Microsoft confirms Office 2010 has reached the Release Candidate stage

Microsoft officials have confirmed to Neowin that the company recently released a Release Candidate (RC) build of Office 2010 to private beta testers.

Early Release Candidate builds began leaking to the web in January this year as Microsoft was preparing for the RC release to Technology Adoption Program (TAP) testers. Russian site Wzor recently confirmed that build 14.0.4734.1000 is an RTM escrow build that Microsoft is testing internally. Screenshots of the build leaked last week and a download was made available on torrent sites early this week.

A Microsoft spokesperson confirmed to Neowin: "Microsoft made a release candidate available to members in the Technology Adoption Program (TAP). This is one of Microsoft's planned milestones in the engineering process; however they do not have plans to make this new code set available broadly."

In January Microsoft announced Office 2010 pricing. The professional edition will retail for $499 boxed.  Office 2010 will be released in at least five different flavours, including a free version that includes Microsoft Word and Excel, but comes with limited functionality and includes advertisements. The editions of Office 2010 will include Starter, Home and Student, Home and Business, Professional and Professional Academic.

Microsoft is expected to hit the RTM milestone in the coming months with a general availability date of June.

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I'm not impressed with 2010. Especially Outlook 2010, I hate it more than Outlook 2007. Whats with the super tiny fonts it uses, its dang annoying. I know you can enlarge some fonts, but other fonts you can't. Its the number one reason why I never use Outlook, and the only reason I use it at all is for its contacts manager which I like.

Word 2010 and 2007 both have that confusing menu on top. Definitely not user friendly. I like Word, I just hate how the menu is organized, you have to hunt for everything.

TC17 said,
I'm not impressed with 2010. Especially Outlook 2010, I hate it more than Outlook 2007. Whats with the super tiny fonts it uses, its dang annoying. I know you can enlarge some fonts, but other fonts you can't. Its the number one reason why I never use Outlook, and the only reason I use it at all is for its contacts manager which I like.

Word 2010 and 2007 both have that confusing menu on top. Definitely not user friendly. I like Word, I just hate how the menu is organized, you have to hunt for everything.

I don't like Outlook 2010, the ribbon interface does NOT work for me in Outlook. The older Outlook 2007 was better with the tool bars so I downgraded just Outlook to 2007. The rest of the 2010 suite is pretty good though such as word 2010 and publisher 2010.

Microsoft seem to be churning out software like there's no tomorrow. The trouble is, it's "the same old same old" (chose your own expletive).

I guess they need to work on shorter product life, to force people into continual software upgrades and software assurance, after the Windows XP hiatus.

We still use Windows 2000 (Terminal Services) and Office 2000. With the compatibility kit that Microsoft kindly gave away for free, we don't need to upgrade anything YET! I'm with those decenters who think that ever more bloated software that requires ever greater CPU power and memory is not a particularly good thing.

How sad have you got to be - looking forward to a release of Microsoft Office!

boho said,
Microsoft seem to be churning out software like there's no tomorrow. The trouble is, it's "the same old same old" (chose your own expletive).

I guess they need to work on shorter product life, to force people into continual software upgrades and software assurance, after the Windows XP hiatus.

We still use Windows 2000 (Terminal Services) and Office 2000. With the compatibility kit that Microsoft kindly gave away for free, we don't need to upgrade anything YET! I'm with those decenters who think that ever more bloated software that requires ever greater CPU power and memory is not a particularly good thing.

How sad have you got to be - looking forward to a release of Microsoft Office!

Why the personal attacks on people? No one is "sad" for awaiting a new Office release. Some people, like me, like the Ribbon and are excited about getting that innovation in the rest of office, like Outlook. Since I live in Outlook this is a great improvement.

Microsoft has been releasing a lot of new things, but us customers also want improvements to the products we depend on. You might want to stay in the dark ages at some random point in history and glorify it as the second coming, but I'd prefer to see improvements.

boho said,

How sad have you got to be - looking forward to a release of Microsoft Office!

Not as sad as the guy spewing anti-Microsoft hatred for no reason. Software improves and evolves. It doens't make any sense to support old software after a period of time. That would be why Microsoft announces product life cycles. If you choose to use unsupported and dated software that's fine but try not to bring down people that want to stay on the cutting edge. If you don't like change and use expletives to describe the products you use in your day to day job you are definitely in the wrong industry.

boho said,
Microsoft seem to be churning out software like there's no tomorrow. The trouble is, it's "the same old same old" (chose your own expletive).

I guess they need to work on shorter product life, to force people into continual software upgrades and software assurance, after the Windows XP hiatus.

We still use Windows 2000 (Terminal Services) and Office 2000. With the compatibility kit that Microsoft kindly gave away for free, we don't need to upgrade anything YET! I'm with those decenters who think that ever more bloated software that requires ever greater CPU power and memory is not a particularly good thing.

How sad have you got to be - looking forward to a release of Microsoft Office!

Do you even know WHAT bloat is? Does anyone remember anymore what it is?

Personally been using the beta's, a few glitches here and there, like Outlook stops responding sometimes when using the CTRL + Enter to send mail, and then might randomly stop responding during email creation. These glitches tho only happen to me maybe 2 or 3 times a month... overall am pretty impressed with the whole thing, and i actually like the ribbon. I like the fact you can hide it, customise it, but there are shortcut keys to do most functions, and once you get those puppies into your noodle, bob's your uncle!
Definitely looking forward to the RC, and can't wait for the final!
Next step, Win8..... :)

I hope that the CPU utilisation issue with Outlook 2010 x64 has been sorted. I was using it on my Windows 7 and it was not kind to say the least to my CPU.

I just like it how people decide to *hate* the Ribbon most likely because they *heard* that it was bad. Just give it a try and invest some time into learning the new positions and features.
Beause usually every command is max 2 clicks away (3 in very specific cases; 1 if the required ribbon "page" is already opened).

In case you don't just wanna try it and learn them on your own, http://www.officelabs.com/ribbonhero is an awesome way to learn how to use the new features; even for me I was able to learn something new...

I just love how you assume that everyone that doesn't like the ribbon hasn't used it. As for those 2 to 3 clicks away, I can do everything in 2003 with keyboard shortcuts and never once touch a mouse to do it. There's still times with 2007/2010 that you have use the mouse.

iamwhoiam said,
I just love how you assume that everyone that doesn't like the ribbon hasn't used it. As for those 2 to 3 clicks away, I can do everything in 2003 with keyboard shortcuts and never once touch a mouse to do it. There's still times with 2007/2010 that you have use the mouse.
Out of curiosity, witch commands will require a mouse in 2007/2010?

Edited by Pezzen, Feb 3 2010, 8:17pm :

iamwhoiam said,
I just love how you assume that everyone that doesn't like the ribbon hasn't used it. As for those 2 to 3 clicks away, I can do everything in 2003 with keyboard shortcuts and never once touch a mouse to do it. There's still times with 2007/2010 that you have use the mouse.

And if you bothered using the ribbon, you'd know that pressing ALT shows you ALL the major shortcuts and after 2 minutes, you can do ANYTHING you want extremely quickly without even touching the mouse.

iamwhoiam said,
I just love how you assume that everyone that doesn't like the ribbon hasn't used it. As for those 2 to 3 clicks away, I can do everything in 2003 with keyboard shortcuts and never once touch a mouse to do it. There's still times with 2007/2010 that you have use the mouse.

And if you bothered using the ribbon, you'd know that pressing ALT shows you ALL the major shortcuts and after 2 minutes, you can do ANYTHING you want extremely quickly without even touching the mouse.

smithy_dll said,
Home & Student edition needs outlook.

Though it's not the same, Windows Live Mail is pretty good. It even seems that the Wave 4 version that's coming out soon will also get a Ribbon UI, and base level Outlook features. OneNote, however, does not have a really better alternative, so I'm glad MS decided to bundle that instead.

smithy_dll said,
Home & Student edition needs outlook.

Buy it separately or get Office Basic. Two very easy solutions.

Ribbon interface is great. It sets all common used features at your finger tips. People just need to try it and give it time and it does improve productivity time. No more digging in menus for that hidden feature. Thank you MS.

Kingv84 said,
Ribbon interface is great. It sets all common used features at your finger tips. People just need to try it and give it time and it does improve productivity time. No more digging in menus for that hidden feature. Thank you MS.

+1
It became more intuitive in 2010. Some people can not take the change easily, though.

zagor said,

+1
It became more intuitive in 2010. Some people can not take the change easily, though.

Indeed my friend. I can not wait to give the full version 2010 a go. :-)

ObiWanToby said,
Comming to technet or MSDN?

Most likely slightly before or around general availability as they have done so before.

Kristan K said,

Most likely slightly before or around general availability as they have done so before.

I guess it does not matter too much. I can test most of my addins with the public beta. There are some that are out of my control, such as math type.

Anybody know which build was sent to testers? And I don't think build 4734 has leaked.

Finally, though the June release date is probably correct, I haven't seen any official confirmation of that. And no, some blog writer that knows a MS spokesperson is not an official confirmation.

sexypeperodri said,
I've used the beta and it definitively needs a lot of work, it can improve by a mile.

duh .. a lot of work has already been done since then.

sexypeperodri said,
I've used the beta and it definitively needs a lot of work, it can improve by a mile.

how so? i found it amazing, even if similar to 07 of course. name a few things.

th3rEsa said,
Still a counter-productive UI, eh?

Unless a Microsoft Employee has you at Gunpoint demanding you purchase Office 2010 when its available, no one is forcing you to buy and/or use it. :)

Edited by Grinch, Feb 3 2010, 2:18am :

Although I am not forced to use it, I am free to express my opinion about their "ribbon" bs. I don't think the comments here are only open for a homage to Microsoft's great innovations. :-)

th3rEsa said,
Although I am not forced to use it, I am free to express my opinion about their "ribbon" bs. I don't think the comments here are only open for a homage to Microsoft's great innovations. :-)

I never said you couldn't express your opinion (though I'm not sure that was directed towards me). I am just saying, no one is forcing you to use it. May want to check under your bed for a Microsoft Employee though. ;)

th3rEsa said,
Still a counter-productive UI, eh?

Well, the ribbon interface was pretty crappy in 2007. But in 2010 at least it is customizable. I think that my opinion of the ribbon interface may change with 2010. Thank god I'm still on 2003 at work. I have 2007 at home, and hate it.

For the most part, the ribbon interface was praised by people who don't really "live" in Word or Excel. The power of 2003 was the customization. I have everything that I need on my toolbar and nothing that I did not need. The result is a much cleaner and to-the-point interface than 2007 could ever provide. 2007 was a lot of fun for people who love clicking their mouse buttons though... click-click-click-click Yay italics! Screw that.

Edited by Shadrack, Feb 3 2010, 2:34am :

DarkNovaGamer said,

though I'm not sure that was directed towards me

It actually was. ;-)

DarkNovaGamer said,

May want to check under your bed for a Microsoft Employee though. ;)

Hm, that rather sounds like Google.

Shadrack said,

2007 was a lot of fun for people who love clicking their mouse buttons though... click-click-click-click Yay italics! Screw that.

So has it improved in 2010? Can I actually /disable/ these 800x600 buttons on the top?
I've read that the ribbons can also be used with the keyboard, by simply pressing Cttrl and Shift and Num-something and... I must admit that screenshots were enough for me to not even /try/ Office after 2003...

Edited by th3rEsa, Feb 3 2010, 2:56am :

th3rEsa said,

It actually was. ;-)


Hm, that rather sounds like Google.

Hehe, Yes, it actually does. Oddly, after you posted that comment, Google Chrome wouldn't display this page properly (something about an unknown photobucket image?) all better now though.

th3rEsa said,

Hm, sounds like a greeeaat browser...

In fairness, Firefox wouldn't display it properly for a brief moment either. Then bother went back to normal. Just thought it was funny Google Chrome messed up after your little post about it sounding like a google thing.

It is a great browser. Glad you agree!

DarkNovaGamer said,

Just thought it was funny Google Chrome messed up after your little post about it sounding like a google thing.

A screen shot would have been fine. :D

DarkNovaGamer said,
It is a great browser. Glad you agree!

It was rather sarcastic. Google is one of the two concerns which are, hm, not my first choice... the other one is Apple. NOTHING one of them had EVER released would have been innovative. Both Apple and Google make money with copying from a few decades before. (The iPad, hm... remember the Atari STpad from 1991? But I'm getting off-topic here...)

Google also has some weird imaginations of privacy issues... Google is on my filter lists. All of its servers are. Including the search engine. :)

th3rEsa said,

A screen shot would have been fine. :D


It was rather sarcastic. Google is one of the two concerns which are, hm, not my first choice... the other one is Apple. NOTHING one of them had EVER released would have been innovative. Both Apple and Google make money with copying from a few decades before. (The iPad, hm... remember the Atari STpad from 1991? But I'm getting off-topic here...)

Google also has some weird imaginations of privacy issues... Google is on my filter lists. All of its servers are. Including the search engine. :)

When I get bored I play around with OSx86 on my HP laptop (Snow Leopard + Vanilla ftw). Err I mean, I love Chrome for its speed. I like firefox with Spewboy's strata40 mockup.

Apple has issues, plain and simple.
Google is trying to get into EVERY market. Next I bet we will see Google Anti-Virus (unless one exists already).

Yes I also know you were being sarcastic, as was I with my 'Glad you agree!' part. Didn't think to screenshot it but if it happens again I'll gladly Screenshot it.

Okay now I'm really off-topic from the article... to make this comment not spam... hmm.. Oh!

I hope they decide to do a public RC. Aha. Not spam.

Now what does that have to do with being a grandma? So you say, modern is everything, and established ways of usability are bs because they are old? Oh, come on. Go buy a Mac.

th3rEsa said,
Still a counter-productive UI, eh?

I like the Ribbon personally. Though some people seem to be hesitant of it initially, everyone that has used it for any length of time seem to love it.

Have you actually USED the Ribbon for any length of time, or are you basing your opinion solely on screen shots?

M_Lyons10 said,

everyone that has used it for any length of time seem to love it.

I don't like using a mouse, so I am probably not even in their target audience.

M_Lyons10 said,

Have you actually USED the Ribbon for any length of time, or are you basing your opinion solely on screen shots?

Screenshots and Microsoft's description of what they do and how they work.
I do use another (non-Office) application which has "ribbons", but it always runs in the background... I can't see /any/ advantage in this... thing. A waste of space IMO.

Edited by th3rEsa, Feb 3 2010, 4:59am :

th3rEsa said,
Although I am not forced to use it, I am free to express my opinion about their "ribbon" bs. I don't think the comments here are only open for a homage to Microsoft's great innovations. :-)

No one here has tried to silence you. It always seem like one of the last lines of defense for a defenseless position is to claim ones right to free speech.

Of course there is no perfect UI for 100% of people. That is a given. However of all the Office UI attempts out there the ribbon is by far the most lauded.

Shadrack said,

Well, the ribbon interface was pretty crappy in 2007. But in 2010 at least it is customizable. I think that my opinion of the ribbon interface may change with 2010. Thank god I'm still on 2003 at work. I have 2007 at home, and hate it.

For the most part, the ribbon interface was praised by people who don't really "live" in Word or Excel. The power of 2003 was the customization. I have everything that I need on my toolbar and nothing that I did not need. The result is a much cleaner and to-the-point interface than 2007 could ever provide. 2007 was a lot of fun for people who love clicking their mouse buttons though... click-click-click-click Yay italics! Screw that.


IMO, I think the ribbon in any application sucks. It's nothing more than a glorified tab control that, unfortunately, is making its way into everything. I'll admit that the speed of 2010 is nice, but for any real work, I still use 2003. There's nothing that I hate more than a redesigned app interface for the hell of it.

Shadrack said,

For the most part, the ribbon interface was praised by people who don't really "live" in Word or Excel. The power of 2003 was the customization. I have everything that I need on my toolbar and nothing that I did not need. The result is a much cleaner and to-the-point interface than 2007 could ever provide. 2007 was a lot of fun for people who love clicking their mouse buttons though... click-click-click-click Yay italics! Screw that.

Well, personally for me, I use both Word and Excel extensively and I'll tell you that I love using the ribbon. Now that Office 2010 actually let's you customize it, it's even better! What are you talking about click-click-click-click, anyway? You had to click in Office 2003. And you didn't have the floating menu available like in Office 2007 and 2010, which is a real time saver. I think sometimes people come out against a change, especially when there's excitement about it because they don't want to be viewed as "going along with the ignorant masses" and not necessarily because the changes are not better. That might not be the case with you, but you gotta admit, there are people who hate change just because it's different.

devHead said,

Well, personally for me, I use both Word and Excel extensively and I'll tell you that I love using the ribbon. Now that Office 2010 actually let's you customize it, it's even better! What are you talking about click-click-click-click, anyway? You had to click in Office 2003. And you didn't have the floating menu available like in Office 2007 and 2010, which is a real time saver. I think sometimes people come out against a change, especially when there's excitement about it because they don't want to be viewed as "going along with the ignorant masses" and not necessarily because the changes are not better. That might not be the case with you, but you gotta admit, there are people who hate change just because it's different.

+1
The new ribbon interface is very helpful. As someone who uses word and powerpoint a lot, I can easily appreciate these new changes,

th3rEsa said,

So has it improved in 2010? Can I actually /disable/ these 800x600 buttons on the top?
I've read that the ribbons can also be used with the keyboard, by simply pressing Cttrl and Shift and Num-something and... I must admit that screenshots were enough for me to not even /try/ Office after 2003...

I think the last sentence tells everything.

Shadrack said,

2007 was a lot of fun for people who love clicking their mouse buttons though... click-click-click-click Yay italics! Screw that.

Actually it's more like one click = italics.

th3rEsa said,
Still a counter-productive UI, eh?

Are we seriously posting about a word processor's UI??? wow, I guess there is nothing left to talk about then. ITS A FREAKING WORD PROCESSOR that nobody uses at work because companies are cheap, and the only people that get it at home is because they got a deal with their PC. But seriously theresa or whatever the heck your name is. You wine much about office 2010 that you haven't even tried yet, so, in your opinion what is "the best" word processor UI out there then?? Aside from talking trash based on little picture online and what he said she said you do know that you can hide the freaking menu and used all the keyboard shortcuts like all the ppl that use office do. So if you can do that (but maybe you can't), who the cares about the UI really?? They are called keystrokes, research them, they are made so that you don't have to deal with the menus/UI if you don't like them. I love seeing ppl like you talk trash about anything new that comes out just because you can't figure a more logical way to deal with your outdated office training from Video Professor... I tell you what's counterproductive, talking crap about the office 2010's UI is, and share your opinion when you really aren't entitled to, not without trying the FREAKING APP YOU'RE TALKING TRASH ABOUT. Bottom line you don't have to use office. So here is the answer you are looking for. NO YOU DON'T HAVE USE OFFICE IF YOU DON'T LIKE IT, AND NO YOU ARE NOT ENTITLED TO TALK WHEN YOU REALLY DON'T HAVE AN OPINION. good luck chick!

qdave said,
So it's safe to get then :D

Seriuosly though, cant wait for proper rc.


cant wait!!! when ll it release to technet?