Lots of folks trading in old iPhones ahead of iPhone 5 launch

When the iPhone 4S launched in October 2011, many people who had already bought an iPhone 4 decided not to jump in and buy the new version of Apple's iOS smartphone. Basically, they felt that the iPhone 4S wasn't as much of an evolution in terms of the hardware compared to earlier versions.

Now, it looks like all those rumors of a redesign for the iPhone 5, including a larger screen and possible LTE support, is finally giving people an excuse to ditch the iPhone 4. USA Today reports that online electronics price quote company NextWorth has seen lots of people checking out quotes for their older iPhones in hopes of trading them in for a new iPhone 5.

According to NextWorth, the number of quotes created by old iPhone owners on their website went up a whopping 610 percent from August 17th to September 6th, compared to the same three weeks before the launch of the iPhone 4S in October. About half of those iPhone trades are for the iPhone 4, but 20 percent are for the newer iPhone 4S.

Yet another online electronics product quote site, Gazelle, also reports higher than normal activity from iPhone owners in the past few weeks but specifics were not announced. However, it definitely feels there is going to be a large demand for the iPhone 5 from older iPhone owners.

Source: USA Today | Image via Apple

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Dear Phone User,

You're infringing on the color white. We invented it. Prepared to be sued.

Love,

Apple.

FYI Kiddies, Apple has invented NONE of the products they sell. They've only stolen. They're have the creativity of a Quadriplegic with Downs Syndrome in a bathtub covered in peanut butter.

VoX said,
Dear Phone User,

You're infringing on the color white. We invented it. Prepared to be sued.

Love,

Apple.

FYI Kiddies, Apple has invented NONE of the products they sell. They've only stolen. They're have the creativity of a Quadriplegic with Downs Syndrome in a bathtub covered in peanut butter.

Time of the month? Or you one of the tin foil hat brigade with all the 'evidence' to back up your claim? Move on, seriously.

I will be ordering one ASAP! I've been stuck with this Samsung Focus for almost 2 years and really cant stand the thing. One of the most annoying features is the "back" button when surfing the surfing the internet. If I exit Internet Explorer and then resume later on, the back button takes you to a different app instead of the last page in Internet Explorer. Annoying as hell!

Because the iPhone 5 is the only device specifically that can fix this, eventhough people know almost nothing about it.................. UM WHAT?!?!?!?!?!

JHBrown said,
I will be ordering one ASAP! I've been stuck with this Samsung Focus for almost 2 years and really cant stand the thing. One of the most annoying features is the "back" button when surfing the surfing the internet. If I exit Internet Explorer and then resume later on, the back button takes you to a different app instead of the last page in Internet Explorer. Annoying as hell!
Your logic makes no sense. Second, maybe you shouldn't have bought a Focus or a Windows Phone for that matter (not commenting on W8).

So, you get no back button on the iPhone at all and no multitasking ability. How's that going to work for "going back a page"? You could just use the in-browser back button. Just a thought....

You don't have to own an Android phone to be a Android Fanboy. Just like you don't have to own any Apple products to be an Apple Fanboy.

But anyone with half a brain should own Apple Stocks. Anyone that refuses to do so because they hate the company is 100% an idiot. Their brand value WORKS! That's all that matters. And they don't make that bad of a product.

Hardcore Til I Die said,
In other news, president Obama is black and the sky is blue.

Talk about stating the obvious Neowin


The sky is not blue, anyway buy a windows phone ios is old news. Windows phones are the future give it a few months after windows 8 is released for real and your see a crap load of apps being developed.

Hardcore Til I Die said,
In other news, president Obama is black and the sky is blue.

Talk about stating the obvious Neowin

I thought he was mixed? And as stated already, the sky is not blue but this isn't a site for getting into detail about that one.

MrAnalysis said,


The sky is not blue, anyway buy a windows phone ios is old news. Windows phones are the future give it a few months after windows 8 is released for real and your see a crap load of apps being developed.

Only an utter nerd would say that the sky isn't blue

Dear god that thing is small. Was is really that tiny? Might as well have a Blackberry or a dumb phone with something that small.

Every time a new iPhone comes out I see the most retarded news stories and claims.

iPhone 5 will disrupt mobile industry, says analyst - CNet

"Rival phone makers, PC vendors, wireless carriers, and parts suppliers all stand to be affected by the shock wave created by the new phone."

Why the iPhone 5 launch will be the "biggest upgrade in consumer electronics history" - ZDNet

iPhone 5 will raise the GDP of America when it's released, JP Morgan - numerous news outlets

Seriously, wtf is wrong with people.....

Edited by KCRic, Sep 11 2012, 5:47pm :

KCRic said,
Dear god that thing is small. Was is really that tiny? Might as well have a Blackberry or a dumb phone with something that small.

Every time a new iPhone comes out I see the most retarded news stories and claims.

iPhone 5 will disrupt mobile industry, says analyst - CNet

"Rival phone makers, PC vendors, wireless carriers, and parts suppliers all stand to be affected by the shock wave created by the new phone."

Why the iPhone 5 launch will be the "biggest upgrade in consumer electronics history" - ZDNet

iPhone 5 will raise the GDP of America when it's released, JP Morgan - numerous news outlets

Seriously, wtf is wrong with people.....

You also get a free lifetime license to Club Smug with it

i have an older 3gs that has served me fine, as well as an older Optimus One that i hate very much. I am looking forward to "upgrading" to a used Iphone4 for cheap from the masses that will be upgrading. Good time too to pick up maybe a couple 3gs's for employees

rippleman said,
i have an older 3gs that has served me fine, as well as an older Optimus One that i hate very much. I am looking forward to "upgrading" to a used Iphone4 for cheap from the masses that will be upgrading. Good time too to pick up maybe a couple 3gs's for employees
not just get everyone an iPhone 4? Stop being cheap.

It's an evolution from the 4s, higher screen (16:9 4"), LTE (see if they match the Nokia 920/820 pentaband LTE support), iOS 6 and a new all digital connector. It'll be thinner because it's higher, same volume. new camera but same pixelcount. Apple believes the width of the 4S is optimal so that won't change.

Don't see much more coming. But who knows. At least we'll know if Apple is able to keep the momentum and iCrowd rally going in the first major post-Jobs event. I see Apple stock drop to about 550 by this time tomorrow.

FISKER_Q said,
coincidentally, insurance companies are registering a 1000% increase in iPhone related cases.

Thought iPhone/apple users were a more sophisticated and affluent crowd?

technikal said,

Thought iPhone/apple users were a more sophisticated and affluent crowd?

They are, but only at getting ripped off by Apple.

I sold my 4 a few weeks ago in anticipation for the next iPhone... then I saw the Samsung ATIV S and I'm torn between the two - more in the favour of the WP8 device it's to be said!

This is what I dont understand about Apple fans (I'm an Apple user, btw). This obsession with having the latest of everything ignoring the fact that Apple hardware is very well built and can last for years if proper care is done.

I know I will hold on on my 4S for at least another two years.

sanctified said,
This is what I dont understand about Apple fans (I'm an Apple user, btw). This obsession with having the latest of everything ignoring the fact that Apple hardware is very well built and can last for years if proper care is done.

I know I will hold on on my 4S for at least another two years.

If it was simply an 'S' version I wouldn't care. But this is a major upgrade, and will include LTE which will ensure that it does indeed last for years. Certainly in the UK, when LTE probably wont be around for a lot of people till 2013.

sanctified said,
This is what I dont understand about Apple fans (I'm an Apple user, btw). This obsession with having the latest of everything ignoring the fact that Apple hardware is very well built and can last for years if proper care is done.

I know I will hold on on my 4S for at least another two years.

Indeed. I have an iPhone 4 (not S) as my work phone and it blows my mind that this is the worst / cheapest iPhone they offer now the 3GS has been dropped. The retina display is still great and it runs nice and fast. Crazy!

Also it'd be pretty funny if Apple just announced a price drop on the existing handsets and didn't actually release any new ones All the folks who sold their old phones would be going ballistic

sanctified said,
This is what I dont understand about Apple fans (I'm an Apple user, btw). This obsession with having the latest of everything ignoring the fact that Apple hardware is very well built and can last for years if proper care is done.

I know I will hold on on my 4S for at least another two years.

Well, might as well while you can still get a good return on your current phone. I still see people asking more then what I paid for when I got the 4, and getting it.

how many apple fans do you know compared to apple users?

sanctified said,
This is what I dont understand about Apple fans (I'm an Apple user, btw). This obsession with having the latest of everything ignoring the fact that Apple hardware is very well built and can last for years if proper care is done.

I know I will hold on on my 4S for at least another two years.

rippleman said,
how many apple fans do you know compared to apple users?

Quite honestly 8 out of 10 Apple product owners I know are Apple fans

higher maybe in the states then here... i looked around here and 0% of the 100+ people that i know that have an apple product is a fan, they like what they use yes, but not in a fan way

sanctified said,

Quite honestly 8 out of 10 Apple product owners I know are Apple fans

rippleman said,
higher maybe in the states then here... i looked around here and 0% of the 100+ people that i know that have an apple product is a fan, they like what they use yes, but not in a fan way

I dont live in the states.

sanctified said,
This is what I dont understand about Apple fans (I'm an Apple user, btw). This obsession with having the latest of everything ignoring the fact that Apple hardware is very well built and can last for years if proper care is done.

I know I will hold on on my 4S for at least another two years.

I have been asking this for years. The fans will repeatedly tell us that Apple products use the latest (Thunderbolt) tech, the highest quality components, the best designed, and do not have the problems of the competition, and products that will last a long time.

And yet, we see product after product with problems over heating. Product after product with problems with the screens. Product after product with components such as graphic chips that malfunction - and then it is claimed that it is not Apple's fault that the components failed (as if Apple could not verify that the components worked before shipping them). Product after product that ships with out of date tech such as long waits for the latest Intel chips, 3G, LTE, and rather than put a Blu-Ray drive in the computer, they just remove optical.

But in the end, there is a mad scramble to sell their Apple gear when a rumor of the next version will be available. We don't need 3G, it is battery draining and not well supported. But in one day they forget all their attacks on 3G, AT&T solved all the 3G availability problems, and the iPhone set the "standard" for connectivity (even though I was using 3G on my Blackjack for years before the iPhone 3G).

If Apple is perfection, why the rush to get rid of Apple gear?

Quite literally a laugh and a half will be had if anyone/fanboy uses LTE as some excuse to congratulate Apple on another quality product.

They're so far behind the times now that it's pretty sad.

technikal said,
Quite literally a laugh and a half will be had if anyone/fanboy uses LTE as some excuse to congratulate Apple on another quality product.

They're so far behind the times now that it's pretty sad.

Shh, don't burst their bubble. Atleast, not yet

technikal said,
Quite literally a laugh and a half will be had if anyone/fanboy uses LTE as some excuse to congratulate Apple on another quality product.

They're so far behind the times now that it's pretty sad.

What a silly comment. LTE was not matured enough to be useful to most people, its unavailable to many even now! It's also battery draining.

Apple implemented it now when the time was right, not (as it has been) to tick a box on a feature sheet to give android users a spec-boner?

LTE isn't a selling point for me because, you know, we don't have it, and we probably won't get it for a while. We just got 3G in January of 2010.

JessJess said,

What a silly comment. LTE was not matured enough to be useful to most people, its unavailable to many even now! It's also battery draining.

Apple implemented it now when the time was right, not (as it has been) to tick a box on a feature sheet to give android users a spec-boner?

I couldn't disagree more. Someone has to implement the spec, someone has to vet the technology. As with the PC space Apple does from time to time create something new -- but they frequently suffer from a NCH mentality and choose to let others forge ahead into untested waters when the tech's not homegrown. In general Apple lags behind technologically in every market they're in -- their PCs are almost always 2-3 generations behind Windows based PCs. Please don't insult us by defending their decision to be overly conservative with fanboy rhetoric, we see right through it. Thank you.

JessJess said,

What a silly comment. LTE was not matured enough to be useful to most people, its unavailable to many even now! It's also battery draining.

Apple implemented it now when the time was right, not (as it has been) to tick a box on a feature sheet to give android users a spec-boner?

lol. Spec-boner. So true.

JessJess said,

What a silly comment. LTE was not matured enough to be useful to most people, its unavailable to many even now! It's also battery draining.

Apple implemented it now when the time was right, not (as it has been) to tick a box on a feature sheet to give android users a spec-boner?

Sorry but LOL.

I see from your profile you're in the UK. You just mentioned you sold your 4S so you could presumably buy an iphone 5 in the near future.

So you'll buy a phone that is finally capable of LTE right on release and still only get 3G speeds? Applelogic

It's available to millions in Canada for example. And the USA. And other parts of Europe and Asia. Even a few of the those super rich African countries have deployments. Not ready? Give me a break. The networks arrive and phone manufacturers and OS developers get their devices out to coordinate with it or soon after.

Shame the UK is being slow in this respect. Doesn't mean apple has picked the right time. I'm just waiting for some of the UK based fanclub to arrive tomorrow and say how they just had to buy the visionary device that supports LTE and then pay for access to 3G networks because there is no commercial 4G service there yet.

They're behind the curve on this one I'm afraid. A good year or two behind it in some parts of the world. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_LTE_networks

I could care less if it's a box on a spec sheet. I prefer to have a device that actually supports the latest standards and technology. The time's very much right when I look at my phone and see it firing along at over 30Mbit most of the time. Didn't involve waiting until Sept 2012 to get it though.

It's typical Apple though. Remember when they released the original iphone and thought it was a super cool idea to give you EDGE?

ahinson said,
Please don't insult us by defending their decision to be overly conservative with fanboy rhetoric, we see right through it. Thank you.

Couple of points. Firstly, if you know anything about Apple you know that they do no include technology in their devices until they consider it mature enough and/or useful. That is why they "lag behind" technologically as you call it, they do not play "Spec Wars".

Their "PCs" are almost always 2-3 generations behind you say? Really? So what is 3 generations ahead of Ivy Bridge? Can you show me a 15" notebook with a 2880 x 1800 display?

Lastly :') the fact you have to resort to calling me a fanboy just because I had a differing opinion to yours helps us see right through you. Thank you.

JessJess said,

Couple of points. Firstly, if you know anything about Apple you know that they do no include technology in their devices until they consider it mature enough and/or useful. That is why they "lag behind" technologically as you call it, they do not play "Spec Wars".

Their "PCs" are almost always 2-3 generations behind you say? Really? So what is 3 generations ahead of Ivy Bridge? Can you show me a 15" notebook with a 2880 x 1800 display?

Lastly :') the fact you have to resort to calling me a fanboy just because I had a differing opinion to yours helps us see right through you. Thank you.

Show me a purpose for a 2880 x 1800 display on a Mac. Games? I'll lol myself into my grave if you say that. Movies? Since the standard is 1080p on movies that's an awful waste. Besides, I have a 50" at home for movies. Oh, you must do a ton of photo processing just like every other hipster that thinks they're doing great, important things in life whilst sitting at Starbucks.

They are behind the time. You're just letting your lack of logical thinking on this blind you and lead you into trying to find logic in order to explain away something inexcusable.

JessJess said,

Couple of points. Firstly, if you know anything about Apple you know that they do no include technology in their devices until they consider it mature enough and/or useful. That is why they "lag behind" technologically as you call it, they do not play "Spec Wars".

Their "PCs" are almost always 2-3 generations behind you say? Really? So what is 3 generations ahead of Ivy Bridge? Can you show me a 15" notebook with a 2880 x 1800 display?

Lastly :') the fact you have to resort to calling me a fanboy just because I had a differing opinion to yours helps us see right through you. Thank you.

Just going to do a summary of your post

1st paragraph: Apple stays behind because they don't engage in "spec wars".
2nd paragraph: Disregards first paragraph and tries to find area where apple leads.
3rd paragraph: Disputes being called a fanboy despite being the person who, on the first post in this thread, mentions selling their other apple device "specifically" because a new one was coming. This, despite knowing nothing about the new device. And you're the same person fanboying it to max with clown comments like "LTE wasn't ready so that's why iPhones don't have it".

KCRic said,
Oh, you must do a ton of photo processing just like every other hipster that thinks they're doing great, important things in life whilst sitting at Starbucks.

Stopped taking your opinion seriously there.

I see your logic, World Of Warcraft on Mac is surely not helping Blizzard out in any way. Oh wait, yes it has.

KCRic said,
Show me a purpose for a 2880 x 1800 display on a Mac. Games? I'll lol myself into my grave if you say that.

NeoPogo said,
I see your logic, World Of Warcraft on Mac is surely not helping Blizzard out in any way. Oh wait, yes it has.

Interesting, you've got one game to mention. that's a huge statement being made there for games on Macs.

JessJess said,

Stopped taking your opinion seriously there.

Yet you commented. You got s**t on and now you're whining. That post was the best you had, admit it. Or not, I really don't care. You've yet to have any actual reasons as to why Apple isn't behind in everything. You claim they like to "wait until the tech has matured" - I guess that explains the retina display, right? Or insane resolution on a laptop using an OS which has very few games. Even if it did, how would you play any of the best games out without being able to upgrade the GPU?

Something tells me you do sit a Panera or a bistro typing some important story that will change the world someday. That story is called denial.

Edited by KCRic, Sep 11 2012, 6:28pm :

TechieXP said,
de where in the world do u live? I am on VZW and I an not even 50% that fast.

we're on verizon here and we see speeds like that on LTE here, generally in the 30+Mbit range

JessJess said,

Couple of points. Firstly, if you know anything about Apple you know that they do no include technology in their devices until they consider it mature enough and/or useful. That is why they "lag behind" technologically as you call it, they do not play "Spec Wars".

Their "PCs" are almost always 2-3 generations behind you say? Really? So what is 3 generations ahead of Ivy Bridge? Can you show me a 15" notebook with a 2880 x 1800 display?

Lastly :') the fact you have to resort to calling me a fanboy just because I had a differing opinion to yours helps us see right through you. Thank you.

Prior to their hardware refresh, they were on the original i7. Not Sandy Bridge or Ivy Bridge ... i7, that's 2 gens delayed. Since Apply just did a refresh to "catch up". Meanwhile in normal PC land, you could buy a new machine and get the new hardware the same day, while Apple was still forcing a 2 yr old cpu down your throat. Not to mention, Haswell is about to drop. Who knows how long an Apple consumer is gong to have to wait for that?

I see your spec-boner and raise you irrational thinking and obvious bias. /thread

Edited by ahinson, Sep 11 2012, 7:53pm :

KCRic said,
Yet you commented. You got s**t on and now you're whining.

If you cant think of a key use for the higher DPI and resolution when its so clearly pointed out for any idiot to see (if you just go off and look for it it will take you a minute - here is a clue, try Apples website) then what I can say. If you have to resort to petty name calling to get your point across, then I have no respect for you.

You have me beat, in the game of retards you really do outclass me.

JessJess said,

If you cant think of a key use for the higher DPI and resolution when its so clearly pointed out for any idiot to see (if you just go off and look for it it will take you a minute - here is a clue, try Apples website) then what I can say. If you have to resort to petty name calling to get your point across, then I have no respect for you.

You have me beat, in the game of retards you really do outclass me.

Why would I go to Apple's website? I have no interest in Apple - at all. What does it say on their site about the resolution? You really need to give up trying to look knowledgeable and defending something that's not worth it. Yes, higher DPI is good but my comment wasn't about whether or not higher DPI was useless or not. Simply that you claim Apple waits until things mature before using them but the retina display contradicts your claims of why they put 3 year old crap in their products. So what was so clearly pointed out again? You don't even seem to know yourself. Any idiot making a comment trying to insult another should be able to back their claims up. So what's that make you?

And of course Apple would make up all sorts of crap reason why their device should have higher resolution. It's not for games, oh wait, one game. Of course when others come out requiring more GPU power you'll be dead in the water with an Apple product. Photo processing? Most owners of Apple devices don't do that or much content design at all. That takes place on Windows computers - things that can be upgraded over time. Need a higher resolution for word processing? That's a joke. How about reading a book? Any current resolution would suffice for that purpose. Movies? Get a real entertainment center. They just like to add one thing here and there and claim it's brand new. Enjoy wasting your money.

We can keep going and you can escalate the name calling to idiots and retards if you want. I doubt that's the route you want to go however.

JessJess said,
I sold my 4S a few weeks ago, specifically because the next one was coming. Only a day to go!

What about the new one is of interest or excitement to you?

technikal said,
What about the new one is of interest or excitement to you?

Bing it. Not least, I knew that the cost of current handsets (non iPhone) would decrease and I might be able to get myself a bargain. I would be interested in a WP 7.8 Lumia if the price was right. Best time to sell a 4S is before the announcement.

JessJess said,

Bing it.

Nah. You clearly thought it was a good idea to get rid of your 4S. Must be some things about the new one that are of particular interest to you. Was just asking for a few points.

The fact that next to nothing has been released about the new phone is probably why you're reticent to list anything. Just looks like a simple case of "it's new. it's shinier. it's got an apple logo on it. MUST BUY IMMEDIATELY"

Or, in other words, "simpleton behaviour".

technikal said,

The fact that next to nothing has been released about the new phone is probably why you're reticent to list anything. Just looks like a simple case of "it's new. it's shinier. it's got an apple logo on it. MUST BUY IMMEDIATELY"

Or, in other words, "simpleton behaviour".

Next to nothing about the phone has been released...... do you live under a rock? Do you check any news sites at all?

Btw I edited my comment before you replied to include another reason, but I see you decided petty insults would be the best way to give yourself an ego boost today. Simpleton behavior indeed.

JessJess said,

Next to nothing about the phone has been released...... do you live under a rock? Do you check any news sites at all?

Btw I edited my comment before you replied to include another reason, but I see you decided petty insults would be the best way to give yourself an ego boost today. Simpleton behavior indeed.

I'll eagerly await your reply where you give us all a few links to the news sites you read where apple has given us legitimate details about the new phone.

You're catching yourself in your own lies now. Editing your posts after the fact to say you're interested in windows phones? When your first post at the top says:
"I sold my 4S a few weeks ago, specifically because the next one was coming. Only a day to go!"

Not fooling anyone.

To help you along "rumours != facts"

technikal said,

What about the new one is of interest or excitement to you?

look at the size of those thumbs in the pic! i didn't realize the phone was so tiny! at least the new one is a bit bigger...

Every day when someone buys an Android device this happens.... Thanks for quoting this fact.

WalterEgo404 said,
A fool and his money are soon parted. - Early English Proverb

NeoPogo said,
Every day when someone buys an Android device this happens.... Thanks for quoting this fact.

Yes I got royally shafted when I was asked to hand over $0 when getting my android based phone. I really should have handed over $199.95 (at the time) to get me one of those super duper iphone 4S's. Shame the only thing "4' related was the model number and not the network capability

technikal said,

Nah. You clearly thought it was a good idea to get rid of your 4S. Must be some things about the new one that are of particular interest to you. Was just asking for a few points.

The fact that next to nothing has been released about the new phone is probably why you're reticent to list anything. Just looks like a simple case of "it's new. it's shinier. it's got an apple logo on it. MUST BUY IMMEDIATELY"

Or, in other words, "simpleton behaviour".

Exactly!!!! We dont know what is offically new other than its slightly bigger, new charging/data port and it using APple's new SIM card. We dont know the speed of the CPU, how many cores, how much RAM, battery-life..nothing.

I sold my 4S 6 months after I bought it. I no have a GS3. I likely will never own another iPhone. I simply got tired of squinting (even with contacts) to read stuff on the screen. Also I was really disappointed in the 4S, likely because I sold my iPhone 4 to get it. But I wanted the 64GB storage. First disappointment was only havibg 57GB to store my library. Siri I didnt even consider as I cnsider all voice enabled applications to be pure gimmicks. The 4S simply offered nothing above the 4 and this 5 if that is what thgey call it, wont offer anything significant over the 4S.

But we can all look forward to the following BS:

1 - The new screen is .05MM thinner than the previous and the glass and LCD will no longer be glued together, but re now one piece. It will be pawned as magical and innovative. Yet Android devices have been usingsimilat screen for neary 2 years.

2 - he new data port which isnt going to use Thunderbolt, so it wont transfer data any faster than the 30 pin connector. But because they will likely cionfigure 9 pins ot do what 30 did before, it will be passed off as innovative.

3. Likely the device will get the quadcore GPUfound in the iPad, which means the phone needed to be bigger because they also need to increase the battery size to deal with all the huice sucking thedevice will do. Also like the iPAd, the phone will goblle so much power, the battery will fail to charge while the device is under heavyload.

4 - The metal back will be pawned as revolutionary, when the really is the heat from the new GPU would have cause the glass on the previous model to crack/warp.

5 - Oh and lastly, how disappointed the fans will be that Apple still ddn't go 4". I could be wrong here, but based on the mockups of the iPhone I see and measure a device that was suppose to be full size, the device measured 3.9" diagonally. Also the resolution is 1136 x 640. Doesn't even support 720p properly, the overalol resolution is still going to such packing that many pixels into a small space.

Higher resolutions look better on bigger screens. PERIOD. Increasing resolution in such a small space, makes stuff look to small.

In 6 years, Aple has basically made 2 modelsof the iPhone and year after year you watch thiese pathetic loons stand in line, sell previous models just to get a new model that offers very slight improvements over the pastmodel.

Its sad really. Look at the Galaxy Series from Samsung. Each model offered a significant improvement over the prior model. Not onky did they get fastre, they also got bigger, thinner, andeach model offer significant features in capability over the previous midel.

Its not liek what the iPhone fans say, Android just add features just for the sake of having a tick on the spec sheet. Its about actually giving you a new device to make you actually want to upgrade. Apple hasnt done squat to make you wnat to upgrade.

Oh wow,, enjoy your stupid Siri update, 3D map, file transfer over BT and all the other stuff phones have been doing already for over 3 years in many cases or longer.

Whose copying who now, stool pigeons?
Now go stand in line and wait countless hours to be the first idiot to get a phone everyone is going to have just a few weeks later. I honestly dont understand why you have to won it first.


When I sold my iPhone 4S 64GB, I had just paid 399.99 a few months before. I sold it for $690. Right now you will be lucky if you get $300 for the 64GB model on eBay. lol.

Please hurry and sell them, maybe I will get my wife the 4S to go with her iPad. /S

technikal said,

I'll eagerly await your reply where you give us all a few links to the news sites you read where apple has given us legitimate details about the new phone.

<strong>You're catching yourself in your own lies now. Editing your posts after the fact to say you're interested in windows phones? When your first post at the top says:
"I sold my 4S a few weeks ago, specifically because the next one was coming. Only a day to go!"</strong>

Not fooling anyone.

To help you along "rumours != facts"

You are just some sad troll with a chip on his shoulder. I see no reason to argue with you, let alone pander to your silly requests. What you believe isn't important to me, however I will just to clear some of your BS up.

1. I said I sold my 4S specifically before the iPhone 5 came out, yep. Because selling it after the iPhone 5 came out would make zero sense. Why would I sell my phone after its worth less?

2. It has been ALL OVER the news sites for months. There have been numerous leaks, and many WSJ reports. All stating things like 4" screen, A6 chip, LTE etc etc. Since I am an invested iOS user, the iPhone 5 is obviously going to enhance that. Why wouldn't I want it? Come 2013 LTE should start rolling out and I might actually see some usage for it. That will be well before the next iPhone announcement.

3. I am interested in Windows Phones. Because I dislike Android and would like a viable alternative, I am either going to purchase an iPhone 5, or an iPad Mini and cheaper Windows Phone.

4. At the end of the day. See my first sentence. Good day trolling sir.

JessJess said,

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Good day trolling sir.

Distinct lack of trolling in this. Just questions you've been unable to answer

technikal said,

Yes I got royally shafted when I was asked to hand over $0 when getting my android based phone.

Too bad that can't happen in California. Here you must pay sales tax on the entire subsidized price, since the Board of Equalization determined that subsidies and rebates are taxable! So your "free" phone ends up costing $70 in sales tax lel

JessJess said,

Bing it. Not least, I knew that the cost of current handsets (non iPhone) would decrease and I might be able to get myself a bargain. I would be interested in a WP 7.8 Lumia if the price was right. Best time to sell a 4S is before the announcement.

Bing it? Srsly? Who the **** Bings anything? 3rd rate, searching trash? Bing it? you deserve an iPhone, indefinitely. ****ing human race....someone wipe us off the planet.

Nick K said,

Too bad that can't happen in California. Here you must pay sales tax on the entire subsidized price, since the Board of Equalization determined that subsidies and rebates are taxable! So your "free" phone ends up costing $70 in sales tax lel

Gotta wonder how the debt in California is like 350 billion or whatever I heard it was recently with those sorts of money grabs