LulzSec explain their antics - will continue till brought to justice

The day has come. What we’ve all been waiting for, a press release detailing the motivation behind the group that have been the cause of many attacks on “BS, Sony, Fox, porn websites, FBI, CIA, the U.S. government, Sony some more, online gaming servers (by request of callers, not by our own choice), Sony again, and of course our good friend Sony.”

Lulz Security, better known as LulzSec hit 1000 tweets today, which was shortly followed by a press release posted on Pastebin. The group acknowledged that there were a lot of ‘enemies’ of the group, most of which are gamers but most importantly the main criticism of the group – that their actions are bringing more Internet laws to public and therefore contributing towards the deterioration of net neutrality. The concern was addressed in what some may call an intelligent manner as the statement said “But what if we just hadn't released anything? What if we were silent?” They pose an interesting question; however later follow it up with an answer. 

“Do you think every hacker announces everything they've hacked? We certainly haven't, and we're damn sure others are playing the silent game. Do you feel safe with your Facebook accounts, your Google Mail accounts, your Skype accounts? What makes you think a hacker isn't silently sitting inside all of these right now, sniping out individual people, or perhaps selling them off? You are a peon to these people. A toy. A string of characters with a value.”

They do suggest a thought-provoking situation that may just be the case. It is completely possible that there are hackers out there with a huge database of information and the list of people on that database are sitting ducks, waiting to be informed about a breach.

They admitted that they are currently sitting on a database of 200,000 Brink users which they could release at any time, however are informing people that their passwords have been taken via the statement instead of releasing another huge text document containing such sensitive information.

The future for LulzSec doesn’t seem a very bright one. While some say the capture of primary members is inevitable, the group say that they may might well be brought to justice, however not only do they not care, until such an event happens they will continue to go about their antics in search for more Lulz.

LulzSec have proven, many an occasion that they are in fact Grey hats and will continue to function as such. “People who can make things work better within this rectangle have power over others; the whitehats who charge $10,000 for something we could teach you how to do over the course of a weekend, providing you aren't mentally disabled.”

“This is the Internet, where we screw each other over for a jolt of satisfaction. There are peons and lulz lizards; trolls and victims. There's losers that post shit they think matters, and other losers telling them their shit does not matter. In this situation, we are both of these parties, because we're fully aware that every single person that reached this final sentence just wasted a few moments of their time.”

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@Krome, I didn't say they're a bunch of 13 year olds. I'm sick and tired of it for the reasons I stated, so get YOUR head out. They are evil people with completely selfish reasons for doing what they do. It is a complete lie for them to pretend they are doing it for some altruistic reason. Did those companies they hacked hire them to stress their system? No. So try getting a clue. @MidnightDevil, you are WRONG. It's evil to do it at ALL. They violated the companies. They violate people. Your perception of damage is lame.

This is ridiculous that people defend this ****.

You put a lock on the front door of your house, not because it actually prevents criminals from breaking in, but because it keeps "honest" people from casually walking in your house and nosing around.

Passwords on the internet work the same way, we use them, not because they actually secure data, but because they prevent every random person on the internet from having access to our ****. NO password system will ever be 100% secure, if YOU can get by it to your stuff, then so can other people.

This entire group is just childish and deserves no respect/props or anything other then prosecution for violation of privacy and disruption of services and business. The loss of revenue they have caused different corporations is tantamount to theft, and when they are caught will probably be prosecuted as such.

Just because you CAN do something, doesn't mean you should. It would be extremely easy for me to break into my neighbors house and spray paint on the walls of their living room "Lol I hacked your security and owned U". So why is it "ok" for some hacker group to effectively do the same thing on the internet?

Evil are the people who actually damaged something. They aren't evil by leaking data, evil are the people who get that data and use it for harmfull purposes.

I'm with LulzSec here. Excuse or not, there's a point.

Some of you people just make me sick. Hackers are going to continue to exist because, quite frankly, people are particularly intelligent in one area but are completely ignorant, stupid and evil in every OTHER area will continue to exist. We breed toward the lowest common denominator and SOME of you mental midgets seem to glorify this stupidity. As for Lulz, how about you people spend your time going after OTHER hackers instead of perpetuating this insanity by continuing to attack people and businesses? Huh? You want to impress people, show how good you really are by attacking all these so-called "black hats". I'm sick of this entire sick, evil culture.

ScubaDog said,
Some of you people just make me sick. Hackers are going to continue to exist because, quite frankly, people are particularly intelligent in one area but are completely ignorant, stupid and evil in every OTHER area will continue to exist. We breed toward the lowest common denominator and SOME of you mental midgets seem to glorify this stupidity. As for Lulz, how about you people spend your time going after OTHER hackers instead of perpetuating this insanity by continuing to attack people and businesses? Huh? You want to impress people, show how good you really are by attacking all these so-called "black hats". I'm sick of this entire sick, evil culture.
Now they are "ignorant" fools. You're sick because you can't label them as "bunch of 13 years old" any more? The task of hacking is not to impress anyone. Get your head out of that tight backend.

lulzsec is a GOVERNMENT sponsored venture to deprive you of your civil liberty and tighten control of the internet. Look at the timing of the so called "attacks" !!!

Wake up people.

RagBacker said,
lulzsec is a GOVERNMENT sponsored venture to deprive you of your civil liberty and tighten control of the internet. Look at the timing of the so called "attacks" !!!

Wake up people.


So Im not the only paranoid one here.. ... attacks .. govt says ok we are cracking down.. its what they always wanted... time to bbq paranoia rant LOL

If they really wanted to help those that they hacked why not just tell them "Hey we just hacked your site/server and managed to get away with such n such data but don't worry the data was securely deleted afterward but here's how we did it and this is what you need to do to fix it" oh and by the way we wont be charging you for this but if you don't fix the problem we will make it public

Athlonite said,
If they really wanted to help those that they hacked why not just tell them "Hey we just hacked your site/server and managed to get away with such n such data but don't worry the data was securely deleted afterward but here's how we did it and this is what you need to do to fix it" oh and by the way we wont be charging you for this but if you don't fix the problem we will make it public

I agree, if they were trying to help they would be more professional about it. They are just immature, I really would not be surprised if they turned out to be kids/teenagers

Athlonite said,
If they really wanted to help those that they hacked why not just tell them "Hey we just hacked your site/server and managed to get away with such n such data but don't worry the data was securely deleted afterward but here's how we did it and this is what you need to do to fix it" oh and by the way we wont be charging you for this but if you don't fix the problem we will make it public

What an idealistic proposal. Unfortunately, humans do not act in that way. Most human beings just simply aren't inclined to fix something until it causes a massive problem. While you may think LulzSec should have just notified these companies/corporations, I doubt that would have any effect on them in changing their vulnerabilities. Human beings are just creatures who are better at reaction, rather than proaction.

"You are a peon to these people. A toy. A string of characters with a value.”

I'm sure a beating is all these kids need. No mature adult would speak like this.

bugsbungee said,
"You are a peon to these people. A toy. A string of characters with a value.”

I'm sure a beating is all these kids need. No mature adult would speak like this.


Of course ... Only kids would talk like that... And you know this because...? Generalisation and labelling people is pointless at best ... You think they are insulted by statements like that? Only a child would believe so .... (whoops did I just label someone my bad!)

zYb said,

Of course ... Only kids would talk like that... And you know this because...? Generalisation and labelling people is pointless at best ... You think they are insulted by statements like that? Only a child would believe so .... (whoops did I just label someone my bad!)

You seriously think a *mature* adult would act or speak like this? I do feel sorry that you keep that sort of company.

bugsbungee said,
"You are a peon to these people. A toy. A string of characters with a value.”

I'm sure a beating is all these kids need. No mature adult would speak like this.

I think it's more the voice of a group of psychopaths/sociopaths.

Unrealistic said,

I think it's more the voice of a group of psychopaths/sociopaths.


Do you even know what you say?
A psychopath is a person with no emotion whatsoever, and a sociopath is a person with virtually no social skills. If they're expressing jolly sarcasm and humor in their tweets, while also consisting of a group of people, they clearly are nothing related to what you just said.
Why is it that so many people go around using the psychopath/sociopath nonsense without fully knowing what the terms mean? I suppose that it's out of ignorance, yet it should be addressed that most of the time, when you call someone a psychopath/sociopath, you are likely wrong.

PlogCF said,

Do you even know what you say?
A psychopath is a person with no emotion whatsoever

I thought they were capable of some emotions? I know they don't feel remorse, but surely than can be angered when someone hurts their ego. Actually, looking up that psychopath checklist, it seems they'd probably score a LOT of points towards being psychopaths...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hare_Psychopathy_Checklist

dead.cell said,

I thought they were capable of some emotions? I know they don't feel remorse, but surely than can be angered when someone hurts their ego. Actually, looking up that psychopath checklist, it seems they'd probably score a LOT of points towards being psychopaths...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hare_Psychopathy_Checklist

Oh yes, everyone can score alot on any given checklist. Your logic is so solid.

dead.cell said,

I thought they were capable of some emotions? I know they don't feel remorse, but surely than can be angered when someone hurts their ego. Actually, looking up that psychopath checklist, it seems they'd probably score a LOT of points towards being psychopaths...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hare_Psychopathy_Checklist

Psychopaths are capable of emotion, just not empathy.

A sociopath doesn't have a deficit of social skills; on the contrary, you might say they have too many, as they are primarily characterized by employment of unscrupulous, sophisticated social engineering for their personal gain. However, sociopathy is an outmoded concept and is no longer medically recognized as a distinct condition.

PlogCF said,

Do you even know what you say?
A psychopath is a person with no emotion whatsoever, and a sociopath is a person with virtually no social skills. If they're expressing jolly sarcasm and humor in their tweets, while also consisting of a group of people, they clearly are nothing related to what you just said.
Why is it that so many people go around using the psychopath/sociopath nonsense without fully knowing what the terms mean? I suppose that it's out of ignorance, yet it should be addressed that most of the time, when you call someone a psychopath/sociopath, you are likely wrong.

Of course I do. A psychopath may not know what "emotions" are, but they definitely know how to manipulate people into believing that not only are they right in their actions, but can justify it through logic. These individuals are doing the same thing. They think completely logically to come to their own conclusions and yet they are causing destruction to thousands of innocent people.

http://www.amazon.com/Psychopa...ough-Industry/dp/1594488010

'People who are psychopathic prey ruthlessly on others using charm, deceit, violence or other methods that allow them to get what they want. The symptoms of psychopathy include: lack of a conscience or sense of guilt, lack of empathy, egocentricity, pathological lying, repeated violations of social norms, disregard for the law, shallow emotions, and a history of victimizing others.'
- Robert Hare, Ph.D

If that quote doesn't speak volumes to what LulzSec is, than I don't know what will.

The way i see it there will always be a way around a system.. we will never be totally secure online, these guys may inform a few people that some services aren't secure, but will it help? no.

They are taking down services that a lot of people rely on and love. not good.

It also doesn't matter how much they push individuals to be secure (not using same password, etc..) it will be ignored by the masses and less tech savvy people. Just like someone breaking into your house or stealing your car, you can put measures in place but the fact remains if someone wants in, they'll most likely get in...

One thing i don't understand is how it's so easy for these guys? I don't know the ins and outs of the networks they are hacking and how they are doing but i have my own server and i take my clients privacy very seriously, i pay an expert $50/month to manage this and now i get 5-10 emails a day saying this ip has been blocked due to a hack attempt, whether DDOS, XSS, injection, whatever.. 5 attempts and your gone, so far this has been very effective.

SpyderCanopus said,
LulzSec is most likely a gov't false flag group or terrorists charged with swaying the public to accept Internet regulation.

No, the government doesn't need to organize anything to control the masses. We do that job all on our own.

SpyderCanopus said,
LulzSec is most likely a gov't false flag group or terrorists charged with swaying the public to accept Internet regulation.

The government doesn't need public approval to pass more regulations (or anything else). All these "false flag" rumors are just tinfoil hat paranoia. Lulzsec is not the government.

They are not at this time being excessively criminal. They are not hacking for personal or corporate gain, nor are they selling or exposing information that could really bring a company down.

Yes they have soiled reputations but overall they are exposing a lot of security issues that as a result have been resolved. Imagine if it wasn't lulz who cracked PSN, what if the whole thing had been leaked to a malicious 3rd party who made a firmware update from play stations infecting them with malicious code? we'd all be screwed. Now IMHO, as long as they don't get too silly, lulz can carry on. but thats MHO.

Auzeras said,
They are not at this time being excessively criminal. They are not hacking for personal or corporate gain, nor are they selling or exposing information that could really bring a company down.

Releasing public information isn't good, but I don't find them to be too much of a threat either. Others however seem to be willing to compare their actions to murder and violence, which is about as nutty as you can get.

well "somebody's" been busy creating online "problems". i think soon "somebody" will offer us the "solution" to this problem. cause we asked for it, willingly. and the "solution" will be? *make a guess*.

i've seen this executed one too many times.

Suppose it'll be just as lulzy to broadcast footage of police breaking into their homes. And their trials. All streamed for everyone to view.

Denis W said,
Suppose it'll be just as lulzy to broadcast footage of police breaking into their homes. And their trials. All streamed for everyone to view.

Nah, somebody will DDoS the streaming site before people can get on

Nashy said,
They DDoS everything. They are pathetic wannabe hackers who have no life.

No, that's Anonymous. These guys, have broken into and stolen information from countless "secure" websites.

Honestly, I'm glad this is going on. It'll teach everyone a thing or two about security.

Reacon said,

No, that's Anonymous. These guys, have broken into and stolen information from countless "secure" websites.

Honestly, I'm glad this is going on. It'll teach everyone a thing or two about security.

This.

Reacon said,

No, that's Anonymous. These guys, have broken into and stolen information from countless "secure" websites.

No, both groups have had their share of actual attacks beyond DDoSing.

LulzSec appears to consist of people who know what they are doing though, where Anonymous has a lot of people who don't. They are still willing to help though, even if they aren't too tech-savvy. It's about making the most of what they have, which is something many would underestimate.

Reacon said,

No, that's Anonymous. These guys, have broken into and stolen information from countless "secure" websites.

Honestly, I'm glad this is going on. It'll teach everyone a thing or two about security.

I have to disagree. It'll just make uneducated policy makers paranoid, causing them to pass bull**** legislations that strip away more personal freedoms.

The only thing they are going to accomplish is drive govt's to implement online ID's and more individual user tracking. Grats... good for you!

Xionanx said,
The only thing they are going to accomplish is drive govt's to implement online ID's and more individual user tracking. Grats... good for you!

Well if they manage online ID's the same way they manage there websites then I don't thing doing nothing would matter.

Xionanx said,
The only thing they are going to accomplish is drive govt's to implement online ID's and more individual user tracking. Grats... good for you!

Oh please. What a weak argument.

And clearly, the existance of a few pedophiles are going to make the government resort to mandatory castration for all males.

They do have a point, without them telling the world about their antics nobody would know how vulnerable every single person on the internet is.

Neo003 said,
They do have a point, without them telling the world about their antics nobody would know how vulnerable every single person on the internet is.
Pretty sure anyone on a site like this or anywhere near capable of KNOWING what/who LulzSec is -KNOWS- for a fact how vulnerable they truly are on the Net when it comes down to it.