Microsoft announces Windows Phone 8, coming this holiday season

Microsoft is today announcing Windows Phone 8 and is currently showing off the Windows Phone 8 platform preview. Windows Phone 8 will ship with a common core that is cross-functional with Windows 8 and it will be on sale later this year and in time for the holiday shopping season.

Developers who are working on Windows 8, will easily be able to move their applications to the phone platform. Likewise, those who have already developed applications for Windows Phone, will easily be able to move their applications to Windows 8 and Windows Phone 8. 

There are 8 new platform enchantments that define Windows Phone 8. Microsoft will only be focusing on the platform at this event and not all consumer features will be shown off. 

Windows Phone 8 will bring multi-core support, but expect to see dual-core phones this fall; Microsoft is currently working on battery support on multi-core for Windows Phone. 

There will also be two new resolutions for Windows Phone and they will be 720P and WXGA (or as they call it 720P+) and Microsoft is saying that all current applications will work on these new resolutions.

Removable Micro SD support will be core to the platform too. Microsoft believes this will allow vendors to create lower costs device as they can ship with less memory and then you can supplement with an SD card if you need more storage. 

Microsoft will also be bringing IE10 to Windows Phone and it will be using the same engine as on the desktop which will make web developing easier. It will also come with Microsoft's SmartScreen technology to help keep you (and your family members) safe on the web. 

For developers out there, Microsoft will be bringing native code support which will allow for top notch games and capabilities. 

NFC will also be available on Windows Phone 8 that will allow communication between phones, tablets and PCs. 

Microsoft is also bringing a wallet solution to Windows Phone 8 and are calling it the "most complete" solution on the market (or coming to the market with iOS6). The Wallet hub will integrate receipts, frequent flyer information, balances, and with a secure SIM, you can use cards in your wallet to make purchases and payments. Currently, they are working with ISIS but at launch, will not be onbaord with the service that nearly all US carriers are using. Microsoft said to expect ISIS integration, next year.

Nokia mapping information will be a key part of Windows Phone 8 and will work offline and all third party apps will be able to access offline maps too; Nokia will be bringing an update to their turn by turn application as well. 

Windows Phone 8 will be enterprise ready with encryption and secure boot. Bit-Locker will be locking down the data and make it safe for corporations. IT folks will also be able to sign and deploy application without using Microsoft's Marketplace. 

Microsoft will also be changing the Start screen on Windows Phone 8. The new start screen is more personal and looks dramatically different than Windows Phone 7. 

The new look will be more personal and align better with Windows 8. This means that you are in control of your tiles and re-arrange them how you see fit which includes the ability to resize the tiles on the screen. Additionally, for those who have asked for more color options, those too will arrive with Windows Phone 8. 

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Been owning a windows phone since 2007. The WP7.x series of phones are the worse so far and WP itself always provides support for technologies/features offered by other companies last year. I have to admit I am not fond of the Android or IPhone either but I guess I will get an IPhone as I really need a smartphone. Otherwise my other option is this: http://www.carphonewarehouse.c...-phones/SAMSUNG-E2121B/PPAY

That's great Microsoft are allowing Windows Phone users to be able to customize their home screens and letting the tiles to be resized.

I may have missed it, but was there any mention about backwards compatibility for the Windows Phone 7 and 7.5 guys?

watchthisspace said,
That's great Microsoft are allowing Windows Phone users to be able to customize their home screens and letting the tiles to be resized.

I may have missed it, but was there any mention about backwards compatibility for the Windows Phone 7 and 7.5 guys?

Do you mean forward compatibility? They specifically mentioned that NO current Windows Phone 7.5 will be upgradeable to Windows Phone 8. Although there will be an interim upgrade called Windows Phone 7.8, which will bring this start screen to current 7.5 phones.

For developers though, they said all the 7.5 apps will work on Windows Phone 8. But the reverse won't necessarily be true.

Chica Ami said,
Windows Phone 8 is just a upgrade to the Windows Phone OS.

More like minoity features upgrade.

I would advise you to spend more time reading..... especially before typing comments like this......

Chica Ami said,

Since it looks and feels the same.

Its not just a minor update, this update is pretty massive. I just don't think people pay attention on here or they don't understand the technical aspects of wp8.

Astra.Xtreme said,
Grr... they really need to remove that white arrow which creates a ton of wasted space. Microsoft, symmetry is your friend.

They have... It's not there in the Windows Phone 8 screenshots. It's only present in the older screenshots.

Suave Sagittarian said,

They have... It's not there in the Windows Phone 8 screenshots. It's only present in the older screenshots.

Okay, that's good. I was a little confused since some pictures showed it with and some without. The new UI does look insanely nice.

Astra.Xtreme said,

Okay, that's good. I was a little confused since some pictures showed it with and some without. The new UI does look insanely nice.

It does, yes... I like the cusomizability of the Tile sizes on the screen a la Windows 8. Some of the Dev enhancements ( although expected and rumoured ) are really welcome too. :-)

well they just confirmed current windows phone its dead... bravo microsoft and nokia what a bad job.

they just pull out a worst scenario case the move its almost the same as winmo 6.5 to wp7, bb7.1 to bb10.

i thought they would do better what a missed opportunity

eilegz said,
well they just confirmed current windows phone its dead... bravo microsoft and nokia what a bad job.

they just pull out a worst scenario case the move its almost the same as winmo 6.5 to wp7, bb7.1 to bb10.

i thought they would do better what a missed opportunity

I think you and a lot of people have ear plugs in. They have not said anything of the kind. Existing devices will be getting the 7.8 update later this year along with the tango update later this month. Nokia phones will be getting new apps and updated apps, plus more in the future. wp7.8 will not be the last update either. 7x will be around for quite some time still as this OS will power the cheaper phones out there.

And who ever thinks it is fragmentation that an old device cannot run software optimized for faster hardware is bright as a burnt out bulb.

As I am sure the typical consumer cares about there two-year old device getting the latest and greatest in software. Siri, anyone? MS finally figured out what Apple did years ago.

DClark said,
As I am sure the typical consumer cares about there two-year old device getting the latest and greatest in software. Siri, anyone? MS finally figured out what Apple did years ago.
Exactly. Apple users broke their contracts or just waited to get Siri, there wasn't an uproar. You want the best latest features, you need the latest hardware that supports it. Period. This isn't some "theme" update, this is a completely upgraded OS with more baked in features utilizing new hardware in a better way. Did I expect my Lumia 900 to get Windows Phone 8? No. But then again I buy my phones in cash every six months and write them off at tax season. I don't do contracts (I know I am a non typical buyer).

DClark said,
As I am sure the typical consumer cares about there two-year old device getting the latest and greatest in software. Siri, anyone? MS finally figured out what Apple did years ago.

What about people who bought a Lumia last week?........

Fritzly said,

What about people who bought a Lumia last week?........

you will be getting an update in the form of 7.8 and a bunch of new apps and updated apps, plus nobody has said that 7.8 would be the last update. they are not ditching anyone.

I know someone who bought a HD2 a year or two back and he recently upgraded to WP7, I bet he'll be starting to question Microsoft's apparently strong commitments to their mobile OSs.

thealexweb said,
I know someone who bought a HD2 a year or two back and he recently upgraded to WP7, I bet he'll be starting to question Microsoft's apparently strong commitments to their mobile OSs.

Everyone should be. WP7.5 users have been ditched.

thealexweb said,
I know someone who bought a HD2 a year or two back and he recently upgraded to WP7, I bet he'll be starting to question Microsoft's apparently strong commitments to their mobile OSs.

i exactly fit the description of that person. but i think i'll be fine. i knew my htc titan won't last too long with all the new technologies coming in. it was still a fair deal to pay $0.01 for 2 years of having a great phone.
the hd2 is still pretty awesome btw, it would be hilarious to see it having wp8 before my htc titan having wp7.8.

microsoft better start doing some damage control before they go into an PR mess, it would make sense call wp 7.8 for currrent device wp8 but without all features...

eilegz said,
microsoft better start doing some damage control before they go into an PR mess, it would make sense call wp 7.8 for currrent device wp8 but without all features...

That would be lying.

linsook said,

That would be lying.

thats somehow apple strategy with iOS update and seems to work... its not an lie just a better pr management.

eilegz said,
microsoft better start doing some damage control before they go into an PR mess, it would make sense call wp 7.8 for currrent device wp8 but without all features...

Maybe they will announce a 50% off coupon on WP8 for current users.

eilegz said,
microsoft better start doing some damage control before they go into an PR mess, it would make sense call wp 7.8 for currrent device wp8 but without all features...
It's a generation shift, just like saying that your Pentium II can't run Windows 7. At least they are offering the new start screen for free for all WP7 users. And people are still whining about it.

linsook said,

That would be lying.

Whi so? I Windows 8 is optimized for "Touch" but it runs fine without a Touch screen.....
WP8 instead of WP 7.8 would mean that if your device does not have NFC you will not have it; on the other hand people with a Lumia 900 would have it.

Rudy said,
What kills it is the lack of upgrade for current WP7 users

The fact that WP8 apps wont run in WP7.5 is the killer. MS just ditched all current WP users.

the better twin said,

The fact that WP8 apps wont run in WP7.5 is the killer. MS just ditched all current WP users.

I believe most developers will still code for 7.5 as 7.5 apps run on 8, the only time you wont get an app on 8 is because of a feature that is only available on 8. wp7.8 will become the OS for low cost wp phones in the future so I don't think ms have cut of anyone with this move

Skwerl said,
Ugh. That restaurant video was the pits.
Only thought of mine was "so these phones are going to be so expensive a family can only afford one"

Looks good, only wish it came out sooner. As it is my contract expired on Monday and if I want to pick up a new (subsidized) phone and keep my unlimited data I need to upgrade before the 28th. Looks like I'll be locked in for another 2 years but I'll definitely watch Windows Phone with great interest. Maybe next time.

TheLegendOfMart said,
Haha, the start screens like like a mess with all the different size and coloured squares.

It's only a mess if you make it a mess.

rfirth said,

It's only a mess if you make it a mess.


But you shouldn't have the option to make it look like a mess. Or at least a certain fruit group would want to override subjective values and believe that there is a common beauty among mankind.

TheLegendOfMart said,
Haha, the start screens like like a mess with all the different size and coloured squares.

i've just checked how would that screen fit on my htc titan. the tiles would look huge! i wonder if they change size like in windows 8 on different screen sizes..
also, i think i would have loved to see something like this: http://goo.gl/eTkOk

i'm still happy with this though. can't wait to see where are "all the apps" and if there are is "notification history" screen

Klethron said,
Have they said anything about any of the current WP7 devices being able to upgrade to WP8?

They said you wont get WP8 but your getting most of the new features like the large tiles in WP7.8

DrakeN2k said,

They said you wont get WP8 but your getting most of the new features like the large tiles in WP7.8

That's understandable. As long as we get all the relevant features and our phones support the new apps, that's fine.

Klethron said,
Have they said anything about any of the current WP7 devices being able to upgrade to WP8?

Most end user features (not NFC and a couple of others, obviously.,...no hardware for it) will come in thye form of 7.8, but kernal/driver stack change makes it impractical to upgrade.

DrakeN2k said,

They said you wont get WP8 but your getting most of the new features like the large tiles in WP7.8

When did they mention it? I am watching it but it seems I missed the passage.

Spencer R said,

Most end user features (not NFC and a couple of others, obviously.,...no hardware for it) will come in thye form of 7.8, but kernal/driver stack change makes it impractical to upgrade.

reading some on the Engadget comments people expect people to get NFC , dual core and screen res improvement in a update.

Klethron said,
Have they said anything about any of the current WP7 devices being able to upgrade to WP8?

wtf are all of you other guys on about? they haven't said anything about current devices yet? i've been watching the entire thing so far?

Fritzly said,

When did they mention it? I am watching it but it seems I missed the passage.

glad i am not the only one who is wondering where the **** this came from?

jorel009 said,

wtf are all of you other guys on about? they haven't said anything about current devices yet? i've been watching the entire thing so far?

acording to theverge and engadget

http://www.theverge.com/2012/6...ws-phone-8-existing-devices

http://www.engadget.com/2012/0...one-7-8-for-legacy-devices/

Microsoft and nokia just shoot themself on the foot... fragmentation coming, they handle the worse than android almost rim like path, with current blackberry devices to blackberry 10.

Nota good day for nokia fan like myself and microsoft screw up too. there its 0 incentive to get any windows phone today the whole bshit of scale up and scale down in windows phone 8 its rubbish...

eilegz said,

acording to theverge and engadget

http://www.theverge.com/2012/6...ws-phone-8-existing-devices

http://www.engadget.com/2012/0...one-7-8-for-legacy-devices/

Microsoft and nokia just shoot themself on the foot... fragmentation coming


Bro, lets settle down. The only fragmentation you will see is <8 and 8+. They are turning the phones into true computers. With MS's ability to backwards compatible hardware I don't see them creating the fragmentation you see in the android world.

Not a good day for nokia fan like myself and microsoft screw up too. there its 0 incentive to get any windows phone today the whole bshit of scale up and scale down in windows phone 8 its rubbish...

I agree with you on this one. I wouldn't buy a phone at all right now. I got my Titan last year, I'll buyout my contract to get on a new one of these phones over Christmas. I feel bad for anybody who gets on board with now since that contract buyout/wait will be huge.

DrakeN2k said,

reading some on the Engadget comments people expect people to get NFC , dual core and screen res improvement in a update.


Are you aware that Nokia 900 has NFC?

eilegz said,

acording to theverge and engadget

http://www.theverge.com/2012/6...ws-phone-8-existing-devices

http://www.engadget.com/2012/0...one-7-8-for-legacy-devices/

Microsoft and nokia just shoot themself on the foot... fragmentation coming, they handle the worse than android almost rim like path, with current blackberry devices to blackberry 10.

Nota good day for nokia fan like myself and microsoft screw up too. there its 0 incentive to get any windows phone today the whole bshit of scale up and scale down in windows phone 8 its rubbish...

Fragmentation is kind of the opposite of what is happening. Even though the WinCE kernel has been jetted, the phone OS is being merged with the largest OS ecosystem.

WP8 comes into line with Windows 8 NT, this is a 'combining' of two platforms, so WP8 as a whole is 'less' fragmented than WP7 currently is.

Looks like we'll finally get access to the programmable pipeline for graphics in WP8. Being limited to fixed function in WP7 was a drag.

The new look will be more personal and align better with Windows 8. This means that you are in control of your tiles and re-arrange them how you see fit which includes the ability to resize the tiles on the screen.

DrakeN2k said,
you can size the tiles for what they used to be

I hope windows 8 gets this before it is launched! would be awesome to have those tiny tiles for things like links to desktop apps

-Razorfold said,

I'm aware of that. I'm watching the video. This however doesn't look like a very elegant solution to grouping items or fitting more content on screen. It doesn't look like much of an improvement only degrading the quality of the start screen experience.

the better twin said,
New start screen looks a bit jam packed. Not sure if i like

WP7: look a all that wasted space because of the arrow and the soft search button
WP8: new start screen is too jam packed

the better twin said,

I'm aware of that. I'm watching the video. This however doesn't look like a very elegant solution to grouping items or fitting more content on screen. It doesn't look like much of an improvement only degrading the quality of the start screen experience.

It only looks like that because that's how he made his.

If you wanted to have large icons like WP7 does, you can do just that.

nohone said,

WP7: look a all that wasted space because of the arrow and the soft search button
WP8: new start screen is too jam packed


I never said the first statement. Surely most would admit with all those different sized tiles it doesnt look anywhere near as elegant as 7.5

-Razorfold said,

It only looks like that because that's how he made his.

If you wanted to have large icons like WP7 does, you can do just that.


Again, Im aware that they can be resized. The problem is that this isnt a very good solution to the grouping problem. Either have large tiles that look good, or jam pack a load of little tiles if youre after productivity. I just dont think it looks good or is a very good way of sorting your tiles either.

the better twin said,

Again, Im aware that they can be resized. The problem is that this isnt a very good solution to the grouping problem. Either have large tiles that look good, or jam pack a load of little tiles if youre after productivity. I just dont think it looks good or is a very good way of sorting your tiles either.

I agree with you, the metro design language was all about simplicity and elegance....and in WP8 start screen it isn't all that anymore..... the windows 8 and windows phone 7.5 look great BECAUSE the breathing space around the tiles....it looked gr8........they mentioned that they still are keeping UI enhancements under wraps. I hope they add the right margin back in or have little margins on left and right...the current screen looks pathetic

the better twin said,

I never said the first statement. Surely most would admit with all those different sized tiles it doesnt look anywhere near as elegant as 7.5

I didn't say you did, but there were quite a few who did. I was just pointing out another damned if you do, damned if you don't moment.

the better twin said,
New start screen looks a bit jam packed. Not sure if i like
I told you that screenshots were fakes few days ago about the new start screen, but you didn't believe it!!!

the better twin said,
New start screen looks a bit jam packed. Not sure if i like

Even with all small icons, it's no more packed than a stock Android or iOS setup.

DrakeN2k said,
Multi core yes please !!

Runs great on 1 core think about 2 or 4

Windows Phone 8 won't have much in common with WP7 in the backend (the front end should be very similar though)

"There are 8 new platform enchantments..."
Wow! Technology can use a bit of magic every now and then, but eight enchantments might be going overboard!

"Windows Phone 8 will ship with a common core that is cross-palatable with Windows 8"

Not watching the stream (at work). Does this mean that they use a common kernel? Common UI libraries (i.e. to hook into the start screen is the same as the WP8 home menu)? Applications are easily portable? Applications are immediately portable (do not need recompiling)? Devices supporting Windows Phone 8 will also run Windows RT or vice versa?

billyea said,
"Windows Phone 8 will ship with a common core that is cross-palatable with Windows 8"

Not watching the stream (at work). Does this mean that they use a common kernel? Common UI libraries (i.e. to hook into the start screen is the same as the WP8 home menu)? Applications are easily portable? Applications are immediately portable (do not need recompiling)? Devices supporting Windows Phone 8 will also run Windows RT or vice versa?

They said that Win Phone 8 will use the same kernel I believe.