... those that do know how hard it is to move on can rightly feel frustrated at the injustice but the injustice is there because it's a police state with a taste for violence.

i haven't been to the article but if you want to see disturbing comments look around in this very sub forum. some obama supporters went pedophile because boy scouts booed at his video.

The US Gov't put it there, obviously, so the RIAA/MPAA, and whoever else would take care of the "problem" for them

why so much hatred.... its like all of u never ever used torrents to get stuf? then remmeber the currency rate ur 20$ stuff can be realy really expensive. then also piracy is open in china russia india pakistan and many countries.....

second i know ill be trashed now... what actulaly iran has done to west otherthen the propaganda by some west group, or that they will become this or that..... where are the mass destruction weapons from iraq ???? or where are the dam terrorists or bad people from pre 9/11 era, have they turn good, now every bad person is muslim every bomb is by muslim like before it was all good.

atifsh said,
why so much hatred.... its like all of u never ever used torrents to get stuf? then remmeber the currency rate ur 20$ stuff can be realy really expensive. then also piracy is open in china russia india pakistan and many countries.....

second i know ill be trashed now... what actulaly iran has done to west otherthen the propaganda by some west group, or that they will become this or that..... where are the mass destruction weapons from iraq ???? or where are the dam terrorists or bad people from pre 9/11 era, have they turn good, now every bad person is muslim every bomb is by muslim like before it was all good.

If this situation was done in reverse you would have a ton of angry Muslims on the streets waving their hate banners talking as if the west had just perpetrated another massive crime against Islam.

Fact is, encouraging their citizens to steal is not only wrong, it is actually against Islamic law.

Professional Lurker said,
Calm down DNG...

LOL Sorry Tews, getting tired of seeing people with rather low IQ's thinking what they say is 'smart'.

Judging by the comments on this article, it just shows how many people will put hate against one country based on the actions of a small group from that country (or surrounding countries).

Seriously people, learn something. We are all humans, we all must co-exist. Get over it.

DarkNovaGamer said,
Judging by the comments on this article, it just shows how many people will put hate against one country based on the actions of a small group from that country (or surrounding countries).

Seriously people, learn something. We are all humans, we all must co-exist. Get over it.

I think it is a bit worse than that...it impressive how people are gullible to political propaganda performed by a small group and its political agenda. Unfortunately, most people do not try to reason things before taking a stand on a subject, and worse, when confronted with reason and logic they can't counter-argument (for whatever reason), they always resort to offenses and aggression.

Oh so the government of Iran doesn't murder adulterers, homosexuals, apostates and anyone who criticizes Islam or Sharia. Well what a wonderful country that must be.

There is no coexisting with Sharia, None. And thats coming form an ex Muslim/Turk .

They promote terrorism, genocide and etnic cleansing. Why wouldn't they resort to theft too? After all it's the iranian way of doing things.

Alex_The_Cat said,
They promote terrorism, genocide and etnic cleansing. Why wouldn't they resort to theft too? After all it's the iranian way of doing things.

Seems to be the human way of doing things when it comes to piracy. The only reason that this article has so much activity regarding it is BECAUSE its Iran, if it was America or Russia no one would give a rats $#@. I'm truly disgusted by some comments I see people make just because their IQ isn't high enough to comprehend that just because one group of people from a race/country does NOT represent the country itself.

DarkNovaGamer said,

Seems to be the human way of doing things when it comes to piracy. The only reason that this article has so much activity regarding it is BECAUSE its Iran, if it was America or Russia no one would give a rats $#@. I'm truly disgusted by some comments I see people make just because their IQ isn't high enough to comprehend that just because one group of people from a race/country does NOT represent the country itself.

So you're saying that the goverment of Iran is completely separate from the Iranian people. Isn't a goverment suppose to represent it's own people?

Alex_The_Cat said,

So you're saying that the goverment of Iran is completely separate from the Iranian people. Isn't a goverment suppose to represent it's own people?


It's not a democratic government.

It must suck to be an Iranian living in Iran under this current regime (unless your on the inner circle). You could and should be one of the wealthiest countries in the world yet due to the big R you are deprived of a great many things. I hope things change soon.
As to the pirating, it`s government backed so the west can do jack all about it!

There is no other choice. Speaking as an iranian citizen I have always been against of such kind of sanctions. We cannot Buy any kind of genuine software directly and if we could it should be through merchants at least double price. OK That is understandable, shame on our government but why we donot have free access to free stuff over the internet too? I am a programmer myself and as much as I am challenging with Iranian government filtering I should try to bypass the target site domain filtering as well. for example: sourceforge is an open source host but we are forbiden to download from it not from our government but from the other side. even worse we cannot get adobe flash player simply because adobe is an American based company. isn't it ridiculous? what is the point of such sanctions? of course we should buy a VPN channel and we have to pay for it for even free stuff on the net that even us were participating on making them. So you see. something is just as it is. fair or unfair. I have to Clarify that I am against any kind of piracy since I am a developer too. but you tell me. what should we do?

S3P€hR said,
There is no other choice.

bull****. You have other choices. You have the choice to use open source software. You have the choice to develop your own software. You also have the choice to leave your backwards country and move somewhere that you would have legal access to the software that you legally do not have access to.

roadwarrior said,

bull****. You have other choices. You have the choice to use open source software. You have the choice to develop your own software. You also have the choice to leave your backwards country and move somewhere that you would have legal access to the software that you legally do not have access to.

You have the choice to calm the hell down. Anyways, you do not have any right to just say someone has a choice when you do not know the entire story. Go live where they are for a month before shouting out some random crap like the typical idiot that posts on most articles.

roadwarrior said,

bull****. You have other choices. You have the choice to use open source software. You have the choice to develop your own software. You also have the choice to leave your backwards country and move somewhere that you would have legal access to the software that you legally do not have access to.

You make it sound so easy.

1. He said source forge is blocked, and I'm sure many other US based websites are too.
2. It isn't that easy to suddenly just move to another country, why don't you try it? And considering he comes from Iran? Fat chance he's going to get anywhere near an American immigrant visa unless he's some genius.

It is also illegal for any US based website to offer services to people in Iran, and since a lot of open source software is based in the US (or servers in the US)..it becomes illegal for that too.

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If you bothered reading the legal stuff included in most software (or online), you'll find something along the lines of the following:

The software is subject to applicable U.S. export laws and regulations. You must comply with all domestic and international export laws and regulations that apply to the software. These laws include restrictions on destinations, end users, and end use. Without limitation, you may not transfer the software or service without U.S. government permission to anyone on U.S. government exclusion lists (see the Commerce Department's Lists to Check); the governments of Iran, Sudan, or Cuba; or prohibited members of the Cuban Communist Party. You represent and warrant that you're not on any of those lists or under the control of or an agent for anyone on those lists or the entities listed above.

Edited by -Razorfold, Aug 25 2010, 4:20pm :

There are plenty of sources for open source software that are in countries other than the US (including those that are friendly to Iran), so that blows away your first argument. As for your other argument, the US still allows immigration from Iran, as far as I'm aware, as do many other countries. Oh, and I never said it was easy, but that it was a choice.

Hell, Iranians also have the CHOICE to overthrow the piece of **** government that they currently have in place that is the reason for the current restrictions in the first place.

roadwarrior said,
There are plenty of sources for open source software that are in countries other than the US (including those that are friendly to Iran), so that blows away your first argument. As for your other argument, the US still allows immigration from Iran, as far as I'm aware, as do many other countries.

Ah yet again, please don't talk about something you have no idea. Sure immigration exists, try getting it and then we'll talk ok? You make it seem like its just walking into a consulate and going Hi I want to move to the US (or other country) and then they just suddenly give you your permanent residency. Maybe somewhere along the line you forgot about him actually needing to have a job waiting for him, and be sponsored by said. Or he would have to be a genius. Or have family members.

And as for your first point, read above since I replied to it in a previous post of yours.

Hell, Iranians also have the CHOICE to overthrow the piece of **** government that they currently have in place that is the reason for the current restrictions in the first place.

Yes because thats so easy to do right? Why hasn't it happened in Vietnam? North Korea? Cuba? parts of Africa? China? other parts of Asia? Afghanistan (since the taliban still exists)? Iraq (since it doesn't have a proper government as of yet)?

Edited by -Razorfold, Aug 25 2010, 4:26pm :

roadwarrior said,
There are plenty of sources for open source software that are in countries other than the US (including those that are friendly to Iran), so that blows away your first argument. As for your other argument, the US still allows immigration from Iran, as far as I'm aware, as do many other countries. Oh, and I never said it was easy, but that it was a choice.

Hell, Iranians also have the CHOICE to overthrow the piece of **** government that they currently have in place that is the reason for the current restrictions in the first place.

sourceforge is blocked.... sounds like an issue to take up with your gover-oh wait.

AgentGray said,

sourceforge is blocked.... sounds like an issue to take up with your gover-oh wait.

Contrary to popular belief, Sourceforge isn't the only place on the internet where you can get open source software.

roadwarrior said,
Hell, Iranians also have the CHOICE to overthrow the piece of **** government that they currently have in place that is the reason for the current restrictions in the first place.

Do you know any history? Do you the "piece of **** government" that you so obviously hate is in existence because of the actions of the US Government? Similar to how Saddam and Bin Laden came into being.

/- Razorfold said,
Yes because thats so easy to do right?

You seem to be under the mistaken impression that everything should be easy. I never said any of their choices were easy, but they are available choices.

Forensis said,

Do you know any history? Do you the "piece of **** government" that you so obviously hate is in existence because of the actions of the US Government? Similar to how Saddam and Bin Laden came into being.

At last, someone else who knows the truth!

Thanks for that.

roadwarrior said,

You seem to be under the mistaken impression that everything should be easy. I never said any of their choices were easy, but they are available choices.

So you're telling me someone should uproot their life, risk their family, their children etc for some software?

Here's a much easier choice. The US government should drop its sanctions since it doesn't harm the government, and instead just harms the citizens. Sure the government should care about its citizens, but I doubt they do.

S3P€hR said,
There is no other choice. Speaking as an iranian citizen I have always been against of such kind of sanctions. We cannot Buy any kind of genuine software directly and if we could it should be through merchants at least double price. OK That is understandable, shame on our government but why we donot have free access to free stuff over the internet too? I am a programmer myself and as much as I am challenging with Iranian government filtering I should try to bypass the target site domain filtering as well. for example: sourceforge is an open source host but we are forbiden to download from it not from our government but from the other side. even worse we cannot get adobe flash player simply because adobe is an American based company. isn't it ridiculous? what is the point of such sanctions? of course we should buy a VPN channel and we have to pay for it for even free stuff on the net that even us were participating on making them. So you see. something is just as it is. fair or unfair. I have to Clarify that I am against any kind of piracy since I am a developer too. but you tell me. what should we do?

I hear you bro!

From a countryman.

By the way, a law has been passed that requires all Iran's governmental organisations to use OSS, not sure what's with this particular org.I myself don't like OSS and use MS products all the time.I'm learning .NET currently.
I don't endorse stealing people's creations, but in case of MS I know that they are benefiting from this in a way...and I like MS a lot.

And it's not like we are the only country with piracy; mind you most patches and keygens that we use comes from Russia.

Pirated software...wow, next thing you know they'll want weapons grade uranium so they can kill Jews.

I have the solution for all of Iran's troubles...

IMO only reason they're doing this is because the movies/artists/apps they come out with are next to nothing worth pirating so protecting just their own peoples work is worthless. Ambassador of death I say.

They steal software, the west wants to steals their oil.

We hate them for sitting on all that oil, doing deals with Russia and China, and not selling in dollars. More anti Iran BS.

boho said,
They steal software, the west wants to steals their oil.

We hate them for sitting on all that oil, doing deals with Russia and China, and not selling in dollars. More anti Iran BS.

LOL. Yeah because Iran is a shining example of decency and humanity right?

Tim Dawg said,
LOL. Yeah because Iran is a shining example of decency and humanity right?

You're ignoring the main points stated this is about providing for the people not the government.

Anaron said,
What puzzles me is why it wasn't password-protected from day one.
they probably wanted it to be known they don't care about trade sanctions

Anaron said,
What puzzles me is why it wasn't password-protected from day one.
If it was password protected from day one then how would the Iranian citizens download the software? Have the Iranian government send out an e-mail to all Iranians with the username and password or broadcast it on TV/radio?

I think they had to leave it open especially considering it's more effective to regulate access based on IP address which is what I'm sure they're doing now. They can do the same thing MS used to do with the non-exportable high encryption patches of yesteryear - regulate access knowing that certain IP blocks belong to certain countries. It's not fool proof of course thanks to open or anonymous proxies but it's a start.

Well I don't think they have a choice, do they?

The US and parts of the EU (where most software comes from) both have trade bans against Iran.

/- Razorfold said,
Well I don't think they have a choice, do they?

They have the choices to either develop their own software or use open source software. Of course, their government would rather them steal than do something honest.

roadwarrior said,

They have the choices to either develop their own software or use open source software. Of course, their government would rather them steal than do something honest.

No, they dont

"Fedora software and technical information is subject to the U.S. Export Administration Regulations and other U.S. and foreign law, and may not be exported or re-exported to certain countries (currently Cuba, Iran, Iraq, North Korea, Sudan, and Syria) or to persons or entities prohibited from receiving U.S. exports (including those (a) on the Bureau of Industry and Security Denied Parties List or Entity List, (b) on the Office of Foreign Assets Control list of Specially Designated Nationals and Blocked Persons, and (c) involved with missile technology or nuclear, chemical or biological weapons). You may not download Fedora software or technical information if you are located in one of these countries, or otherwise affected by these restrictions. You may not provide Fedora software or technical information to individuals or entities located in one of these countries or otherwise affected by these restrictions. You are also responsible for compliance with foreign law requirements applicable to the import and use of Fedora software and technical information."

Magallanes said,

No, they dont

Fedora is not the only open source software available (there are distros developed in countries that do not have export restrictions to Iran), and they still have the option to develop software themselves.

roadwarrior said,

Fedora is not the only open source software available (there are distros developed in countries that do not have export restrictions to Iran), and they still have the option to develop software themselves.


So now if tomorrow the software you use frequently (or the world uses) was completely banned from sale in the US. And the only option was to use some completely random OS from another country that nobody else uses, or make your own.

I'm sure you'll be happy just to follow that regulation right? I'm completely sure you wouldn't try to get it some other way.

/- Razorfold said,

So now if tomorrow the software you use frequently (or the world uses) was completely banned from sale in the US. And the only option was to use some completely random OS from another country that nobody else uses, or make your own.

I'm sure you'll be happy just to follow that regulation right? I'm completely sure you wouldn't try to get it some other way.

They have been using the software illegally since it was released, so your statement really isn't relevant. The export restrictions on Windows and other software developed in the US have been in place for decades.

Magallanes said,

No, they dont

"Fedora software and technical information is subject to the U.S. Export Administration Regulations and other U.S. and foreign law, and may not be exported or re-exported to certain countries (currently Cuba, Iran, Iraq, North Korea, Sudan, and Syria) or to persons or entities prohibited from receiving U.S. exports (including those (a) on the Bureau of Industry and Security Denied Parties List or Entity List, (b) on the Office of Foreign Assets Control list of Specially Designated Nationals and Blocked Persons, and (c) involved with missile technology or nuclear, chemical or biological weapons). You may not download Fedora software or technical information if you are located in one of these countries, or otherwise affected by these restrictions. You may not provide Fedora software or technical information to individuals or entities located in one of these countries or otherwise affected by these restrictions. You are also responsible for compliance with foreign law requirements applicable to the import and use of Fedora software and technical information."

iraq ? someone forgot to remove them from the list .

roadwarrior said,

They have been using the software illegally since it was released, so your statement really isn't relevant. The export restrictions on Windows and other software developed in the US have been in place for decades.

Answer the question. No need to side-step it. The reason you won't answer is because you know the answer.

You dirty Pirate.

Tpiom said,
Cool!

At least they dare to go another way - it's only a matter of time other countries follow.

No, its not a matter of time and that model wouldn't be able to sustain the software industry.

spenser.d said,

No, its not a matter of time and that model wouldn't be able to sustain the software industry.

Not if they continue like they do now. This is a wake-up call, they need to find other solutions to get paid for their work - more and more countries are getting pirate parties, and the numbers of users are rising. As piracy is becoming a key question for people.

Tpiom said,

Not if they continue like they do now. This is a wake-up call, they need to find other solutions to get paid for their work - more and more countries are getting pirate parties, and the numbers of users are rising. As piracy is becoming a key question for people.

Or... if you like the software a company makes, you purchase it from them. Do you expect companies to offer all their software for free and hope people use paypal to donate to them?

Go to college for 6 years to get a masters degree in comp sci and live off of good will donations... good idea.

Neobond said,
All I can say is, send the RIAA/MPAA there (all of them)

+1 And with any luck, they'll never be seen or heard from again.

Neobond said,
All I can say is, send the RIAA/MPAA there (all of them)

lol, IAEA cant even get in, im not sure what is worst though (WARNING: sarcasm)

MohammadReza Taesiri said,
i'm an Iranian, so shame on me!

dont worry , you are innocent

but your government .... not so much

Ci7 said,
shame on them


Why ?
What is the legal way Iranian people could get the software otherwise ?
Its good that the government is offering the software for its people for free, which they couldn't get otherwise because of restrictions other countries made on them.

Ci7 said,
shame on them


I fully agree. It's not the Iranian people who should be ashamed but their government, it's all lies, deceit and just a bunch of a-lot-of-wrong-stuff.

kInG aLeXo said,

Why ?
What is the legal way Iranian people could get the software otherwise ?
Its good that the government is offering the software for its people for free, which they couldn't get otherwise because of restrictions other countries made on them.

Their government ia not offering the software for it's people, as it did not even pay for it. It is handing out illegal cracked copies (hence keygens and such), which the citizens could easily download themselves, they merely made the piracy hub into a central location.

I think it's important to note that Iran is on the blacklist that disallows export of software, among other things, to their country.

So as far as i know, it is illegal for companies such as Microsoft to actually sell Windows there, meaning that their choice is restricted to piracy.

FISKER_Q said,
So as far as i know, it is illegal for companies such as Microsoft to actually sell Windows there, meaning that their choice is restricted to piracy.

No, they also have the choice to develop their own software or use open source software.

JustinN said,

Their government ia not offering the software for it's people, as it did not even pay for it. It is handing out illegal cracked copies (hence keygens and such), which the citizens could easily download themselves, they merely made the piracy hub into a central location.


How it can "offer" it in other way then ? It is not allowed for it to even buy it ! This is the only way for the people or even the government to get the software.

roadwarrior said,

No, they also have the choice to develop their own software or use open source software.

That isn't much of a choice.

roadwarrior said,

No, they also have the choice to develop their own software or use open source software.

Fine, if they want to use said products then.

kInG aLeXo said,

Why ?
What is the legal way Iranian people could get the software otherwise ?
Its good that the government is offering the software for its people for free, which they couldn't get otherwise because of restrictions other countries made on them.

Are you kidding me?

jporter said,

I fully agree. It's not the Iranian people who should be ashamed but their government, it's all lies, deceit and just a bunch of a-lot-of-wrong-stuff.

You must be American...