Microsoft is working on two 3D Touch phones

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Earlier this month, details emerged on Microsoft's plans for 3D gesture and touch support for Windows Phone. We have been sent some info on the upcoming Microsoft McLaren handset, and we now know that there is more than one phone with 3D Touch support in the works.

McLaren will be a 5.2-inch device, with a 1080p display, 20MP camera and come in a 64GB storage flavor (other storage options may be available). Look for this device to arrive this fall; we are hearing that October is the targeted release month. Other rumors have noted that the device may have a quad-HD display, 2560x1440 and while we would love to see that high of resolution on a display of this size, our sources indicate that 1080P is the spec for release.

However, in addition to McLaren, there is a larger device - we understand it will be a 6-inch handset that will support 3D Touch as well, replacing the Lumia 1520, possibly launching later this year too; this may be the same device that leaked earlier today that will have an upgraded SoC.

If you are curious about what 3D Touch is, you can check out the video below. While it will be up to Microsoft to prove that this feature is something more than a novelty, it does show that the company is thinking outside the box when it comes to building phones.

Microsoft is looking to position 3D Touch as a premium differentiator among high-end Windows Phone devices. As it stands right now, the differences between the entry-level Lumias and those at the top end of the range are not well defined. Yes, there are better cameras and perhaps some more premium materials, but overall, the feature sets and user experience are quite close - that's not a bad thing but it does make high-end Lumias less attractive.

So, to help justify the higher expense, expect to see Microsoft use 3D Touch as a defining feature for the Lumias at the top end of the market. But, as always with this type of information, it can change before launch in the same way that Microsoft pulled the Surface mini days before it was announced

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Stokkolm said,
Not only the horsepower to process the images, but the speed of focus leaves much to be desired. My wife has a 1020 and can't wait to get back to an iPhone because, to her at least, being able to take the picture she wants to take at the time she wants to take it is more important than the higher quality of the photo that the 1020 provides.
True, the concept of a two stage camera button is lost on most people I guess. I have no problems with this :/ In fact, it allows you to pre-focus for a picture if you want.

More devices for a niche market?

Where is the Windows Phone to get the market share higher? The one-fits-all device? There is not one single Lumia device yet that comes with every feature that Nokia and Microsoft offer. The Lumia 930 is close but doesn't support the useful Glance screen.

It is higher. Outside the US.

Although I agree, there hasn't been a Windows Phone "hero" device. The Lumia 520 did wonders for the global marketshare, but it's still a low budget device.

But besides Micronokia, it's not like manufacturers are working on a WP. Look at HTC, "we're all in on Windows Phone". What a joke, glad to see them burning down with what they actually went all in, the HTC One and Android.

Even Samsung did a better job with the ATIV S. Apps are decent too!

Edited by Seketh, Jul 7 2014, 9:34pm :

tiadimundo said,
More devices for a niche market?

Where is the Windows Phone to get the market share higher? The one-fits-all device? There is not one single Lumia device yet that comes with every feature that Nokia and Microsoft offer. The Lumia 930 is close but doesn't support the useful Glance screen.

That won't be happening. 4 years and 3%. What phone can Microsoft release now to get marketshare higher? I can't imagine a 3D gimmick will do anything.

Really, really don't get the market for this. Maybe for tablets, but phones don't have the most demanding interactions... I'd rather have the longer battery than wasting the power on 3d gestures.

Finally, someone that gets it. Why invest time an effort for something something that is a niche feature that most consumers won't understand or use anyway.

They need to focus on features and functionality that will increase market share.

enhance the notification center
enhance the people hub
increase battery life
perhaps change the sign in screen to accept alpha numeric

I have no problem with the bump on the back of the 1020 at all. I would like to see them offer 20 MP for folks, but I also want them to continue to push that MP limit. What will be the true successor to the 1020 is what I want to know.

I envision it like when using a pen with a tablet. You hover over it and you get a cursor so you have much more fine grain control over exactly where you are interacting on the screen. If it worked like that I would be really happy.

Stokkolm said,
I envision it like when using a pen with a tablet. You hover over it and you get a cursor so you have much more fine grain control over exactly where you are interacting on the screen. If it worked like that I would be really happy.

except you'll still have hard time seeing the cursor behind the finger

That depends on how far away it will recognize your finger. It doesn't have to be a cursor either, a simple 10x10px dot would work for me.

trojan_market said,
too bad they don't have a 3D UI to go with it. Metro is all flat (2D)

I'm really curious to see where they're taking the UI, WP 9 will be very interesting.

Stokkolm said,
That depends on how far away it will recognize your finger. It doesn't have to be a cursor either, a simple 10x10px dot would work for me.

My educated guess, and hope, is that this 3D technology will be released in conjunction with the " active tiles" one. That would be a great way to interact with the device.

trojan_market said,
too bad they don't have a 3D UI to go with it. Metro is all flat (2D)

Simple imagine the tiles floating above the background ;)

VinzZ said,

Simple imagine the tiles floating above the background ;)

still doesn't make sense, the only thing make sense is that either the tiles itself turn into cubes or the content inside becomes 3D

So in October I can finally sign a new contract with AT&T and get a new phone to replace my HTC Titan II running poor old WP7.8 lol.

This is not going to end well for MS.
I really think we're taking the phone in the wrong direction.

Adoption of Tablet-isms and dropping phone implementations (hubs).
Removal of required hardware buttons ( Camera, Back, Start, Search )
TPM
now an added sensor ??????

So much for a consistent experience across OEMs and price points.

Windows Phone is trying too hard and not really succeeding on any front.

You mean not succeeding in the US.

Because global marketshare clearly shows that Windows Phone is, in fact, succeeding.

It's always wonderful to compare internet comments with facts.

Seketh said,
You mean not succeeding in the US.

Because global marketshare clearly shows that Windows Phone is, in fact, succeeding.

It's always wonderful to compare internet comments with facts.


Yes and not.... Even globally the picture is not so spectacular. Of course the lack of new devices does not help....

Cosmocronos said,
Of course the lack of new devices does not help....

Agree.
I broke my Lumia 1020 and have no desire to replace it until McLaren materializes.

Seketh said,
You mean not succeeding in the US.

Because global marketshare clearly shows that Windows Phone is, in fact, succeeding.

It's always wonderful to compare internet comments with facts.

That fact is that where Windows Phone is 'succeeding' it's because of sales of the very low end cheap devices. These people probably have very little money and very little interest in what phone they actually have. I suspect the decision was purely practical and based on cost. These customers don't use the MS ecosystem and don't spend any money on apps and services. These people are not good customers.

It is a fact that flagship high end Windows Phones sell terribly all over the world.

3D Touch? Really? That sounds like a huge gimmick. 3D died a couple of years ago.

Edited by derekaw, Jul 8 2014, 9:29pm :

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