Microsoft: Four million Windows 8 upgrades so far

Microsoft CEO Steve Ballmer has confirmed here at the BUILD 2012 developer keynote that since Friday, the official launch of Windows 8, the company has already sold four million Windows 8 software upgrades.

That's certainly not a bad start for Windows 8 but at the same time, most people will likely still stick with their current Windows OS and wait to buy a new PC to get Windows 8. On that front, Ballmer says that sales of Windows 8 products are good so far.

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Gonna be a blood bath lol

GJ M$ on splitting up the windows users so they can go at each others throats !

Revolting Cheerleader Fanboi's desperately trying to warp reality and facts and spin everything in their (Windows 8's) favor as M$ laughs at all the unpaid employees teaching the haters a lesson lol
People that go around acting like that will loose respect in a hurry.
If people are not allowed to hate windows 8 for some *reasonable reasons then i think i know who the idiots are..

Wonder how many upgrades are really... many people have buy upgrade at 15 euros ( cheating the promo code ) and installed as new system to replace their pirated one. Some have used only the free MC pack to do it.

Cool,

Been running the Consumer Preview followed by my Dreamspark copy on my laptop for the past 6 months or so and have to say it's a great OS. Now bought 2 copies for my Desktop and Laptop, and my Desktop boots in about 5 seconds which is insane. Granted it's a gaming PC, with an SSD and quite powerful hardware, but still that's a lot faster than win7.

All the people complaining about win8 saying it will fail i have to wonder if they have actually used it. There are a few learning curves but not that many really.

The start menu (obviously the bigest change) though I personally don't miss the old one in from Win7, i have to say that other than the slightly better search functionality of the start screen in win8, I have not really found a great use for it as yet.

I dont get why people are arguing about this issue. Whatever camp you are, I think if Microsoft can sell even half of the number in six months as that of Windows7 (which is very very conservative figure). It will still ensure that Microsoft is not sinking in the future combats of Apple Vs Google vs Microsoft.
We need to understand why Microsoft has taken some decisions which had put them on the sword of their critics (e.g., Metro, Start Menu , Window Store) , just because they want to use Windows Power to get into consumers Tablet and Mobile domain where they were failing and only Windows/Office and somewhat XBox were the only brands which can rescue them. Therefore, they decided to make sure they brought people into that eco system and ensure people get used to of this and hence drive the market adoptation towards their Tablet and Mobile Systems.
Now consider the above strategy and think if they can sell around 200/300 million devices which has Windows Store inside it. This will mean not a single developer or organisation can ignore the Windows/WP at all. Ultimately bringing Microsoft into the game with more force.
This is big risk because if it does not click they would have already damaged their premier brands but to kick in , they have to "All In".
Therefore , these numbers are really promising start and i would expect with a big holiday period means they would be hoping for BIG.

When millions of these early adopters want to go back to Windows-7; can they get their money back? The real test is "how many of these early adopters remain with Windows-8 AND use it in a productive manner?"

TsarNikky said,
When millions of these early adopters want to go back to Windows-7; can they get their money back? The real test is "how many of these early adopters remain with Windows-8 AND use it in a productive manner?"
The joke is on you. Windows 8 multitasking is the best multitasking Windows has had period. I can open any Metro App and snap it next to the Desktop app.

Totalaero said,
I can open any Metro App and snap it next to the Desktop app.

Which anyone with any Windows since NT has been able to do without problems.

Why would anyone WANT to run the crappy little "Metro" applications? So far they are all awful.

We need actual numbers. In the past, early sales figures were only given in press releases as percentages compared to the previous release. Windows Vista sold 60% less in the first week than Windows XP. Windows 7 sold 234% more than Vista in its first week. None of the releases give hard numbers.

The fact that they have resorted to the actual number of copies sold does not sound like a good sign to me, absent hard numbers for the others.

Also, how many of those upgrades were the ones exercised by people who just bought new computers?

Voice of Buddy Christ said,
We need actual numbers. In the past, early sales figures were only given in press releases as percentages compared to the previous release. Windows Vista sold 60% less in the first week than Windows XP. Windows 7 sold 234% more than Vista in its first week. None of the releases give hard numbers.

The fact that they have resorted to the actual number of copies sold does not sound like a good sign to me, absent hard numbers for the others.

Also, how many of those upgrades were the ones exercised by people who just bought new computers?

Ballmer did say that Win8 sold more in the same period of time since its launch, compared to Win7.

I'd like to see the statistics on how many people have bought Windows 8, tried it, then switched back to Windows 7. I'd be one of those to be included in that statistic. I tried it for a few days and gave it every chance, but I can see no compelling reason to continue with it, totally sucks in my opinion. By the way, it is ok for me to have my own opinion to all the MS fanboys.

hamslammer said,
I'd like to see the statistics on how many people have bought Windows 8, tried it, then switched back to Windows 7. I'd be one of those to be included in that statistic. I tried it for a few days and gave it every chance, but I can see no compelling reason to continue with it, totally sucks in my opinion. By the way, it is ok for me to have my own opinion to all the MS fanboys.

no your not allowed or you'll get the usual your doing it wrong apple style excuse.
And if you don't like windows 8 your considered to be a retard.

I have more respect for those that live and let live than the proactive fanboi trolls making Windows 8 some kind of personal campaign.
which just shows their weakness anyway because if they have to be so vocal to us super small minority of crazy retard "haters" then what does that tell you lol
..it means they know they are wrong

The thing is that you can also do upgrade with a pirated copy of windows 7 or xp so it is huge and cheap offer for someone to migrate to retail copy.

buksnatata said,
The thing is that you can also do upgrade with a pirated copy of windows 7 or xp so it is huge and cheap offer for someone to migrate to retail copy.

Even for pirates, Windows 8 is "2Legit2Quit".

I guess haters will always hate

4m copies is not to bad it it's only upgrades, add to that all the new pc's sold and that's a good start for MS

Stoffel said,
I guess haters will always hate

4m copies is not to bad it it's only upgrades, add to that all the new pc's sold and that's a good start for MS

or ignore people like you and the guy above you..

most of us "haters" have managed to carry on with life with out Win 8 so far lol

I am Not PCyr said,

or ignore people like you and the guy above you..

most of us "haters" have managed to carry on with life with out Win 8 so far lol

You have? Could've fooled me by all the idiotic posting you make in Windows 8 related topics.

People wanted numbers, MS gives out a number and the Windows 8 haters still try to knock it, on cuz it's so cheap, of course it sells! Nice spin, when they say they sold, I dunno, 100 million licenses later on I wonder what the excuse will be then?

Seriously, you don't like it, fine, but if it sells it sells so that's that.

GP007 said,
People wanted numbers, MS gives out a number and the Windows 8 haters still try to knock it, on cuz it's so cheap, of course it sells! Nice spin, when they say they sold, I dunno, 100 million licenses later on I wonder what the excuse will be then?

Seriously, you don't like it, fine, but if it sells it sells so that's that.


This. It's as if the price was announced on the launch date and that they have no idea that the upgrade will be cheap. It was the same "It'll be a failure" even after the upgrade price was announced. Now, "Hey, it will sell. It's dirt cheap"

4 million in what..4 days? It took Apple from July 25th to September 12th (49 days) to sell 7 million Mountain Lion upgrades.

At this rate, it will take Microsoft 42 less days to do the same feat. If it continues at this rate, it'll have sold 7 times as many copies in that same time span.

In the end, no one has a choice really. After few years, you've got to "upgrade". Good if you like being a puppet to Msft.

MsftGaurav said,
In the end, no one has a choice really. After few years, you've got to "upgrade". Good if you like being a puppet to Msft.
Linux?

MsftGaurav said,
In the end, no one has a choice really. After few years, you've got to "upgrade". Good if you like being a puppet to Msft.
No one forces anyone to upgrade. You upgrade when you want to, or you switch to Apple or Linux or some other OS.

MsftGaurav said,
In the end, no one has a choice really. After few years, you've got to "upgrade". Good if you like being a puppet to Msft.

yup and you will get harassed to no end if you don't in places like this.
and then if you point it out they will h arras you anyway lol

FYI, sales done under volume agreements such as Select contracts, Enterprise Agreements or TAP count as upgrade sales (there are no full licences under volume agreements), so you can bet that a good chunk of these 4 milion have in fact gone to enterprise customers, some of which are required to upgrade (especially TAP and EA).

Arkos Reed said,
FYI, sales done under volume agreements such as Select contracts, Enterprise Agreements or TAP count as upgrade sales (there are no full licences under volume agreements), so you can bet that a good chunk of these 4 milion have in fact gone to enterprise customers, some of which are required to upgrade (especially TAP and EA).

No one is required to upgrade and those licenses probably aren't figured into the 4 million licenses here..

Arkos Reed said,
FYI, sales done under volume agreements such as Select contracts, Enterprise Agreements or TAP count as upgrade sales (there are no full licences under volume agreements), so you can bet that a good chunk of these 4 milion have in fact gone to enterprise customers, some of which are required to upgrade (especially TAP and EA).
If that was the case, all VL agreements with SA would have counted already. Since there are far more than 4 million seats covered under SA worldwide, this isn't likely to be true.

cluberti said,
If that was the case, all VL agreements with SA would have counted already. Since there are far more than 4 million seats covered under SA worldwide, this isn't likely to be true.

There's is no requirement to upgrade under Select/SA, however TAP and EA do, hence the "some" in my statement

Dont compare with Windows7 this new Windows as a new commercial policy, not comparable to none of the previous.

They are actually offering Windows 8 Pro for 30€ for every user, even if youv been using a pirated copy you can upgrade and get a new license of your own, and make a fresh start.

I bought Windows 8 Pro upgrade not because its better, just because its cheap and will make a clean upgrade of a more secure and updated OS.

So yes, windows 8 will sell but not by its features, its all about the price guys, dont make analysis with these numbers.

grik said,
Dont compare with Windows7 this new Windows as a new commercial policy, not comparable to none of the previous.

They are actually offering Windows 8 Pro for 30€ for every user, even if youv been using a pirated copy you can upgrade and get a new license of your own, and make a fresh start.

just because its cheap and will make a clean upgrade of a more secure and updated OS.

We're two

Apple tells us its all a percentages game, its not looking good MS. I hate to break it to you this way but your uptake is way lower than Apple, your product is doing bad

/s

Lol. I'll keep Ubuntu as my personal favourite. Ubuntu 13.04 is going to be an excellent release. New font, new installer, new icons (they hired the faenza creator),new wallpaper(yes it gets one every six months with new upgrades), RAM optimisations in terms of unity, steam coming to linux with better performance than windows, an Ubuntu SDK; on the kernel side which should be releasing alongside this release includes newer drivers etc, and finally Nvidia etc starting to take linux seriously now that steam is coming

zikalify said,
Lol. I'll keep Ubuntu as my personal favourite. Ubuntu 13.04 is going to be an excellent release. New font, new installer, new icons (they hired the faenza creator),new wallpaper(yes it gets one every six months with new upgrades), RAM optimisations in terms of unity, steam coming to linux with better performance than windows, an Ubuntu SDK; on the kernel side which should be releasing alongside this release includes newer drivers etc, and finally Nvidia etc starting to take linux seriously now that steam is coming

Are you being sarcastic or serious?

A new font installer? Seriously?

RAM optimizations? You mean so Linux once again can run a GUI desktop environment without requiring more RAM than Windows 7, as Ubuntu does today?

Steam and their wonderful OpenGL and ATI/NVidia drivers - that are still rather sad as the drivers alone have to bypass portions of Linux and the graphical system just to offer marginally ok performance for gaming.

I hope you are joking, if not, you need to spend time getting out of the Linux rules bubble. Go read Inside NT or Windows Internals. You might be surprised how sad Linux and other OS kernels and models are in comparison.

Yea but how many people are actually using W8. I bought an upgrade since I got a discount but waiting to install it. That and new pcs will be coming with w8 so curious on how that brakes down.

As much as I love Windows and always upgraded when a new release hit, I'll stay away from this one. Windows 7 is serving me well just as Windows XP did before upgrading to Vista.

Scar said,
As much as I love Windows and always upgraded when a new release hit, I'll stay away from this one. Windows 7 is serving me well just as Windows XP did before upgrading to Vista.

Upgraded my Lenovo laptop yesterday from Windows 7. Wow what a breath of fresh air. Startup and resuming from hibernate used to take ages. Now it's done in few seconds. And I'm still on a 5400 rpm HDD. I must say I'm impressed with the performance.

Scar said,
As much as I love Windows and always upgraded when a new release hit, I'll stay away from this one. Windows 7 is serving me well just as Windows XP did before upgrading to Vista.

I have a couple of systems that I debated on moving to Windows 8 as well because they ran so well and seemed to be fulfilling their purpose. I went ahead with the transition and there have been so small things and circumstances that came up that I was thankful I didn't stay stick with Windows 7.

Just the performance gains alone are worth the upgrade, even if you don't mess with Metro.

I also will bet that if anyone tries a few Windows 8 Apps, they will miss them if they are stuck at a Windows 7 system. The built in social media integration is like WP7 and brilliant, and when you add up the Netflix and Hulu type Apps, even the oldest donkey PC becomes a robust entertainment system.

(And this includes old Netbooks that couldn't even do full screen video from Netflix or Hulu without stuttering running WinXP or Win7, that now can even do HD video and is flawless.)

Do a Complete Restore backup of Windows 7, and try it. You can always restore the system from the backup too easily if you truly don't like the experience.

thenetavenger said,

I have a couple of systems that I debated on moving to Windows 8 as well because they ran so well and seemed to be fulfilling their purpose. I went ahead with the transition and there have been so small things and circumstances that came up that I was thankful I didn't stay stick with Windows 7.

Just the performance gains alone are worth the upgrade, even if you don't mess with Metro.

I also will bet that if anyone tries a few Windows 8 Apps, they will miss them if they are stuck at a Windows 7 system. The built in social media integration is like WP7 and brilliant, and when you add up the Netflix and Hulu type Apps, even the oldest donkey PC becomes a robust entertainment system.

(And this includes old Netbooks that couldn't even do full screen video from Netflix or Hulu without stuttering running WinXP or Win7, that now can even do HD video and is flawless.)

Do a Complete Restore backup of Windows 7, and try it. You can always restore the system from the backup too easily if you truly don't like the experience.

Thanks a lot for your post. I am actually tempted to give it a try now and hopefully will soon. Will let you know how it goes!

Upgrade is 30$. Anybody who thought it would not sell need a reality check. The earth call people who compare 100+$ past OSes with a 30$ upgrade.

It's far less expensive than previous copies of windows. People will buy it. The store is where MS will make the money if everything works according to the plan.

CSharp. said,
Compares to ~3 million copies of Mountain Lion that were sold in the first four days it was available.

This is a more direct comparison considering the pricing incentive lines up more tightly with Apple's upgrade pricing.

Seketh said,
@still1: Are you delusional or in denial about the launch sucess of Windows 8?

He's a hater, always has been, always will be. Just take what he says with a pinch of salt.

By the way, the reply button is up there ----------------------------------------------------------------- /\

Studio384 said,
4 million upgrades. That's without normal installations, right?

I believe he said that is only average consumers upgrading from XP/Vista/7. He said there were also millions of enterprise upgrades/installations as well.

4 million in 4 days and its considered a success? Windows 7 sold 670 Million in 3 years which comes close to 0.67-0.7 million every day. windows 8 is new product and it should sell way more on launch day than 1 million a day. all those people who updated are early enthuisiast

still1 said,
4 million in 4 days and its considered a success? Windows 7 sold 670 Million in 3 years which comes close to 0.67-0.7 million every day. windows 8 is new product and it should sell way more on launch day than 1 million a day. all those people who updated are early enthuisiast

So Windows 7 sold 670 million upgrades?

If you want comparisons then you'll need like for like - i.e. upgrade numbers for the first four day of Windows 7 launch - you can't simply put down the total licences shipped regardless of their install.

still1 said,
4 million in 4 days and its considered a success? Windows 7 sold 670 Million in 3 years which comes close to 0.67-0.7 million every day. windows 8 is new product and it should sell way more on launch day than 1 million a day. all those people who updated are early enthuisiast

A lot of sales come from large business orders which aren't going to happen at launch.

still1 said,
4 million in 4 days and its considered a success? Windows 7 sold 670 Million in 3 years which comes close to 0.67-0.7 million every day. windows 8 is new product and it should sell way more on launch day than 1 million a day. all those people who updated are early enthuisiast

Well, 1 million licenses per day is a success. If they keep up the sales, in 6 months they'll have sold 80% more copies than Windows 7 in the same period.

Also, these 4 million is only counting upgrades, no new licenses, PCs or tablets, so, I can say with confidence that they are selling more that this number.

dangel said,

So Windows 7 sold 670 million upgrades?

If you want comparisons then you'll need like for like - i.e. upgrade numbers for the first four day of Windows 7 launch - you can't simply put down the total licences shipped regardless of their install.

If you want like for like, then look at the pricing. It's so cheap, why wouldn't someone buy it? When you charge over $100 for it, then people think a bit more.

farmeunit said,
If you want like for like, then look at the pricing. It's so cheap, why wouldn't someone buy it? When you charge over $100 for it, then people think a bit more.

I got W7 for 50€ and that was the full retail version. Also relatively cheap OEM versions later on, don't know anyone that payed the full price. W8 is still cheaper but MS gets more money if people buy the upgrades directly from them and not via retailers so it should even out.

still1 said,
4 million in 4 days and its considered a success? Windows 7 sold 670 Million in 3 years which comes close to 0.67-0.7 million every day. windows 8 is new product and it should sell way more on launch day than 1 million a day. all those people who updated are early enthuisiast

Must hurt that the OS that you love to hate, and tell us every chance you get that you hate, has more users in 4 days than your favorite OS has, Linux.

nohone said,

Must hurt that the OS that you love to hate, and tell us every chance you get that you hate, has more users in 4 days than your favorite OS has, Linux.


I started using windows 8 right when DP released and then CP and still use W8 RTM from MSDN. does it hurt when i try to put the facts?

chAos972 said,

A lot of sales come from large business orders which aren't going to happen at launch.


didnt you miss the article about how majority of business are going to skip w8

still1 said,

I started using windows 8 right when DP released and then CP and still use W8 RTM from MSDN. does it hurt when i try to put the facts?

Personal opinion != facts. You don't like Win8, that is fine, not everyone will like it. Just like many, many more people don't like Linux.

still1 said,
4 million in 4 days and its considered a success? Windows 7 sold 670 Million in 3 years which comes close to 0.67-0.7 million every day. windows 8 is new product and it should sell way more on launch day than 1 million a day. all those people who updated are early enthuisiast

Perhaps.
Bear in mind this is only upgrade numbers.
There will be new hardware/OEM/Retail sales to add to this as well.

nohone said,

Personal opinion != facts. You don't like Win8, that is fine, not everyone will like it. Just like many, many more people don't like Linux.


4 million sold in 4 days is not personal opinion. its a fact.

still1 said,

4 million sold in 4 days is not personal opinion. its a fact.

Other than it being 4 million **updates** (not boxed versions sold off store shelves, new computers, etc.) I am not disputing that. What I am saying is personal opinion is your dislike of Win8.

still1 said,

didnt you miss the article about how majority of business are going to skip w8
We'll see. Windows 8 isn't likely to be adopted in large numbers by businesses right away, as migrations are expensive and they've likely just finished up, or are currently finishing, their Windows 7 migrations. However, all of the appcompat work and infrastructure changes put in place to support Windows 7 should transition over to Windows 8 fairly cleanly, making this upgrade less painful and less expensive (especially given the hardware requirements don't really change).

With RT, Windows To Go, and an OS that runs much better on smaller hardware footprints and even ARM devices, Windows 8 does have inroads into the corporate environment to start. I don't see Windows 8 being skipped en masse like Vista was, especially as most larger Microsoft shops will have what's called "Software Assurance" already on their volume licensing agreement, meaning they pay for "Windows" (for example), not a specific version. Upgrading the OS itself costs them nothing, as they're paying for the rights to do so all the time.

still1 said,

didnt you miss the article about how majority of business are going to skip w8

lol you are so full of sh*t, I have seen plenty of business wanting to ditch the bulky laptop in exchange for a Windows RT Tablet.

still1 said,
do you have a source for that?

Yes I have Invoices and quotes.

still1 said,

oh yeah?? where?? all enterprise is doing is moving to ipad.. http://www.neowin.net/news/are...-planning-to-skip-windows-8

Don't let your lack of industry exposure (and lack of experience) cloud your vision, not all companies were interviewed therefore your statement above is just typical bs, yes companies are buying iPads, but I think you will find that they are not just after iPads, they are after tablets and the portability and cloud services they link into, until now iPads were the the only choice for many.

But now a tablet with Win8 Pro is going to come out with the ability to fully integrate with Active Directory and companies group policies, iPad has what? Active Sync.... lol thats all.

Toysoldier said,

Yes I have Invoices and quotes.

Don't let your lack of industry exposure (and lack of experience) cloud your vision, not all companies were interviewed therefore your statement above is just typical bs, yes companies are buying iPads, but I think you will find that they are not just after iPads, they are after tablets and the portability and cloud services they link into, until now iPads were the the only choice for many.

But now a tablet with Win8 Pro is going to come out with the ability to fully integrate with Active Directory and companies group policies, iPad has what? Active Sync.... lol thats all.


So it ok with your lack of industry exposure (and lack of experience) cloud your vision BS?

cluberti said,
We'll see. Windows 8 isn't likely to be adopted in large numbers by businesses right away, as migrations are expensive and they've likely just finished up, or are currently finishing, their Windows 7 migrations. However, all of the appcompat work and infrastructure changes put in place to support Windows 7 should transition over to Windows 8 fairly cleanly, making this upgrade less painful and less expensive (especially given the hardware requirements don't really change).

With RT, Windows To Go, and an OS that runs much better on smaller hardware footprints and even ARM devices, Windows 8 does have inroads into the corporate environment to start. I don't see Windows 8 being skipped en masse like Vista was, especially as most larger Microsoft shops will have what's called "Software Assurance" already on their volume licensing agreement, meaning they pay for "Windows" (for example), not a specific version. Upgrading the OS itself costs them nothing, as they're paying for the rights to do so all the time.

That's precisely the point.

I expect business, and especially enterprise, usage to lag, for the very simple reason that it ALWAYS lags; if anything, the more seats/licenses a business has, the greater the lag. Windows 8 is very much NOT a business-driven OS - for it to blow the doors off the upgrade path like this - in the teeth of Sandy - is doubtless a rude surprise for the detractors.

still1 said,
4 million in 4 days and its considered a success? Windows 7 sold 670 Million in 3 years which comes close to 0.67-0.7 million every day. windows 8 is new product and it should sell way more on launch day than 1 million a day. all those people who updated are early enthuisiast

This is just upgrades.

You can't use this number as a comparison, as the Win7 numbers include OEM sales, VL sales, etc.

cluberti said,
We'll see. Windows 8 isn't likely to be adopted in large numbers by businesses right away, as migrations are expensive and they've likely just finished up, or are currently finishing, their Windows 7 migrations. However, all of the appcompat work and infrastructure changes put in place to support Windows 7 should transition over to Windows 8 fairly cleanly, making this upgrade less painful and less expensive (especially given the hardware requirements don't really change).

With RT, Windows To Go, and an OS that runs much better on smaller hardware footprints and even ARM devices, Windows 8 does have inroads into the corporate environment to start. I don't see Windows 8 being skipped en masse like Vista was, especially as most larger Microsoft shops will have what's called "Software Assurance" already on their volume licensing agreement, meaning they pay for "Windows" (for example), not a specific version. Upgrading the OS itself costs them nothing, as they're paying for the rights to do so all the time.


The word coming from the folks in our company (major aerospace company) is a very resounding NO to Windows 8. We'll stay with upgrading to Windows 7, but Windows 8 is already being declared dead on arrival... even new machines with it on it will have Windows 7 installed in its place.

It'd be interesting to see how many copies Windows 8 sells in 6 months and a year, and compare that to Windows 7. I still think Windows 7 is going to have more sales at the same point in time. These sales are just from early adopters/PC buyers (or recent PC buyers upgrading through the offer).

tsupersonic said,
It'd be interesting to see how many copies Windows 8 sells in 6 months and a year, and compare that to Windows 7. I still think Windows 7 is going to have more sales at the same point in time. These sales are just from early adopters/PC buyers (or recent PC buyers upgrading through the offer).

Sorry but your theory doesn't hold up. It's already been announced that Windows 8 has sold more in the same period than Windows 7 did in the same period after launch.

tsupersonic said,
It'd be interesting to see how many copies Windows 8 sells in 6 months and a year, and compare that to Windows 7. I still think Windows 7 is going to have more sales at the same point in time. These sales are just from early adopters/PC buyers (or recent PC buyers upgrading through the offer).

Its diferent, Windows 8 as a new commercial policy, i just bought my upgrade license just to have a new one, not because i will get anything better of it.

30€ for Windows 8 Pro is the right price. Money talks and this will sell like nothing like today.

TCLN Ryster said,

Sorry but your theory doesn't hold up. It's already been announced that Windows 8 has sold more in the same period than Windows 7 did in the same period after launch.

And you do realize it just launched! I want to see sales figures for both OS's in 6 months/1 year, etc. You completely missed the point of my post, nice try.

TCLN Ryster said,

Sorry but your theory doesn't hold up. It's already been announced that Windows 8 has sold more in the same period than Windows 7 did in the same period after launch.

ya and i bet we can check the numbers right ?
Windows 7 Tablet vs Windows 8 Tablet etc ?

Sorry but YOUR the one with teh flawed logic pal lol

I am Not PCyr said,

ya and i bet we can check the numbers right ?
Windows 7 Tablet vs Windows 8 Tablet etc ?

Sorry but YOUR the one with teh flawed logic pal lol

You're*, the*.

Seriously, stop posting before you make yourself look like a bigger idiot than you already have.

That's a hell of a start and certainly something that should bring a smile to developers eyes! At the current pricing of 39.99 or 14.99 (whichever route you go) its worth it.

Amazing that Akamai & Microsoft have kept up with the traffic so well, that's a hell of a lot of 2.5gb iso's to stream! and I got a full 35mbit on mine @ home

spudtrooper said,
That's a hell of a start and certainly something that should bring a smile to developers eyes! At the current pricing of 39.99 or 14.99 (whichever route you go) its worth it.

Indeed. A lot of developers were sceptical of the new platform, but they already have a user base of over 4 million devices to target. They'd now be extremely stupid not to develop for the platform.

Other factors making it a no-brainer are the fact that your apps work seamlessly on tablets, and with only a little bit of effort can be easily ported to Windows Phone 8.

Winner

hell of a start ?

compared to what ?
An OS that was designed for desktops vs one that was designed to fit on anything and everything.
I'm sure the never ending sales figures we are all going to be hearing about for ages will be oh so accurate lol
Cause i have no doubt a windows 8 sale will be counted in the stats even if it is for a surface tablet or something..
Does Apple consider their desktop sales figures includes Ipads or Iphones when they publish their DESKTOP computer sales figures ?

windows 7 sold 100 million copies total in 6 months

windows 8 sold 4 million upgrades only in 4 days.

LOL at the delusional people who kept saying nobody wants windows 8.

Death to the desktop. Go Metro

vcfan said,
windows 7 sold 100 million copies total in 6 months

windows 8 sold 4 million upgrades only in 4 days.

LOL at the delusional people who kept saying nobody wants windows 8.

Death to the desktop. Go Metro

That's twice as many copies of Windows sold by day.

vcfan said,
windows 7 sold 100 million copies total in 6 months

windows 8 sold 4 million upgrades only in 4 days.

LOL at the delusional people who kept saying nobody wants windows 8.

Death to the desktop. Go Metro

You always get the most sales in the first week. It will slow down. The fact is, if it was still priced over $100 it wouldn't sell as good either. A lot of variables and it's really apple to oranges.

Fritzly said,

At 1/3 of the price of what W7 was sold though.....

W7 has no store, so no ongoing revenue stream once the sale is complete. Selling Win8 at a lower price and then having devs give them a cut of anything sold through the store is going to make up for those cost differences (and then some), or at least is very, very likely to do so.

farmeunit said,

You always get the most sales in the first week. It will slow down. The fact is, if it was still priced over $100 it wouldn't sell as good either. A lot of variables and it's really apple to oranges.

Four million upgrades in less than a week - just in the US - while the tech-heavy Northeast was under the gun of Sandy? How many retailers didn't open *at all* in the Northeast and mid-Atlantic due to Sandy? (MicroCenter Rockville, MD/Fairfax, VA didn't open either Monday or today - the same was likely true throughout the rest of the two regions; that's one third of MicroCenter's retail base out of commission.) The low upgrade price has diddly to do with the Windows 8 App Store.

Not "death to the desktop" - but definitely "go 8"!

PGHammer said,

The low upgrade price has diddly to do with the Windows 8 App Store

We are all entitled to our opinions........

vcfan said,
LOL at the delusional people who kept saying nobody wants windows 8.

Death to the desktop. Go Metro


Actually, I upgraded, and the first thing I killed was Metro/Modern/Microsoft UI. The desktop is where you do real work, and it's what should have been first to boot up to on a real PC (I won't buy a tablet, I don't like trying to use toys for real work).

vcfan said,

Death to the desktop. Go Metro

Ya I'll be picking up my M$ Windows 8 DVD when I'm at the store
buying some new "Will & Grace" or "Queer Eye For The Straight Guy" DVD's.
Their lucky they are morons and we're forced to stop using a bad name lol
And your precious Metro garbage app's will make old school app's as obsolete as every other language that came out after c/c++ LOL

what time did you "set it" for ?
your alarm clock should be goin' off soon sweat heart lol

Nice to see a shift in MS approach. Even pirated copies of Windows7 can be upgraded for 40$ (iv tested myself) and you get a very own brand new Windows 8 key. Its a fair price for common home Windows users, finally a realistic price for an upgrade.

Most people will buy Windows for the first time with this new realistic philosophy, its fantastic to see this new Microsoft rising again for the battle.

grik said,
Nice to see a shift in MS approach. Even pirated copies of Windows7 can be upgraded for 40$ (iv tested myself) and you get a very own brand new Windows 8 key. Its a fair price for common home Windows users, finally a realistic price for an upgrade.

Most people will buy Windows for the first time with this new realistic philosophy, its fantastic to see this new Microsoft rising again for the battle.

Actually, one can upgrade a pirated copy of Windows 7 to Windows 8 for $15. I have tested this myself. First copy of Windows purchased since the early 2000's.

It's not legal to upgrade a pirated copy anyway. You might be able to do it but your Windows 8 copy wont be legal.

LaP said,
It's not legal to upgrade a pirated copy anyway. You might be able to do it but your Windows 8 copy wont be legal.

Of course it is, they would easily know that as a common pirated key and would block it.

Its simply the new MS method of getting new legal windows home users. Its quiet stupid that they didnt do this before. And yes you get a new windows 8 key all new not the same as anyone.
So yes its legal

nvllsvm said,

Actually, one can upgrade a pirated copy of Windows 7 to Windows 8 for $15. I have tested this myself. First copy of Windows purchased since the early 2000's.

This.

For the first time ever... all my Windows licenses are legit. I have 4 of them.

Its a fair price for common home Windows users, finally a realistic price for an upgrade.

Eh? Why do people seem to think Windows is expensive?

A retail copy of Win 7 home premium costs $130 (100 for an OEM one) and it's a piece of software you'll use almost every single day for like 2 years. Is 129 really that much money? Compared to the price of other software, it's so so much cheaper. Games cost $60 and they last you what, a week or a month at max?

-Razorfold said,

Eh? Why do people seem to think Windows is expensive?

A retail copy of Win 7 home premium costs $130 (100 for an OEM one) and it's a piece of software you'll use almost every single day for like 2 years. Is 129 really that much money? Compared to the price of other software, it's so so much cheaper. Games cost $60 and they last you what, a week or a month at max?

I suspect people compare the cost of Windows to the cost of a PC. I can appreciate why a user might find it hard to justify a $130 copy of Windows when the new computer can be order for around $300±10%. I think most people see Windows as a background item that doesn't really "do anything" - they don't realize that their computer would be useless without it. It's easy to point out excel and the ability to edit spreadsheets or an ssd drive and say "look how fast this makes it" - but Windows is just tooling about in the background without drawing attention to itself. In a lot of ways Windows is like the plumbing or heating: nobody cares about it unless you take it away.

nvllsvm said,

Actually, one can upgrade a pirated copy of Windows 7 to Windows 8 for $15. I have tested this myself. First copy of Windows purchased since the early 2000's.


They've fixed the bug. Seems many people took advantage of it .

Now we know why there are 4 millions of copies sold.

grik said,
Nice to see a shift in MS approach. Even pirated copies of Windows7 can be upgraded for 40$ (iv tested myself) and you get a very own brand new Windows 8 key. Its a fair price for common home Windows users, finally a realistic price for an upgrade.

Most people will buy Windows for the first time with this new realistic philosophy, its fantastic to see this new Microsoft rising again for the battle.

I upgraded my free copy of Windows 8 RP to Windows 8 Pro for $15; it was awesome. I didn't even have to overwrite my Windows 7 partition!

Dot Matrix said,
Windows 8 isn't going to sell. In fact I think it's going to be a resounding failure. There's no way it…oh...

Welcome Nostardamus

Dot Matrix said,
Windows 8 isn't going to sell. In fact I think it's going to be a resounding failure. There's no way it…oh...

Fun to see all the FUD being wrong.

Dot Matrix said,
Windows 8 isn't going to sell. In fact I think it's going to be a resounding failure. There's no way it…oh...

This also seems to be for JUST upgrade copies. It don't even count all the PC, laptop and tablet sales. Impressive.

Dot Matrix said,
Windows 8 isn't going to sell. In fact I think it's going to be a resounding failure. There's no way it…oh...

Of course it sold that many, look at the price. A turd price for a turd product! If Windows 7 was available at that price it would be over a billion right now.

JHBrown said,

Of course it sold that many, look at the price. A turd price for a turd product! If Windows 7 was available at that price it would be over a billion right now.

Stupid comment is stupid. You are aware its priced that low because of the Store?

JHBrown said,

Of course it sold that many, look at the price. A turd price for a turd product! If Windows 7 was available at that price it would be over a billion right now.

You do remember that you could get a full retail boxed edition of 7 HP for £45 on release don`t you? It`s sat on my shelf

PmRd said,

Stupid comment is stupid. You are aware its priced that low because of the Store?

It's also priced that low for two other realities:

1. Hardware requirements are no higher than those for Windows 7 (except at the VERY low end).
2. The economy globally is in the crapper. (That is, in fact, the biggest reason for the El Cheapo upgrades.)

There's one rather telling reality about Windows 8 - other than the Start menu, what's missing (compared to Windows 7)? Nothing - absolutely nothing.

I would wager that the Start menu means less to the majority of users than the detractors figured. (By the by, I saw a Neowin poll of Windows 7 users on Start menu usage - what were the final results? I steered clear because I had already moved on to Windows 8.)

JHBrown said,

Of course it sold that many, look at the price. A turd price for a turd product! If Windows 7 was available at that price it would be over a billion right now.

Windows 7 ceiling is not the price, it is hardware limitations. Which Windows 8 has an advantage, since it works better with non-DX9 GPUs and lower amounts of RAM than Windows 7.

Users have until January to get in on the low price, so in temporal terms, the initial adoption rate is rather important, because a lot of people could have and possibly are waiting a few weeks or a month or so to see how it goes before they buy the Upgrade.

PmRd said,

Stupid comment is stupid. You are aware its priced that low because of the Store?

Um, actually it isn't the store. It has more to do with digital distribution and reduced licensing fees that Microsoft has to pay for MPEG2, etc.

It is also just and introductory price; however, one that lasts for several months, which is why the initial upgrade sales are important and impressive, as users could have waited until January and they are still adopting it faster than previous versions.

PmRd said,

Stupid comment is stupid. You are aware its priced that low because of the Store?


Do you think people care about the Store? I tried to use it, it timed out with an error when connecting.

Tal Greywolf said,

Do you think people care about the Store? I tried to use it, it timed out with an error when connecting.

Of course people will care about the store what kind of stupid comment is this. Maybe you won't but I know a lot of people who will be using it

Dot Matrix said,
Windows 8 isn't going to sell. In fact I think it's going to be a resounding failure. There's no way it…oh...

Why not I bought it. Its just $35 and I just paid $5 for Start8 software which brings back start menu and everything, booting directly to desktop. I have all of them together. Infact I am surprised with the performance comparing to Win7. Faster boot (Used to be 15 secs now its around 5 to 6 secs), Faster file copying. Built-in Antivirus. nice new applications and I can use all new development tools. Why you are against it? give me a reason