Judge: Apple must run ads for Samsung's Galaxy Tab in UK

Last week, a UK judge ruled that the design of Samsung's Galaxy Tab 10.1 tablet did not copy the deisgn of Apple's iPad. He also slammed Samsung a bit, claiming that the Galaxy Tab is not as "cool" as the iPad.

Today, Bloomberg reports that the same judge has put in yet another twist in this case. Judge Colin Birss has ordered Apple to purchase and run ads in a number of UK-based newspaper and magazines that dispel the idea that the Galaxy Tab is a copy of the iPad. In effect, Apple has been ordered to pay for and run ads for Samsung's Galaxy Tab.

The newspapers and magazines that will feature these ads include the Financial Times, the Daily Mail, the Guardian Mobile magazine, and T3. The ruling also ordered Apple to post a notice about the court's decision on its website and keep it live for six months. It's an order that obviously didn't sit well with Apple's lawyer Richard Hacon. He told the court today, “No company likes to refer to a rival on its website."

Apple has already said it plans to appeal the original ruling earlier this month, so it may be a little while before UK residents see these rather embarrassing ads.

Source: Bloomberg

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The major difference here is that none of the Android tablets on the market stack up anywhere near as nicely as an iPad. The iPad is leagues ahead in every respect of quality. Android tablets are a cheap and horrible disease.

Spirit Dave said,
The major difference here is that none of the Android tablets on the market stack up anywhere near as nicely as an iPad. The iPad is leagues ahead in every respect of quality. Android tablets are a cheap and horrible disease.

Besides being fanboy drivel what does that have to do with this story?

The courts decided Apple was not copied, it is the courts that decide patent matters like this so their say is final.

Spirit Dave said,
The major difference here is that none of the Android tablets on the market stack up anywhere near as nicely as an iPad. The iPad is leagues ahead in every respect of quality. Android tablets are a cheap and horrible disease.

Fanboyism is also a disease according to the Crapcyclopedia bull****annica.

Back to being serious here, I use an Android phone which I love to tinker with, I've owned an iphone 4 and 3GS... Having tried the ipad 1 and 2, and at least 4 android tablets, I can safely say that apple does have the more polished product and that they ensnare their buyers very well into their web. Which is not necessarily a BAD thing... Android tablets still need to "Get there". But they are not in any way bad, just different. Their biggest flaw is that alot of variants exist (Just like the phones) which means you have to be careful when you shop for one as opposed to ipads, which you can just buy without even thinking. (Which again, is the reason why apple marketing is next to none)

Karendar said,

Fanboyism is also a disease according to the Crapcyclopedia bull****annica.

Back to being serious here, I use an Android phone which I love to tinker with, I've owned an iphone 4 and 3GS... Having tried the ipad 1 and 2, and at least 4 android tablets, I can safely say that apple does have the more polished product and that they ensnare their buyers very well into their web. Which is not necessarily a BAD thing... Android tablets still need to "Get there". But they are not in any way bad, just different. Their biggest flaw is that alot of variants exist (Just like the phones) which means you have to be careful when you shop for one as opposed to ipads, which you can just buy without even thinking. (Which again, is the reason why apple marketing is next to none)

One thing is for sure i do not care how good apple products are I still want other companies making electronics equipment. If it were up to some of these Apple Fanboys we'd have no choice and would be forced to buy Apple.

I'm glad other companies are still trying.

swanlee said,

One thing is for sure i do not care how good apple products are I still want other companies making electronics equipment. If it were up to some of these Apple Fanboys we'd have no choice and would be forced to buy Apple.

I'm glad other companies are still trying.

Agreed. I'd rather be pro-choice than blindly get the "leading product". Whenever someone asks me to buy a mac product for them (ipad, ipod, iphone, etc.) I always start off by asking, "Why do you want an apple product exactly? Have you tried anything else?"

I remember someone arguing with me that the sound on an ipod was the best on the market. I told him I could wager against that. Easiest 50 bucks I ever made.

swanlee said,

Besides being fanboy drivel what does that have to do with this story?

The courts decided Apple was not copied, it is the courts that decide patent matters like this so their say is final.

I'm not a fanboy ... I appreciate the best products. Apple makes the best. I also have a Samsung Galaxy phone too. I don't particularly think they're in the same league. In fact, they're absolutely not. But I still own many products that aren't made by Apple. So I'm very open to new and other tech. And when another company makes better products, I will buy them and use them more.

But what it had to do with the story is not relevant. What it had to do with the huge number of people's comments on Samsung devices vs Apple ones is what matters. And if you care to read the whole sorry thread, you'll see plenty of that.

The courts made their decision apple was still being petty dooshes about it so the courts gave them something else to think about.

Hopefully this gets Apple off the patent kick they are on, if you are trying to patent a square touch device then you should be blasted by the courts for wasting everyone's time.

i still dont see the fuss, they dont look the same, and they definatly dont behave the same, nor run the same or even do the same things. we had an android tablet and and an ipad down with us on our holidays and neither of use saw anything similar about any of them

I have a few Apple products, I'm neutral on most of these tech companies these days they're all the same - felt I had preface my following statement:

'in yo face, Apple'

Lirodon said,
"The Samsung Galaxy Tab does not look anything like the new iPad....

And it doesn't perform like one either."

It does even better! <--- there, the new commercial on Iped webpage.

Arceles said,

It does even better! <--- there, the new commercial on Iped webpage.


And people say Apple fanboys / trolls are irritating...

thatguyandrew1992 said,
Wow. Im no apple fan but what kind of punishment is this? Doesn't seem right to me.

It's childish punishment. It's a mockery of the legal system. Plus, why does everyone hate on a company everyone used to root for? Money. Having money = perceived as evil.

It's moronic.

Apple should just make the commercials. They could show non-tech people being dissapointed they bought that POS instead of a real iPad. Then show them being dissapointed they can't get some of the apps their friends have on the iPad. Then finally show them returning it to the store and buying an iPad. Walking away with a big smile on their face...

Well, that's what Apple does really well. Bash their competition with childish, immature commercials which highlight nothing positive about their products but make fun of others who use something that isn't one of their over-hyped, overpriced products. I'm sure it'll be a big hit. The one thing Apple advertisers do well is make fun of other people. Personally, I think it's a good ruling and punishment.

devHead said,
Well, that's what Apple does really well. Bash their competition with childish, immature commercials which highlight nothing positive about their products but make fun of others who use something that isn't one of their over-hyped, overpriced products. I'm sure it'll be a big hit. The one thing Apple advertisers do well is make fun of other people. Personally, I think it's a good ruling and punishment.

I'm sorry, but which rock or boulder have you been under these past several YEARS? Last 20+ Apple commercials I've seen on TV for almost 4 years have not ONCE bashed a competitor, and have actually been showcasing the features of Apple products and what they can do. Case in point, the last dozen or so iPhone 4S and iPad 3 commercials, and also the new MBP Retina ads.

I just tried a Samsugn GT 10.2 at my office, and have to say, even compared to other Android tablets, SUCKS ASS! Doesn't even come close to iPad's abilities.

-=MagMan=- said,

I'm sorry, but which rock or boulder have you been under these past several YEARS? Last 20+ Apple commercials I've seen on TV for almost 4 years have not ONCE bashed a competitor, and have actually been showcasing the features of Apple products and what they can do. Case in point, the last dozen or so iPhone 4S and iPad 3 commercials, and also the new MBP Retina ads.

I just tried a Samsugn GT 10.2 at my office, and have to say, even compared to other Android tablets, SUCKS ASS! Doesn't even come close to iPad's abilities.

Obviously not under the same rock as you. That's for d*** sure.

-=MagMan=- said,

I just tried a Samsugn GT 10.2 at my office, and have to say, even compared to other Android tablets, SUCKS ASS! Doesn't even come close to iPad's abilities.

Different needs for different people. Try objectivity, might do you some good.

-=MagMan=- said,

I'm sorry, but which rock or boulder have you been under these past several YEARS? Last 20+ Apple commercials I've seen on TV for almost 4 years have not ONCE bashed a competitor, and have actually been showcasing the features of Apple products and what they can do. Case in point, the last dozen or so iPhone 4S and iPad 3 commercials, and also the new MBP Retina ads.

I just tried a Samsugn GT 10.2 at my office, and have to say, even compared to other Android tablets, SUCKS ASS! Doesn't even come close to iPad's abilities.

Troll alert. Lets see "I'm a MAC, I'm a PC" for starters

Curious what point this is making. Besides removal of the buttons on the front, and a little sleeker and shinier, there seems to be little difference, certainly not enough to claim Apple innovated something more than the pre-ipad tablets did that would justify any of Apple's sentiment on this issue. I'm just basing this off the picture, OS may be a different matter, I haven't used the android tablets extensively so I don't know how similar they are there.

J_R_G said,

Curious what point this is making. Besides removal of the buttons on the front, and a little sleeker and shinier, there seems to be little difference

That *was* the point. The parent poster's image implies that Apple revolutionised the tablet design. The image you saw clearly shows otherwise.

GreenMartian said,

That *was* the point. The parent poster's image implies that Apple revolutionised the tablet design. The image you saw clearly shows otherwise.

I never said they revolutionised anything. I don't believe that for a second they did. However, not one company was successful til Apple did it. In fact ... scrap that ... no other company IS successful with tablets except Apple. And now they're all jumping on board the same boat Apple is on. The sleek, basic design with a subtle outline is simple, but it's still Apple's design. Like it or hate it. It is. Designer's know the difference. Dumb ass consumers wont see it as much. That's not the point though. Plus, the punishment is never going to be put into action. It'll get appealed and thrown out in favour of some kind of fine.

Spirit Dave said,

I never said they revolutionised anything. I don't believe that for a second they did. However, not one company was successful til Apple did it. In fact ... scrap that ... no other company IS successful with tablets except Apple. And now they're all jumping on board the same boat Apple is on. The sleek, basic design with a subtle outline is simple, but it's still Apple's design. Like it or hate it. It is. Designer's know the difference. Dumb ass consumers wont see it as much. That's not the point though. Plus, the punishment is never going to be put into action. It'll get appealed and thrown out in favour of some kind of fine.

Apple is successful with tablets because their marketing strategy and demographics were built up to this. That's where other companies failed at. They did revolutionalize the tablet world by ushering an era of need for it. They were opportunists in every sense and will continue to be.

The design itself was nothing amazing or new, apple just have a tendency of making very slick, shiny and beautifully designed products. Of course people will inspire their look from it.

http://www.geek.com/wp-content...pple-ipad-vs-Galaxy-Tab.jpg

Black bezel + rounded corners? That's pretty much all I see to be honest.

Hopefully more courts around the world will start handing Apple punishments like this. The law suits are becoming boring. Company image is everything, and I'm sure Apple are starting to lose theirs with their constant court action.

PsYcHoKiLLa said,
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH...*breath*...HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

AGAIN, HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH...*breath*...HAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

PsYcHoKiLLa said,
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH...*breath*...HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

I was going to post the exact same thing, so i'll just quote you instead

PsYcHoKiLLa said,
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH...*breath*...HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

quoted again, just to make sure it stays on the interwebz. This is great news, and funny as hell. Serves apple right. Now if only more courts would issue rulings like this, perhaps Apple will STFU and leave other companies alone instead of trying to sue everyone.

NPGMBR said,
I'm no Apple fan by a long shot and I think this is pure bull****!

If by that you meant the actual lawsuit being BS than I agree. But the punishment is definitely fitting.

SharpGreen said,

If by that you meant the actual lawsuit being BS than I agree. But the punishment is definitely fitting.

You agree because your design wasn't blatant ripped off. You'd think different,y if you'd spent millions of dollars creating something that then got cheaply ripped off by companies putting out inferior products, thus diluting the market from your high grade product.

Spirit Dave said,

You agree because your design wasn't blatant ripped off.

Apparently the courts do not think so and that is what matters. The 2 look nothing alike and glad the UK judges are acting smarter than the US.

Spirit Dave said,

You agree because your design wasn't blatant ripped off. You'd think different,y if you'd spent millions of dollars creating something that then got cheaply ripped off by companies putting out inferior products, thus diluting the market from your high grade product.

so what's so unique about the Apple iPad, not even it's name since it's so close to iPaq, heck let's put in Thinkpad. It's ridiculous that they are doing this against competitors, it's like someone built a car and then other companies did the same. You don't see car companies suing themselves over this crap.

techbeck said,

Apparently the courts do not think so and that is what matters. The 2 look nothing alike and glad the UK judges are acting smarter than the US.

The two look exceptionally close.

And regarding the design being different. Well, take a look at tablets before the iPad. Almost none of them had any resemblance. Now all tablets just seem to take the sleek design of the iPad and manipulate it a little. Sorry but anyone who disagree's is just plain wrong.

Edited by Steven P., Jul 20 2012, 9:48am :

Spirit Dave said,

The two look exceptionally close. Don't be an idiot.

And regarding the design being different. Well, take a look at tablets before the iPad. Almost none of them had any resemblance. Now all tablets just seem to take the sleek design of the iPad and manipulate it a little. Sorry but anyone who disagree's is just plain wrong.

Got to love the name calling. If thats what you need to do to get your point out...good for you.

And there have been designs on other products before Apple's that look like what Apple has today. So Apple did nothing really other than use a similar design on their devices, patent the hell out of it, and then start suing anyone who releases a device that looks anything like theirs.

And if customers/sellers cannot tell them apart...whose fault is that? The peoples fault for not being able to READ THE LABEL AND PRODUCT. Manufactures names are clearly marked.

And obvious people who disagree are not wrong since Apple is losing cases.

Apple didnt create the world...they copied just as much as the next guy. The only difference is that Apple is a patent troll that patents already existing/implemented ideas and calls it their own. And the patent system is so messed up that its whoever patents it first gets full rights.

So yea, Apple is smelling like roses and all others are copycats and the customers are dumb for not being able to tell the obvious differences between products and being unable to read.

techbeck said,

Got to love the name calling. If thats what you need to do to get your point out...good for you.

And there have been designs on other products before Apple's that look like what Apple has today. So Apple did nothing really other than use a similar design on their devices, patent the hell out of it, and then start suing anyone who releases a device that looks anything like theirs.

And if customers/sellers cannot tell them apart...whose fault is that? The peoples fault for not being able to READ THE LABEL AND PRODUCT. Manufactures names are clearly marked.

And obvious people who disagree are not wrong since Apple is losing cases.

Apple didnt create the world...they copied just as much as the next guy. The only difference is that Apple is a patent troll that patents already existing/implemented ideas and calls it their own. And the patent system is so messed up that its whoever patents it first gets full rights.

So yea, Apple is smelling like roses and all others are copycats and the customers are dumb for not being able to tell the obvious differences between products and being unable to read.

I didn't call you any names. I told you not to be an idiot. Not that you were one.

Regardless, you're skipping over the real issue. If Apple advertise a product on Television called the iPad that runs at $499, and customers see how beautiful it is and how lovely the OS is and how super fast the device is... they may go out to the shop and look at tablets. When they see the Samsung tablet, which looks ultra-similar, some consumers will be fooled into believing that because this device looks so similar, it does the same thing. Dumb sales pitches from Best Buy or Walmart employees will also back up this mis-information and those consumers may purchase the inferior Samsung product thinking they're getting just as good a device for less. When in fact, they have bought a low grade device with a quality drop in literally every respect. Not the consumers fault. Samsung's fault. Apple may take influence from things, but they make things better and I'm sorry, before the iPad, no one got confused as to what a tablet was ... when the iPad came out, no one thought it looked too similar to the others. Now, everyone and their dog is making iPad clones. Because let's be honest, that's what the Samsung devices are. And bad ones too. Hey, this is opinion sure... but I'm right and you're wrong.

Master of Earth said,

apple could careless about this bull sh.it...keep innovate on how to sue people with point


Could care less, or couldn't care less?!?

PaCpiS said,
Apple doesn't have to worry, the same judge said himself "that the Galaxy Tab is not as "cool" as the iPad"...

Why do you think he said that? Did you miss the intention? By saying that, it prevents Apple from appealing because Apple would have to say "Samsung is cooler than us." or "Samsung is just as cool as us." Gotta admire the judge's sense of humor in all this.

NightCrawlerInfinity said,

Why do you think he said that? Did you miss the intention? By saying that, it prevents Apple from appealing because Apple would have to say "Samsung is cooler than us." or "Samsung is just as cool as us." Gotta admire the judge's sense of humor in all this.

What? Seriously? You don't appeal because a company is cooler than you. You appeal because the ruling is nonsense to you or you want to stretch out the proceedings before posting something like this in the newspapers.

Karendar said,

What? Seriously? You don't appeal because a company is cooler than you. You appeal because the ruling is nonsense to you or you want to stretch out the proceedings before posting something like this in the newspapers.

The papers will be filed as an appeal to what the judge's verdict was. So when papers are filed it is always opened up by:

[COMPANY DOING APPEAL] hereby appeals [JUDGE'S NAME] verdict of [VERDICT].

So on paper the Apple is saying they disagree with the judges decision. To us people of the Internet, we will interpret that as Apple is saying Samsung is either cooler or just as cool.

You get it what I am saying now? That's how most appeals are filed.

I wasn't literally saying that Apple won't appeal because of it. But if they do, tech pundits can have a great humor on Apple's expense. That is why you have to admire the Judge's sense of humor.

jon.01 said,
DAMN. Though I'd still like to see Apple get the Microsoft treatment...anticompetitive...huge fines...etc

Its only wrong when MS does

PalletTown said,
If this actually goes ahead then sales of the Galaxy Tab could increase exponentially since Apple are so good at making consumers want a product

It'd be samsung adverts, just funded by apple.

n_K said,

It'd be samsung adverts, just funded by apple.

I meant Apple themselves, not the quality of the adverts. Most people I know see something from Apple and say "Ohhh I want that" and I'm pretty sure the majority of them would be too techtarded (yes I did just make up a word) to realise that it was made by another company.