Microsoft execs saw problems with early Vista

Even some of Microsoft Corp.'s top officials struggled to make Windows Vista work smoothly when it was released, according to internal e-mails released Wednesday.

The messages, unsealed in a lawsuit against the company, show that Vista's early problems with hardware and software compatibility affected more than just average PC users. The e-mails also illustrate how the company will try to avoid such issues in the next Windows release.

"We need to be clearer with industry, and we need to decide what we will do and do that well and 100 percent and not just do a little of everything," wrote Steven Sinofsky, the Microsoft executive who took over Windows engineering after Vista's retail release in January 2007.

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Yeah, all you anti-Vista idiots can live in your little fantasy world believing whatever you want.

Vista works fine, and works with every piece of hardware I have, without bugs.

That's fine, you can enjoy your resource hogging os with a new interface. Problem is, not everyone wants that and not everyone has a perfect bug free experience as you so claim to.

In the end, we lowered the requirements to help Intel make their quarterly earnings so they could continue to sell motherboards with 915 graphics embedded.

Wow... I truly miss the days when Microsoft wasn't so deceitful and anti-consumer. Somebody needs shake things up there.

Anyone who read the comments section of Mini-Microsoft http://minimsft.blogspot.com/ (he is an anonymous Microsoft employee - who Microsoft have tried trace, but failed) will know that Vista developers were saying that they were releasing Vista a year too soon. This is not exactly news to those "in the loop" Mini's blogs and the comments section are an insight into Microsoft, though the jargon can be a little hard going!

If you read the article, it appears Microsoft lowered the driver standard's / to help intel out due to the number of 915/945 intel graphics and angered a lot of oem's, and wal-mart on the entire "Vista" capable campaign situation.

yeah, that was the most shocking part of it. Especially as they knew it was going to upset the OEM's and confuse customers yet they still went ahead with it.

You can all live in denial as much as you want but Vista is not the Longhorn we were promised.

I should not be require to build/buy a quad core with 8 gigs of ram to just run the OS. I have other applications that need to be used.

PS: My biggest worry about Windows 7 is the fact that Steven Sinofsky is using a Brother Multi-functional printer...shows bad judgment on his part.

You've been severely misinformed if you think you need a quad with 8GB's of ram to run Vista. It runs perfectly fine, and has run perfectly fine, since March 2007 on my Core 2 Duo E6600 with 2GB's ram. Moreover, Vista is the first and only MS OS that I've not had to reinstall at least a few times per year due to speed issues, compatibility issues, crashes, etc. Vista is a huge improvement over XP and earlier versions of Windows.

I run it fine on an Athlon 64 3000+ with 1.5Gb DDR1 RAM (the same machine that ran XP fine for years). You don't need an uber PC to run Vista in all it's glory (smoothly) you just need compatible hardware! :P. However, gaming in Vista is another story though.

(Justin- said @ #4.1)
You've been severely misinformed if you think you need a quad with 8GB's of ram to run Vista. It runs perfectly fine, and has run perfectly fine, since March 2007 on my Core 2 Duo E6600 with 2GB's ram. Moreover, Vista is the first and only MS OS that I've not had to reinstall at least a few times per year due to speed issues, compatibility issues, crashes, etc. Vista is a huge improvement over XP and earlier versions of Windows.

I've been running XP since it came out and never had to reinstall because of slow downs. XP still is and has remained just as fast as the day I installed it for each computer I have installed it on in my house.

I guess I'm the only one that has been happy with Vista?
I have somewhat current hardware (Dell E1505, 2gig ram).
I've had Vista running for 11 months. Wiped it and installed fresh with SP1, and still no problems.
I popped my XP drive back in and played around with it for a couple of days and went back to Vista.
For me, personally, the prefetch is worth it.

Nope, you're not the only one. I've been using Vista since it was RTM and was made available for MSDN subscribers. No problems here, don't mind UAC, don't play games much so that's not an issue either.

I have to say, the discussion they had about Intel and lowering the standard so the 915 chipset could be included under the capable thing was pretty damn lame. They knew confusing customers by not making glass a requirement was a bad thing and one of the exec's was even personally burned by it. They shouldn't have bowed down to Intel over this.

Finally some naysayers around here will have to admit that Vista is buggy and imperfect, although improved in the last 12 months. I'm not shocked to learn that they knew of the bugs and of course remained silent.

(hardgiant said @ #1)
Finally some naysayers around here will have to admit that Vista is buggy and imperfect.


Vista with SP1 isnt Buggy....neowin has the article in the main page which compares windows xp sp2, windows vista RTM & windows vista SP1..

Also if you read the email, you can easily understand that partners werent working hard to make there driver working with Vista, because they thought vista wont be released so soon...

(guruparan said @ #1.1)

Vista with SP1 isnt Buggy....neowin has the article in the main page which compares windows xp sp2, windows vista RTM & windows vista SP1..

Also if you read the email, you can easily understand that partners werent working hard to make there driver working with Vista, because they thought vista wont be released so soon...

Bingo. The probelm was how Microsoft was working with the hardware makers so we could have good drivers. It would only be a problem if Miscrosoft made the hardware themselfs.

guruparan, no software is perfect and will have bugs in it.

(Doli said @ #1.2)
guruparan, no software is perfect and will have bugs in it.

True, but what went wrong with Vista was much much more than that....