Lock-screen and new notification icons shown on WP8?

A reader over at WPCentral has noticed that Microsoft’s Start screen video contains a glimpse of Windows Phone 8’s lock-screen which indicates notifications will be present on the lock-screen interface also. Additionally, it appears the old Windows logo is used for Hotmail or Live notifications.

The shot (pictured below) was roughly snapped at the 2:15 mark: 

We’re aware that one of the key problems in Windows Phone 7 is the lack of a specific area to view all notifications, and more importantly if a notification comes in from third-party apps, and you just so happen to miss it, there’s no way of seeing that notification again.

We've seen what Google is doing with notifications drop-down in Jellybean, and what Apple is doing with iOS and its notifications, but it’d be nice to see if Microsoft can think of a new innovative way to notify users of missed notifications, because we personally feel that Microsoft’s new mobile platform needs it. We're just hoping the new revamped notification system supports third-party apps this time round.

Source: WPCentral

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Well, the thinking now is that you can pick what to show on the lock screen like on Windows 8 but I don't think this is all of the notification related changes that are coming in WP8. We might not get a notification center but there are hints that they've done more in that area. Guess we'll just have to wait and see.

I do get FB notifications for the app, it's just slow like many have said, I blame FB for this because other apps work on time and quick.

I've had a similar experience with Android. I had Gingerbread (2.3.5) installed for about a year and during that time, I received very few Facebook notifications. I had all of the options enabled but it just didn't work. Once I upgraded to Ice Cream Sandwich (4.0.4), and changing nothing with regard to Facebook, I now receive them regularly. They're almost always garbage, but I get them now.

I don't think we're going to see any further notification enhancements for WP8. Even in Windows 8, notifications are you-see-it-if-you-see-it.

The lack of a central notification center is definitely something I find annoying about Windows Phone.

.Neo said,
The lack of a central notification center is definitely something I find annoying about Windows Phone.

Me too. I was further disappointed when the Windows 8 Release Preview was released without a notification centre. I feel both operating systems should have one, just like iOS and OS X (with Mountain Lion) both have one. I find the Notifications API in Windows 8 great, but it would be better if there was a central place for us to check our notifications. I'm concerned that the lack of a notification centre in Windows 8 is an indication there won't be one in Windows Phone 8; if it isn't, then more consistency is desired by me.

Edited by Calum, Jul 12 2012, 1:03pm :

Calum said,

Me too. I was further disappointed when the Windows 8 Release Preview was released without a notification centre. I feel both operating systems should have one, just like iOS and OS X (with Mountain Lion) both have one. I find the Notifications API in Windows 8 great, but it would be better if there was a central place for us to check our notifications.

Their idea (though imperfect), is that the tiles on your start screen act as your notification centre.

~Johnny said,
Their idea (though imperfect), is that the tiles on your start screen act as your notification centre.

Microsoft makes this HUGE deal about Windows Phone's Live Tiles. Yet the Music + Video and Facebook apps for example are static. Especially Facebook concerned it's extremely annoying there are zero notifications until I open the app itself. What's up with that?

~Johnny said,

Their idea (though imperfect), is that the tiles on your start screen act as your notification centre.

The thing is: it's scattered. We need a real destination for all notifications. It just makes sense. Who at MS scoffs at this idea that many of us desire? It's nuts.

~Johnny said,

Their idea (though imperfect), is that the tiles on your start screen act as your notification centre.


I thought that might be the case. I just need to be convinced that their idea is better than a notification centre They must believe it is, if that is actually their idea.

.Neo said,
Okay, I just read Facebook is supposed to give me notifications. I just don't seem to get them…

Yes, the notifications implementation in that app is awful. I rarely receive toast notifications from it, and when I do, I've seen that notification on the Facebook website 10 minutes or half an hour before. Facebook notifications on Windows Phone are just awful all round, at the moment, and it's one of my biggest gripes with the operating system. I don't want to have to check the Facebook website every few minutes in order to be instantly informed of new notifications; I would like my phone to inform me when I receive a new notification, the instant I receive it.

~Johnny said,

Their idea (though imperfect), is that the tiles on your start screen act as your notification centre.

but that requires you arranging your own notifications. apple also had badges before they had a notification center,

Calum said,

Yes, the notifications implementation in that app is awful. I rarely receive toast notifications from it, and when I do, I've seen that notification on the Facebook website 10 minutes or half an hour before. Facebook notifications on Windows Phone are just awful all round, at the moment, and it's one of my biggest gripes with the operating system. I don't want to have to check the Facebook website every few minutes in order to be instantly informed of new notifications; I would like my phone to inform me when I receive a new notification, the instant I receive it.

It is slow for a reason... Instant notifications require excessive battery drain as you'll need to ping a server constantly.

But maybe they should allow users to turn on polling at the expense of their battery life.

Frazell Thomas said,
It is slow for a reason... Instant notifications require excessive battery drain as you'll need to ping a server constantly.

But maybe they should allow users to turn on polling at the expense of their battery life.


Doesn't Facebook have some kind of push notification service?

Frazell Thomas said,
It is slow for a reason... Instant notifications require excessive battery drain as you'll need to ping a server constantly.

That's why Allah created push notifications...

.Neo said,
Okay, I just read Facebook is supposed to give me notifications. I just don't seem to get them…

You have to open the Facebook App on WP7 and turn them on. Since most WP7 users seldom use the actual Facebook App, they just use the Live Tiles for notifications from all sources.

Why monkey with Facebook only notifications, when the OS is providing information from Twitter, Mail, Messaging, etc for anyone or group in the People Hub.

thenetavenger said,

[. . .]
Why monkey with Facebook only notifications, when the OS is providing information from Twitter, Mail, Messaging, etc for anyone or group in the People Hub.

The operating system annoyingly doesn't provide toast notifications for the content in the People hub. One has to periodically look at the tile, which only checks for notifications every 30 minutes. The Facebook app provides toast notifications, but they rarely work.

Edited by Calum, Jul 12 2012, 6:11pm :

thenetavenger said,
You have to open the Facebook App on WP7 and turn them on. Since most WP7 users seldom use the actual Facebook App, they just use the Live Tiles for notifications from all sources.

I did that...

Wut? The M+V tile is dynamic, what else do you want? I've also don't have an issue with FB notifications, either through the ME tile (preferred) or via the app tile.

I'll take Lock Screen / Live Tiles over a Notification Center any day. I'm glad MS is doing it their way and not taking the cumbersome way out.

.Neo said,

Microsoft makes this HUGE deal about Windows Phone's Live Tiles. Yet the Music + Video and Facebook apps for example are static. Especially Facebook concerned it's extremely annoying there are zero notifications until I open the app itself. What's up with that?

Yeah Facebook (and everyone else for that matter) should take note from LinkedIn. Their WP app is amazing and their Live Tile flips around showing you number of notifications and inmails.

ahhell said,
Umm....WP7.5 already shows new messages/phone calls/appointments on the lock screen.

Not just WP 7.5, but it's been in Windows Phone since 7.0 - i.e, since always

The only difference here in this screenshot, is that the hotmail icon is no longer an envelope, but a Windows flag.

~Johnny said,

Not just WP 7.5, but it's been in Windows Phone since 7.0 - i.e, since always

The only difference here in this screenshot, is that the hotmail icon is no longer an envelope, but a Windows flag.


I find the current icons much better.

~Johnny said,

Not just WP 7.5, but it's been in Windows Phone since 7.0 - i.e, since always

The only difference here in this screenshot, is that the hotmail icon is no longer an envelope, but a Windows flag.


We don't know for sure that's the Hotmail icon The Windows logo could signify operating system notifications (i.e. any notifications shown by the operating system, including those from third-party apps that use the operating system's API for notifications).