Lenovo stops selling Windows RT Yoga 11 notebook on its website

Lenovo released one of the few PCs that ran Microsoft's ARM-based Windows RT operating system last fall with the 11 inch Yoga 11 notebook-tablet hybrid. Now it looks like Lenovo is phasing out its lone Windows RT product, as it no longer sells the Yoga 11 on its own website.

Lenovo's listing for the Yoga 11 on its online store now states, "This product is no longer available for purchase on lenovo.com." It does say that it might still be available on other retail websites, and indeed a quick search on the Internet shows that Office Depot, Tiger Direct and other sites still sell the convertible PC.

However, the fact that Lenovo's own website no longer sells the Yoga 11 would seem to strongly suggest that the company's only Windows RT PC is no longer being made and that other retailers are simply selling through the rest of their available inventory.

Microsoft launched the Surface RT alongside the launch of Windows RT in October 2012. Besides the Yoga 11, Windows RT has been used in the Dell XPS 10, the Acer VivoTab RT and the Samsung Ativ Tab, the latter of which was never sold in the US. While there's been quite a few new PCs released that used Windows 8 since fall 2012, there have been no new Windows RT PCs released since the first wave.

Microsoft cut the prices on its Surface RT tablet earlier this week by $150. So far, there have been no announced plans by Microsoft or any other PC OEMs to launch future Windows RT PCs. However, Qualcomm did show off a Windows RT tablet prototype running on its upcoming quad-core Snapdragon 800 chipset at Microsoft's BUILD 2013 conference in June.

Source: Lenovo via PCWorld | Image via Lenovo

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Google has a laptop with ARM processor for 249usd, it is called Chrome book

If lenovo had the same one with Windows 8 ARM, they may have made a lot of sales

Not many others do either. Soon hardware will make the only benefit RT has (battery life) irrelevant and it will go away, I give it 24 months at the most.

Spicoli said,
I see no value to RT when I can just get an Intel based system that runs everything.

Except when I want a tablet with long battery life, without superfluous desktop junk dragging down performance.

Dot Matrix said,

Except when I want a tablet with long battery life, without superfluous desktop junk dragging down performance.

If you buy a computer from Microsoft or one that support's Microsoft Signature, they won't be loaded with background junk.

Also pay attention to some of the upcoming x86 tablets, their battery life is getting close and sometimes surpassing ARM based systems, and are significantly faster in raw processing.

I could argue for ARM based tablets and against them with the same level of passion. It truly is a personal matter, and with people depending on x86/desktop applications less than ever, the distinction is becoming less of a trade off.

Lenovo have been a strong enterprise hardware company, with long term support of business class hardware, including TabletPC that they continued to support because of the business demand for it. They continue to have a better range of digitizer class Stylus supported touch displays than most MFRs.

Whether they replace the RT model or not, means little beyond THEIR focus on their customers.

Intel could also be throwing incentives at them to push the newer processors that are faster than ARM and getting closer to a comparable power consumption level.

From the changes on the website, they are already pushing customers over to their Atom based Windows 8 tablets.

There's nothing inherently wrong with Windows RT. The apps are simply NOT there, so you can have great hardware but it's still gonna suck. Also, it probably confused consumers with the whole windows desktop thing

sn0wbl1tz said,
RIP Windows RT, a OS should never even started with.

Windows RT is Windows 8, but compiled for ARM. It is not going away.

In just semantics, it is the same OS running on WP8, with a different UI layer, as the WinSxS subsystem is not exposed on WP8.

(This isn't just lip service, due to how NT is designed, 99.99% of all code is the same from the Windows RT version to Windows Server 2012. A few x64->ARM changes and a different HAL, recompile.)

Mobius Enigma said,
Windows RT is Windows 8, but compiled for ARM. It is not going away.

Windows Server 2008 for Itanium was simply Windows Server 2008 but compiled for Itanium. It went away.

theyarecomingforyou said,
Windows Server 2008 for Itanium was simply Windows Server 2008 but compiled for Itanium. It went away.

Look what happened to the Itanium though, ARM isn't going anywhere so I don't think Windows RT will either.

theyarecomingforyou said,

Windows Server 2008 for Itanium was simply Windows Server 2008 but compiled for Itanium. It went away.

Itanium went away first... Just like Windows 2000 for Alpha, Compaq backed out of offering Windows 2000, as they wanted to kill off Alpha.

As long as ARM is a contender, Windows will be there, and if another platform architecture steps up to be consumer viable, Windows will move to it, as it can do rather easily.

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Microsoft has also been working behind the scenes with ARM, as they see it as an alternative for server farms due to power requirements, and will become an option when 64bit ARM arrives.

Since the mid 90s with WinCE, Microsoft put a lot of work into various non-x86/x64 technologies, including ARM. In 2008/2009 Microsoft knew NT was getting to the level it could replace WinCE, So it was was natural that ARM would continue to get support from Microsoft even for non-device class products as they would be able to transition the full NT OS over to ARM rather easily.

Microsoft SHOVED HARD for Intel to develop a x64 version of Atom several years ago, as they wanted to see low power server centers. Intel didn't take Microsoft seriously and Atom class and low power focus almost disappeared at Intel. It was the industry shift and Microsoft's support of ARM that gave Intel the incentive to focus on low power technologies.
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Edited by Mobius Enigma, Jul 18 2013, 2:11pm :

Lenovo churns models so quickly I don't see how this is news worthy,

New OS and new CPU's means models go out of date promptly

This is rather confusing since there are actually 2 versions of the Yoga 11, there's this RT model (which I actually never saw) and a version that runs normal 8 with a Core i5, just like the Yoga 13. Talk about confusing for a consumer.

This could also mean that they are going to release a new model with Windows RT 8.1 and are just clearing stock from retailers.

neo158 said,
This could also mean that they are going to release a new model with Windows RT 8.1 and are just clearing stock from retailers.

I hope so. Personally I wouldn't give up on ARM-based Windows. Unless Intel makes a huge leap forward in efficiency and costs Windows 8 won't be competitive with cheap and light Android tablets.

Then again if OEMs know more about the rumored OS that essentially is a successor to both RT and Windows Phone 8 then that could stop their RT plans immediately. As long as that new OS runs on RT and WP8 hardware then its something to look forward to.

Ronnet said,

Then again if OEMs know more about the rumored OS that essentially is a successor to both RT and Windows Phone 8 then that could stop their RT plans immediately.

I'm willing to bet that that successor will essentially be Windows RT with additional classes that offer the WP-specific functionality. Think about it, why should Microsoft in the long run have 2 similar yet different OSes, that use the same kernel, have similar APIs and run on the same hardware?
IMHO that doesn't make sense, just like they're not selling 2 different OSes for the desktop market.

That would be my dream scenario. When I switched back to Windows I hoped Microsoft would take it in this direction. Simplified there should be Windows for x86 and Windows for ARM. To the consumer: Windows with destop applications, Windows without desktop applications.

Both versions should run be as identical as possible and run on multiple devices. So whether you're running Windows for ARM on a tablet or on a phone, it should be the same OS with a UI that adapts to the screensize, resolution and formfactor.

So if someone would want to make an (expensive and powerful) phone running Windows for x86 it should have the same options to adapt the UI as Windows for ARM.

Ronnet said,
That would be my dream scenario. When I switched back to Windows I hoped Microsoft would take it in this direction. Simplified there should be Windows for x86 and Windows for ARM. To the consumer: Windows with destop applications, Windows without desktop applications.

Both versions should run be as identical as possible and run on multiple devices. So whether you're running Windows for ARM on a tablet or on a phone, it should be the same OS with a UI that adapts to the screensize, resolution and formfactor.

So if someone would want to make an (expensive and powerful) phone running Windows for x86 it should have the same options to adapt the UI as Windows for ARM.

I have one problem with your proposal, and it's the same problem I have with Windows RT. The CPU inside shouldn't have anything to do with whether the desktop is available and open to third-party software. Intel and ARM devices should both have a fully functional and unrestricted desktop ui.

I would also argue that the same OS could be used on all devices, and form factor or usage dictates which gui you use... when in touch mode use modern ui, when your device is docked or is an actual desktop PC, use desktop ui. Sounds like Ubuntu is going this route, and Microsoft is trying to as well, but the current product has some issues, especially on the ARM side of things.

That doesnt go against my proposal/hope for the future. I too want Microsoft to keep the desktop restriction free, on Windows for ARM as well. So in the rare case someone wants to port their x86 applications to ARM then they should be able to do so, just like MS brought Office to ARM.

Considering their bad rep they should make the desktop a bigger part of the experience (if PC users choose to do so) as well as remove restrictions/make Windows RT identical to Windows 8 but on another processor. So again the same operating sytem but on two different processors.

Ronnet said,

I hope so. Personally I wouldn't give up on ARM-based Windows. Unless Intel makes a huge leap forward in efficiency and costs Windows 8 won't be competitive with cheap and light Android tablets.

Then again if OEMs know more about the rumored OS that essentially is a successor to both RT and Windows Phone 8 then that could stop their RT plans immediately. As long as that new OS runs on RT and WP8 hardware then its something to look forward to.

There is no rumored OS...

The only 'rumor' that has any validity is the merging of WinRT and WP8's frameworks. This basically will be further cross platform ease as the products will be synonymous, and when running on a phone class device the UI will scope towards phone features and when running on a tablet/notebook, the UI will shift to offer more complex functionality.

NT is NOT going anywhere, it is the core technology that is letting Microsoft run a FULL OS on ARM class devices.

Mobius Enigma said,

There is no rumored OS...

The only 'rumor' that has any validity is the merging of WinRT and WP8's frameworks. This basically will be further cross platform ease as the products will be synonymous, and when running on a phone class device the UI will scope towards phone features and when running on a tablet/notebook, the UI will shift to offer more complex functionality.

NT is NOT going anywhere, it is the core technology that is letting Microsoft run a FULL OS on ARM class devices.

'' The company's goal is reportedly to consolidate Windows Phone 8 and Windows RT for tablets into a single OS '' - http://www.technobuffalo.com/2013/07/16/windows-phone-9/

Ronnet said,

'' The company's goal is reportedly to consolidate Windows Phone 8 and Windows RT for tablets into a single OS


That OS already exists: Windows RT. Add the WinPhoneRT-classes and you're good to go…

MFH said,

That OS already exists: Windows RT. Add the WinPhoneRT-classes and you're good to go…

Perhaps that is what they are doing, Or perhaps they are also creating one UI that works for both PCs, tablets and phones (and changes a but depending on screensize, resolution and screenformat).

Anyway there is a rumor that Microsoft is creating a new OS that is to be the successor to RT and WP. Perhaps from the inside it isnt all that different from RT. But then again regular Windows 8 isn't all that different from its predecessors either. I personally think it would be a game changer if the tablet and phone OS is the same.