Microsoft exec slams low Google+ interaction rate

There's been some talk that Google+, the much maligned social networking service from Google, is actually starting to gain more and more users and might become a serious competitor to Facebook. Today, an executive at Microsoft downplayed Google+ in a new interview.

TechRadar chatted with Microsoft's corporate vice president for corporate communications Frank Shaw, who stated:

If I'm going to have a party with my Facebook friends, it looks like a lot of fun. I have a lot of Facebook friends. And then a party with my Google+ friends, I could probably have in a rowboat…

The Google+ comments come as part of an overall chat about Microsoft's business. Shaw doesn't really reveal anything new in the interview, other than some hints that its Bing service is going to be launching some new features that are "interesting and provocative". He added, "2013 is going to be a big year. Yes, we shipped a bunch of stuff in 2012 but there's more coming."

Shaw also offers some some very broad suggestions for the future of Windows 8 updates, saying that the company is " .. committed to building not just for the next month but for the next 18 months, 36 months - whatever the time is on this new platform."

The rivalry with Google will also continue and Shaw admits that in the search businesses, Microsoft and Bing are the "underdogs". He added, " ... you have to break through against people who use the other guy. And to do that have to say why you are different and why you are better."

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g+ is a fail and you know they are when google tries to force accounts by requiring them for reviewing android apps or even doing basic youtube tasks. I probably have a g+ account without knowing it so the fact google posts some user count as some accomplishment is meaningless when it remains a failed network used only by a few photographers and by people who want to do hangouts.

g+ is done.

As a long time supporter of Microsoft, this is how I know Microsoft is slowly dying in a painful death. Microsoft is far from being in a position to slam anything on Google. I could write an entire post on major issues that have alienated me and others to give Microsoft their walking papers. But I am not going to do it. Instead I am going to say what they need to be focusing on, if they want to have the big balls to talk about Google.

1.) Fix Bing, so you are not crying at the mercy of Google when they cut your Windows Phones access to Google Maps.

2.) Fix Outlook.com which does not allow you to sync your draft folder on Windows Phone,

3.) Finish Outlook.com which has been stuck in Beta since last June so that Gmail can feel some little sort of threat.

4.) Fix Xbox Music so that your current customers on Windows 8 and Windows Phone 8 are not longing to go back to Zune which is far more better.

5.) Fix Skype so that it works across your phones and your platform Right now it, it is so full of bugs that you all have literally had to cut it off in Windows Phone 8 and force your Windows Phone 8 users to the app like us Windows Phone 7.5 users are on. Come on Microsoft, this is your new Windows Phone 8 that you neglected Windows Phone 7.5 owners for.

6.) Focus on getting some major Apps for the Marketplace and not homemade ones. If Blackberry gets all the major apps for their platform, you all will start looking like fools.

7.) Focus on fixing Windows 8 so that people may be interested in upgrading.

8.) Stop being cheap with the Surface Tablet and charging more than it is worth to the customers who might have interest in it.

9.) Be creative and make service for Microsoft that doesn't rely on third parties. If Google can do it, I am quite sure you all can too.

10.) FIRE STEVE BALLMER !!!

Once you all make these changes, then you can sit and point and make fun of some of Google"s flaws. Right now, nobody is hearing you all.

JSYOUNG571 said,
As a long time supporter of Microsoft, this is how I know Microsoft is slowly dying in a painful death. Microsoft is far from being in a position to slam anything on Google. I could write an entire post on major issues that have alienated me and others to give Microsoft their walking papers. But I am not going to do it. Instead I am going to say what they need to be focusing on, if they want to have the big balls to talk about Google.

1.) Fix Bing, so you are not crying at the mercy of Google when they cut your Windows Phones access to Google Maps.

2.) Fix Outlook.com which does not allow you to sync your draft folder on Windows Phone,

3.) Finish Outlook.com which has been stuck in Beta since last June so that Gmail can feel some little sort of threat.

4.) Fix Xbox Music so that your current customers on Windows 8 and Windows Phone 8 are not longing to go back to Zune which is far more better.

5.) Fix Skype so that it works across your phones and your platform Right now it, it is so full of bugs that you all have literally had to cut it off in Windows Phone 8 and force your Windows Phone 8 users to the app like us Windows Phone 7.5 users are on. Come on Microsoft, this is your new Windows Phone 8 that you neglected Windows Phone 7.5 owners for.

6.) Focus on getting some major Apps for the Marketplace and not homemade ones. If Blackberry gets all the major apps for their platform, you all will start looking like fools.

7.) Focus on fixing Windows 8 so that people may be interested in upgrading.

8.) Stop being cheap with the Surface Tablet and charging more than it is worth to the customers who might have interest in it.

9.) Be creative and make service for Microsoft that doesn't rely on third parties. If Google can do it, I am quite sure you all can too.

10.) FIRE STEVE BALLMER !!!

Once you all make these changes, then you can sit and point and make fun of some of Google"s flaws. Right now, nobody is hearing you all.

^This.

1-5: so half your points about Microsoft dying is because of some bugs in some apps

6. that BS. Microsoft has done a great job in getting major apps. the wp8 sdk was released only a few months ago,and there are major apps/games that are coming out soon from gameloft,ea,glu. Go look at the top 200 free and paid apps on android and ios, there are a ton of them available on windows phone or coming soon. This is quite a feat to have all those when the platform is still small and growing. As for blackberry, half of those apps they are getting are just android apps with a wrapper,and most of them are already on windows phone too.

7.Windows 8 is only a few months in,and there are more users than any other desktop OS from another company,including Linux,and any version of macOS. Windows 8 will continue to get new features and updates.

8. Again,BS. Surface is worth what it costs. Great battery,big screen,great build,has USB and HDMI,supports USB devices, has office, browser has flash, and there is a good selection of games and apps.

9. You are ignorant. Skydrive,office,one note,xbox live,outlook,skype,bing. Yeah,really relying on 3rd parties.

10. Another ignorant statement. Microsoft keeps making record revenue and profits, he has a high approval rating with employees. Windows is doing really well and actually gaining marketshare on desktop. Office is still a beast. Xbox is now a household name,and has been destroying the competition. They just recently entered the tablet and mobile market but they created a platform that works from phone to tablet to tv(console) to desktop computer. This vision needs a little bit of time for all of this to fall into place,but when it does its going to be tough to beat, ever. You have to also remember that the smartphone market will double or triple in a few years. The amount of people buying smartphones now is small to whats its going to be. Microsoft is in a position to take over.

vcfan said,
1-5: so half your points about Microsoft dying is because of some bugs in some apps

6. that BS. Microsoft has done a great job in getting major apps. the wp8 sdk was released only a few months ago,and there are major apps/games that are coming out soon from gameloft,ea,glu. Go look at the top 200 free and paid apps on android and ios, there are a ton of them available on windows phone or coming soon. This is quite a feat to have all those when the platform is still small and growing. As for blackberry, half of those apps they are getting are just android apps with a wrapper,and most of them are already on windows phone too.

7.Windows 8 is only a few months in,and there are more users than any other desktop OS from another company,including Linux,and any version of macOS. Windows 8 will continue to get new features and updates.

8. Again,BS. Surface is worth what it costs. Great battery,big screen,great build,has USB and HDMI,supports USB devices, has office, browser has flash, and there is a good selection of games and apps.

9. You are ignorant. Skydrive,office,one note,xbox live,outlook,skype,bing. Yeah,really relying on 3rd parties.

10. Another ignorant statement. Microsoft keeps making record revenue and profits, he has a high approval rating with employees. Windows is doing really well and actually gaining marketshare on desktop. Office is still a beast. Xbox is now a household name,and has been destroying the competition. They just recently entered the tablet and mobile market but they created a platform that works from phone to tablet to tv(console) to desktop computer. This vision needs a little bit of time for all of this to fall into place,but when it does its going to be tough to beat, ever. You have to also remember that the smartphone market will double or triple in a few years. The amount of people buying smartphones now is small to whats its going to be. Microsoft is in a position to take over.


exactly, although I really have to agree with #4 - Xbox Music needs to be fixed ASAP.

JSYOUNG571 said
1.) Fix Bing, so you are not crying at the mercy of Google when they cut your Windows Phones access to Google Maps.

2.) Fix Outlook.com which does not allow you to sync your draft folder on Windows Phone,

3.) Finish Outlook.com which has been stuck in Beta since last June so that Gmail can feel some little sort of threat.

4.) Fix Xbox Music so that your current customers on Windows 8 and Windows Phone 8 are not longing to go back to Zune which is far more better.

5.) Fix Skype so that it works across your phones and your platform Right now it, it is so full of bugs that you all have literally had to cut it off in Windows Phone 8 and force your Windows Phone 8 users to the app like us Windows Phone 7.5 users are on. Come on Microsoft, this is your new Windows Phone 8 that you neglected Windows Phone 7.5 owners for.

Lol, that made me laugh.

JSYOUNG571 said
7.) Focus on fixing Windows 8 so that people may be interested in upgrading.
Just be reading this I can tell you've never used Windows 8 before. Windows 8 doesn't need any fixing. It's a well-polished, clean OS and it works just fine..

JSYOUNG571 said
8.) Stop being cheap with the Surface Tablet and charging more than it is worth to the customers who might have interest in it.
New products will always be a little more pricey at first. And please, have you ever taken a look at an Apple product. I love Apple, but their prices are too high for something that isn't really innovative or different than the alternatives.

vcfan said,
1-5: so half your points about Microsoft dying is because of some bugs in some apps

6. that BS. Microsoft has done a great job in getting major apps. the wp8 sdk was released only a few months ago,and there are major apps/games that are coming out soon from gameloft,ea,glu. Go look at the top 200 free and paid apps on android and ios, there are a ton of them available on windows phone or coming soon. This is quite a feat to have all those when the platform is still small and growing. As for blackberry, half of those apps they are getting are just android apps with a wrapper,and most of them are already on windows phone too.

7.Windows 8 is only a few months in,and there are more users than any other desktop OS from another company,including Linux,and any version of macOS. Windows 8 will continue to get new features and updates.

8. Again,BS. Surface is worth what it costs. Great battery,big screen,great build,has USB and HDMI,supports USB devices, has office, browser has flash, and there is a good selection of games and apps.

9. You are ignorant. Skydrive,office,one note,xbox live,outlook,skype,bing. Yeah,really relying on 3rd parties.

10. Another ignorant statement. Microsoft keeps making record revenue and profits, he has a high approval rating with employees. Windows is doing really well and actually gaining marketshare on desktop. Office is still a beast. Xbox is now a household name,and has been destroying the competition. They just recently entered the tablet and mobile market but they created a platform that works from phone to tablet to tv(console) to desktop computer. This vision needs a little bit of time for all of this to fall into place,but when it does its going to be tough to beat, ever. You have to also remember that the smartphone market will double or triple in a few years. The amount of people buying smartphones now is small to whats its going to be. Microsoft is in a position to take over.


Being an actual user of a WP8 device I would not call the music, the sync and the Skipe issues "little bugs".
As for MS "just entering the Tablet and mobile markets" well.... are you serious? Bill Gates invented the Tablet PC,and yes I said BG and not MS because there were so many haters of the project inside the company that if it was not for who BG is the project would have probably been killed in it infancy; as for the mobile market as far as today the old WM OS is still the best, more powerful, in terms of flexibility and functionalities, mobile OS ever made. Ask Palm who overnight destroyed their absolute dominion of what, at the time, was "the mobile market".

vcfan said,

7.Windows 8 is only a few months in,and there are more users than any other desktop OS from another company,including Linux,and any version of macOS. Windows 8 will continue to get new features and updates.

Well, it's shipped as OEM with most new hardware, so of course there is a rise in users, remember though that most business offers include a Windows 7 downgrade.
Also, most newer business desktops are still shipped with Windows 7.
New MS software should work flawless on a new MS OS, which isn't the case at the moment, it will get fixed, but until then it is better to wait it out and keep using Windows 7, this goes mainly for C#, ASP and .NET development, one has to keep in mind that we still need to support all systems and browsers and can't rely on an OS that gets in the way of server side code.
Bit of a shame, cause I was really hoping for Windows 8 to work out from start, since it has a few advantages over Windows 7, but sadly it still has some rather bad child diseases.

Mineria said
.. I was really hoping for Windows 8 to work out from start, since it has a few advantages over Windows 7, but sadly it still has some rather bad child diseases.
It has more than a "few advantages" and it's a big change from 7, mainly because of the new UI. Over time people will get used to it.

Don't care much for Facebook personally, only use it as news reader and talk to my parents from time to time. No one I know is on Google+, the only reason this thing is even around is because Google forces you to have an account hoping it would stick. But so far it hasn't

I use Google+ since it was available only to invited ppl, and i must say: it was good. It really was good. What makes a social network good or not is only the company, but the people in there. And the people in Google+ is almost like people in orkut. When I log in Google+ I avoid at any cost to read the comments. Most of the comments are from people I don't know, and everyone wants to know more than everyone else. I just get angry and close that ****. Really, the only social network I enjoy and see as something that can be useful is Twitter. Facebook and Google+ could hold each other hands and drop dead.

now if you want to review an app on play store you must have google+ account,let's hope in future we won't be forced to have an g+ account just to use google

Colin McGregor said,

neoslam lol funny /s

I'm so happy I qualified for a /s from you kind sir. Wasn't the best line i admit, just sick of the constant 'xxx slams xxx' headlines, when usually its 'xxx expresses a slightly negative opinion on xxxx' source. Anyhooooo thanks for the /s

/s

Order_66 said,
He needs 2 rowboats, one for google+ friends and the other for fans of windows 8.

lol did you really try to throw in that windows 8 slam? Wow that was a massive swing and miss.
Plus show me a rowboat that holds 60+ million people i'd be curious to see it.

Colin McGregor said,

lol did you really try to throw in that windows 8 slam? Wow that was a massive swing and miss.
Plus show me a rowboat that holds 60+ million people i'd be curious to see it.

Show me 60 million consumers who actually purchased windows 8, 60 million machines sitting on a shelf doesn't count.

Order_66 said
Show me 60 million consumers who actually purchased windows 8, 60 million machines sitting on a shelf doesn't count.
Show me 60 million machines with Windows 8 sitting on a shelf..

That is more about his personal experience..some people have more friends on G+ than FB (mostly relatives and real life friends only)

digitheatre said,
That is more about his personal experience..some people have more friends on G+ than FB (mostly relatives and real life friends only)

I agree. You're not really introduced if thinking G+ has low activity. I've used the latest community ("groups") feature and the problem was actually noise to me! Definitely not silence. And some users there have very active friends circled. I know a fairly computer illiterate nurse who recently joined a hangout there, so it's spreading beyond geeks too.

I think many are misunderstanding the network though, thinking of it a bit like Facebook. It's more like an "interest network" to me. More like Twitter in that way.

And as for this guy, I'm pretty sure he's just preaching to the choir.

I liked it better when companies used the products/services they produced to do the trash talking. MS...produce something better or clam up as you really have no place to talk.

I could see them reinventing the wheel of what MSN Messenger was. By using Skype technology of calling, videochat, text chat and integrate that with a new online social network. Using the Bing brand name?

techbeck said,
I liked it better when companies used the products/services they produced to do the trash talking. MS...produce something better or clam up as you really have no place to talk.
What's, he's not allowed to offer an opinion on a service he doesn't have a direct competitor with now?

google+ is exactly the same as So.cl

except Microsoft is more doing it for fun and not forcing everyone that gets a windows computer to also get social

techbeck said,
I liked it better when companies used the products/services they produced to do the trash talking. MS...produce something better or clam up as you really have no place to talk.

Eh, I don't exactly like that it's coming from Microsoft, but I'm still in agreement, no doubt.

techbeck said,
I liked it better when companies used the products/services they produced to do the trash talking. MS...produce something better or clam up as you really have no place to talk.

Microsoft is extremely close with Facebook - IIRC, they were considering buying them back in 2007, but instead decided to invest in something like 1.5% of them (which is still a significant investment, even if the percentage looks small). That's why the new Graph Search is using Bing, the current search is using Bing, translations are powered by Bing, maps are powered by Bing, and porn detection software is powered by a Microsoft Research project on Facebook. It's not exactly a Microsoft product, but they've been close to Facebook for a while.

At Google, Google+ must be a giant inside joke or something because going there is like visiting a ghost town, minus the ghosts.

Jeex said,
Exactly like Facebook (or any other social network) if you don't have any "friends" to follow.

I have several hundred "friends" on Facebook and Google +. If I were to visit Google +, I would find 2 posters posting stuff every few months, the same 2 that have used it since I first started using it.

Facebook, on the other hand, is alive and bustling with activity.

There's all sorts of people signed up for Google+ but no one is using it.

I guess it depends what kind of friends you have and also what you're interested in.

My Facebook stream consists of images of famous quotes, cat pictures and the (rare) personal photo from a friend or family member.

My Google+ stream is updated almost every minute, with interesting and eye-opening posts (e.g. an in-depth discussion right now about the evolution of humans, or discussions about European politics), despite the fact that I'm "only" following about 25 active posters. The "what's hot" stream is improving too, and I've always appreciated the "nearby" stream as I travel a lot.

I guess it boils down to personal appreciation, and the time you spend investing in one network or another.

siah1214 said,

I have several hundred "friends" on Facebook and Google +. If I were to visit Google +, I would find 2 posters posting stuff every few months, the same 2 that have used it since I first started using it.

Facebook, on the other hand, is alive and bustling with activity.

There's all sorts of people signed up for Google+ but no one is using it.

That's because you are forced to use Google+ and not facebook. When I sign in to my youtube account it says im logged into google+. I didn't sign up for google+, and I didn't ask to be signed up.

ahinson said,
At Google, Google+ must be a giant inside joke or something because going there is like visiting a ghost town, minus the ghosts.

To be fair Google + is like windows phone. Nice and shiny look, heavily invested on, lot of features but lacks of people's interest-

S3P€hR said,

To be fair Google + is like windows phone. Nice and shiny look, heavily invested on, lot of features but lacks of people's interest-

Not true. Those who use WP, actually want/buy it whereas most G+ users are forced to use it.

BajiRav said,

Not true. Those who use WP, actually want/buy it whereas most G+ users are forced to use it.

I wasn't talking about the people who are using it and also I know some people who like Google+ and are using it. As for me I don't like Facebook at all but because my friends 99% are there I use it too. I was just saying its not that bad.

ahinson said,
At Google, Google+ must be a giant inside joke or something because going there is like visiting a ghost town, minus the ghosts.

Tried the new communities feature yet?

My problem was the opposite. So much noise.

Colin McGregor said,
That's because you are forced to use Google+ and not facebook. When I sign in to my youtube account it says im logged into google+. I didn't sign up for google+, and I didn't ask to be signed up.

Exactly this! I wanted to rate an awesome Android app. Told me I needed a Google+ account for that. The one I have is different than the email address I normally use for everything Android, and I don't plan on having two G+ accounts when I don't use the first to begin with. That's just stupid.

The only talk about g+ gaining users is coming from google themselves as they try to promote G+ and make it seem that people actually use it.

Jeex said,
My Google+ stream is updated almost every minute, with interesting and eye-opening posts

hahahahahaha - you had me going there for a minute!

good joke.

Colin McGregor said,
When I sign in to my youtube account it says im logged into google+. I didn't sign up for google+, and I didn't ask to be signed up.

I deleted my G+ profile and haven't looked back once. No more being logged into G+ versions of websites like picasa or youtube etc.

The "worst" thing that happened to me was that I couldn't make a comment about something - "oh dear", so sad, too bad.

dvb2000 said,

hahahahahaha - you had me going there for a minute!

good joke.

It's funny to read comment from Google haters ..they keep denying the fact that G+ already gaining popularity from users ..in the same time they already opt out from using G+ long time ago when users not as many as today