LG to launch all-in-one ChromeOS-powered Chromebase PC on May 26

We have seen Google works with PC OEMs to launch cheap notebooks, Chromebooks that run on Chrome OS and we have also seen small Chromebox desktops with the OS. Today, the first ever Chrome OS all-in-one PC, the LG Chromebase, got a launch date and price for the U.S. market.

The LG Chromebase, which has already gone on sale in Australia, has a 21.5-inch screen, Intel Celeron 2955U Haswell processor, 2GB of RAM, and 16GB of SSD storage. It will also come with 100GB of free storage space via Google Drive for two years. The PC will go on sale for $349.99 starting on May 26 at online retailers such as Amazon, Newegg and others.

Today's LG reveal was just one in a series of Chrome OS announcements from both Intel and Google. Later this year, PC makers such as Dell and Acer will release new Chromebooks that have Intel's fourth-generation Core i3 processors. Other Chromebooks will have Intel's upcoming Celeron Bay Trail-M system-on-chip processors that up to 11 hours of battery life. Intel said that 20 Chrome OS-based devices already have or will have processors from the company inside by the end of 2014, up from just four in 2013.

Source: LG on PRNewswire | Image via LG

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You know that meme with the guy and the stick poking something with "Go Away" under it?

That. Hopefully Chrome OS will bugger off, mind you, failure has not stopped Google pushing something. Look at Google+

No malware, no antivirus needed. Just plug it in, connect to the internet, and go. Simple and easy for those who just need to browse the web and light document editing. Plus, upkeep on these cant be that much.

Dont have a use for one myself. Heck, I still have a Netbook I use once or twice a year.

techbeck said,
No malware, no antivirus needed. Just plug it in, connect to the internet, and go. Simple and easy for those who just need to browse the web and light document editing. Plus, upkeep on these cant be that much.

Dont have a use for one myself. Heck, I still have a Netbook I use once or twice a year.

Um, this is ChromeOS, it is not malware free.

(Do a quick web search.)

Mobius Enigma said,

Um, this is ChromeOS, it is not malware free.

(Do a quick web search.)

This is Chrome OS and Chrome Books/PCs. Maybe you should do a websearch. OR is this another case of a user confusing Android and ChromeOS.

Currently, no malware on ChromeBooks/PCs but like anything else, that can always change.

Edited by techbeck, May 7 2014, 1:56am :

techbeck said,

This is Chrome OS and Chrome Books/PCs. Maybe you should do a websearch. OR is this another case of a user confusing Android and ChromeOS.

Currently, no malware on ChromeBooks/PCs but like anything else, that can always change.

I would liken the current state of relative virus safety to that of Macs. It's a matter of numbers for the virus writers. Just not enough users to make it worthwhile.

The people who would buy ChromeBooks are going to fall to phishing attacks before viruses anyway. However, that would still be true regardless of OS.

Considering it's you can't actually install software on the thing, yea it's not going to get "traditional" malware, barring exploiting vulnerabilities of course. What's much more likely is malicious extensions in the Chrome store which can do more or less the same thing, which already has happened. Multiple times.

techbeck said,

This is Chrome OS and Chrome Books/PCs. Maybe you should do a websearch. OR is this another case of a user confusing Android and ChromeOS.

Currently, no malware on ChromeBooks/PCs but like anything else, that can always change.

Exploits that target Chrome can also target ChromeOS.

http://www.computerworld.com/s...th_of_Chrome_Chrome_OS_bugs

...OR is another case of a user confusing ChromeOS with unicorns and the voices in their head.

ok, I get it. So you are using BUGs found that in theory, hackers could use to compromise ChromeOS. Bugs that have already been patched and have not been used to compromise anything.

got it, thanks for the clarification.

It's not just the exploits you have to worry about (which obviously are serious but usually patched quickly, if somebody knows about them anyway) but malicious extensions as well.

Max Norris said,
It's not just the exploits you have to worry about (which obviously are serious but usually patched quickly, if somebody knows about them anyway) but malicious extensions as well.

Has the Chrome OS/Chromebooks been compromised by one of these extensions or was it just the browser running on Windows?

techbeck said,
Has the Chrome OS/Chromebooks been compromised by one of these extensions or was it just the browser running on Windows?

Well considering they both run the same extensions... but yes, it already has several times now, some from the Chrome store as well. Malicious extensions don't care what OS you're on since they're written in JavaScript.

Same extensions, but they dont run/execute the same on Chrome OS as they do a browser running Windows. The links I have seen concerning Chrome malware extensions either point to the browser on Windows, or doesnt specify what platform.

No, they certainly do. There was even a proof of concept showing how to do exactly that, including stealing information and running other code, and they're even potentially more dangerous on ChromeOS as they have more capability.

Google search? Not going to do your homework for you. Look no further than their own support forums with people asking for help about their Chromebooks suddenly feeding advertisements/etc, plenty of whitepapers about how a malicious or poorly written extension/app can be a security problem, etc etc. I get you got this need to defend anything Google but come on.. no OS is bulletproof. None. If you can add stuff to it, you can wreck it, plain and simple.

Simple no would of sufficed. And I did search and like I said before, only thing I am seeing is related to Windows or it doesnt specify. Figured since you already read this, you would have a source link. But thanks anyway.

techbeck said,
Figured since you already read this, you would have a source link. But thanks anyway.

Lol whatever man, just do a search on chromeos scratchpad hack for the first proof of concept from a couple years ago, yes that particular app's been fixed but read on about how it could be duplicated in others that are intentionally done with loose permissions.. you know, the malicious extensions/apps they occasionally find in the store? (Even reported here on Neowin's front page not too long ago...) There's other whitepapers warning of the exact same sort of problems. Then go look at their support forums.. oh look, more malicious extensions on ChromeOS. (I'm hoping you can find where that is at, turn in your Junior Googler badge if you can't..) And "doesn't specify" implies "not specific" to a particular platform or OS don't you think? The facts are out there, if you want to ignore it, that's on you.

Links that dont specifiy what platform this covers does not necessarily mean any platform. That is making assumptions and guessing. And proof of concepts and what is in the real world is completely different. Not denying what you said about the extensions, just wanted more info that I wasnt seeing.

Not ignoring anything here. I simply asked for a source link since you seem to know/read about this. I am not denying anything, just want to read more about it. If you dont have a source link, fine...but dont accuse me of things. If you dont have a source, fine...I will look more in to it when I have the time.

techbeck said,
Links that dont specifiy what platform this covers does not necessarily mean any platform. That is making assumptions and guessing. And proof of concepts and what is in the real world is completely different. Not denying what you said about the extensions, just wanted more info that I wasnt seeing.

Not ignoring anything here. I simply asked for a source link since you seem to know/read about this. I am not denying anything, just want to read more about it. If you dont have a source link, fine...but dont accuse me of things. If you dont have a source, fine...I will look more in to it when I have the time.

Ok, taking the FIRST link, and I'll even copy some of the text so you don't have to work too hard...

Google recently held its Pwnium competition in which hackers are awarded for finding original and unreported exploits relying on security bugs in Chrome OS including Chrome coupled with Flash / Chrome OS kernel and firmware / default apps on Chrome OS.

Congratulations to geohot for an epic Pwnium competition win. Pinkie Pie provided a fascinating set of vulnerabilities that will be rewarded through the Chrome VRP program. Moreover, one of the bugs exploited by VUPEN on Pwn2Own affected Chrome OS.

http://itechnow.com/geohot-win...0000-for-chromeos-exploits/

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Now, you are going to try another tangential argument and say that you don't know of anything in the wild. The problem with this, is that there is NO WAY to know if these exploits or other exploits have or are being used in the wild.

If you want an OS with ZERO Malware, you realize you can just run Windows RT, Windows 8 and disable non-WinRT Apps, or even Windows Phone. They all have ZERO Malware.

You act like ChromeOS is invulnerable to Malware, and it is NOT.

Even the locked down and sandboxed WinRT and WPRT in theory should never get malware, but just because this has held true so far, doesn't mean malware is impossible.


Edited by Mobius Enigma, May 7 2014, 9:16pm :

Mobius Enigma said,

Now, you are going to try another tangential argument and say that you don't know of anything in the wild. The problem with this, is that there is NO WAY to know if these exploits or other exploits have or are being used in the wild.

If you knew you didn't have proof, why bother replying

And from your intial reply to me, and how you are continuing, it is obviois you dont want to have a real convo. Have a good evening.

techbeck said,

If you knew you didn't have proof, why bother replying

And from your intial reply to me, and how you are continuing, it is obviois you dont want to have a real convo. Have a good evening.

Thanks for all those good counterpoints. I will accept your concession on this subject.

techbeck said,

If you knew you didn't have proof, why bother replying

And from your intial reply to me, and how you are continuing, it is obviois you dont want to have a real convo. Have a good evening.

Summary of trying to have a discussion with Techbeck...

Techbeck: ChromeOS doesn't have viruses.
Max Norris: Uhhhh... yes it does. Just google it.
Techbeck: I can't find the article. You must be confused.
Mobius Enigma: Look! Explicit proof.
Techbeck: Your proof is not the RIGHT KIND of proof. Waaaaaaaaah, I quit!

That's hilarious bud. I'm pretty sure that ALL of the other readers can see through your insincere charade. Good luck with life and all that.

Hambone72 said,

That's hilarious bud. I'm pretty sure that ALL of the other readers can see through your insincere charade. Good luck with life and all that.

If people cannot tell the difference from something in the wild actually infecting systems with something that is theoretical (not in the wild) and has already been patched, then that is not my problem. And normally when someone claims something, it is their responsibility to prove definitive proof. That is debating 101. If you cannot backup your argument with proof, then go home. And what ifs is not proof.

And I will have, and am having, a great time with life. Thanks :)

Edited by techbeck, May 8 2014, 3:16pm :

The crazy thing about these devices...

Even at this entry level of hardware, Windows 8.1 is marginally faster than ChromeOS.

Next factor in that you can run Photoshop or higher end software with Windows 8.1 and it just doesn't make a lot of sense even for casual users.


Yet there will always be people that will buy unbelievably crippled hardware just to save a few dozen bucks, just look at printers...

It's cheap because it's a 21.5" web browser. Lot's of talk about Chrome but the market numbers from the online trackers show it's really, really struggling.

mrp04 said,
why do people buy these?
It will run Outlook.com and Office Online fine - enough for many people. Everything is web-based these days - doesn't matter what OS you use (unless you're a gamer).

68k said,
It will run Outlook.com and Office Online fine - enough for many people. Everything is web-based these days - doesn't matter what OS you use (unless you're a gamer).

why would you buy this crap over a basic pc which will do all that this does and more? I see no reason at all.

mrp04 said,
why do people buy these?

Because, price. Plus it looks a bit like an iMac or MacBook. But once people get them home...

nickcruz said,

why would you buy this crap over a basic pc which will do all that this does and more? I see no reason at all.

Chrome OS is Windows virus/spyware/adware-proof. This will be good choice for people who don't know much about computers (just want to check email, look at family photos, do basic word/spreadsheet processing, and browse the web). These people still exist, and will for a while.

the same reason a lot of people now only use tablet devices and not laptops, convenience, ease of use and pretty much everything is done via an app or web page.

Joswin said,

Because, price. Plus it looks a bit like an iMac or MacBook. But once people get them home...


Most chromebooks available to me here in NL, for a decent one, are 300+ euro's. And often I get better hardware when I go with a Windows based system for the same price.
Chromebook simple dual core cpu, 2gb of ram vs a quadcore with 4gb ram + windows.... easy choice

There is a "Start" button, and they don't have to pay $100 to Microsoft for their non usable Windows 8 OS requiring a powerful computer.