Microsoft files complaint over XboxOne.com domain

Microsoft may have unveiled their brand new Xbox One console but one thing it didn’t do is launch new domains for that trademarked name. Sure, users can always go to Xbox.com but about XboxOne.com? Or XboxOne.net? Well those don’t belong to Microsoft just yet, and the company is fighting to get them.

Curious folks have always paid attention to Microsoft-registered domains so buying up XboxOne.com for example, would have ousted the name of the new console. Because they had to wait, Microsoft is now hurrying to register all the relevant domains for its Xbox One brand.

And as such they have filed a complaint with the National Arbitration Forum over the domains XboxOne.com and XboxOne.net, both of which are currently owned by a UK resident.

Microsoft generally has a lot of success when it comes to these kinds of disputes so there’s very little chance of things not going the way they want them to.

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I think Microsoft should suck it up, throw a few bucks at the guy and buy the domain(s)... Seriously, whatre they gonna do? take the domain owner to court? Screw that, just pay the man and get them without being a bully. It's not like MS is short of cash....

You guys are completely nuts. Domain squatters must die regardless of race, religion, nationality and which tech company they are a fanboy of.

Also, if this were Apple, the Neowin commenters would take a different stand. Disgusting.

Should I prepare a lawyer? I own an Xbox related domain that doesn't sound like 360 or ONE! Hmmmmm....!!!!!!!!!! =/

Not being funny as much as I love MS seriously the letter x with the letters box on the end of it should not be own able as a right in a certain font with a certain graphic maybe but not the word xbox on its on. As for the domain name, I don't know much on US trademark law but as far as I am concerned he didn't buy the right to sell a games console under the name just the domain. Microsoft should pay him for it.

My business name is trade marked, my products copyrighted. When I investigated similar actions as this, I was told to "you can attempt to buy it or you'll just have to use a different name" With enough money and clout, you can get anything you want, fairness and legality have nothing to do with it. Microsoft never looked into this beforehand because they knew it wouldn't matter, they would just take it. Those that defend this behavior are either useful idiots or worse, I have no use for either.

I know for sure this guy has had the domain for over a year. So, I don't know if MS will get away without having to pay him some kind of compensation. I hope they don't come after next..!

techbeck - once again opening your mouth and inserting the proverbial foot into it. You are like the little dog that one give up or stop barking. You don't know when to quit an argument even when you have been proven ineffective at getting your point across.

MS was "dumb"? Really? Are you worth billions of dollars because you are smart?

As it was mentioned earlier XBOXTWO.COM was a thought perhaps about what to name the 2nd GEN XBOX. 360 was decided and that was that.

FYI XBOX is a globally registered trademark and anything with XBOX in it will lose the battle if MS decided to want the name. You can't squat XBOX, APPLE, GOOGLE, etc.

Same reason retail stores can't be called APPLEFIX.COM or APPLEU.COM - As APPLE is a globally registered trademark/name it cannot be used. It can be called MACFIX or MACU. It doesn't give the indication it is APPLE related or endorsed company but more of a place that sells APPLE Products such as the MACBOOKS, iMACs, etc.

I can go and buy APPLEONE.COM but I can't have it or sell it back to APPLE if they so choose to want it back. Especially since I haven't established any presence as to my intention with the site.

A big one that people didn't mention was NISSAN.COM. I am glad he made this stand and still making his stand. He earned his right. Squatting doesn't deserve any rights.

Sonne - MS won't lose or pay. If the guy fights he will lose.

Anpother thing people are missing, is if a company releases a product, it is likely that product will have a sequel. Since XBOX is already trademarked and it is asummed another would follow, XBOX ONE and XBOX TWO or THREE is kinda obvious.

What everyone should be asking is, why would anyone make a domain with the word XBOX in it, knowing XBOX is already owned by someone?

It basically shows this person set it up hoping it could et used so they could get some free cash. I hope they don't get a penny and likely won't. The name XBOX is already owned which means MS will likely win on a legal front; and they should.

What everyone seems to be missing is very simple. XBOX has been trademarked by Microsoft more than 8 years ago before they released the first XBOX. That means XBOX ONE is merely a variation of that trademark. It shouldn't have even been allowed to be created since the name is already owned by someone.

The fact is Microsoft will have a valid argument because ethey have paid for the trademark which prevents the use of the name usage anywhere else. When people think of XBOX of only product that will come to mind is the product made by Microsoft.

Whole everyone is saying MS needs to pay? They already paid for ownership. How many more times do they have to pay. This isn't your family name that may exist somewhere else. This is a name they paid for an branded as theirs. Microsoft shouldn't have to pay anything. It doesn't matter that this idiot bought the domain 18 months ago. The fact is Microsoft trademark XBOX more than 18 months again. They already own it.

Again the haters always want to make Microsoft look like the bad guy. Did all of you say these things about Apple? Look how many names Apple STOLE from people and paid them later for it? Like McIntosh, iPhone, iPad, iPod, Apple and more. Stop being so hating on Microsoft for everything they do. In this case they are in the right.

Stephen Bink owned windowsxp.nu not .ru. Can anyone remember the mikerowesoft.com domain battle few years ago

Reminds me of bink.nu... The same guy owned windowsxp.ru and Microsoft forced the domain out of his hands but gave him certification for his co-operation.

Why? If you go try and register a domain you will see how many domains are just parked. Unused in the hope the 'owner' gets a bag of money from a company like Microsoft. This squatting of domains sucks horribly and should be countered where ever possible.

Either use the domain or give it up for someone that will use it.

Is it me, or is j2006 a Microsoft paid shill? He keeps Copy&Pasting his post as a rebuttal for everyone who thinks that Microsoft isn't entitled to the domain strictly on the basis of trademark.

king_of_hearts said,
Is it me, or is j2006 a Microsoft paid shill? He keeps Copy&Pasting his post as a rebuttal for everyone who thinks that Microsoft isn't entitled to the domain strictly on the basis of trademark.

I know right? I'm sick of this **** already.

They have rights to the name in the computer/video games industry. If these domains were either empty or related to that then they should be able to get that.

But if someone was coincidentally selling an unrelated product, called say an Xbox toaster oven, with it's own trademark and brand in the food industry that would be a different matter.

Comments here prove without a doubt that people cough (sony fanboys) cough will trash MS for anything.

Internet domain squatting has been an issue for years and the courts have favored the copyright owner which is MS in this case. It is pretty much open and shut. You can stop your petty ignorant crap and understand this issue will be taken care of quickly and MS is fully within their rights to acquire a domain based on a copywrighted name they own.

I don't see why people are making such a big fuss over this. Tons of companies (both large and small) go through this everyday for names containing their trademark. Of course, since it's Microsoft everyone has to go all crazy and say they're their bad guys, when really they have the right to this domain since it contains their trademarked "Xbox" name.

No Microsoft does not have the right for every domain name containing Xbox.
However XboxOne is their product name, and this site is only being parked. Its not being used and someone hopes to be bought out.

The fact that the word "Xbox" is in the domain name, automatically means Microsoft is entitled to that domain. It's copywrited and trademarked to Microsoft. Also "Xbox" was trademarked before this domain was created. Also, this domain is not even being used, it's a pointer lol.

It's probably good enough that Xbox is in the name for Microsoft to get it back. Both domains are parked at godaddy.

MS, if you want the domain, then pay the owner. Being a big legal/bully doesn't help your case. You got billions just sitting there so make use of some of it.

"Xbox" is trademarked to Microsoft. It's just like if someone tried to get a domain for "NikeOne.com"... Nike would have the right to obtain that domain since that person didn't get permission to use Nike's trademarked name.

Nike as a name is a lot older than some sporting goods company, so, no, unless NikeOne.com was also in the sports goods business.

Or perhaps the Beatles should have just paid Apple for having temerity of having a similarly named record label.

mrbester said,
Nike as a name is a lot older than some sporting goods company, so, no, unless NikeOne.com was also in the sports goods business.

Or perhaps the Beatles should have just paid Apple for having temerity of having a similarly named record label.


Apple is Apple. But if appleone was used for example, this could be a fruit factory for delivering number one applet, right?

You don't automatically own the right to every domain name containing your trademark. This is completely false.
But for xbox.tld they can attempt to get ownership since its the exact same trademark name. Except if the site is actively used, and they are not wiling to cooperate, Microsoft would be able to take it by legal actions.
And if the domain in question is only parked, those legal actions are easy and standard practice.

j2006 said,
"Xbox" is trademarked to Microsoft. It's just like if someone tried to get a domain for "NikeOne.com"... Nike would have the right to obtain that domain since that person didn't get permission to use Nike's trademarked name.

Best sue the greeks for using the name for a goddess eh?

Or how about stop being ridiculous.

"Curious folks have always paid attention to Microsoft-registered domains so buying up XboxOne.com for example, would have ousted the name of the new console. [...]"

Or, Microsoft could just register the domain using an anonymous service.

However, when was this domain registered? Dec 2011? I see..! Microsoft can just **** off then. There is NO WAY MSFT can prove this has been done in mala fides.

"Xbox" is trademarked to Microsoft. It's just like if someone tried to get a domain for "NikeOne.com"... Nike would have the right to obtain that domain since that person didn't get permission to use Nike's trademarked name. It's just like how Madonna was able to get her domain from a porn site with the same name.

So the domain hijackers win? People who own domain names just for the sake of this? Hoping that a massive multi-billion company releases a product that matches your domain name so they have to buy you out?

No, its against ICANN policy to park domains and actions can be taken against parked domains.

For more info:
http://www.icann.org/en/help/dndr/udrp

And the registar of xboxone.com is a very shady registar.

pmdci said,
"Curious folks have always paid attention to Microsoft-registered domains so buying up XboxOne.com for example, would have ousted the name of the new console. [...]"

Or, Microsoft could just register the domain using an anonymous service.

However, when was this domain registered? Dec 2011? I see..! Microsoft can just **** off then. There is NO WAY MSFT can prove this has been done in mala fides.

Really? How about the fact Microsoft trademarked the name XBOX prior to 2001?

Microsoft...stop being a big bully and start acting ethically. (Of late, that seems to be in short supply.) Pay the owner of the domain name a reasonable price and go on from there.

"Xbox" is trademarked to Microsoft. It's just like if someone tried to get a domain for "NikeOne.com"... Nike would have the right to obtain that domain since that person didn't get permission to use Nike's trademarked name.

j2006 said,
"Xbox" is trademarked to Microsoft. It's just like if someone tried to get a domain for "NikeOne.com"... Nike would have the right to obtain that domain since that person didn't get permission to use Nike's trademarked name.

That's true. But NikeOne could've been a different product than nike + not every country known nikeor even xboxone for example. So if they got the domain first or use it to offer some sort of services in UK, than they can have it.

Yeah given it existed well before the announcement they could have offered to purchase it but at the end of the day it wouldnt be a news story then would it, and they say no press is bad press, plus if they register the trademark theyll be awarded the domain so win win for them really.

Call em evil, truth is no one will remember nor care about this a cpl of weeks from now.

Why should they be awarded the domain just because there is a trademark that was created after the domain was registered?
Let's take your nick as an example. You make a product, call it the Osiris and trademark it. Should you automatically get osiris.com? Of course not, which is why there is osirisclothing, osirismusic, osirisshoes, etc. even though these are run by completely different companies called Osiris

mrbester said,
Why should they be awarded the domain just because there is a trademark that was created after the domain was registered?

Well that's the thing, XBox was trademarked before this domain was registered. It was originally used as an XBox news site back in 2002. Microsoft's trademark was first, not this domain.

Max Norris said,

Well that's the thing, XBox was trademarked before this domain was registered. It was originally used as an XBox news site back in 2002. Microsoft's trademark was first, not this domain.

Yes, for XBox. No one is disputing that. However there wasn't a trademark for XboxOne (spacing optional) until a few days ago. So the original registrant (long before the current one) was "first".

mrbester said,
Why should they be awarded the domain just because there is a trademark that was created after the domain was registered?
Let's take your nick as an example. You make a product, call it the Osiris and trademark it. Should you automatically get osiris.com? Of course not, which is why there is osirisclothing, osirismusic, osirisshoes, etc. even though these are run by completely different companies called Osiris

Microsoft will not be granted the website by legal actions if the domain in question is in active usage.
Which it isn't.
It's a parked domain, the registar has a DNS pointing to your localhost.....
Microsoft has every right to take the domain by force if required.

mrbester said,
Yes, for XBox. No one is disputing that. However there wasn't a trademark for XboxOne (spacing optional) until a few days ago. So the original registrant (long before the current one) was "first".

*sigh* Forget the XBox One for a minute and take a look at the actual site. It's called "X-Box.1", not "XBox One". It was created in 2002 and it's specifically about the original XBox. Microsoft is well within their rights to call foul on using the XBox name if they so choose.

Shadowzz said,
if the domain in question is in active usage.
Which it isn't.

I'm sorry, but you don't know that and professing to know otherwise is making you look like an idiot to those who know what they're talking about. A lack of a website does not mean the domain isn't "in active use". tcln.com, my domain, doesn't have a site currently and the domain is heavily used for my family's email. XboxOne.com does have MX records pointing to smtp.secureserver.net (GoDaddy's email hosting).

"Creation Date: 29-dec-2011"

Also note that back in the more distant past (like 2005 and before) this domain was operational too either by the same owner or someone else.

Microsoft should be told to **** off.

AWKM said,
"Creation Date: 29-dec-2011"

Also note that back in the more distant past (like 2005 and before) this domain was operational too either by the same owner or someone else.

Microsoft should be told to **** off.

Second that! Who do they think they are?

AWKM said,
"Creation Date: 29-dec-2011"

Also note that back in the more distant past (like 2005 and before) this domain was operational too either by the same owner or someone else.

Microsoft should be told to **** off.

XBOXONE is not even being used tho. Why keep it and not use it?

techbeck said,

XBOXONE is not even being used tho. Why keep it and not use it?

just because it doesn't have an actual website on the domain name, it may still be used for DNS pointer records or mail pointers for that matter.

Mando said,

just because it doesn't have an actual website on the domain name, it may still be used for DNS pointer records or mail pointers for that matter.

Did you type in XBOXONE.COM? It is not being usd even as a pointer.

The registars website, domaincontrol.com has a DNS record of 127.0.0.1......

Nono, not fishy at all.

Funfact though, the mailservers of domaincontrol.com are in the end pointing to a subdomain of outlook.com

techbeck said,

XBOXONE is not even being used tho. Why keep it and not use it?

Domains aren't just for placing webpages on.

Shadowzz said,
The registars website, domaincontrol.com has a DNS record of 127.0.0.1......

Nono, not fishy at all.

Funfact though, the mailservers of domaincontrol.com are in the end pointing to a subdomain of outlook.com

Nope, not fishy in the slightest. Godaddy (the registrar) use domaincontrol.com as a holding domain for registrations and nameservers. It allows them to have more control over domain privacy etc, and allows them to keep their domain operations separate from their primary domain name.

And how is the fact they are using one of Microsoft's email offerings (such as Office 365, or domains.live.com) even the remotest bit "funny"? I too use domains.live.com to host my own domain's email services.

Dan~ said,
They should of checked websites first, before naming the new console, saves all this cafuffle

Agreed, it the lazyness of Microsoft part.

Not directly to reference what is happening here, but, since people watch what MS does, why don't they just use holding companies or even random individuals name used for registering the domain names of products beforehand, then transfer it to the parent MS Corp when the launch happens..

Waiting till launch day ( or just after ) is a little last minute.

Would think MS would already know to register a site with their upcoming brand name waaaay before they revealed it...... Is it just me, or does MS lately seem to have their head up their ass?

shakey said,
Would think MS would already know to register a site with their upcoming brand name waaaay before they revealed it...... Is it just me, or does MS lately seem to have their head up their ass?

Did you even read the article?

shakey said,
Would think MS would already know to register a site with their upcoming brand name waaaay before they revealed it...... Is it just me, or does MS lately seem to have their head up their ass?

From what I understand, these domains were registered 18 months ago...

But on other ridiculous decisions relative to this console, I agree with your statement.

you missed

Curious folks have always paid attention to Microsoft-registered domains so buying up XboxOne.com for example, would have ousted the name of the new console. Because they had to wait, Microsoft is now hurrying to register all the relevant domains for its Xbox One brand

They didn't want to tip their hand. Plus XBoxOne.com was created on 29-Dec-11 so unless Microsoft new their devices names years in advanced this person be them to it. Sadly it looks like a parked site, nothing active so it will most likely go to Microsoft.

PmRd said,

Did you even read the article?

Did you read my "waaaaay" word?
And if it was registered so long ago and used for real reasons, MS is going about this the wrong way and needs to buy the rights off the owner.
It's like they haven't made their mind up about a single thing, and are just going off knee jerk decisions. It's horrible to see from a company that should have these types of things in check. Or maybe I just expect too much from a multi-billion dollar company that is one of the fore leaders in tech......

primortal said,
you missed
They didn't want to tip their hand. Plus XBoxOne.com was created on 29-Dec-11 so unless Microsoft new their devices names years in advanced this person be them to it. Sadly it looks like a parked site, nothing active so it will most likely go to Microsoft.

Again, Multi-Billion dollar company. They should be securing anything they think will be of use to them down the road. It's not like they don't have the resources to do it. They could easily secure millions of website names and have it not dent a single part of their profits, ever. Instead, they are taking it as lax as possible it seems. Are we to believe they only decided on the "One" name like a month ago?

M_Lyons10 said,

From what I understand, these domains were registered 18 months ago...
.


What is funny is that MS registered XBOXTWO before XBOXONE was registered. Why they did one and not the other is beyond me.

shakey said,
Would think MS would already know to register a site with their upcoming brand name waaaay before they revealed it...... Is it just me, or does MS lately seem to have their head up their ass?

It seems having "their head up their ass" is not a unique trait.

RTFA!

shakey said,

Again, Multi-Billion dollar company. They should be securing anything they think will be of use to them down the road. It's not like they don't have the resources to do it. They could easily secure millions of website names and have it not dent a single part of their profits, ever. Instead, they are taking it as lax as possible it seems. Are we to believe they only decided on the "One" name like a month ago?

Register every possible domain name combination with the word Xbox in it just in case they might need it in future. Really? What would be cool is if ICANN granted them a TLD of .xbox

techbeck said,

What is funny is that MS registered XBOXTWO before XBOXONE was registered. Why they did one and not the other is beyond me.

No, not funny at all. As I said above, XboxTwo.com was registered a couple of months before the 360 was released as a possible alternate name, as it was the second xbox console.

Edited by Ryster, May 24 2013, 3:54pm :

TCLN Ryster said,

No, not funny at all. As I said above, XboxTwo.com was registered a couple of months before the 360 was released as a possible alternate name, as it was the second xbox console.

Oh please, lots of companies resister domain names like this...domain names thta could be confusing with their own products, using their name...etc. Apple has sued a few different companies for using domain names similar to theirs. MS was just dumb in this case.

Edited by techbeck, May 24 2013, 3:46pm :

Hardly. This domain was in use as far back as 2002 (http://web.archive.org/web/200...519/http://www.xboxone.com/) when the Original Xbox was around. Clearly the domain lapsed at some point and was snapped up by the current owner. Wether that be the same as the original owner or a squatter. As we all know, a common tactic by squatters is to buy domains that lapse so they can extort money from the original owner who could've just forgot to renew.

But by all means though, you and TsarNikky continue to spout your anti-MS rhetoric. It is amusing, to a point.

TCLN Ryster said,

But by all means though, you and TsarNikky continue to spout your anti-MS rhetoric. It is amusing, to a point.

Anti MS? I said they were dumb in this instance and if you would actually read comments here instead of replying to a few and spouting off at the mouth, I said that MS probably has a right to this domain name. So if that is being anti MS, it must be backwards day and no one told me.

How is it dumb? If Microsoft goes around registering every possible xbox name website, how will there be fansites?
If every company goes on and register every possible domain name for every single product..... there wont be much domain names left. I guess Microsoft should've also registered every possible windows, win, XP, 7, 8, vista etc.. domain name for the small chance somewhere in the future they will name a product in such a way?... guess no neowin.net then, should be Microsoft's obviously.
Maybe some day in the future they will make a joke new Windows 3.11 (no win8 reference) and call it a neowindows or neowin....

shakey said,

Did you read my "waaaaay" word?
And if it was registered so long ago and used for real reasons, MS is going about this the wrong way and needs to buy the rights off the owner.
It's like they haven't made their mind up about a single thing, and are just going off knee jerk decisions. It's horrible to see from a company that should have these types of things in check. Or maybe I just expect too much from a multi-billion dollar company that is one of the fore leaders in tech......

Why should Microsoft have to pay?
Microsoft trademarked the name XBOX years ago. XBOX ONE is simply a variation of the name. Its already owned.

techbeck said,
Stupid Microsoft. The smart thing would of been to buy those domains before you announced the new XBOX name.

They were registered ~18 months ago.

techbeck said,

And Microsoft registered XBOXTWO.COM before that. So why didnt the register XBOXONE at the same time?
http://whois.domaintools.com/xboxtwo.com

So....dumb for MS not registering XBOXONE at the same time.


RTFA
"Curious folks have always paid attention to Microsoft-registered domains so buying up XboxOne.com for example, would have ousted the name of the new console."

Hambone72 said,

RTFA
"Curious folks have always paid attention to Microsoft-registered domains so buying up XboxOne.com for example, would have ousted the name of the new console."

And read what I said. They bought XBOXTWO 6 years before XBOXONE was registered. If they did XBOXONE at the same time, they wouldnt of ousted jack.

techbeck said,

And Microsoft registered XBOXTWO.COM before that. So why didnt the register XBOXONE at the same time?
http://whois.domaintools.com/xboxtwo.com

So....dumb for MS not registering XBOXONE at the same time.

Errr, no. XboxTwo was registered as a possible alternate, or "known as" name for the 360 before it launched a couple of months afterwards. The original Xbox was just called Xbox. Nobody in the history of the world has ever called the original Xbox, Xbox One, so why would they have registered that name in 2005?

Argument fail.

techbeck said,

And read what I said. They bought XBOXTWO 6 years before XBOXONE was registered. If they did XBOXONE at the same time, they wouldnt of ousted jack.


Oops. I didn't bother to click the link. :-)

Six years ... good point. It was so long ago that it wouldn't have revealed the name.

Certainly though, if they had known that the next gen console was going to be called xboxone, they would have registered it then.

Hambone72 said,

RTFA
"Curious folks have always paid attention to Microsoft-registered domains so buying up XboxOne.com for example, would have ousted the name of the new console."

Except that xboxtwo.com was registred in 2005 so why not xboxone.... I doubt xboxtwo came out as a name for the current XBone

TCLN Ryster said,

Errr, no. XboxTwo was registered as a possible alternate, or "known as" name for the 360 before it launched a couple of months afterwards. The original Xbox was just called Xbox. Nobody in the history of the world has ever called the original Xbox, Xbox One, so why would they have registered that name in 2005?

Argument fail.

Microsoft was dumb. Companies resister domain names like this all the time. MS just missed on and now they are scrambling to get it for themselves now. Why would someone register the domain name 2yrs ago without knowing what the next XBOX would be called. Because they too a gamble and it worked No one would of thought XBOXONE would be called the new name of the next XBOX either.

Edited by techbeck, May 24 2013, 3:31pm :

techbeck said,

Microsoft was dumb. Companies resister domain names like this all the time. MS just missed on and now they are scrambling to get it for themselves now. Why would someone register the domain name 2yrs ago without knowing what the next XBOX would be called. Because they thought ahead and MS didnt. No one would of thought XBOXONE would be called the new name of the next XBOX either.

So, you're advocating that companies should register every possible domain name with the word Xbox in it, just in case they might need it? No wonder the world is broke lol

There's absolutely no evidence that this Brit registered the name because they had any clue the next Xbox would be called Xbox One.

TCLN Ryster said,

So, you're advocating that companies should register every possible domain name with the word Xbox in it, just in case they might need it? No wonder the world is broke lol

No, I am saying companies should register obvious domain names.


There's absolutely no evidence that this Brit registered the name because they had any clue the next Xbox would be called Xbox One.

Never said there was. I said they thought ahead...took a gamble...and it worked.

Again, Microsoft was stupid in this case but I also said above that if they copyrighted the name, then they probably have rights to it. XBOXONE isnt even being used so its obviously a squatter.

I've called the original xbox 'xbox one' in conversation since the day the xbox 360 was announced... I doubt I'm the only one too

techbeck said,

No, I am saying companies should register obvious domain names.

Never said there was. I said they thought ahead...took a gamble...and it worked.

Again, Microsoft was stupid in this case but I also said above that if they copyrighted the name, then they probably have rights to it. XBOXONE isnt even being used so its obviously a squatter.

What makes it obvious? Clearly the hordes of people who were shocked Microsoft chose to call it the Xbox One didn't think it was obvious.

Also, stop professing to know why XboxOne.com was registered by this Brit. You don't.

There's absolutely no evidence indicating why it was registered, certainly none suggesting they "thought ahead" because they thought a future console would be called Xbox One.

TCLN Ryster said,

Also, stop professing to know why XboxOne.com was registered by this Brit. You don't.

There's absolutely no evidence indicating why it was registered, certainly none suggesting they "thought ahead" because they thought a future console would be called Xbox One.

Wow, getting worked up huh? And its called voicing my opinion. And if the domain name isnt even being used and keeps getting re-registered, what else could it be but a squatter.

The britt didnt have to know the name...he took a gamble like many domain squatters do and it payed off. This is nothing new than what has been going on for a long time.

Back then MS had no intention of naming a new Xbox, Xbox One.
Xbox two was a dead given seeing it was prior to the 360's release.

This is a parked domain, like billions of others. Many hobbyists have a lot of parked domains. I myself have ~5 domains i'm not using (I do intent to tho, didn't have time yet, not for the sake of holding it from companies)
But I know dozens of individuals who have hundreds of domains, I know several companies that hold thousands of domains. All for the sake of hoping for something like this, the next popular product name.
Similar to registering domains that have small typos, years ago googel.com was a bullsh*t website. Seems today it redirects to google.com though.
This is a common practice and IMO a very dirty one, a lot of people are trying to make a quick buck since domains are cheap. And people will assume the xboxone website will be xboxone.com, what do you want there, some trap or ads infested website, where you know people will blame Microsoft for not owning the domain themselves...

I personally can't own my national TLD because some d*ck parked it and had to go with EU as soon as EU became available. If I waited too long, I would've have to go for a much, much longer domain. And I cant use .com, .net or other 'popular' ones, BECAUSE THEY ARE PARKED(IE not in use, only redirect to ad infested pages etc).

techbeck said,
..snip..

And amongst the defensiveness, you miss the point once again. This domain was originally registered by somebody as an Xbox related site, it's indisputably right there on Way Back Machine for all to see. There's no evidence either way to suggest that same person does or does not still own the domain now. Just because the current record says it was registered in 2011, doesn't mean that same guy didn't just forget to renew it once, let it expire, and then registered it again.

Besides, most domain squatters like Sedo and the like don't tend to point their domain at GoDaddy. Also, not having a web page on the domain means absolutely nothing at all about if the domain is in use or not. Domains aren't just used to host a website you iknow. Take a look at tcln.com , that my own domain and has been for several years. There's no site on it now (though there used to be, a multinational gaming league I ran), but that doesn't mean a squatter owns it. I use it as the primary domain for my family for email.

All that said, as the domain name does contain a Microsoft trademark, they'll no doubt use that or the "confusingly similar to..." arguments to win the case and claim the domain.

Edited by Ryster, May 24 2013, 10:26pm :

Microsoft owns just short of 100,000 domains "domains@microsoft is associated with about 99,429 domains". If they decided to not pick up a domain, it's free for anyone else to grab. If xboxtwo.com was considered, they should have considered xboxone.com. Or, they could be like Sony, and not buy a new domain for each PlayStation. If someone's looking for info on the new Xbox, I'm pretty sure they'd hit up Google before going directly to "XboxOne.com".

Lone Wanderer Chicken said,
People always do this before and/or after a product launch, so the company launching the product would then pay them even more for the domain.

what he had a Crystal ball and thought, oooh MS will call their new Xbox XboxOne in 2.5years from now, ill go buy that.......(actually he also owned it BEFORE 2011) he must be Marty McFly!

ye or the guy has a ton of parked domains. its not like domain parkers only have 2 or 3 domains. They often have hundreds or thousands. even many hobbyists have dozens or hundreds of parked domains.
Just in the hope a big company like MS wants the domain and has to buy them out. Unfortunally for them, unless they actively use the domain, MS has every right to do so.
Domain parking for the sake of holding the domain name is NOT DONE and the register of that domain can be made undone if that's the case.

If MS would simply buy him out, MS would give in to domain parkers and opens the door for many, many more buyouts. MS is a massive company and uses tons of domains, they are bound to run into domains already registered. And MS has bought out the domain owners if they actually used the domain. But why would they if the domain is unused for the sake of hoping for money.

Mando said,

what he had a Crystal ball and thought, oooh MS will call their new Xbox XboxOne in 2.5years from now, ill go buy that.......(actually he also owned it BEFORE 2011) he must be Marty McFly!

Considering there's nothing on the site, I'm sure they bought the domain to resell later. Not necessarily to MS, but it could have been a gaming site that wanted the name as well. Either way, they didn't buy the domain to do anything Xbox related with it.

The problem is, MS themself make the name "xboxone" SECRET until the reveals.
So, how this dude knew about XBOXONE in 2011 ?

MS must pay huge sums for their own carelessness.
Similar carelessness that cost MS their 'metro' rights.

Torolol said,

MS must pay huge sums for their own carelessness.
Similar carelessness that cost MS their 'metro' rights.

Yes, similar. But here, Microsoft is the one with the pre-existing trademark.

This person will lose their domain name because of their own carelessness. Microsoft owns "Xbox" internationally. Parking XboxOne.com doesn't change that.

How does this work? What if the UK resident who has their domains actually has functional websites on them and uses them for genuine purposes i.e. isn't sitting on the domain names just to get MS to pay him to give them back? Does MS have the right to have the domains taken from said person even if they are using them for a legit reasons or does MS have to try and buy them back off the current owner?

Richard Cousins said,
How does this work? What if the UK resident who has their domains actually has functional websites on them and uses them for genuine purposes i.e. isn't sitting on the domain names just to get MS to pay him to give them back? Does MS have the right to have the domains taken from said person even if they are using them for a legit reasons or does MS have to try and buy them back off the current owner?

You used to be able to argue that it was a legitimate site, for non-trademarked domains, but I think that squatters ruined it for people with lame pretend sites.

The trademark kind of wins now, whoever got there first.

Richard Cousins said,
What if the UK resident who has their domains actually has functional websites on them and uses them for genuine purposes

They don't, these are just parked. Go check them out yourself. However, my guess is that if the person did already have a website up using that name (actually using it, not just a redirect or someone's personal crap page) then MS would have to buy it from them. Having said that, it might be faster and cheaper just to toss the guy a few grand instead of trying to get legal action...as much as I hate the idea of supporting people like that.

I forget who, but one of the major US News networks had this problem a while ago. They came up with a new logo, started using it, then found out a local station somewhere was already using the same logo. They tried to force them to change their logo, but courts ruled the small station had it first, so the big company had to pay them a few million to get them to change it.

Edited by sphbecker, May 24 2013, 3:52pm :

lunamonkey said,

You used to be able to argue that it was a legitimate site, for non-trademarked domains, but I think that squatters ruined it for people with lame pretend sites.

The trademark kind of wins now, whoever got there first.

Yep, just like most things, lazy people after a quick buck ruined it for legitimate site owners...

moloko said,
WOW someone bought this 18 months ago and MS relieved it a few days ago. That is not lazy.

They bought a domain with XBox in the name in hopes of monetizing it in the future. Not actually DOING anything that required work... In other words just being given money. And that is why it is as hard as it is to get a domain now as well.

I would have a different opinion of this person if they had actually invested some time and energy into making a site, buying a domain to park is lazy. lol

Cyborg_X said,
Should have had people waiting to click register the second the name was said during the announcement.

Except the domain was registered 18 months ago. Either way, the presence of a trademark (or fragment thereof) means you will probably have to surrender the domain if asked.

lunamonkey said,

Except the domain was registered 18 months ago. Either way, the presence of a trademark (or fragment thereof) means you will probably have to surrender the domain if asked.


Trademark an product have to go through a process. If those people brought the domain before ms trademark Xbox one then they technically can keep the domain for Xbox original usage.

BGM said,
school boy..

The guys who registered the domain can't predict what the next Xbox called since the original Xbox was being first and Xbox 360 meant to be second? PlayStation is different since they move a number slitely up each year and people already know what Sony are calling it next. Could be the recent launchof HTC one give those pricks some cool ideas of what Xbox might be called. And if they know ms called Xbox one, they would have it posted on reddit to show off their domain.

If it was someone buying the domain to park it and try to sell back to MS, MS can do this.
If there a legit xbox site, Microsoft is flexing its muscle to take it.

People who buy domains just to park them and make money are evil. Not sure how you can see it any other way. And yes, these are just parked, nothing hosted on them.

sphbecker said,
People who buy domains just to park them and make money are evil. Not sure how you can see it any other way. And yes, these are just parked, nothing hosted on them.

Agreed. And you can't just use someone's trademark either...

I see nothing wrong with this.

ITs one of those let me buy it and sell it back to Microsoft things. they knew it was a trademark and they did it anyway. You go to the domain and you get one of those go daddy no site here pages.

Lone Wanderer Chicken said,
Why did Microsoft not register the domain name months in advance
The domain was registered 29 November 2011; months before wouldn't have been good enough.

Lone Wanderer Chicken said,
Why did Microsoft not register the domain name months in advance, unless someone at MS just thought of the name "Xbox One" right before launch?

Try reading the article mate, the main reason is made clear. It's because people tend to watch what domains MS register. Even if the name was available at the time, registering XboxOne.com would have outed the name of the new console before they wanted to reveal it.

no they don't. not if this person bought this domain outright before they announced this a few days ago. But if the person is just parking then that is a valid argument.

techbeck said,
If MS copyrighted the name, then surely they have a right to the domain name.

The domain has been registered long before Xbox One was announced.

pmdci said,

The domain has been registered long before Xbox One was announced.

Obviously. But it is not even being used and if MS has a copyrighted the name, then that changes things?? Not sure about the copyright law here.

the current registered owner has possessed it since November 2011, so unless he had insider info, I don't see why MS should think they have the right to own it. Pay up for it tightwads!

sorry but for once I don't think MS has the right to demand it.

Domain Name: XBOXONE.NET
Registrar: GODADDY.COM, LLC
Whois Server: whois.godaddy.com
Referral URL: http://registrar.godaddy.com
Name Server: NS65.DOMAINCONTROL.COM
Name Server: NS66.DOMAINCONTROL.COM
Status: clientDeleteProhibited
Status: clientRenewProhibited
Status: clientTransferProhibited
Status: clientUpdateProhibited
Updated Date: 29-dec-2011
Creation Date: 29-dec-2011
Expiration Date: 29-dec-2016

*it seems he also renewed it in December 2011, after previously owning it BEFORE 2011 when he renewed his registration.

TBH I think its a bit silly moving away from xbox.com everyone knows this domain and is used to it, it has been the URL for the Original Black Xbox (1st generation) then the 360 ( it didn't change to xbox360.com did it??), why not continue this trend for the 3rd generation of Xbox...........????

Edited by Mando, May 24 2013, 4:57pm :

Mando said,
the current registered owner has possessed it since November 2011, so unless he had insider info, I don't see why MS should think they have the right to own it. Pay up for it tightwads!

Xbox is a trademark...MS still has the right to demand it.

If I go and start registering domains for playstation5.com does that mean Sony now has to pay me to get the domain? Oh but I registered it years in advance...

techbeck said,
If MS copyrighted the name, then surely they have a right to the domain name.

It may fall under eminent domain , however that is a tough legal argument. Its not that I believe big corps should get their way, but c'mon sell it to msft; it just makes more sense

/never owned an Xbox btw.

Lone Wanderer Chicken said,
Why did Microsoft not register the domain name months in advance, unless someone at MS just thought of the name "Xbox One" right before launch?

"Curious folks have always paid attention to Microsoft-registered domains so buying up XboxOne.com for example, would have ousted the name of the new console."

yowanvista said,
And they said that msft wasn't an evil company..

A week ago, the Google fanboys were outraged because Microsoft released an app for WP8 named YouTube. They were upset because Microsoft dared to use the name that Google has registered a domain and trademark for, and used it without permission.

But somebody squats on a domain name (go to the page, it just redirects to the standard GoDaddy page), uses the Xbox name which is trademarked, and the arguments that were used against Microsoft for trademarks just a few days ago has changed, trademark does not apply, and Microsoft is the bad guy.

StephenBratz said,

A week ago, the Google fanboys were outraged because Microsoft released an app for WP8 named YouTube. They were upset because Microsoft dared to use the name that Google has registered a domain and trademark for, and used it without permission.

But somebody squats on a domain name (go to the page, it just redirects to the standard GoDaddy page), uses the Xbox name which is trademarked, and the arguments that were used against Microsoft for trademarks just a few days ago has changed, trademark does not apply, and Microsoft is the bad guy.


And if Google will make their own app and call it YouTube, I am sure Microsoft will pull their app.

And so you know, YouTube existed before Google purchased it.

yowanvista said,
And they said that msft wasn't an evil company..
No they aren't. Someone just buying a domain name hoping to get paid only and not even hosting anything real, should be illegal.

Go to XBOXONE.com or .net and show me something is being sold by the owner.
As you can see its not. What I can see is you're not very up on reality.

techbeck said,

Obviously. But it is not even being used and if MS has a copyrighted the name, then that changes things?? Not sure about the copyright law here.

Let alone the fact that Microsoft has FOR YEARS owned the copyright for XBOX... Including someone else's copyright in a name does not invalidate their copyright claims... LOL

sphbecker said,
People who buy domains just to park them and make money are evil. Not sure how you can see it any other way. And yes, these are just parked, nothing hosted on them.

Well said bro.

sphbecker said,
People who buy domains just to park them and make money are evil. Not sure how you can see it any other way. And yes, these are just parked, nothing hosted on them.

Well said bro. xx

yowanvista said,
And they said that msft wasn't an evil company..

they should have bought the domain before annoucing it. Anyways The domain isn't pointing to anywhere. so the only reason somebody buys a domain without having a site is to sell it for lots of money

yowanvista said,
And they said that msft wasn't an evil company..

Microsoft owns XBOX brand. the only reason they bought the domain is to sell it back to MS for a load of cash. Who is evil now?

techbeck said,
If MS copyrighted the name, then surely they have a right to the domain name.
Surely not! If I bought the domain pineapple.com, and then MS copyrighted and released a device called the Microsoft Pineapple and wanted that domain they shouldn't be able to to just take it when I had it first. They need to pay for it if I wasn't really using it and if I was they could go **** themselves cos I wouldn't give it up. Unless, of course, I'd rather have a lot of money over the domain.

Darrian said,
Surely not! If I bought the domain pineapple.com, and then MS copyrighted and released a device called the Microsoft Pineapple and wanted that domain they shouldn't be able to to just take it when I had it first. They need to pay for it if I wasn't really using it and if I was they could go **** themselves cos I wouldn't give it up. Unless, of course, I'd rather have a lot of money over the domain.

No, but if Microsoft makes up a word, trademarks it, and then you register and park the domain afterward - then they do.

Mando said,

Updated Date: 29-dec-2011
Creation Date: 29-dec-2011
Expiration Date: 29-dec-2016

Interesting fact I found that pro-Microsoft sites:
- Deliberately omited that date information
- Deliberately omited that MS themself who made 'xboxone' name secret until the reveals.
- Forgot that MS makes similar 'mistakes' with 'metro' names.

Torolol said,

Interesting fact I found that pro-Microsoft sites:
- Deliberately omited that date information
- Deliberately omited that MS themself who made 'xboxone' name secret until the reveals.
- Forgot that MS makes similar 'mistakes' with 'metro' names.

Jesus people. Microsoft owns the trademark to xbox. If someone was actively using the site its a different matter. If he wasn't, he's just parking it and its perfectly legal for MS to take control of it.

It's like if I registered playstation5.com. Has it been released yet? Nope. So does that mean Sony now has to pay me for it when the playstation 5 comes out? Oh but but I have no idea that sony was planning to release a 5th playstation called PS5....

techbeck said,
If MS copyrighted the name, then surely they have a right to the domain name.

the domains were registered in 2011, Microsoft only JUST released the XBOX One a couple of days ago.

Can't see how Microsoft has any sort of case.

Maybe the domain owners can however sue Microsoft for using THEIR domain name for the new xbox!

Memnochxx said,

No, but if Microsoft makes up a word, trademarks it, and then you register and park the domain afterward - then they do.
That's not what happened here. Sure, they have the rights to "xbox," but there's no way this guy could have known that they were going to make a console down the road with "One" appended to it. Probably the domain was originally intended for 1st gen xbox news/comments/etc.

Darrian said,
That's not what happened here. Sure, they have the rights to "xbox," but there's no way this guy could have known that they were going to make a console down the road with "One" appended to it. Probably the domain was originally intended for 1st gen xbox news/comments/etc.

Originally intended for and then never used? Hence it becomes domain parking and its perfectly legal and proper for anyone to claim a domain that's unused.

-Razorfold said,

Originally intended for and then never used? Hence it becomes domain parking and its perfectly legal and proper for anyone to claim a domain that's unused.

Never used? People really need to learn how to use the internet and do research. The internet archive "time machine" dates the site back to November 15th, 2002. The site had plenty of content, with most of it being news for the Xbox 1 (the first console), and a bit of news on the at the moment upcoming Xbox 360. Don't believe me? Check it out: http://web.archive.org/web/201...7201840/http://xboxone.com/

Obviously the site doesn't quite look the same. Maybe the guy doesn't have time to host it anymore because of issues in his life. Does that mean Microsoft can take it from him since he doesn't have enough time to host it?

-Razorfold said,

Originally intended for and then never used? Hence it becomes domain parking and its perfectly legal and proper for anyone to claim a domain that's unused.

Never used? People really need to learn how to use the internet and do research. The internet archive "time machine" dates the site back to November 15th, 2002. The site had plenty of content, with most of it being news for the Xbox 1 (the first console), and a bit of news on the at the moment upcoming Xbox 360. Don't believe me? Check it out: http://web.archive.org/web/201...7201840/http://xboxone.com/

Obviously the site doesn't quite look the same. Maybe the guy doesn't have time to host it anymore because of issues in his life. Does that mean Microsoft can take it from him since he doesn't have enough time to host it?

Also, sorry for the double post. The page gave me an error, and when I refreshed, the message wasn't there. After submitting it a second time, they both showed up.